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mellincf
10-23-2017, 02:36 PM
The House Oversight and Government Reform Committee has asked the White House to provide more information about whether staffers are adhering to the Presidential Records Act. (The White House refused.)
This comes after revelations that top White House aides — including first daughter Ivanka Trump and her husband Jared Kushner — have been using personal email to conduct official business. SHADES OF HILLARY, RIGHT?
The Presidential Records Act might have something to say about this practice. Its purpose, born out of the wreckage of Watergate, was to protect us not only from official misconduct, but from ourselves. It was meant to warn presidents that they may not brush their foibles, or crimes, under the Oval Office rug. It was to preserve, indefinitely, that which we all might wish to forget.
Rockyrd
10-23-2017, 02:44 PM
The House Oversight and Government Reform Committee has asked the White House to provide more information about whether staffers are adhering to the Presidential Records Act. (The White House refused.)
This comes after revelations that top White House aides — including first daughter Ivanka Trump and her husband Jared Kushner — have been using personal email to conduct official business. SHADES OF HILLARY, RIGHT?
The Presidential Records Act might have something to say about this practice. Its purpose, born out of the wreckage of Watergate, was to protect us not only from official misconduct, but from ourselves. It was meant to warn presidents that they may not brush their foibles, or crimes, under the Oval Office rug. It was to preserve, indefinitely, that which we all might wish to forget.
House Oversight and Government Reform Committee Chairman Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.) threatened agency leaders with subpoenas if the committee does not receive answers on private email use for conducting official business. The committee’s original request set a deadline for Oct. 9. Gowdy said 16 agencies did not provide sufficient information. (House Oversight and Government Reform Committee)
Now I know to all you alt right zealots, none of this is true...it is part of Trump derangement Syndrome or whatever name you are throwing around, but it is all fact.....all credited information.
The media is not making all of this up, but you folks just flat out could care less. It is only our country, right...as long as we protet HIM
House Oversight Committee may subpoena agencies not providing info on private email use - FederalNewsRadio.com (https://federalnewsradio.com/federal-newscast/2017/10/house-oversight-committee-may-subpoena-agencies-not-providing-info-on-private-email-use/)
Rockyrd
10-23-2017, 02:56 PM
You zealots also may want to read how much money this guy is making SINCE TAKING OFFICE.
The damn media just keeps making all of this stuff with no valid reasons.
"On the campaign trail, Donald Trump’s vows to “drain the swamp” and attacks on Hillary Clinton’s use of personal e-mail gave hope to those who believed he would embrace openness and outside scrutiny.
After becoming president, however, Trump has slammed shut access to White House visitor logs, scrubbed data from federal websites, zealously pursued government leakers and even toyed with ending regular news briefings."
And to those who take me to task for cut and paste,,,,,IT IS BECAUSE YOU SIMPLY REFUSE TO READ, NO WONDER YOU ARE MISINFORMED.
But, again, I am inflicted with a syndrome and besides the media just makes this stuff up.....says Alex Jones about the mean youtube people stopping hate films.
So, dont read...just mock me.....your guy is before country and why would we want facts.....just blame the media.
Trump White House confounds, confuses transparency advocates - StarTribune.com (http://www.startribune.com/trump-white-house-confounds-confuses-transparency-advocates/452142423/)
rubicon
10-23-2017, 02:57 PM
The House Oversight and Government Reform Committee has asked the White House to provide more information about whether staffers are adhering to the Presidential Records Act. (The White House refused.)
This comes after revelations that top White House aides — including first daughter Ivanka Trump and her husband Jared Kushner — have been using personal email to conduct official business. SHADES OF HILLARY, RIGHT?
The Presidential Records Act might have something to say about this practice. Its purpose, born out of the wreckage of Watergate, was to protect us not only from official misconduct, but from ourselves. It was meant to warn presidents that they may not brush their foibles, or crimes, under the Oval Office rug. It was to preserve, indefinitely, that which we all might wish to forget.
The heading of your topic is in the form of a question.
To that I would respond that there is no question the Clintons resisted production of documents, destroyed evidence.
To that I respond that there is no question the Obama Administration refused to cooperate with the scandals of Fast & Furious, Benghazi, IRS , et al
To that I would respond that the Obama Administration refused to respond to the clandestine and illegal meeting between Bill Clinton and Loretta Lynch on an airport tarmac.
To that I respond everyone talked up the Trump dossier but no one seems to want to explain who paid for it nor to produce it.
I'm getting tired too many more progressive did not respond events like Debbie Schultz and hr Pakistani pals
Personal Best Regards:
Rockyrd
10-23-2017, 03:03 PM
The heading of your topic is in the form of a question.
To that I would respond that there is no question the Clintons resisted production of documents, destroyed evidence.
To that I respond that there is no question the Obama Administration refused to cooperate with the scandals of Fast & Furious, Benghazi, IRS , et al
To that I would respond that the Obama Administration refused to respond to the clandestine and illegal meeting between Bill Clinton and Loretta Lynch on an airport tarmac.
To that I respond everyone talked up the Trump dossier but no one seems to want to explain who paid for it nor to produce it.
I'm getting tired too many more progressive did not respond events like Debbie Schultz and hr Pakistani pals
Personal Best Regards:
We WILL find out who paid for that dossier and that seems to be more important to you than the CONTENTS of that dossier
rubicon
10-23-2017, 03:57 PM
We WILL find out who paid for that dossier and that seems to be more important to you than the CONTENTS of that dossier
My friend take five minutes to consider what you just said.:D
Personal Best Regards:
Rockyrd
10-23-2017, 04:31 PM
My friend take five minutes to consider what you just said.:D
Personal Best Regards:
I did, and I sincerely believe that you and you buddy Alex Jones are MORE interested in who, rather than what's in it.
Does not make who paid for it less important, but THAT is the only thing you care about.
I, and many others, care about this country before anything and are willing to follow policy, but fear the incredible, deceitful web he is weaving.
I read your explanation of Trump and the derangement syndrome, BUT YOU NEVER MENTION HUS DECEIT.
For me, he can say all he wants, as much as he wants, anywhere he wants..I could care less, so on that we agree.
Problem for me is HE DOESNT TELL THE TRUTH, AND HE MAKES FELONIOUS UNTRUE ALLEGATIONS.
NOW if you support the lack of truth, I really would believe it because I sincerely believe you have no respect for truth.
You can now twist all that, make it about Clinton, make it about OBama, whatever you want....BUT HE LIES. You don't seem to understand, he can talk all he wants...JUST TELL THE TRUTH AND STOP MAKING OERSONAL ACCUSATIONS.
mellincf
10-24-2017, 07:43 AM
You zealots also may want to read how much money this guy is making SINCE TAKING OFFICE.
The damn media just keeps making all of this stuff with no valid reasons.
"On the campaign trail, Donald Trump’s vows to “drain the swamp” and attacks on Hillary Clinton’s use of personal e-mail gave hope to those who believed he would embrace openness and outside scrutiny.
After becoming president, however, Trump has slammed shut access to White House visitor logs, scrubbed data from federal websites, zealously pursued government leakers and even toyed with ending regular news briefings."
And to those who take me to task for cut and paste,,,,,IT IS BECAUSE YOU SIMPLY REFUSE TO READ, NO WONDER YOU ARE MISINFORMED.
But, again, I am inflicted with a syndrome and besides the media just makes this stuff up.....says Alex Jones about the mean youtube people stopping hate films.
So, dont read...just mock me.....your guy is before country and why would we want facts.....just blame the media.
Trump White House confounds, confuses transparency advocates - StarTribune.com (http://www.startribune.com/trump-white-house-confounds-confuses-transparency-advocates/452142423/)
I recently had a conversation with a friend who only gets her news from Fox. She said the other stations "bored" her and she resents "constant attack on Trump".
This was in a way a revelation to me, since I like this person and things in our friendship will NOT change. But it occurs to me that she likes constant drama - which Fox serves up daily in its role as an "entertainment" station, and she refuses to believe anything bad about Trump since he is a "great businessman" who will "bring corporations back to America".
Taltarzac725
10-24-2017, 09:21 AM
I recently had a conversation with a friend who only gets her news from Fox. She said the other stations "bored" her and she resents "constant attack on Trump".
This was in a way a revelation to me, since I like this person and things in our friendship will NOT change. But it occurs to me that she likes constant drama - which Fox serves up daily in its role as an "entertainment" station, and she refuses to believe anything bad about Trump since he is a "great businessman" who will "bring corporations back to America".
I have heard that tune too. Seems some of these people are deaf.
Rockyrd
10-24-2017, 09:28 AM
I recently had a conversation with a friend who only gets her news from Fox. She said the other stations "bored" her and she resents "constant attack on Trump".
This was in a way a revelation to me, since I like this person and things in our friendship will NOT change. But it occurs to me that she likes constant drama - which Fox serves up daily in its role as an "entertainment" station, and she refuses to believe anything bad about Trump since he is a "great businessman" who will "bring corporations back to America".
Great point.
When you ask a pointed question on here, you get the same old "soap opera" stuff.
I criticize Trump, but will give him this...he knows how to control the conversation, turn his lies into attacks ferybwell.
I suspect that most, esp on this forum, who don't even want to hear the truth are big fans of reality shows.
Notice on the so called "dossier" these people do not care what it might contain...they just want to insure Trump is protected, and attack whomever might have been involved in paying for it.
Imagine..they do not give a rats behind about content...just get the enemy.
A number of historical eras that were similar.
Don Baldwin
10-24-2017, 09:57 AM
Great point.
When you ask a pointed question on here, you get the same old "soap opera" stuff.
I criticize Trump, but will give him this...he knows how to control the conversation, turn his lies into attacks ferybwell.
I suspect that most, esp on this forum, who don't even want to hear the truth are big fans of reality shows.
Notice on the so called "dossier" these people do not care what it might contain...they just want to insure Trump is protected, and attack whomever might have been involved in paying for it.
Imagine..they do not give a rats behind about content...just get the enemy.
A number of historical eras that were similar.
You're caught up in emotion rocky...calm down...relax...where's your "safe space"? Do you want a blanket?
This is all theater...drama...to keep YOU hating THEM and them hating you.
So you don't band together and go after the REAL enemy...the powerful and wealthy who are robbing the treasury...$20 trillion so far...and climbing by over a $ trillion each year.
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