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mellincf
10-26-2017, 09:01 AM
There's a sizable swath of the population that only watches Fox News, listens to talk radio, and reads sites like Breitbart. It's unlikely they will even encounter the O'Reilly news, but if they do, you can bet it's likely to be framed in a way favorable to the disgraced Fox star. "The liberal New York Times is out to get O'Reilly and conservative voices!" It's an alternate reality far too many are living in...

His secret settlement with longtime Fox News colleague Lis Wiehl was the story of the weekend. He agreed to pay $32 million after she threatened to sue him for alleged sexual misconduct. The settlement stayed secret until Saturday, when the NYT's Emily Steel and Michael Schmidt published it.

But the real story is, this happened in January and Fox News knew about it, but still renewed his contract in February. Fox makes a big deal about Weinstein...

BUT WILL THEY BE EQUALLY OUTRAGED ABOUT THIS?

Taltarzac725
10-26-2017, 09:11 AM
There's a sizable swath of the population that only watches Fox News, listens to talk radio, and reads sites like Breitbart. It's unlikely they will even encounter the O'Reilly news, but if they do, you can bet it's likely to be framed in a way favorable to the disgraced Fox star. "The liberal New York Times is out to get O'Reilly and conservative voices!" It's an alternate reality far too many are living in...

His secret settlement with longtime Fox News colleague Lis Wiehl was the story of the weekend. He agreed to pay $32 million after she threatened to sue him for alleged sexual misconduct. The settlement stayed secret until Saturday, when the NYT's Emily Steel and Michael Schmidt published it.

But the real story is, this happened in January and Fox News knew about it, but still renewed his contract in February. Fox makes a big deal about Weinstein...

BUT WILL THEY BE EQUALLY OUTRAGED ABOUT THIS?

Kind of doubt it. And what about the sexual harassment and assault allegations against Donald John Trump?

Chi-Town
10-26-2017, 09:33 AM
Ten years ago O'Reilly settled a reported ten million dollar lawsuit which was based in part on strange uses for falafel and loofahs. Can't imagine what took place for $32 million.

Bill O'Reilly Falafel Lawsuit Turns Ten | The Smoking Gun (http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/oreilly/bill-oreilly-falafel-lawsuit-turns-ten-897562)

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rubicon
10-26-2017, 09:42 AM
I don't much care who reported what or why but rather on the events themselves.

As to O"Reilly my impression has always been that he appeared condescending to the women he invited on his show and if that was the manner in which he treated them publicly then what was the guy like in private.

O"Reilly was top dog at Fox News, commanded a higher salary and otherwise dominated. It is not uncommon to understand, that familiarity breeds contempt. Nor is it uncommon for envy to bring competitors together for the express purpose of bringing the top dog down.

It is also not uncommon for a woman to take different responses from the same approach by different men .

It is indeed very easy for a woman to feign indignation fear revulsion, etc with one man and yet with another simply say "knock it off buster"

and no I am not making excuses for men, nor claiming sexual harassment doesn't exist . what I am saying is that each situation ought to be carefully reviewed to determine is validity.

The $32 million dollar settlement was with a prominent female attorney. Female attorneys can get down and dirty with the boys. There was a relationship between these two. It soured. I believe O'Reilly's arrogance got him in trouble and scorpions do what scorpions do. The amount of settlement represents the value Fox believed was needed vis a vis the revenue they would lose if this situation continued to be a distraction.

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rubicon
10-26-2017, 09:52 AM
The Weinstein situation is no surprise and the casting couch a ubiquitous fixture in the movie-making business.
Those celebrities and political figures taking umbrage are hypocrites. Those claiming "me too" are doing what that breed does taking advantage of publicity and they don't care if its good or bad. That entire industry plainly speaking is a cesspool fully loaded with narcissist and opportunist that have the morals of an alley cat.

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graciegirl
10-26-2017, 09:54 AM
They are the aggressor, and that can mean anything from asking a woman out for a coke to well we all know what is socially unacceptable and criminal.

When I say aggressor, I mean that usually they are the ones that ask a woman for a "date", start the process of choose one; sex, romance, a dalliance, a life long partnership, a one night stand.

Women are just as interested in sex, but in a different way and viva la difference. Women flirt, they present themselves as either available or not available and if the male in the situation misreads the cues, she can still say "Knock it off buster" in any number of ways, but making it clear that she is not interested in him sexually.

She can get fired, moved, and passed over but if she is good enough at her job she can usually climb the ladder without using the casting couch.

I think that women are generally very capable of side stepping and letting someone down easy but there are guys like Harvey Weinstein who very much held the reigns for a lot of chances at success in Hollywood.

There are extreme cases, and there are lecherous, unscrupulous men and there are plotting unscrupulous women.

Probably six one way and half dozen the other.

I like men generally. I think a lot of times they get a bum wrap.

But not the ones who keep using the term "femo-fascist" on this forum and the word "cunt". I would like to smack them good.

Villagesperson
10-26-2017, 10:02 AM
This thread sure changed quickly from Fox News

graciegirl
10-26-2017, 10:08 AM
This thread sure changed quickly from Fox News

I happen to like Fox News. The rest of my family sat in one of the studios with big windows along the Avenue of the Americas and watched the Thanksgiving day parade last year.

graciegirl
10-26-2017, 10:09 AM
They are the aggressor, and that can mean anything from asking a woman out for a coke to well we all know what is socially unacceptable and criminal.

When I say aggressor, I mean that usually they are the ones that ask a woman for a "date", start the process of choose one; sex, romance, a dalliance, a life long partnership, a one night stand.

Women are just as interested in sex, but in a different way and viva la difference. Women flirt, they present themselves as either available or not available and if the male in the situation misreads the cues, she can still say "Knock it off buster" in any number of ways, but making it clear that she is not interested in him sexually.

She can get fired, moved, and passed over but if she is good enough at her job she can usually climb the ladder without using the casting couch.

I think that women are generally very capable of side stepping and letting someone down easy but there are guys like Harvey Weinstein who very much held the reigns for a lot of chances at success in Hollywood.

There are extreme cases, and there are lecherous, unscrupulous men and there are plotting unscrupulous women.

Probably six one way and half dozen the other.

I like men generally. I think a lot of times they get a bum rap.

But not the ones who keep using the term "femo-fascist" on this forum and the word "cunt". I would like to smack them good.

bump

I am not a fan of Bill O'Reilly. OR Gretchen Carlson.

Villagesperson
10-26-2017, 11:11 AM
I happen to like Fox News. The rest of my family sat in one of the studios with big windows along the Avenue of the Americas and watched the Thanksgiving day parade last year.

Which has what to do with their coverup, and hypocrisy ?

graciegirl
10-26-2017, 11:17 AM
Which has what to do with their coverup, and hypocrisy ?

My family's coverup and hypocrisy?

graciegirl
10-26-2017, 12:02 PM
I think it's damn dumb for Fox News Channel to rehire Bill O'Reilly.

BUT I still like Fox News.

rubicon
10-26-2017, 12:18 PM
They are the aggressor, and that can mean anything from asking a woman out for a coke to well we all know what is socially unacceptable and criminal.

When I say aggressor, I mean that usually they are the ones that ask a woman for a "date", start the process of choose one; sex, romance, a dalliance, a life long partnership, a one night stand.

Women are just as interested in sex, but in a different way and viva la difference. Women flirt, they present themselves as either available or not available and if the male in the situation misreads the cues, she can still say "Knock it off buster" in any number of ways, but making it clear that she is not interested in him sexually.

She can get fired, moved, and passed over but if she is good enough at her job she can usually climb the ladder without using the casting couch.

I think that women are generally very capable of side stepping and letting someone down easy but there are guys like Harvey Weinstein who very much held the reigns for a lot of chances at success in Hollywood.

There are extreme cases, and there are lecherous, unscrupulous men and there are plotting unscrupulous women.

Probably six one way and half dozen the other.

I like men generally. I think a lot of times they get a bum wrap.

But not the ones who keep using the term "femo-fascist" on this forum and the word "cunt". I would like to smack them good.

I agree with everything you said but have never "ever" used that derogatory female word. It along with the word that rhymes with witch are very disrespectful and in my view degrading.

I love women but have only been in love with one woman my entire life. and I have said "I love women"in her presence because she knows my meaning and intent.

Personal Best Regards:

Wiotte
10-26-2017, 12:19 PM
Which has what to do with their coverup, and hypocrisy ?



Nothing, she likes to brag. As if anyone cares. That’s what high school girls do.


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Chi-Town
10-26-2017, 12:31 PM
I don't much care who reported what or why but rather on the events themselves.

As to O"Reilly my impression has always been that he appeared condescending to the women he invited on his show and if that was the manner in which he treated them publicly then what was the guy like in private.

O"Reilly was top dog at Fox News, commanded a higher salary and otherwise dominated. It is not uncommon to understand, that familiarity breeds contempt. Nor is it uncommon for envy to bring competitors together for the express purpose of bringing the top dog down.

It is also not uncommon for a woman to take different responses from the same approach by different men .

It is indeed very easy for a woman to feign indignation fear revulsion, etc with one man and yet with another simply say "knock it off buster"

and no I am not making excuses for men, nor claiming sexual harassment doesn't exist . what I am saying is that each situation ought to be carefully reviewed to determine is validity.

The $32 million dollar settlement was with a prominent female attorney. Female attorneys can get down and dirty with the boys. There was a relationship between these two. It soured. I believe O'Reilly's arrogance got him in trouble and scorpions do what scorpions do. The amount of settlement represents the value Fox believed was needed vis a vis the revenue they would lose if this situation continued to be a distraction.

Personal Best Regards:

Sorry PBR, but you generalized so much in the body of your post that you forgot how to tie in your opening sentence.

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graciegirl
10-26-2017, 12:41 PM
Sorry PBR, but you generalized so much in the body of your post that you forgot how to tie in your opening sentence.

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yeah well, we got it.

Chi. How'd you get old enough to live in The Villages without getting more conservative in your views????

Chi-Town
10-26-2017, 01:14 PM
yeah well, we got it.

Chi. How'd you get old enough to live in The Villages without getting more conservative in your views????I've stated before that I was a Rockefeller Republican at one time. On this forum that would make me a flaming liberal. Actually I have moved from right of center to left of center as I've gotten older. But not too much in my thinking.

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rubicon
10-26-2017, 01:19 PM
Sorry PBR, but you generalized so much in the body of your post that you forgot how to tie in your opening sentence.

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You may be right? My intent and only point was to ignore the bigoted criticism about fake news ,etc and focus on O'Reilly. Perhaps I did not meet some posters expectation?

As to generalizations what else can one do when one can only speculate about this case. I believe I made my case that given O'Reilly's behavior and arrogance it was predictable that someone was going to take him down.

However I appreciate your criticism and will take it into consideration with future postings.

Personal Best Regards:

Don Baldwin
10-26-2017, 01:58 PM
The Weinstein situation is no surprise and the casting couch a ubiquitous fixture in the movie-making business.
Those celebrities and political figures taking umbrage are hypocrites. Those claiming "me too" are doing what that breed does taking advantage of publicity and they don't care if its good or bad. That entire industry plainly speaking is a cesspool fully loaded with narcissist and opportunist that have the morals of an alley cat.

Personal Best Regards:

The "casting couch has been around forever...what do these women expect when the product they are selling is sexuality? Their sexuality?

These women are looking for a payday...to hit the lottery...

I agree with everything you said but have never "ever" used that derogatory female word. It along with the word that rhymes with witch are very disrespectful and in my view degrading.

I love women but have only been in love with one woman my entire life. and I have said "I love women"in her presence because she knows my meaning and intent.

Personal Best Regards:

Because you're a f@cking beta dude...

You may be right? My intent and only point was to ignore the bigoted criticism about fake news ,etc and focus on O'Reilly. Perhaps I did not meet some posters expectation?

As to generalizations what else can one do when one can only speculate about this case. I believe I made my case that given O'Reilly's behavior and arrogance it was predictable that someone was going to take him down.

However I appreciate your criticism and will take it into consideration with future postings.

Personal Best Regards:

Why do you give a sh!t what some other idiot thinks of your writing? F@ck them. You're not here to make them happy. They can read it, they can figure it out.

rubicon
10-26-2017, 03:44 PM
The "casting couch has been around forever...what do these women expect when the product they are selling is sexuality? Their sexuality?

These women are looking for a payday...to hit the lottery...



Because you're a f@cking beta dude...



Why do you give a sh!t what some other idiot thinks of your writing? F@ck them. You're not here to make them happy. They can read it, they can figure it out.

You and I agree in that I have a low opinion of many of the people associated with movie making


In order to qualify as an alpha male you have to lower yourself to gutter language. Who would have thunk it. Hmm

Why do I care what other people think? Well I don't actually care. However when someone makes a comment is polite about it my usual reaction will be to respond to ensure my communication is not misunderstood. I'm not adverse to constructive criticism ( an oxymoron) etc.

Personal Best Regards:

rubicon
10-26-2017, 03:51 PM
I found it interesting that the OP used hyperbole when starting this thread. Its not just the "O'Reilly Story" , its the "Shocking O'Reilly Story

with all the scandal and corruption in Washington this one story merits "shocking"?

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Chi-Town
10-26-2017, 04:06 PM
You may be right? My intent and only point was to ignore the bigoted criticism about fake news ,etc and focus on O'Reilly. Perhaps I did not meet some posters expectation?

As to generalizations what else can one do when one can only speculate about this case. I believe I made my case that given O'Reilly's behavior and arrogance it was predictable that someone was going to take him down.

However I appreciate your criticism and will take it into consideration with future postings.

Personal Best Regards:

Thanks for the comeback. My main problem with O'Reilly is his long history of the same accusations. Can't all be circumstantial. Not with a history of payouts.

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Don Baldwin
10-26-2017, 06:34 PM
You and I agree in that I have a low opinion of many of the people associated with movie making


In order to qualify as an alpha male you have to lower yourself to gutter language. Who would have thunk it. Hmm

Why do I care what other people think? Well I don't actually care. However when someone makes a comment is polite about it my usual reaction will be to respond to ensure my communication is not misunderstood. I'm not adverse to constructive criticism ( an oxymoron) etc.

Personal Best Regards:

You don't have the book...it's in there...lots of cursing...women don't like it...that's WHY we do it.

rubicon
10-27-2017, 03:55 AM
Thanks for the comeback. My main problem with O'Reilly is his long history of the same accusations. Can't all be circumstantial. Not with a history of payouts.

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I agree that is why I wrote if he treated women the way he did after asking them to come on is show then what was he doing off screen. I could not watch the guy because he would ask a gust a question interrupt the guest and answer his own question.

Its like the story the tell of he narcissistic talk show host.

The host says, "OK enough about me" now let's get to my guest."

the host, My first question to you guest is "what do you think of me"?:D

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Bog99
10-27-2017, 05:56 AM
I found it interesting that the OP used hyperbole when starting this thread. Its not just the "O'Reilly Story" , its the "Shocking O'Reilly Story

with all the scandal and corruption in Washington this one story merits "shocking"?

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LOL.


Yup -- that's Feelings Femo-Fascism for you.

As someone posted elsewhere -- it's People Magazine politics. The whole country is one big high school cafeteria.



https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-political-talk-88/only-thing-femo-fascists-understand-their-own-feelings-247621/



For sorting out the stupid chaos inflicted by these idiots, try this:



https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-political-talk-88/structure-politics-248309/



To start cleaning up the mess caused by these idiots, try this:



https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-political-talk-88/how-rid-senate-femo-fascist-idiots-247586/



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Topspinmo
10-27-2017, 06:42 AM
There's a sizable swath of the population that only watches Fox News, listens to talk radio, and reads sites like Breitbart. It's unlikely they will even encounter the O'Reilly news, but if they do, you can bet it's likely to be framed in a way favorable to the disgraced Fox star. "The liberal New York Times is out to get O'Reilly and conservative voices!" It's an alternate reality far too many are living in...

His secret settlement with longtime Fox News colleague Lis Wiehl was the story of the weekend. He agreed to pay $32 million after she threatened to sue him for alleged sexual misconduct. The settlement stayed secret until Saturday, when the NYT's Emily Steel and Michael Schmidt published it.

But the real story is, this happened in January and Fox News knew about it, but still renewed his contract in February. Fox makes a big deal about Weinstein...

BUT WILL THEY BE EQUALLY OUTRAGED ABOUT THIS?

sure BUT, Oreally not politician is he. Which this shyt goes on daily in the real world BUT, we we equally outraged by the amount of women Clinton paid off including the ligament son mother in Arcansaw so he was kept squeaky clean for politicial advancement in the Most Lying deceiving polticial party ever. AND are you equally outraged by the DOssier lying British retired agent the made up the Trump Dossier Brought and Paid for by the DNC, Hillary Clinton and possible the FBI Head Croney, which Involved CIA head CRapper. So WE see what else comes out of this and the republican that was in on the big lie also. Edited we for you was directing to individuals.

Lottoguy
10-27-2017, 09:28 AM
It's too bad people only watch their one station when it comes to politics. The right sticks with Fox and the left with CNN. In a perfect world they should watch one station one night and the other the next. Then decide where the truth is leading them.

graciegirl
10-27-2017, 09:49 AM
It's too bad people only watch their one station when it comes to politics. The right sticks with Fox and the left with CNN. In a perfect world they should watch one station one night and the other the next. Then decide where the truth is leading them.

Some do and some don't. At our house we don't just watch one. We watch all of them. But Rachel Maddow aggravates me to death. Her attitude, not her sexual orientation.

And Topspin? You don't usually have so many grammatical errors? What's up?

Topspin. Were you a professional Tennis player?

Don Baldwin
10-27-2017, 09:52 AM
It's too bad people only watch their one station when it comes to politics. The right sticks with Fox and the left with CNN. In a perfect world they should watch one station one night and the other the next. Then decide where the truth is leading them.

Some do and some don't. At our house we don't just watch one. We watch all of them. But Rachel Maddow aggravates me to death. Her attitude, not her sexual orientation.

And Topspin? You don't usually have so many grammatical errors? What's up?

Topspin. Were you a professional Tennis player?

Why? It's ALL propaganda...only different sides.

Topspinmo
10-27-2017, 06:13 PM
Some do and some don't. At our house we don't just watch one. We watch all of them. But Rachel Maddow aggravates me to death. Her attitude, not her sexual orientation.

And Topspin? You don't usually have so many grammatical errors? What's up?

Topspin. Were you a professional Tennis player?


I done that so it could be diverted to spelling/grammar problem rather that O SHYT Look who got caught lying and deception again.