Issues with Villages Realty Resale Department

[RMarkland]

i would like to hear from any resident that has had problems with The Villages Resales department and their lack of follow through. Particularly items what should have been added to an addendum but were not even though they stated to the contrary. Any comments regarding the accuracy of the agent. Am currently discussing these matters with the AG office and any additional facts would be helpful to all of us residents.

[graciegirl]

i would like to hear from any resident that has had problems with The Villages Resales department and their lack of follow through. Particularly items what should have been added to an addendum but were not even though they stated to the contrary. Any comments regarding the accuracy of the agent. Am currently discussing these matters with the AG office and any additional facts would be helpful to all of us residents.

No problem.

[dewilson58]

Never had any issues.

[kstew43]

remember.....TV sales agents are "Single Agents" they represent the developers brokerage" They are not in the deal for the "transaction" selling the home....they represent the developer and not the buyer or seller... so your best interests are not in consideration. you must sign a agency disclosure prior to signing any contract, given to you by the agent, and this must be explained to you. That is a florida state law anyone holding a license to sell real estate must do.

Loyalty, Obedience, and Full disclosure are not part of the Single agents duties.

For more information, research Single agents, vs Transaction brokers.

[bagboy]

i would like to hear from any resident that has had problems with The Villages Resales department and their lack of follow through. Particularly items what should have been added to an addendum but were not even though they stated to the contrary. Any comments regarding the accuracy of the agent. Am currently discussing these matters with the AG office and any additional facts would be helpful to all of us residents.

Any addendum to any contract for anything must be in writing and signed by both or all parties involved.

[graciegirl]

remember.....TV sales agents are "Single Agents" they represent the developers brokerage" They are not in the deal for the "transaction" selling the home....they represent the developer and not the buyer or seller... so your best interests are not in consideration. you must sign a agency disclosure prior to signing any contract, given to you by the agent, and this must be explained to you. That is a florida state law anyone holding a license to sell real estate must do.

Loyalty, Obedience, and Full disclosure are not part of the Single agents duties.

For more information, research Single agents, vs Transaction brokers.

Sounds like realtor speak. Realtors can only sell used houses in The Villages.

And should we then expect agents for the developer to be dishonest? When they must have lists of people waiting to sell for them? It has to be a fairly easy sell.

Why should The Villages Inc. tolerate anyone dishonest when they have such a good thing goin'????

If we were to try to sell this house we live in? We would do FSBO with McLin Burnsed.

[Mleeja]

i would like to hear from any resident that has had problems with The Villages Resales department and their lack of follow through. Particularly items what should have been added to an addendum but were not even though they stated to the contrary. Any comments regarding the accuracy of the agent. Am currently discussing these matters with the AG office and any additional facts would be helpful to all of us residents.

I am “bothered” by anyone making a post like this, especially when it is only their 3rd post in almost 6 years. I am sorry to see where the OP has a problem with The Villages Reality, but I am not going to give them unsubstantiated dirt to use in a complaint against them. There are three sides to every coin. I am sure the OP may have misunderstood some of the terms which has lead to their frustrations. I am not saying they are wrong, but asking for dirt on this forum is not the proper place or method.

[New Englander]

Sounds like realtor speak. Realtors can only sell used houses in The Villages.

And should we then expect agents for the developer to be dishonest? When they must have lists of people waiting to sell for them? It has to be a fairly easy sell.

Why should The Villages Inc. tolerate anyone dishonest when they have such a good thing goin'????

If we were to try to sell this house we live in? We would do FSBO with McLin Burnsed.

Are McLin Burnsed attorneys who do real estate closings?

[CWGUY]

Are McLin Burnsed attorneys who do real estate closings?

:D No.... 2 streets in The Villages.

[Mleeja]

:D No.... 2 streets in The Villages.

In Fenney I think....:posting:

[kstew43]

Sounds like realtor speak. Realtors can only sell used houses in The Villages.

And should we then expect agents for the developer to be dishonest? When they must have lists of people waiting to sell for them? It has to be a fairly easy sell.

Why should The Villages Inc. tolerate anyone dishonest when they have such a good thing goin'????

If we were to try to sell this house we live in? We would do FSBO with McLin Burnsed.

whether you like it or not....its reality....TV brokerage chose to be a Single Agency sales agents.....

probably, to control explaining about..bonds, smells, dumps and prisons...,who knows ....if you don't have to disclose this information, why would you?

and it is Florida State Law.. Transaction agents..MLS agents, must disclose anything they know about the property and the community surroundings. Single agents, do not have to disclose anything to sellers or buyers.

has nothing to to do with who can sell home in TV.

Process still works, but forces buyer and seller to do a lot of research on there own or accept the consequences.

[rubicon]

i would like to hear from any resident that has had problems with The Villages Resales department and their lack of follow through. Particularly items what should have been added to an addendum but were not even though they stated to the contrary. Any comments regarding the accuracy of the agent. Am currently discussing these matters with the AG office and any additional facts would be helpful to all of us residents.

OP: It is apparent given that this is only your 3rd post that you are unaware of Developer Groupies that inhibit this forum. So you may not get the information you are seeking

The Daily Sun won't touch it nor the POA or the VHA.

You may have to sue to get a production of documents from Villages Realtors/Sales Department. And, they will deny said production citing proprietary privilege. There have been many complaints over the years concerning this department

Good Luck

[kstew43]

never ever use TV closing agents, or sellers agent for your purchase...always hire a closing agent, lawyer to represent you... its not that expensive, you have to pay for the closing side of your deal anyway, so why not pay someone who represents you.....

different counties realtor boards have different rules as to who chooses (buyer/seller) the closing agents, but you can always choose someone else to represent your side of the transaction.

Just a suggestion..for future propects

[kstew43]

Call your counties Board of Realtors, they can help with obtaining any information you might need or direct you to state agencies. Good luck with your quest.

[graciegirl]

OP: It is apparent given that this is only your 3rd post that you are unaware of Developer Groupies that inhibit this forum. So you may not get the information you are seeking

The Daily Sun won't touch it nor the POA or the VHA.

You may have to sue to get a production of documents from Villages Realtors/Sales Department. And, they will deny said production citing proprietary privilege. There have been many complaints over the years concerning this department

Good Luck

Gee Rubicon. I am a developer grouper and I don't think I inhibit this forum.

I also am not a realtor, never have been and don't have any money to gain on this issue.

I like how the developer has developed and so do all the folks who have voted with their money to buy here making this the fastest growing area of it's kind in the world. Some realtors are "left out" of new sales and that makes them grumpy.

The developer doesn't have to stoop to any underhandedness to sell houses, IMHO.

[Toymeister]

OP: It is apparent given that this is only your 3rd post that you are unaware of Developer Groupies that inhibit this forum. So you may not get the information you are seeking

The Daily Sun won't touch it nor the POA or the VHA.

You may have to sue to get a production of documents from Villages Realtors/Sales Department. And, they will deny said production citing proprietary privilege. There have been many complaints over the years concerning this department

Good Luck I do not measure the value of a poster the number of posts. You certainly do note to have over 10,000 posts to be a contributor of valuable information. More details do help, though

[Fredman]

Gee Rubicon. I am a developer grouper and I don't think I inhibit this forum.

I also am not a realtor, never have been and don't have any money to gain on this issue.

I like how the developer has developed and so do all the folks who have voted with their money to buy here making this the fastest growing area of it's kind in the world. Some realtors are "left out" of resales and that makes them grumpy.

The developer doesn't have to stoop to any underhandedness to sell houses, IMHO.

You go Gracie:BigApplause:

[Packer Fan]

A few things, since they have not been answered-
McLin Burnsed is a legal group that does a lot of work for the villages (they are in the town squares). They do all the work on new houses. I am currently using them to buy a FSBO and I paid extra to have them involved. They do NOT do closings, that is Peninsula Land and Title. They are loosely affiliated, but I do not believe owned by the Villages. I agree about having your own lawyer. However, if you are getting a mortgage, the mortgage company will demand a lot more than you ever will. I have both with the FSBO I am doing, but the lawyer only cost $500.

Ed

[autumnspring]

Any addendum to any contract for anything must be in writing and signed by both or all parties involved.

For most of us, you have never bought anything more expensive than a home.

The agent usually works for the seller. So as you drive aground with this friendly, personable person REMIND YOURSELF EVERY FEW MINUTES that they work for the seller. Everything you say is being heard by a SPY. You say that home is surely worth xxxxxxx but we will offer xxxxx perhaps we can get it for less. They go back to the seller and say they are offering xxxxxx but surely they will go higher.

In real estate only written things are binding.

[autumnspring]

Are McLin Burnsed attorneys who do real estate closings?

They are attys representing the Villages. With what you pay for a home, IN MY OPINION, it is worth a few hundred to have an atty who works for YOU. Few people agree.

We were told they allow 15 minutes for a closing. The contract is ?????? as I recall 30 pages of legalize. They will send you a copy, IF YOU INSIST and you can ask YOUR ATTY about what things mean. Once you SIGN, I didn't know or I didn't understand SIMPLY DOES NOT MATTER-you signed it. In fact, as I recall, on several pages you will sign that you understood the previous page.

[manaboutown]

I do not understand what allegedly transpired in the OP's transaction and only have questions - no answers. Sorry in advance!

Was it a resale of a "used" house? If so, how would the developer be a party thereto? Would not the parties involved be the owner (seller) of the resale and the buyer?

I know nothing about how Villages agents may represent seller-owners of "used" houses. Are they usually employed as transaction agents? May they agree to be sellers' agents on their listings? Are they allowed to contract as buyers' agents on resales? If so do they ever do so?

p.s. It has been my experience that in general a real estate transaction is governed solely by what is in writing and signed by the parties thereto. Oral commitments are not enforceable.

p.p.s. OP: Are you alleging negligence or some form of intentional tort?

[manaboutown]

OP: It is apparent given that this is only your 3rd post that you are unaware of Developer Groupies that inhibit this forum. So you may not get the information you are seeking.

Good Luck

:coolsmiley:

I believe that "inhibit" is indeed an appropriate descriptor within the context of this statement. LOL!!!

[autumnspring]

Call your counties Board of Realtors, they can help with obtaining any information you might need or direct you to state agencies. Good luck with your quest.

In days of old when knights were bold and we lived in NY.
We were looking for a bigger house. The market stunk and I put in a written offer on a home we intended to buy. The seller was an atty.

My offer was written. I latter by accident discovered th house was sold for 40-50,000 below my offer and obviously below value. The same broker that had taken my written offer was involved in this other sale so she could not claim she was unaware.

Only explanation was UNREPORTED CASH.

I put in a formal complaint and got the following SHOCKING information. The Realtor board expected me to testify. If, found guilty the broker would be fined-not loose her license
and the fine would not go to me but to the realtor board.

Rights-what do they really mean? Other than in small claims court you will need an atty to enforce your rights.
The atty will be billing you 200-300 or more per hour.

[graciegirl]

:coolsmiley:

I believe that "inhibit" is indeed an appropriate descriptor within the context of this statement. LOL!!!



Mark me down as a huge fan of how this place is run.

[autumnspring]

:coolsmiley:

I believe that "inhibit" is indeed an appropriate descriptor within the context of this statement. LOL!!!

Truth be told, I was glad to see them build Fenny for perhaps a strange reason.

In my opinion they do a great job of managing this place.
So long as they are building they will continue to manage.

Imagine what this place would be like with the INMATES trying to run it.

[Bjeanj]

So now, a three time poster has swooped in, stirred the pot, and not responded to questions to him/her. As Toymeister points out, more detail would be helpful, but so far, nothing. I am anxiously waiting to see how this thread evolves/devolves.

[manaboutown]

Truth be told, I was glad to see them build Fenny for perhaps a strange reason.

In my opinion they do a great job of managing this place.
So long as they are building they will continue to manage.

Imagine what this place would be like with the INMATES trying to run it.

I fully agree with your assessment of the situation!

[villagerjack]

No problems always professional never any pressure

[graciegirl]

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[OpusX1]

Here is a thought. There have always been crooks, cheats, liars and scofflaws in the buying, selling and rental of real estate. It certainly doesn't matter at all if they are realtors, buyers agents, sellers agents, dual agents or single agents.
I was at a closing once with another agent that said to my sellers " Now that you signed the contract I can tell you that the buyers would have gone higher" this after she had them sign a form stating she was a sellers agent. Needless to say I made sure $8000 plus for the sellers and the brokers commission were returned to the seller. I have had Attorneys try to cheat. It goes on and on.
Any way if I were the developers here I would be doing the same thing. I would not cooperate with realtors since there is no good reason to do so. I believe but am not positive of the Florida law that the Village agents selling pre owned are sellers agents and must follow Florida law regarding Agency. Of course with new homes they are agents of the developer.
As far as the OP since we don't know the problem and the logistics we can offer no help.

[bagboy]

If I can go back to what little we think we know of the OPs complaint. The OP has a complaint with an agent about an addendum, and what was supposed to be in the addendum. My point in a previous post explained further is this: If a buyer or seller changes one or more terms while negotiating a contract, in this case a Real Estate Purchase Agreement, that change must be in the form of an addendum, and that addendum MUST be agreed to and signed by all parties involved, period. There is no gray area. I'm not interested in feeling sorry for the OP or bashing The Villages Real Estate agency. I have no idea who said what and who said they would do whatever.
But, I can say with certainty that it is the responsibility of each party in a transaction to read, understand, and approve of every detail of a contract including one or more addendums. If the OP assumed something without verifying, that's on them. In this case, an attorney review might here been a wise choice.

[graciegirl]

I would like to apologize to Manabouttown for my cutting response above.

Our family hopes that someday you will come here and live and enjoy it like we do.

[RMarkland]

upon receiving the inspection report which had many items i prepared a very specific list which was given to the agent as a requirement to be cured. the agent said the owner would take care of. all of this was done by email so there should be no dispute. upon moving in i discovered that they were not completed. (we did not attend the walk through since we were in st. louis at that time) "our" agent assured that all was taken care of. )
One notable item was 7 splash blocks to direct the water away the home. during out first big rain storm I noted that they were not installed. Called the agent who said yes they were he had seen them. when i asked for him to be a witness so that i could file a police report he then suddenly remembered he might be confusing our home with another...
after a lot of pestering he finally threw down the splash blocks .. apparently water does run uphill as far as he was concerned. when i asked for a discussion with a superior i was denied that opportunity. after asking multiple times for a meeting i was specifically denied that opportunity.
i then filed a claim with the state AG office who sent it on to the division of real estate, who just yesterday 10/27/17 responded with a letter saying that they did not break any real estate license law and i might want to get an attorney involved.
That could be expensive since i can do all the items with a handyman for less than $1000. using an attorney will cost as much or more and just increase my costs.
very poor customer service on the part of Properties of the Villages. it sure appears that they do not care about resales, and customer satisfaction. even when there are details in writing expressing what they were to do.

[manaboutown]

I would like to apologize to Manabouttown for my cutting response above.

Our family hopes that someday you will come here and live and enjoy it like we do.

Apology accepted, GG! I would love to make that move but am unable to do so at this time for family reasons.

[RMarkland]

it was a resale.

[Mrs. Robinson]

For most of us, you have never bought anything more expensive than a home.

The agent usually works for the seller. So as you drive aground with this friendly, personable person REMIND YOURSELF EVERY FEW MINUTES that they work for the seller. Everything you say is being heard by a SPY. You say that home is surely worth xxxxxxx but we will offer xxxxx perhaps we can get it for less. They go back to the seller and say they are offering xxxxxx but surely they will go higher.

In real estate only written things are binding.

The Villages agents work for the seller, i.e., the developer.

The majority of Realtors work as Transaction agents, working for neither buyer or seller. By law, they must divulge all important details to both and treat them both fairly. There is a legal form which is signed to indicate this.

Very few Realtors work as a seller's or buyer's agent.

[Mrs. Robinson]

i would like to hear from any resident that has had problems with The Villages Resales department and their lack of follow through. Particularly items what should have been added to an addendum but were not even though they stated to the contrary. Any comments regarding the accuracy of the agent. Am currently discussing these matters with the AG office and any additional facts would be helpful to all of us residents.

If you have an issue regarding anything legal concerning the purchase of your resale property, or simply have a question, this site will help you out:

RE - Home (http://www.myfloridalicense.com/dbpr/RE/index.html)

If you need more information and need to speak with someone, the phone number is on the left hand side of the site.

[gweisheipl]

We just closed using TV Title Company and agent Kristin Coleman. Excellent experience - Absolutely no issues!

[bilcon]

Never had a problem selling or buying our two home using The Villages. Everything was taken care of and the closings were simple. No stress. You do need to discuss all the particulars with your agent before you sign any contract. No different than any business transaction.

[OldManTime]

Caveat Emptor

[graciegirl]

Caveat Emptor

Well said.

Also;

Sero
venietibus
osso

[sallybowron]

They did ours

[sallybowron]

We have closed on two different homes and we had nothing but good to say about them.

[manaboutown]

Sero
venietibus
osso (sic)

Those who come late get the bones? I do not follow. Is this a non sequitur to the OP or what?

sero venientibus ossa - Latin-English Dictionary - Glosbe (https://glosbe.com/la/en/sero%20venientibus%20ossa)

[graciegirl]

This who come late get the bones?

sero venientibus ossa - Latin-English Dictionary - Glosbe (https://glosbe.com/la/en/sero%20venientibus%20ossa)

You snooze, you lose. The view lots in The Village we live in sold in seven hours a little over six years ago.

We found a house we really, really liked a lot in Hadley when we first came here and waited a half an hour too long. They ended up being very good friends who lived next door to us, but I really wanted THEIR house.

[manaboutown]

You snooze, you lose. The view lots in The Village we live in sold in seven hours a little over six years ago.

We found a house we really, really liked a lot in Hadley when we first came here and waited a half an hour too long. They ended up being very good friends who lived next door to us, but I really wanted THEIR house.

Oh, ok. I get your point and of course agree with it based on several of my own experiences elsewhere.

[Bjeanj]

We used June Brine of The Villages Realty when we looked for a home here. After we had come to an agreement with the seller, the woman realized she had forgotten to exclude the dining room chandelier as part of the sale. June explained to her that it was too late, but she would ask us. After some thought, we agreed to let her take it so long as she bought our choice of a replacement and have it installed. It was an informal arrangement, no addendum, but it turned out the exact way we agreed to, and June made sure of that. So, we had absolutely no issues when we bought our home.

[fw102807]

No problems at all

[perrjojo]

Sometimes you must close in abscecia but that is always a risk. I’m sorry it did not work out well for you.

[manaboutown]

Sometimes you must close in abscecia but that is always a risk. I’m sorry it did not work out well for you.

That seems to be quite common these days and not just in The Villages. The level of electronic communication we have available today makes it feasible, quick and easy. I bought a house in Idaho two months ago and closed on it with a Notary coming to my house in California.

Of course it is best to have retained a trustworthy and reliable BUYER'S agent to follow up on all the inspections and to-do lists resulting therefrom. I had termite and Radon checks as well as a thorough inspection of the house and its systems. No problem.