Speeding golf carts.......again....My rant

[BobnBev]

On O'Dell Circle, going uphill by the rec center, this golf cart with 2 occupants in their 30's passed me at a minimum of 30 mph. I am certified in laser, radar, and vascar, and I can judge speed within 2 mph.

The time is coming to have identifying numbers of some kind, just like on a boat or on a small plate as on a m/c. How else can we stop these lunatics and their hot rod golf carts. There just isn't enough Sheriffs to get the job done. :ho:

[village dreamer]

oh boy , are you sure you want to go there.

[lake5798]

Oh brother!!! No turn signals, people on cell phones, rolling stop signs etc... These are much more detrimental to our safety than a golf cart that goes over the 20mph speed limit!!! JMO

[DonH57]

I don't believe you will see a consistent heavily blanketed enforcement on speeding golf carts any time soon. Just won't happen and probably never will. Sure, the sheriff's offices are as lucky as the occasional lucky squirrel getting a nut enforcement.

[bbbbbb]

[QUOTE=BobnBev;1467448]On O'Dell Circle, going uphill by the rec center, this golf cart with 2 occupants in their 30's passed me at a minimum of 30 mph. I am certified in laser, radar, and vascar, and I can judge speed within 2 mph.

The time is coming to have identifying numbers of some kind, just like on a boat or on a small plate as on a m/c. How else can we stop these lunatics and their hot rod golf carts. There just isn't enough Sheriffs to get the job done.

Response and comment:
Yes, the speeders are wild, and when is it going to get controlled? You can only control something if you have standards, if you have enforcement, and penalties, unfortunately, the 12 year old in 70 year old bodies is really out of hand.
I could really list some words here about that, but it does not make any difference, because a speed person or a gear head, wants that speed, that noise, that threat of a mangled injury. We are in a retirement community, that should justify some standards and number one should be safety. When an emphasis is on speed, on maximum velocity on roaring around here, there then there will be problems. I know there are persons who do not agree with me,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, but,,,,,,,
we could have ID numbers on the carts, encourage folks to take pictures, encourage the Sheriff to check in once in awhile. Let us all be free to walk, to bike to cart or to drive a car and not have to feel like we are on a speedway. If there is such a desire for speed and unsafe driving, then go to Daytona or another racetrack and do it right for all those thrills and then you will not hurt some older person or someones child. Be safe, slow down here, speed kills.
Just 20 MPH is 29 feet per second. Note also a golf cart is designed to be used on a GOLF COURSE moving at maybe 10 mph maximum.
It is not a race car. Slow down so every one can enjoy this place.
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[Dklink]

While stopped in my car at Ria Grande and Delmar stop sign, a golf cart came flying through without stopping on my right. If someone was crossing from my left there is no way that golf cart would have seen them since my car blocked the view. The golf cart should have merged in with traffic before the stop sign.

[dewilson58]

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[karostay]

Sad to say The friendliest home town has taken a doward turn

[ColdNoMore]

As long as the one doing the passing does not create a hazard, eg; cutting another off or almost causing a wreck, why does being passed or seeing a cart exceeding 20 mph...seem to enrage so many people? :confused:


I think maybe some self-reflection is in order. :shrug:

[TommyT]

Rules don't apply to some, didn't you know that.

Entitled !!!

[Taltarzac725]

On O'Dell Circle, going uphill by the rec center, this golf cart with 2 occupants in their 30's passed me at a minimum of 30 mph. I am certified in laser, radar, and vascar, and I can judge speed within 2 mph.

The time is coming to have identifying numbers of some kind, just like on a boat or on a small plate as on a m/c. How else can we stop these lunatics and their hot rod golf carts. There just isn't enough Sheriffs to get the job done. :ho:

They should set up some of those cameras that click on the offender when he/she goes by at a certain speed and organize this with the pictures taken at the gates nearby.

Not sure how they track down the gate crashers when they break down one of the gates.

[Jayhawk]

Sad to say The friendliest home town has taken a doward turn

If 1,000 cart drivers were guilty of this behavior, it would be less than 1% of TV population.

Since we only hear about the occasional driver, I don't think that's an indictment of The Villages going to he!!.

[Lottoguy]

Maybe your the one who was going really slow? You might not be as good as you once were...

[TimeForChange]

Been here six years now. I have seen just about everything re golf carts. The worst and most dangerous is passing another cart or a biker on a curve or hill with no vision of oncoming traffic. I was going up the hill on my bike by the Winn Dixie at Sumter and a young guy with his wife and two children on the back seat passed me on the hill and there was no way he could see what was coming. If another cart hit them head on it is very likely there would have been death or serious injury. Another was a guy making the turn into the Havana tunnel next to the parking lot. He did not see the biker in front of him and slammed on his brakes. The cart flipped onto the driver side. His golf clubs were scattered all over the cart trail. I thought at least he would have a broken collar bone or arm. No, he gathered his clubs, put them back in the bag. We helped him turn his car right side up and he said "I have to go I have a T-time. Unbelievable!

[Marathon Man]

While registration and identification would help with some issues (illegal parking, leaving the scene of an accident, etc), I don't see it helping with speeders. I doesn't work with cars.

[BobnBev]

As long as the one doing the passing does not create a hazard, eg; cutting another off or almost causing a wreck, why does being passed or seeing a cart exceeding 20 mph...seem to enrage so many people? :confused:


I think maybe some self-reflection is in order. :shrug:

ANY GOLF CART exceeding 20mph IS a hazard. They are not designed for that, the brakes are not designed for that. All you have to do is kiss a curb at that speed, goodbye control, you'll be laying on your side wondering what just happened. My cart goes 19.9 on the flats, maybe 20.3 down hill, then the governor kicks in and slows me right down.:rant-rave:
Notice I didn't refer to a LSV.

[Fredster]

Maybe your the one who was going really slow? You might not be as good as you once were...

You may have made a good point there! :bowdown:

[Fredster]

ANY GOLF CART exceeding 20mph IS a hazard. They are not designed for that, the brakes are not designed for that. All you have to do is kiss a curb at that speed, goodbye control, you'll be laying on your side wondering what just happened. My cart goes 19.9 on the flats, maybe 20.3 down hill, then the governor kicks in and slows me right down.:rant-rave:
Notice I didn't refer to a LSV.

I don’t agree, carts go 21, 22, and 23 mph quite frequently without a huge surge in accidents.
Do you really think hitting a curb at 19.9 or 20.3 mph would be any better?

[Polar Bear]

ANY GOLF CART exceeding 20mph IS a hazard...
Any moving vehicle can be a hazard. But a golf cart going a few mph over 20 automatically a hazard? No way. The ability for a cart to go a little faster as needed can prevent potentially dangerous situations also.

[rubicon]

The ability of the OP to judge a vehicle going 30mph without the aid of radar is astonishing.

For those who have speedometers which also provide Average speed stats, etc, check you average speed.

I have been here for 11 years and this issue repeats
ad nauseam and ad infinitum. I have yet to see, read hear that a golf accident was the direct result of so called speeding.

Usually its a disabled person not able to negotiate a turn,et c. a golf cart driver DUI, a golf cart driver distracted or confused

It may be, the OP claim is not just hubris, but even if it is not, I doubt there are very many golf carts that can maintain a speed above 20mph on MMP given the congestion with other carts, bicycles and pedestrians. This topic continues to be a "nothingburger"and it is re-created every time someone gets a bee in their bonnet".

[Retiring]

Considering there are 100k+ residents and 50k carts, do we really want to make law because of a select few idiots??? Maybe having electronic speed reader boards reminding one if his speed might serve a purpose, but let’s try to not continue even further down the “big brother” slippery slope.

[Sandtrap328]

[QUOTE=ColdNoMore;1467480]As long as the one doing the passing does not create a hazard, eg; cutting another off or almost causing a wreck, why does being passed or seeing a cart exceeding 20 mph...seem to enrage so many people? :confused:
QUOTE]

Because a golf cart exceeding 20 mph is against the law if it is not Street Legal.

[dewilson58]

Posted on the Bike Police thread:

Most bikers (motorcycle & bicycle), most drivers (cars & carts) and most walkers/runners are alert,defensive and follow the laws/rules, but there are a few morons in each category.

Always has been, Always will be.

True here too.

[charmed59]

If I run across someone speeding behind me and I have lawn to my right I pull over. Once they get by me I’m nice and safe. If they are passing me I slow down so they can come back into my lane faster. Again, its much safer for me. I haven’t found speeders to be a threat. I have found folks that want to show the speeders a thing or two by hogging lanes at 17mph or speeding up when folks try to pass them to be a much bigger threat.

[Carl in Tampa]

On O'Dell Circle, going uphill by the rec center, this golf cart with 2 occupants in their 30's passed me at a minimum of 30 mph. I am certified in laser, radar, and vascar, and I can judge speed within 2 mph.

The time is coming to have identifying numbers of some kind, just like on a boat or on a small plate as on a m/c. How else can we stop these lunatics and their hot rod golf carts. There just isn't enough Sheriffs to get the job done. :ho:

Who do you propose would administer this "identification program?"

1. It would be very labor intensive to initially identify the vehicles, their owners, and put numbers on the carts. (Do you propose numbers on front and back, or just the back?)

2. How would you keep up with registrations on carts that were bought and sold? Again, very labor intensive.

3. Identifying an "offending cart" would not necessarily identify the offending driver. A very large percentage of carts are operated by renters of rental property. Often the property owner never even meets the renter, nor is aware of who is actually operating the cart.

4. Who would discipline the offenders? Police officers can make arrests in the case of misdemeanors only if the offense is committed in their presence.

5. I don't believe there is much popular sentiment in favor of putting identifying numbers on golf carts. But we might see some people putting numbers and racing stripes on them.

:gc:

[ColdNoMore]

Because a golf cart exceeding 20 mph is against the law if it is not Street Legal.

I get that...I really do.

However, doing 75 mph on the turnpike or interstate is also illegal, so why don't we see any "rants" (OP's description)... for people who drive 76 mph in 70 mph zones? :confused:

I just don't get why some people take great umbrage when they get passed by a golf cart doing 21-23 mph...while they're doing 19.9 mph. :shrug:

And once again, I'm only referencing the basic speed issue...not any other unsafe actions that may occur (even at 15 mph).

To me, and it's just my opinion, it's analogous to people who are more concerned about being killed by some radical religious nutcase...than by a drunk driver.

Even if they're 50 times more likely to be a victim of the latter...than the former.

It's just simply not logical to me.

[blaZen]

"Son you are gonna drive me to drinkin if you don't stop driving that hot rod Club Car."

[billethkid]

Many positive suggestions about how to make the MMP's and cart paths safer. Some involving the participation of local law enforcement.

In recent months it seems like speed traps in TV are no longer deployed.

The major north and south roadways overall speed now is easily 10 mph (and more) over the posted limits.

I have always maintained both golf cart and vehicle roadways should be manned by a special sherrif's force that strictly enforces the rules of the road. It does not matter how many it takes they are to be paid for out the fines input.

We all know what happens when one is approaching a town or community that STRICTLY enforces speed limits or like school zone where there is a police presence......EVERYBODY goes the speed limit.

Simple solution.

I look forward to the return of the speed traps to be commensurate with the return of our part time resident population.

Book 'em Danno!!

[Polar Bear]

...doing 75 mph on the turnpike or interstate is also illegal, so why don't we see any "rants" (OP's description)... for people who drive 76 mph in 70 mph zones? :confused:

I just don't get why some people take great umbrage when they get passed by a golf cart doing 21-23 mph...while they're doing 19.9 mph. :shrug:

And once again, I'm only referencing the basic speed issue...not any other unsafe actions that may occur (even at 15 mph...
Another one of those innumerable times when I totally agree with CNM! :)

[BobnBev]

The ability of the OP to judge a vehicle going 30mph without the aid of radar is astonishing.

For those who have speedometers which also provide Average speed stats, etc, check you average speed.

I have been here for 11 years and this issue repeats
ad nauseam and ad infinitum. I have yet to see, read hear that a golf accident was the direct result of so called speeding.

Usually its a disabled person not able to negotiate a turn,et c. a golf cart driver DUI, a golf cart driver distracted or confused

It may be, the OP claim is not just hubris, but even if it is not, I doubt there are very many golf carts that can maintain a speed above 20mph on MMP given the congestion with other carts, bicycles and pedestrians. This topic continues to be a "nothingburger"and it is re-created every time someone gets a bee in their bonnet".

Really nothing astonishing about it. It takes weeks, and even months practicing before you can take the test to get certified. Once you are certified, and ONLY if you are certified, then the courts will recognize your ability to operate radar, laser (lidar) or vascar.

[fourandrew]

On O'Dell Circle, going uphill by the rec center, this golf cart with 2 occupants in their 30's passed me at a minimum of 30 mph. I am certified in laser, radar, and vascar, and I can judge speed within 2 mph.

The time is coming to have identifying numbers of some kind, just like on a boat or on a small plate as on a m/c. How else can we stop these lunatics and their hot rod golf carts. There just isn't enough Sheriffs to get the job done. :ho:


How does someone get 'certified' in laser, radar and whatever the heck vascar is?:spoken:

[Polar Bear]

Really nothing astonishing about it...
Speak for yourself.

And I have little doubt that even with the highly trained there is the possibility of significant error...especially in such a sudden, uncontrolled situation.

[CFrance]

[QUOTE=BobnBev;1467448]On O'Dell Circle, going uphill by the rec center, this golf cart with 2 occupants in their 30's passed me at a minimum of 30 mph. I am certified in laser, radar, and vascar, and I can judge speed within 2 mph.

The time is coming to have identifying numbers of some kind, just like on a boat or on a small plate as on a m/c. How else can we stop these lunatics and their hot rod golf carts. There just isn't enough Sheriffs to get the job done.

Response and comment:
Yes, the speeders are wild, and when is it going to get controlled? You can only control something if you have standards, if you have enforcement, and penalties, unfortunately, the 12 year old in 70 year old bodies is really out of hand.
I could really list some words here about that, but it does not make any difference, because a speed person or a gear head, wants that speed, that noise, that threat of a mangled injury. We are in a retirement community, that should justify some standards and number one should be safety. When an emphasis is on speed, on maximum velocity on roaring around here, there then there will be problems. I know there are persons who do not agree with me,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, but,,,,,,,
we could have ID numbers on the carts, encourage folks to take pictures, encourage the Sheriff to check in once in awhile. Let us all be free to walk, to bike to cart or to drive a car and not have to feel like we are on a speedway. If there is such a desire for speed and unsafe driving, then go to Daytona or another racetrack and do it right for all those thrills and then you will not hurt some older person or someones child. Be safe, slow down here, speed kills.
Just 20 MPH is 29 feet per second. Note also a golf cart is designed to be used on a GOLF COURSE moving at maybe 10 mph maximum.
It is not a race car. Slow down so every one can enjoy this place.
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I agree. I mean, c'mon...even our BODIES have an ID number in The Villages--why not golf carts. (Meant to be somewhat humorous, but I do agree with Many b's.)

[rubicon]

Really nothing astonishing about it. It takes weeks, and even months practicing before you can take the test to get certified. Once you are certified, and ONLY if you are certified, then the courts will recognize your ability to operate radar, laser (lidar) or vascar.

Please my intent was not to question your veracity but without GPS, radar its difficult to pinpoint speed other than to say the other guy was going faster. In the situation you explain the driver could have been going slower or faster than 30mph.

Some folks just get annoyed and some down right resentful when another vehicle passes them whether its on the road or a MMP.

I only get mad if the overtaking is "unsafe". Again given the heavy traffic both on roads and MMP's there are not many people able to "make their move".

On many roadways they study the traffic patterns , speed of drivers and then make adjustment therein. The majority of drivers on MMP's are sensible people and as such adjust according to their environment in a responsible manner.

Every time this subject comes up it amounts to "that driver" (singular) but expands into a crisis on the MMP's ??????????

[Polar Bear]

...The majority of drivers on MMP's are sensible people and as such adjust according to their environment in a responsible manner.

Every time this subject comes up it amounts to "that driver" (singular) but expands into a crisis on the MMP's ??????????
:agree:

[spring_chicken]

I get that...I really do.

However, doing 75 mph on the turnpike or interstate is also illegal, so why don't we see any "rants" (OP's description)... for people who drive 76 mph in 70 mph zones? :confused:

I just don't get why some people take great umbrage when they get passed by a golf cart doing 21-23 mph...while they're doing 19.9 mph. :shrug:

And once again, I'm only referencing the basic speed issue...not any other unsafe actions that may occur (even at 15 mph).

To me, and it's just my opinion, it's analogous to people who are more concerned about being killed by some radical religious nutcase...than by a drunk driver.

Even if they're 50 times more likely to be a victim of the latter...than the former.

It's just simply not logical to me.

Exactly. Some people just have nothing better to do than find things to worry about. I passed a golf cart that was going all of 15mph. The driver yelled at me "what's your hurry!"
I chuckled as I thought to myself, "I wonder which TOTV poster that is and why he thinks it's any of his business."
If you worry about yourself, you'll have your hands full.

[Henryk]

I don’t agree, carts go 21, 22, and 23 mph quite frequently without a huge surge in accidents.
Do you really think hitting a curb at 19.9 or 20.3 mph would be any better?

I think if you hit a curb going 20 mph in your cart, you're going to flipped onto your side. And the possibility of injury is high.

[Henryk]

If I run across someone speeding behind me and I have lawn to my right I pull over. Once they get by me I’m nice and safe. If they are passing me I slow down so they can come back into my lane faster. Again, its much safer for me. I haven’t found speeders to be a threat. I have found folks that want to show the speeders a thing or two by hogging lanes at 17mph or speeding up when folks try to pass them to be a much bigger threat.

I agree. I look for a spot with a clear, long view, pull over, slow to 5 mph, signal them to pass, and wave. Except for one instance, they wave back.

[Fredster]

I think if you hit a curb going 20 mph in your cart, you're going to flipped onto your side. And the possibility of injury is high.

You apparently didn’t understand what I wrote.
I said if you hit a curb at 19.9 or 20.3 mph the
possibility of injury is still high.
So maybe using caution and good sense at any speed is in order!
IMHO I think there are a few cart drivers in TV,
that are careless or incapable at 15mph! :thumbup:

[rubicon]

Exactly. Some people just have nothing better to do than find things to worry about. I passed a golf cart that was going all of 15mph. The driver yelled at me "what's your hurry!"
I chuckled as I thought to myself, "I wonder which TOTV poster that is and why he thinks it's any of his business."
If you worry about yourself, you'll have your hands full.

Yes, and and as you pass him at 17.5mph he is thinking to himself, "well that guy is going like a son of gun", goes home gets on TOTV and writes "speeding golf cart"... "lock him up":D

[ColdNoMore]

Another one of those innumerable times when I totally agree with CNM! :)

"Innumerable" equals what...two times now? :D

[Fredster]

How does someone get 'certified' in laser, radar and whatever the heck vascar is?:spoken:

I think they get a circuit board implant which gives them,
the special ability to determine speed accurately
without a radar gun!
:1rotfl:

[dewilson58]

How does someone get 'certified' in laser, radar and whatever the heck vascar is?:spoken:

Online certification available.............just send a check.

[Henryk]

You apparently didn’t understand what I wrote.
I said if you hit a curb at 19.9 or 20.3 mph the
possibility of injury is still high.
So maybe using caution and good sense at any speed is in order!
IMHO I think there are a few cart drivers in TV,
that are careless or incapable at 15mph! :thumbup:

Evidently, I misunderstood. My bad.

[KJ1325]

Evidently, I misunderstood. My bad.I see cars going 40 in a 35. And cars going 75 in a 70. When we were visiting sometimes I would just poke along at maybe 10 or 15 mile an hour and I was amazed how many people were upset I was going too slow. And the cart we had would go 20.5 (over the limit) downhill if I was wide open. While I can agree that slow carts or carts going too fast are frustrating. I also see the same thing with automobiles. I'm not sure there's an easy fix. maybe just common sense.

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[autumnspring]

Yes, and and as you pass him at 17.5mph he is thinking to himself, "well that guy is going like a son of gun", goes home gets on TOTV and writes "speeding golf cart"... "lock him up":D

First of all for the FACTS. According to a previous post the police are available one day a month at the Savanna center.
I've not gone. My cart is set to the LEGAL LIMIT which is 20 mph.

Far as I know, if your cart is SET faster than that you must have PLATES on it, be a licensed driver AND HAVE INSURANCE.

Yes, it is easy to turn up the speed. THERE ARE FEW THAT WILL ADMIT THEY ARE WRONG.

Sadly, may will dismiss my thought but........... You may want to check. If, your cart is set for more than the LEGAL 20 MPH and you are involved in an accident even if you of course think it is not your fault LEGALLY IT IS YOUR FAULT. If, someone is injured. If, you have insurance YOU HAVE VOIDED YOUR INSURANCE.

The golf cart paths are crowded. MOST of the carts are doing the LEGAL 20 mph. The paths are designed for at most 20 mph.

BETWEEN ALL THE TIMES THAT YOU ARE FORCED TO SLOW DOWN FOR LEGAL DRIVERS. ALL THE STOPS AS YOU CROSS STREETS. HOW MUCH FASTER THAN 20MPH DO YOU THINK YOU ACTUALLY GO? HOW MANY PEOPLE DO YOU TICK OFF? HOW MANY PEOPLE DO YOU ENDANGER?

THINK-

[justjim]

There have been eight or nine fatalities while driving or riding in a golf cart in TV. Zero have been attributed to a speeding golf cart. Tagging all golf carts----slippery slope for sure.

"Government exists to protect us from each other. Where Government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves". Ronald Reagan

That said, 30 mph in a golf cart is a bit too fast for me to feel comfortable driving or riding in a golf cart. Fore!

[DonH57]

First of all for the FACTS. According to a previous post the police are available one day a month at the Savanna center.
I've not gone. My cart is set to the LEGAL LIMIT which is 20 mph.

Far as I know, if your cart is SET faster than that you must have PLATES on it, be a licensed driver AND HAVE INSURANCE.

Yes, it is easy to turn up the speed. THERE ARE FEW THAT WILL ADMIT THEY ARE WRONG.

Sadly, may will dismiss my thought but........... You may want to check. If, your cart is set for more than the LEGAL 20 MPH and you are involved in an accident even if you of course think it is not your fault LEGALLY IT IS YOUR FAULT. If, someone is injured. If, you have insurance YOU HAVE VOIDED YOUR INSURANCE.

The golf cart paths are crowded. MOST of the carts are doing the LEGAL 20 mph. The paths are designed for at most 20 mph.

BETWEEN ALL THE TIMES THAT YOU ARE FORCED TO SLOW DOWN FOR LEGAL DRIVERS. ALL THE STOPS AS YOU CROSS STREETS. HOW MUCH FASTER THAN 20MPH DO YOU THINK YOU ACTUALLY GO? HOW MANY PEOPLE DO YOU TICK OFF? HOW MANY PEOPLE DO YOU ENDANGER?

THINK-

The police are available one day a month at the Savannah Center? Is that where one would go to to turn violators in? Which day of the month and the hours? Is there usually a long line? I hope the times don't conflict with happy hours.

[BobnBev]

How does someone get 'certified' in laser, radar and whatever the heck vascar is?:spoken:

Well, first you must be a police officer, then you take training courses, then you must pass a proficiency test to get certified. Then, and only then, will your testimony as an expert be recognized by the courts.

BTW, vascar is a machine that computes time over distance equals speed.:boom:

[npwalters]

On O'Dell Circle, going uphill by the rec center, this golf cart with 2 occupants in their 30's passed me at a minimum of 30 mph. I am certified in laser, radar, and vascar, and I can judge speed within 2 mph.

The time is coming to have identifying numbers of some kind, just like on a boat or on a small plate as on a m/c. How else can we stop these lunatics and their hot rod golf carts. There just isn't enough Sheriffs to get the job done. :ho:

You are certified in laser, etc. Were you using one of the listed devices? I seriously doubt anyone can judge speed within 2 mph by eye.

I'm a licensed pilot with 41 years of experience and I can't accurately judge a planes altitude from the ground. I agree with the rant characterization.

[DonH57]

Exactly. Some people just have nothing better to do than find things to worry about. I passed a golf cart that was going all of 15mph. The driver yelled at me "what's your hurry!"
I chuckled as I thought to myself, "I wonder which TOTV poster that is and why he thinks it's any of his business."
If you worry about yourself, you'll have your hands full.

LOL. I passed one on the MMP one day doing about 12 mph. Assuring a good clear distance while passing he screamed " Slow the f@#$ down a$$ hole. My stomach hurt from laughing the rest of the evening.

[the square]

we visited a development in Kissimmee called Solavita.. their golf carts had registering numbers and the people we talked to had no problems with it. accidents were very rare. I know they have fewer carts than we do but the plan works..

[Polar Bear]

we visited a development in Kissimmee called Solavita.. their golf carts had registering numbers and the people we talked to had no problems with it. accidents were very rare. I know they have fewer carts than we do but the plan works..
Their system works. TV system works. Guess we're all just a bunch of happy campers. Right? :)

[rubicon]

First of all for the FACTS. According to a previous post the police are available one day a month at the Savanna center.
I've not gone. My cart is set to the LEGAL LIMIT which is 20 mph.

Far as I know, if your cart is SET faster than that you must have PLATES on it, be a licensed driver AND HAVE INSURANCE.

Yes, it is easy to turn up the speed. THERE ARE FEW THAT WILL ADMIT THEY ARE WRONG.

Sadly, may will dismiss my thought but........... You may want to check. If, your cart is set for more than the LEGAL 20 MPH and you are involved in an accident even if you of course think it is not your fault LEGALLY IT IS YOUR FAULT. If, someone is injured. If, you have insurance YOU HAVE VOIDED YOUR INSURANCE.

The golf cart paths are crowded. MOST of the carts are doing the LEGAL 20 mph. The paths are designed for at most 20 mph.

BETWEEN ALL THE TIMES THAT YOU ARE FORCED TO SLOW DOWN FOR LEGAL DRIVERS. ALL THE STOPS AS YOU CROSS STREETS. HOW MUCH FASTER THAN 20MPH DO YOU THINK YOU ACTUALLY GO? HOW MANY PEOPLE DO YOU TICK OFF? HOW MANY PEOPLE DO YOU ENDANGER?

THINK-

Did you not read that I said "passed the other cart at 17.5 mph? "

Passing is legal, unless its done in an unsafe manner.

I am not promoting or damning carts going a few miles over 20mph. I do believe 30mph is too much for a cart.

I believe like on any roadway sometimes drivers just have to make their move in order to thin out the bottle neck and so a little extra speed is a +

Would you suggest that all drivers subordinate themselves and move no faster than the cart in front of them?

We have some 90 + miles of MMP's and over 55,000 carts in TV and its growing. The Villages lifestyle has greatly altered the use and need of golf carts.

Look at the logistics, especially once they connect Fenney.

The nation increased the speed limits on many highways because interstate travel placed a demand on the need

This "we have always done it that way" thinking needs another look.

To a few here going 1/10 of mph more is a mortal sin deserving of severe punishment, with a few posters actually exhibiting schadenfreude at the aspect that a golf cart owner be fined for driving an unregistered cart

Personal Best Regards:

[Chatbrat]

In Fl its illegal to cross a solid white line to pass--the only acceptable reasons are to turn left and to avoid an accident--crossing a solid white is the same as a car crossing a solid yellow line

And to people ranting about cars going 5mph over the posted speed limit--in Fl you will only receive a warning for 5mph or less over the posted speed limit-in all reality LEO's will only issue tickets for 9MPH+---thats when the $$$ kicks in

[banjobob]

Speding in a golf cart is not a big deal, done safely , reckless driving is always dangerous those that complain about speeding carts probably complain about everything in their lives, restaurant food or service grocery store lines , slow play golf ETC.

[Viperguy]

RELAX! Can't/shouldn't legislate everything! Stupid is stupid. They will get theirs eventually. Want a new law, move to Washington?

[Judy n Ron]

While I agree about the speeding golf carts, more alarming are the number of adults allowing young kids under 12 to operate the carts. In addition, so many hold infants on their laps. If the driver jams on the brakes, what happens to the child when the adult naturally braces for potential impact? The speeders that are most alarming are the delivery people and lawn people, and YES, C2MHill in many cases are guilty of 45 in a 20 zone. There are people walking, biking, jogging etc in a community with NO sidewalks and dealing with UPS women and men taking corners on 2 wheels. It has truly become a gauntlet of craziness on our streets and paths. We have observed that if the local deputies started writing some tickets, maybe the madness will tone down while helping the local government budgets.

[LuannBlue]

Look at the people who run red lights and don’t even know or follow the traffic laws in their cars. They have major health problems, cataracts, post stroke, early dementia, DUI, suspended licenses. All the adult kids who live there that have criminal records, etc, and you’re wanting golf cart cops. How about worrying about the cars and all the adult kids, and lawn care guys with their big trailers who speed through the housing areas first.

[bobnyce]

All compliance has dropped off in the last two years - cars and carts. We live on Rio Grande race track and seldom is anyone driving the speed limit unless they are following me. Commom sense and some respect for those who live along these access roads! Only enforcement will have any effect. Hit them in the wallet. Maybe a stop sign at every intersection woukd help. Even the three way intersections. If they have to pause, cause they don't stop, it might help. After all quiet, speed and consideration are some of the very reasons we moved here. SLOW DOWN PLEASE. By the way speeding is not restricted to our main roads. Many speed on our interior roads as well. It will continue unless someone enforces the rules! Entitled is an understatement.

[Pamela Sloan]

I never drive anywhere in The Villages without seeing speeding golf carts, golf carts running stop signs, etc. Just recently I saw a golf cart pull in front of a car so close that the driver of the car had to slam on his brakes and the golf cart driver gave the car driver a salute - not one of kindness! I've said for years that I think golf carts should be licensed and every driver should have to take a drivers course. Just sayin.............

[OhioBuckeye]

Yes, O'dell Circle is only one place where I get passed when I'm going the speed limit of 20 mph. I've only seen one person EVER in the 6 yrs. that I've lived here that's gotten pulled over & that was on O'dell Circle. Always makes me wonder why people are in such a big hurry to get somewhere, what's wrong with leaving a little early to get where you're going. I agree with someone else's complaint, some cart drivers don't stop at stop signs, they fly right through them then throw their hands up or give you a dirty look or curse at you even when you stop & they haven't even gotten to the stop sign to fly right on through it. There's just a lot of rude people that do these kind of things. Maybe it's because that's the way people treated them where they come from. As far as speeding, if the police aren't going to enforce the speed limits on carts, take your chances & go as fast as you can because so far I think go as fast as you can because your odds are in favor of the speeder that they won't got pulled over. Besides when I take my cart to the Yamaha dealership they always have me sign a waiver to check my cart to see how fast it runs & everytime I get it back it never, ever runs faster than 18mph.

[Polar Bear]

I guess I’m just extremely lucky.

I’ve been piloting a car, a cart, and a bicycle in TV for about four years now, and I’ve seen maybe two or three instances where I thought a cart driver did something that might be considered dangerously reckless.

[Bowtorc]

Way too much concern.

[tmbromley]

As long as the one doing the passing does not create a hazard, eg; cutting another off or almost causing a wreck, why does being passed or seeing a cart exceeding 20 mph...seem to enrage so many people? :confused:


I think maybe some self-reflection is in order. :shrug:
Amen brother. This is such a tiresome discussion....zzzzzzzzzz!

You want a pet peave: people walking their dogs in the marked cart lane with a sidewalk directly across the street - that is much more irritating and dangerous or people walking two abreast around a curve on the rec path - talk about dangerous.

Some golf cart speeding ...eh..🙄. Even if identified ... what are going to do run em down and write a ticket. I think not.

[yabbadu]

Can this thread be stopped....Same subject over and over and over..........

[Jayhawk]

I guess I’m just extremely lucky.

I’ve been piloting a car, a cart, and a bicycle in TV for about four years now, and I’ve seen maybe two or three instances where I thought a cart driver did something that might be considered dangerously reckless.

Me too. Guess we need to get out more. Apparently, it's happening "everywhere all the time."

:swear:

[BobnBev]

I never drive anywhere in The Villages without seeing speeding golf carts, golf carts running stop signs, etc. Just recently I saw a golf cart pull in front of a car so close that the driver of the car had to slam on his brakes and the golf cart driver gave the car driver a salute - not one of kindness! I've said for years that I think golf carts should be licensed and every driver should have to take a drivers course. Just sayin.............

:pray: AMEN :bigbow:

[lenny vee]

oh boy, take a picture while driving youyr own golf cart

[kcrazorbackfan]

Wow! This thread is giving the dog poop threads a run for the money. The Villages gives people the opportunity to do so many things and time is short with the age of most people so I would guess that people are speeding to get to their next activity.

Lighten up. I don't remember the news of anyone getting killed because of a cart going too fast; maybe driving stupid or driving drunk but not from speeding. I wrote many thousands of tickets during my career; rarely issued one less than 10mph over unless other infractions occurred.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

I'm much more concerned about elderly people that should;t be driving at all.
I once helped a lady who I thought had fallen down in her driveway. she was trying to plug her charger in. She explained to me that she is legally blind and they won't let her drive a car so her only alternative is to drive a golf cart.

I was driving on the path beside Paradise Lake a few weeks ago and a woman in a car was heading directly at me in the opposite direction. She swerved to miss me, literally by inches, at the very last second.

Another time I was driving in my cart and a guy came to a full and complete stop at a stop sign. Then he pulled out in front of me and I had to slam on my brakes so hard that I skidded and my tires screeched.

A cart going 22 or 25 or even 30 down a road or in cart lane is nowhere near top of the list that we have with problem drivers in this community.

Afew MPH over the limit not usually a big problem.

[donnie426]

Are you serious you can tell my speed within 2 mph. you cant be for real

[Wiotte]

Are you serious you can tell my speed within 2 mph. you cant be for real



I can spell any word backwards and distance, within 2ft. any object within 100 yards. Speed measurement is an technique taught to law enforcement and admissible in court with the proper certification.


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[BobnBev]

Are you serious you can tell my speed within 2 mph. you cant be for real

Ya know, it really doesn't matter what you believe, the courts have accepted it and it is what it is.:icon_bored:

[Chi33]

I just would like to ask those who slow down, however to a non-passable speed, when I am behind them (or others) to maybe speed up or let me pass. Thank you.

[Polar Bear]

Ya know, it really doesn't matter what you believe, the courts have accepted it and it is what it is.:icon_bored:
I’m sure the courts have accepted your device expertise.

Your visual judgement of speeds within two mph? I have my doubts.

[Topspinmo]

I can spell any word backwards and distance, within 2ft. any object within 100 yards. Speed measurement is an technique taught to law enforcement and admissible in court with the proper certification.


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Yep, a RADAR gun! Pacing another, judging can be beat.

[Topspinmo]

I just would like to ask those who slow down, however to a non-passable speed, when I am behind them (or others) to maybe speed up or let me pass. Thank you.


So, I got to slow down going the limit so you can speed down the trail. Pass if you can, my time is just as important as yours.

[Topspinmo]

Ya know, it really doesn't matter what you believe, the courts have accepted it and it is what it is.:icon_bored:


ONLY By law enforcement. Not by citzens arrest or judgement.

[Topspinmo]

I'm much more concerned about elderly people that should;t be driving at all.
I once helped a lady who I thought had fallen down in her driveway. she was trying to plug her charger in. She explained to me that she is legally blind and they won't let her drive a car so her only alternative is to drive a golf cart.

I was driving on the path beside Paradise Lake a few weeks ago and a woman in a car was heading directly at me in the opposite direction. She swerved to miss me, literally by inches, at the very last second.

Another time I was driving in my cart and a guy came to a full and complete stop at a stop sign. Then he pulled out in front of me and I had to slam on my brakes so hard that I skidded and my tires screeched.

A cart going 22 or 25 or even 30 down a road or in cart lane is nowhere near top of the list that we have with problem drivers in this community.

Afew MPH over the limit not usually a big problem.

Yep, got passed to today by cart going at least 30 or more. My expert judgement says he was going 33.789999 MPH. As long as the DA didn't put me in danger ok, but IMO it's TOO fast.

[Chi33]

So, I got to slow down going the limit so you can speed down the trail. Pass if you can, my time is just as important as yours.

No, I meant, someone going my speed purposely slowing down when someone is behind them. I had someone today going 11 MPH near Colony