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Taltarzac725
10-30-2017, 07:45 AM
Former Trump Campaign Chairman Paul Manafort Charged in Russia Probe - WSJ (https://www.wsj.com/articles/former-trump-campaign-chairman-paul-manafort-charged-in-russia-probe-1509365767)

Can they connect Donald John Trump to all of this though? He certainly benefited. He would not be President but for the help of the Russians.

graciegirl
10-30-2017, 07:47 AM
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Jack9696
10-30-2017, 07:58 AM
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Jack9696
10-30-2017, 08:02 AM
Former Trump Campaign Chairman Paul Manafort Charged in Russia Probe - WSJ (https://www.wsj.com/articles/former-trump-campaign-chairman-paul-manafort-charged-in-russia-probe-1509365767)

Can they connect Donald John Trump to all of this though? He certainly benefited. He would not be President but for the help of the Russians.Good point, Trump certainly profited from Manafort's pre election tax "issue."

Lol

Taltarzac725
10-30-2017, 08:19 AM
How Paul Manafort is connected to the Trump, Russia investigation | Fox News (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/10/30/how-paul-manafort-is-connected-to-trump-russia-investigation.html)

More information from FOX!!!

billethkid
10-30-2017, 10:24 AM
And now the spin fest/speculation/partisan BS adds fodder the the anti Trumpism movement.

They can all hope to get the same judicial preferences afforded for all Clinton's glossed over violations.

mellincf
10-30-2017, 10:38 AM
Good point, Trump certainly profited from Manafort's pre election tax "issue."

Lol Conspiracy against the United States is not a "tax issue". Manafort, Carter Page, Wilbur Ross, Mike Flynn...all paid by the Russians, all immediately hired by Trump. Hmmm.

mellincf
10-30-2017, 10:40 AM
And now the spin fest/speculation/partisan BS adds fodder the the anti Trumpism movement.

They can all hope to get the same judicial preferences afforded for all Clinton's glossed over violations.

Clinton has been a private citizen for over 7 years. Better find a different shiny object to distract.

rustyp
10-30-2017, 10:43 AM
And now the spin fest/speculation/partisan BS adds fodder the the anti Trumpism movement.

They can all hope to get the same judicial preferences afforded for all Clinton's glossed over violations.

If 5 cars in a row are speeding and you were last in line the odds are higher you get pulled over and get the ticket. Why ? You were the easiest catch with the least effort. Do you deserve the ticket ? Yes you broke the law. Do the other four deserve a ticket ? Yes but they got lucky. Laws are broken every day but not every law breaker gets caught. Do you deserve to not get a ticket because the other four didn't ? No you again you broke the law.

Jack9696
10-30-2017, 10:49 AM
Clinton has been a private citizen for over 7 years. Better find a different shiny object to distract.Your comment makes no sense.

jebartle
10-30-2017, 11:07 AM
And now the spin fest/speculation/partisan BS adds fodder the the anti Trumpism movement.

They can all hope to get the same judicial preferences afforded for all Clinton's glossed over violations.

Your "Clinton fake news" comes from the king of fake news that would be Trump!

mellincf
10-30-2017, 11:14 AM
Your comment makes no sense. I am talking about "whataboutism", the Russian propaganda used to point out "but Hillary..", "but what about uranium"...people trying to distract from the seriousness of the charge of conspiracy against the United States. Manafort is only the first domino to fall. He will sing like a bird to implicate Carter Page, Mike Flynn, Wilbur Ross, and all the other Russian paid traitors who were hired by Trump.

Jack9696
10-30-2017, 01:13 PM
I am talking about "whataboutism", the Russian propaganda used to point out "but Hillary..", "but what about uranium"...people trying to distract from the seriousness of the charge of conspiracy against the United States. Manafort is only the first domino to fall. He will sing like a bird to implicate Carter Page, Mike Flynn, Wilbur Ross, and all the other Russian paid traitors who were hired by Trump.Complete nonsense

Sandtrap328
10-30-2017, 02:30 PM
...and the end game result is "The TRUMPANZEE Goes To Prison".

:BigApplause:

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wjboyer1
10-30-2017, 02:44 PM
How Paul Manafort is connected to the Trump, Russia investigation | Fox News (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/10/30/how-paul-manafort-is-connected-to-trump-russia-investigation.html)

More information from FOX!!!

WOW....Fox has just reported what has been a news item for over 7 months now......

Love2Swim
10-30-2017, 03:03 PM
So far three indictments, one pleads guilty. Just the tip of the iceberg. Will be interesting to see how deep the graft and corruption goes, and if they can reach Trump.

Rockyrd
10-30-2017, 03:14 PM
WOW....Fox has just reported what has been a news item for over 7 months now......

What is irking is that Fox is now running hit pieces on Mueller.

They had one of those resume screens for him a few months ago sainting him, and now this.

In just months, under tutelage of Trump, he is being made from an ultimate patriot to just another person to attack.

wjboyer1
10-30-2017, 03:23 PM
Fox News' Outnumbered was more concerned about who leaked to the press that indictments were coming down today, than the actual criminal charges that have been brought to bare and their relation to the Trump administState-sponsoredsponsored TV at its finest.

Sandra Smith began their program going over the first charges brought by Special Council Robert Mueller's investigations between Trump's campaign and Russia.

After playing a short clip of Judge Napolitano from an earlier Fox News program, Sandra Smith began Trump's defense by trying to impeach the character of the Mueller Special Council and the FBI by promoting the idea that they are leakers to the press.

After the clip ended, Sandra said, "Meantime, there is growing concern over who leaked the information that the indictment was coming."

The only concern about these leakers is coming from Kellyanne Conway's email list.

Smith continued, "Fox has learned that it likely came from either the office of the special counsel, deputy Attorney General Rob Rosenstein's office or the court itself."

Then Smith played video snippets of Trump's pal Chris Christie on ABC's THIS WEEK using this talking point to smear the indictments themselves.

Christie said, "There are very strict criminal laws about disclosing grand jury information. Now depending upon who has disclosed this to CNN, it could be a crime. We have to have the public have confidence in the fact that the grand jury system is secret and as a result, fair. But again, we don't know who leaked it to CNN. It would be a crime if prosecutors or agents leaked it.

Jack9696
10-30-2017, 03:25 PM
Fox News' Outnumbered was more concerned about who leaked to the press that indictments were coming down today, than the actual criminal charges that have been brought to bare and their relation to the Trump administState-sponsoredsponsored TV at its finest.

Sandra Smith began their program going over the first charges brought by Special Council Robert Mueller's investigations between Trump's campaign and Russia.

After playing a short clip of Judge Napolitano from an earlier Fox News program, Sandra Smith began Trump's defense by trying to impeach the character of the Mueller Special Council and the FBI by promoting the idea that they are leakers to the press.

After the clip ended, Sandra said, "Meantime, there is growing concern over who leaked the information that the indictment was coming."

The only concern about these leakers is coming from Kellyanne Conway's email list.

Smith continued, "Fox has learned that it likely came from either the office of the special counsel, deputy Attorney General Rob Rosenstein's office or the court itself."

Then Smith played video snippets of Trump's pal Chris Christie on ABC's THIS WEEK using this talking point to smear the indictments themselves.

Christie said, "There are very strict criminal laws about disclosing grand jury information. Now depending upon who has disclosed this to CNN, it could be a crime. We have to have the public have confidence in the fact that the grand jury system is secret and as a result, fair. But again, we don't know who leaked it to CNN. It would be a crime if prosecutors or agents leaked it.Those exact charges were long expected, the real news was the leaks.

MSM spent the entire weekend talking about fiction.

Rockyrd
10-30-2017, 03:39 PM
Those exact charges were long expected, the real news was the leaks.

MSM spent the entire weekend talking about fiction.

Indictments that now take us beyond whispers and Twitter wars but by written indictments and the rules of federal evidence, in your opinion are not the story ?????

WOW...and George Papadopoulos pleading guilty to making false statements, accompanied by a bombshell plea agreement that includes several key details about Russia's alleged attempts to reach out to the Trump campaign. did not impress you ?

Listen, be an avid lover of Trump......but for gosh sake stop embarassing yourself with such ludicrous statements.

You sound like a uninformed shill for the WH or Fox. Make your judgements based on facts, not love of Trump. You really sound dumb with a post like yours. The weekend was NOT spent as you say, thus you simply made that up (lied) about it, and I got news for you....media is right on this and hope they stay there for the country.

Now, I realize the country comes after Trump to you, but for most of America we root for the country, when discussing a foreign power invading us with cybers to try and influence elections, and do not defend folks who have engaged in treasonous activity against our country

Love2Swim
10-30-2017, 03:56 PM
The right wing news media spent the afternoon downplaying the indictments, natch. Clearly the feds have had the one guy on the hooks for awhile, and he's pleaded guilty to a small crime in return for the information he has provided. They will now try to turn Mannafort and his buddy in exchange for reduced prison time. Trumpty Dumpty sat on a wall. Trumpty Dumpty had a great fall...when will this nightmare of Trump be over. Soon I hope, at least before he gets us into a nuclear war with North Korea.

Jack9696
10-30-2017, 04:15 PM
The right wing news media spent the afternoon downplaying the indictments, natch. Clearly the feds have had the one guy on the hooks for awhile, and he's pleaded guilty to a small crime in return for the information he has provided. They will now try to turn Mannafort and his buddy in exchange for reduced prison time. Trumpty Dumpty sat on a wall. Trumpty Dumpty had a great fall...when will this nightmare of Trump be over. Soon I hope, at least before he gets us into a nuclear war with North Korea.Clueless. Watch it unfold.

Rockyrd
10-30-2017, 05:18 PM
Clueless. Watch it unfold.

What is it that you think you know ?

Your posts are becoming more lacking in any common sense at all, nor any knowledge. Immature at best.

SO, you have information that nobody else has but have decided not to share it with all of us peons ???

You simply come on here and share little snide comments, so I assume from that evidence, that you are exactly what you say....but will add an adjective...

TOTALLY CLUELESS