This is happening in a retirement community?

[manaboutown]

According to the unmentionable online news source a 21 year old man with the possibly unfortunate last name of Dingus who resides in Country Club Hills was arrested @ 3:00 a.m. for battering his boyfriend-fiancee at their home!

So much for quiet enjoyment of life in a retirement community...

[Topspinmo]

According to the unmentionable online news source a 21 year old man with the possibly unfortunate last name of Dingus who resides in Country Club Hills was arrested @ 3:00 a.m. for battering his boyfriend-fiancee at their home!

So much for quiet enjoyment of life in a retirement community...


His fiancé must be over 55! Right------ I sure all residents in the villages play by the rules.

[Steve Y]

It's a shame there are people like this in our neck of the world

[njbchbum]

His fiancé must be over 55! Right------ I sure all residents in the villages play by the rules.

Not if he is part of the 20% of homes where residents are permitted to be under 55.

[stan the man]

According to the unmentionable online news source a 21 year old man with the possibly unfortunate last name of Dingus who resides in Country Club Hills was arrested @ 3:00 a.m. for battering his boyfriend-fiancee at their home!

So much for quiet enjoyment of life in a retirement community...

I think if you read the original article again you'll find it says 21 year old man arrested in "A" house in the historic section, not "THEIR"house

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

His fiancé must be over 55! Right------ I sure all residents in the villages play by the rules.
What rule requires all residents of The Villages to be over 55?

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Not if he is part of the 20% of homes where residents are permitted to be under 55.

It amazes me how many times this rule is misinterpreted. Full time residents under the age of 55 are allowed in 100% of the homes. The rule requires that at least 80% of the homes be occupied by AT LEAST ONE RESIDENT over the age of 55.

Doing the math it would work out like this. Let's assume that there are 80,000 homes here. Twenty percent or 16,000 of those homes could have four people, all under the age of 55 living in them. The other 64,000 homes would only need one person over the age of 55 and could be occupied by three, or more other people under 55.

Assuming the possibility of four people per household that would mean 320,000 people in total with 64,000 of them over 55 and The Villages would still legally be an over 55 community.

This scenario is, of course, highly unlikely, but it seems that a lot of people don't undertand it.

[dewilson58]

My quiet retirement life continues.

[fred53]

There is always someone who must stir the pot. Matters not whether or not it involves them and their life. They act as if there is actually a community on this planet where nothing bad ever happens. When it does "the sky is falling" and proceed to pronounce gloom and doom that never happens. *sigh*

[Taltarzac725]

Love the Villages. Very few problems for a community of this size. Well done developers. The law I believe forces them to allow a certain percentage of people of a different age in a retirement community especially since many aspects of the Villages look like governing by the Villages or agents acting mostly in their interest.

[Marathon Man]

There is always someone who must stir the pot. Matters not whether or not it involves them and their life. They act as if there is actually a community on this planet where nothing bad ever happens. When it does "the sky is falling" and proceed to pronounce gloom and doom that never happens. *sigh*

Love the Villages. Very few problems for a community of this size. Well done developers. The law I believe forces them to allow a certain percentage of people of a different age in a retirement community especially since many aspects of the Villages look like governing by the Villages or agents acting mostly in their interest.

Well said.

[justjim]

Common sense tells me that most 21 year olds would rather be living somewhere other than The Villages or any other adult retirement community. Mr. “Unhappy” will likely be moving on and rightly so.

[manaboutown]

Well, to me this is news whereas bad parking, poor driving as in not being able to properly negotiate roundabouts and having accidents from "medical events" is actually expected in an elderly community and par for the course. The unmentionable online news is a great resource for those who don't have their heads stuck in the sand and want to know what really goes on in TV.

[manaboutown]

Love the Villages. Very few problems for a community of this size. Well done developers. The law I believe forces them to allow a certain percentage of people of a different age in a retirement community especially since many aspects of the Villages look like governing by the Villages or agents acting mostly in their interest.

I don't believe the law forces 55 and over communities to allow up to 20% underage owners. As I understand it the governing statutes allow up to 20% underage owners. If the percentage of underage gets too high they lose their select status. Housing for Older Persons Act - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Housing_for_Older_Persons_Act)

I know of communities which make no exceptions (except for caregivers and disabled adult children). Here is one such. Home | Laguna Woods Village (https://www.lagunawoodsvillage.com)

[New Englander]

According to the unmentionable online news source a 21 year old man with the possibly unfortunate last name of Dingus who resides in Country Club Hills was arrested @ 3:00 a.m. for battering his boyfriend-fiancee at their home!

So much for quiet enjoyment of life in a retirement community...

Do you own or rent in TV?

[DonH57]

My quiet retirement life continues.

Same here. Not my circus, not my monkeys!

[billethkid]

There is no age restriction/discussion with resale homes. Sorta self polices as in how many "younger" and how much younger would be attracted to a senior focused environment?

The enforcement of the mix by percent (what ever it is supposed to be) is on a par with the enforcement of speeding and rolling through stop signs.

[Chatbrat]

easy pickings

[Retiring]

I don't believe the law forces 55 and over communities to allow up to 20% underage owners. As I understand it the governing statutes allow up to 20% underage owners. If the percentage of underage gets too high they lose their select status. Housing for Older Persons Act - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Housing_for_Older_Persons_Act)

I know of communities which make no exceptions (except for caregivers and disabled adult children). Here is one such. Home | Laguna Woods Village (https://www.lagunawoodsvillage.com)

When I was looking at building lots, about a year and a half ago, I was told by my agent at TV sales that I can buy, because anyone over 18 can purchase, but I cannot live in the home. Reason, I would be the sole occupant and 54 years old. He said they had reached their 20% for under 55 occupancy limit. How would they enforce that? Would I be fined? I don’t think they can physically remove me from my home, or can they.

[Bogie Shooter]

When I was looking at building lots, about a year and a half ago, I was told by my agent at TV sales that I can buy, because anyone over 18 can purchase, but I cannot live in the home. Reason, I would be the sole occupant and 54 years old. He said they had reached their 20% for under 55 occupancy limit. How would they enforce that? Would I be fined? I don’t think they can physically remove me from my home, or can they.

Yep, them agents always know what they are talking about. Kinda far fetched, if I was selling I would not make this statement.
Relax no one will be removing you from your home.

[Jayhawk]

When I was looking at building lots, about a year and a half ago, I was told by my agent at TV sales that I can buy, because anyone over 18 can purchase, but I cannot live in the home. Reason, I would be the sole occupant and 54 years old. He said they had reached their 20% for under 55 occupancy limit. How would they enforce that? Would I be fined? I don’t think they can physically remove me from my home, or can they.

Sounds like an agent who couldn't find his ass with both hands.

[Henryk]

It's a shame there are people like this in our neck of the world

There are lots of couples who have their share of arguments.

[Bogie Shooter]

Sounds like an agent who couldn't find his ass with both hands.

:a20::a20:

[Topspinmo]

What rule requires all residents of The Villages to be over 55?

When I brought sales said one had to be 55 or older living in household has that rule changed? We all know resale's are open season and nearly impossible to track. after property brought impossible to track who living in the property as long as some one paying the bills. Who going to find out if I'm 19 plus and mommy buys me house, how do they know I'm living in it or not and with whom?

[JSR22]

When I brought sales said one had to be 55 or older living in household has that rule changed? We all know resale's are open season and nearly impossible to track. after property brought impossible to track who living in the property as long as some one paying the bills. Who going to find out if I'm 19 plus and mommy buys me house, how do they know I'm living in it or not and with whom?

You can live here full time at 19.

[mulligan]

How do "they" track it ? Easily by the birthdate associated with your villages ID.

[dewilson58]

When I brought sales said one had to be 55 or older living in household has that rule changed? We all know resale's are open season and nearly impossible to track. after property brought impossible to track who living in the property as long as some one paying the bills. Who going to find out if I'm 19 plus and mommy buys me house, how do they know I'm living in it or not and with whom?

No change in rules.........sounds like a mis-understanding.

[adk77]

Don't see the point of this tread. Some people need more to do,

[Yung Dum]

It's a shame there are people like this in our neck of the world

No, It's a shame there are people like this anywhere.

[Abby10]

For those interested in the 80/20 rule -

55 & Over Housing: What is the 80/20 Rule? - April 1, 2010 - Florida Condo & HOA Law Blog (http://www.floridacondohoalawblog.com/2010/04/01/55-over-housing-what-is-the-8020-rule/)

Yes, 55+ Age-Restricted Communities Are Legal (https://www.55places.com/blog/yes-age-restricted-communities-are-legal)

[Steve9930]

Just because you live in a 55 plus community does not mean your retirement will be in a quite serine place. Criminal behavior does not have age limit. The Villages along with the surrounding retirement communities are like a beacon to the criminals, come and get it cause we got it.

[bbbbbb]

Not if he is part of the 20% of homes where residents are permitted to be under 55.

Response:
And for the requirement and rules,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Let's see, 20 percent and 80 percent and so on, so it goes for occupancy and the Under 55. So my question now is: Where is the documentation showing a 20 percent rule book that will clarify and verify these factors and prove this is a rule and prove that it is available and enforceable? Is that the same book that controls the wild activities on the MMP units, and controls the speeding on Old Camp and Old Mill roads and controls the drinking and driving? Does that good book control the babies in diapers in the Adult Pools? Good record keeping right? I have been looking for that rule book and the enforcement, guess I am not a good researcher. Just curious, please excuse me for this.
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:wave:

[Abby10]

Response:
And for the requirement and rules,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Let's see, 20 percent and 80 percent and so on, so it goes for occupancy and the Under 55. So my question now is: Where is the documentation showing a 20 percent rule book that will clarify and verify these factors and prove this is a rule and prove that it is available and enforceable? Is that the same book that controls the wild activities on the MMP units, and controls the speeding on Old Camp and Old Mill roads and controls the drinking and driving? Does that good book control the babies in diapers in the Adult Pools? Good record keeping right? I have been looking for that rule book and the enforcement, guess I am not a good researcher. Just curious, please excuse me for this.
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:wave:

See my post above with links. I believe it would be the developer in our case that would have to give an accounting of this to appropriate authorities to abide by the federal regulations on the 55+ status. If they don't and/or are not within the 80/20 parameters, TV could lose their 55+ status. At least, that's how I read it, but I'm no expert on this by any means.

[Jima64]

Thats why you buy into a real gated and guarded community.

[Jdmiata]

There is always someone who must stir the pot. Matters not whether or not it involves them and their life. They act as if there is actually a community on this planet where nothing bad ever happens. When it does "the sky is falling" and proceed to pronounce gloom and doom that never happens. *sigh*

Chicken Little is alive , well and lives in TV.

[Chatbrat]

This is why we carry

[CFrance]

My quiet retirement life continues.
I'm late responding, but very funny! 😁