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suediff
11-05-2017, 10:14 AM
On Fri our dog had an emergency situation (he recovered and is fine now) But I needed to get him to the vet ASAP. I had my flashers on and was flashing the headlights on 466A, not one person pulled over, and one that I passed, sped up to pull behind me and put his bright lights on.
Please don't assume that someone is just being an AH. Sometimes there are very legitimate reasons for trying to get someplace quickly. We can't know what is going on with someone else.
Yes, there are idiots here that will go fast just because they can, but realize that they will always be an AH.....you can get on with your life and just be happy that you are not them! Karma is alive and well, I have seen it happen more times than not.

Villager Joyce
11-05-2017, 10:20 AM
I’m pleased for your happy ending!

village dreamer
11-05-2017, 10:37 AM
yes I would think you are an ah, yes you want to get to the vet as fast as possible......but your endangering me and eveyrone around you. putting on your flashers and hi beaming other drivers makes no sense,other driver have no idea what your up to , heck most driver don't even see the police most of the time. just go to the vet as safe as you would go to the store.

l2ridehd
11-05-2017, 10:43 AM
There are so many of them, I think they are spreading. I have given up using directional lights to change lanes. When you do the person who is behind you in the lane you are trying to get into will almost always speed up to prevent you moving over. Just this AM I turned left from Beleverdere onto 466 and got in the most left lane as I entered 466. Which is correct. I wanted to go to Fresh Market so needed to move to center than the right lane. Used directional lights. BIG mistake. Every car would intentionally speed up to prevent me. I had to go to the Walmart entrance and back track as it took me so long to change lanes.

Last week in a golf cart I was going North just past Bridgeport at Lake Sumter entrance and a lady in a golf in front of me was trying to do something with a package or bag on the passenger side floor. She actually slowed to 12 mph and went off the path twice she was so distracted. So I went past her. I actually heard her say "no you don't" and she speeded up as fast as possible and tried to run me off the path.

What is wrong with people?????

tagjr1
11-05-2017, 11:10 AM
While most of us sympathize with you wanting to take care of your beloved pet, nowhere in Florida Statutes are you allowed to "Sometimes there are very legitimate reasons for trying to get someplace quickly." Your actions endangered other drivers who had no clue as to why you were in such a hurry, yourself, and your dog. Apparently your dog survived the so called emergency and in reality your "other drivers" comment is moot! Get over it!

Taltarzac725
11-05-2017, 11:15 AM
I am glad that your dog survived. You could have been pulled over by the police though for speeding and that might have cost your dog his life.

Too bad that as far as I can tell Florida law still treats pets as property. Not something you can break the law to get to safety. I could be wrong about this though. Pets as Property? | FindLaw (http://supreme.findlaw.com/legal-commentary/pets-as-property.html)

My Pet Is A Person! The Status of Pets under Florida Law (https://brickelllegal.com/pets-florida-laws/)

Marathon Man
11-05-2017, 11:19 AM
For years law enforcement has told us not to pull over when someone comes up behind flashing lights. This is a know robbery tactic. Sorry, I'm not pulling over. And yes, driving quickly, flashing high beams in rear view mirrors, etc. indeed creates a hazard for others.

CWGUY
11-05-2017, 11:26 AM
On Fri our dog had an emergency situation (he recovered and is fine now) But I needed to get him to the vet ASAP. I had my flashers on and was flashing the headlights on 466A, not one person pulled over, and one that I passed, sped up to pull behind me and put his bright lights on.
Please don't assume that someone is just being an AH. Sometimes there are very legitimate reasons for trying to get someplace quickly. We can't know what is going on with someone else.
Yes, there are idiots here that will go fast just because they can, but realize that they will always be an AH.....you can get on with your life and just be happy that you are not them! Karma is alive and well, I have seen it happen more times than not.

:evil6: Actually it's safe to assume that.... chances of being correct here are pretty high. :sigh:

Rapscallion St Croix
11-05-2017, 12:14 PM
Against Florida law to drive with hazard lights flashing.

fw102807
11-05-2017, 01:42 PM
I love dogs as much as anyone and have 2 of them myself but this was reckless behavior. You could have killed someone.

NotGolfer
11-05-2017, 03:17 PM
Against Florida law to drive with hazard lights flashing.

Yes...this is true. On that note..how many of you have seen it done during a down-pour rain??? THAT too is illegal. If it's that un-safe, then pull over until you con proceed.

I'm glad your pet is fine but truly you weren't doing the right thing in driving as you did.

autumnspring
11-05-2017, 03:44 PM
On Fri our dog had an emergency situation (he recovered and is fine now) But I needed to get him to the vet ASAP. I had my flashers on and was flashing the headlights on 466A, not one person pulled over, and one that I passed, sped up to pull behind me and put his bright lights on.
Please don't assume that someone is just being an AH. Sometimes there are very legitimate reasons for trying to get someplace quickly. We can't know what is going on with someone else.
Yes, there are idiots here that will go fast just because they can, but realize that they will always be an AH.....you can get on with your life and just be happy that you are not them! Karma is alive and well, I have seen it happen more times than not.

Your tale does not make much sense. If, you were turning on your flashers you were in a CAR a golf cart. Why did you not drive to the vet?

For that matter would you have stopped?

Do you not have a FRIEND who can count on you and who you can count on? Do you not have a cell phone? If, you do not, you can buy one cheep and get on one of the pay as you go plans-about .10 a minute.

ColdNoMore
11-05-2017, 05:10 PM
And once again...assumption becomes confirmation.

nututv
11-06-2017, 07:44 AM
I think many of you are missing the point here. If you aren't passing or turning left soon you would not have been in front of anyone as you should not be in the fast lane unless you are passing.
This is also a Florida State law but is never enforced. Once it is... many blue hairs will be missing an awful lot of bingo money.

regas56
11-06-2017, 11:14 AM
Me thinks your biggest mistake was sharing your story with many who haven't been in your shoes before..No more stressful or helpless situation than having a beloved pet along side you in your car whimpering in pain NOT being able to tell you what is wrong. My wife and I were called and told to get to the Vet ASAP as our beloved fur baby was slipping fast and though we did drive with some urgency we didn't take any chances. When we went inside we saw her laying alone on the metal table gone, we were told we missed saying goodbye by less than 3 minutes.. Just 5mph faster and she wouldn't have passed without her family there and it hurts me bad to this day. I for one respect your judgement, though motoring 100mph down Morse flashing your brights is one thing I choose to believe you were doing what you felt was necessary in the moment.

Bonny
11-06-2017, 11:20 AM
Me thinks your biggest mistake was sharing your story with many who haven't been in your shoes before..No more stressful or helpless situation than having a beloved pet along side you in your car whimpering in pain NOT being able to tell you what is wrong. My wife and I were called and told to get to the Vet ASAP as our beloved fur baby was slipping fast and though we did drive with some urgency we didn't take any chances. When we went inside we saw her laying alone on the metal table gone, we were told we missed saying goodbye by less than 3 minutes.. Just 5mph faster and she wouldn't have passed without her family there and it hurts me bad to this day. I for one respect your judgement, though motoring 100mph down Morse flashing your brights is one thing I choose to believe you were doing what you felt was necessary in the moment.
The biggest mistake was not posting it, it was the way the OP was driving that was the biggest mistake. And that 5 mph faster you talk about could cause an accident. I am definitely an animal lover, but I would be careful not to endanger the lives of anyone.

CFrance
11-06-2017, 12:01 PM
Your tale does not make much sense. If, you were turning on your flashers you were in a CAR a golf cart. Why did you not drive to the vet?

For that matter would you have stopped?

Do you not have a FRIEND who can count on you and who you can count on? Do you not have a cell phone? If, you do not, you can buy one cheep and get on one of the pay as you go plans-about .10 a minute.
Huh?

CFrance
11-06-2017, 12:04 PM
The biggest mistake was not posting it, it was the way the OP was driving that was the biggest mistake. And that 5 mph faster you talk about could cause an accident. I am definitely an animal lover, but I would be careful not to endanger the lives of anyone.
If OP had caused an accident with the injured dog in the car, it would have been much worse for the dog and everyone else than the normal time it takes to safely drive to the vet.

CWGUY
11-06-2017, 12:36 PM
On Fri our dog had an emergency situation (he recovered and is fine now) But I needed to get him to the vet ASAP. I had my flashers on and was flashing the headlights on 466A, not one person pulled over, and one that I passed, sped up to pull behind me and put his bright lights on.
Please don't assume that someone is just being an AH. Sometimes there are very legitimate reasons for trying to get someplace quickly. We can't know what is going on with someone else.
Yes, there are idiots here that will go fast just because they can, but realize that they will always be an AH.....you can get on with your life and just be happy that you are not them! Karma is alive and well, I have seen it happen more times than not.

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nututv
11-06-2017, 02:00 PM
By staying in the fast lane it is you that makes it even worse. Now you're forcing someone into the slower traffic lane... where people are expected to be in.
Once again, if you aren't passing or getting ready to turn left, get out of that lane. And seriously, 5 mph over the posted speed limit is not a hazard to anyone. Police allow a 10% variance before handing out a ticket. So, if you're in a 50, 55 isn't going to get you a ticket. And I doubt if your speedo is accurate enough to tell the difference between 4.5 and 5. Meaning 4.5 mph over in a 45 mph zone isn't going to get you a ticket either. If you were a hazard at such a minimum over don't you think they'd be writing you up?

fw102807
11-06-2017, 02:38 PM
By staying in the fast lane it is you that makes it even worse. Now you're forcing someone into the slower traffic lane... where people are expected to be in.
Once again, if you aren't passing or getting ready to turn left, get out of that lane. And seriously, 5 mph over the posted speed limit is not a hazard to anyone. Police allow a 10% variance before handing out a ticket. So, if you're in a 50, 55 isn't going to get you a ticket. And I doubt if your speedo is accurate enough to tell the difference between 4.5 and 5. Meaning 4.5 mph over in a 45 mph zone isn't going to get you a ticket either. If you were a hazard at such a minimum over don't you think they'd be writing you up?

But what if you are in the 50 going 60? If you are speeding to get somewhere are you really paying attention to this? Point here is the OP was driving recklessly.

redwitch
11-06-2017, 04:36 PM
An AH? No. Taking foolish risks? Most definitely.

I drive fast. I’ve taken several defensive driving courses. Once upon a time, I had my NASCAR license. Never would I consider driving with flashers going or flashing high beams. Just makes other drivers angry and can blind them.

A few years ago, my grandson was airlifted to Palmer Children’s Hospital after an automobile accident. No one could tell us what his actual condition was. To say that I drove to Orlando at a high rate of speed would be putting it mildly (made it to the hospital in 37 minutes). Where traffic was light, I picked my lanes and floored it. Where traffic was heavy, I changed lanes when possible but I never cut anyone off, I never tailgated, I didn’t flash lights or honk my horn. The point is there are times when we feel there is a need for speed (rightly or wrongly) but even then you need to be careful and not terrorize other drivers.

xcaligirl
11-06-2017, 05:32 PM
I have never seen so many 'entitled' people as I have seen here. They're all in a big hurry, they think they are much more important than others, they have zero amount of respect for anyone else. Too many AH's around here... so sorry to say!

Topspinmo
11-06-2017, 05:35 PM
You should of just drove like about 70% on the road= speeding, weaving in and out of lanes, not using blinkers, tailgating, passing then swerving back in the right lane and slamming on your breaks cutoff the car you just passed to turn right. Normal day anywhere in USA! Remember it's only against the law if LAW Enforcement catches you. What all the AHs around you think is pure opinion!!!:wine:

Topspinmo
11-06-2017, 05:37 PM
I have never seen so many 'entitled' people as I have seen here. They're all in a big hurry, they think they are much more important than others, they have zero amount of respect for anyone else. Too many AH's around here... so sorry to say!

And it's only going to get worse!!!!:jester:

Topspinmo
11-06-2017, 05:40 PM
By staying in the fast lane it is you that makes it even worse. Now you're forcing someone into the slower traffic lane... where people are expected to be in.
Once again, if you aren't passing or getting ready to turn left, get out of that lane. And seriously, 5 mph over the posted speed limit is not a hazard to anyone. Police allow a 10% variance before handing out a ticket. So, if you're in a 50, 55 isn't going to get you a ticket. And I doubt if your speedo is accurate enough to tell the difference between 4.5 and 5. Meaning 4.5 mph over in a 45 mph zone isn't going to get you a ticket either. If you were a hazard at such a minimum over don't you think they'd be writing you up?


Not against law to be in left lane, it is against the law to impede traffic in the left lane reguardless of speed, so if no one is behind you, you can drive in the left lane all the way to Canada.

Fredster
11-06-2017, 05:45 PM
You should of just drove like about 70% on the road= speeding, weaving in and out of lanes, not using blinkers, tailgating, passing then swerving back in the right lane and slamming on your breaks cutoff the car you just passed to turn right. Normal day anywhere in USA! Remember it's only against the law if LAW Enforcement catches you. What all the AHs around you think is pure opinion!!!:wine:

I agree there are a lot of bad drivers everywhere, but I just don’t see where your guessimate of 70% is very accurate.
And even though I have had defensive driving training I must admit to making a poor driving judgement and action on occasion!
Usualy either haste or emotion overules and negates good judgement!

ejp52
11-06-2017, 10:41 PM
Good way to lose everything you worked for,by injuring/killing someone.
Just my 2 cents.

doran
11-07-2017, 01:28 AM
With me there is no reason to assume. I am as described and I know it.

Lovey2
11-07-2017, 07:18 AM
On Fri our dog had an emergency situation (he recovered and is fine now) But I needed to get him to the vet ASAP. I had my flashers on and was flashing the headlights on 466A, not one person pulled over, and one that I passed, sped up to pull behind me and put his bright lights on.
Please don't assume that someone is just being an AH. Sometimes there are very legitimate reasons for trying to get someplace quickly. We can't know what is going on with someone else.
Yes, there are idiots here that will go fast just because they can, but realize that they will always be an AH.....you can get on with your life and just be happy that you are not them! Karma is alive and well, I have seen it happen more times than not.

I'm glad your pet is OK, and I'm sorry you got such negative reactions on here. I never read anywhere that you were driving "100" miles per hour, or even recklessly, for that matter. It's so easy for someone not in the middle of their own emergency to sit back and judge you. I once had a friend in my car who almost lost a few fingers to a saw installing tile. I drove fast, flashers on, and beeped when I had to on the way to the Emergency room. I also took no for an answer when the nurse told me to fill out a card and sit down. My friend now has his fingers and full use of his hand. I did not endanger anyone's life and was still driving safely. Also, I dare anyone out there to say they NEVER drove over the speed limit! Poppycock! You'll learn that this is not the right place to just vent. If you say blue somebody will come on here and say teal. Glad your pup is well.

graciegirl
11-07-2017, 07:34 AM
I'm glad your pet is OK, and I'm sorry you got such negative reactions on here. I never read anywhere that you were driving "100" miles per hour, or even recklessly, for that matter. It's so easy for someone not in the middle of their own emergency to sit back and judge you. I once had a friend in my car who almost lost a few fingers to a saw installing tile. I drove fast, flashers on, and beeped when I had to on the way to the Emergency room. I also took no for an answer when the nurse told me to fill out a card and sit down. My friend now has his fingers and full use of his hand. I did not endanger anyone's life and was still driving safely. Also, I dare anyone out there to say they NEVER drove over the speed limit! Poppycock! You'll learn that this is not the right place to just vent. If you say blue somebody will come on here and say teal. Glad your pup is well.

Well said!

BUT.....there ARE an awful lot of really bad and selfish drivers in these parts.

l2ridehd
11-07-2017, 08:10 AM
No where did the OP say she was doing 100 mph. No where did she say she was driving even 5 mph over the speed limit. No where did the OP say she was driving reckless. No where did she post it was on Morse. Maybe she was, but all of those things were implied by others. Flashing lights and beeping horn do not equal reckless driving. It could, but just as likely it may not.

Why does everyone here have to twist what others post? It makes this forum more useless every time that is done.

fw102807
11-07-2017, 08:15 AM
No where did the OP say she was doing 100 mph. No where did she say she was driving even 5 mph over the speed limit. No where did the OP say she was driving reckless. No where did she post it was on Morse. Maybe she was, but all of those things were implied by others. Flashing lights and beeping horn do not equal reckless driving. It could, but just as likely it may not.

Why does everyone here have to twist what others post? It makes this forum more useless every time that is done.

Flashing lights and beeping horn do most cerrtainly equal reckless driving. It is distracting and intimidating for other drivers.

Bonny
11-07-2017, 08:20 AM
Flashing lights and beeping horn do most cerrtainly equal reckless driving. It is distracting and intimidating for other drivers.
Yes, I agree. That to me is driving recklessly!!

graciegirl
11-07-2017, 08:54 AM
I think the issue not being discussed is whether it would make a difference to some if the being in extremis was a human being.

Standing back.

No. Hiding.

Marathon Man
11-07-2017, 09:01 AM
No where did the OP say she was doing 100 mph. No where did she say she was driving even 5 mph over the speed limit. No where did the OP say she was driving reckless. No where did she post it was on Morse. Maybe she was, but all of those things were implied by others. Flashing lights and beeping horn do not equal reckless driving. It could, but just as likely it may not.

Why does everyone here have to twist what others post? It makes this forum more useless every time that is done.

All true. But, that does not mean that we should assume that she was driving the speed limit. She did mentioned passing and trying to get to her destination quickly. No one is twisting anything. Some of us are simply pointing out that the actions described could easily lead to an accident. Some thing for everyone to think about.

l2ridehd
11-07-2017, 09:35 AM
All true. But, that does not mean that we should assume that she was driving the speed limit. She did mentioned passing and trying to get to her destination quickly. No one is twisting anything. Some of us are simply pointing out that the actions described could easily lead to an accident. Some thing for everyone to think about.

"No one is twisting anything? Go back and read these posts.

Going 100mph?? OP never said that. Is that not twisting the facts?

Driving on Morse? OP never said that. Is that a twisted fact?

The facts are what was stated. What you "assume" is fiction.

Fredster
11-07-2017, 10:00 AM
"No one is twisting anything? Go back and read these posts.

Going 100mph?? OP never said that. Is that not twisting the facts?

Driving on Morse? OP never said that. Is that a twisted fact?

The facts are what was stated. What you "assume" is fiction.

The OP was apparently concerned that they
might be considered an AH by other drivers.
That says a lot about how they were driving!
They felt they were entitled to drive that way,
since in their estimation they had a legitimate reason.
Trouble is, if they had caused an accident their legitimate
reason wouldn’t mean squat, and their pet would not have recieved timely care!

autumnspring
11-07-2017, 10:37 AM
Not against law to be in left lane, it is against the law to impede traffic in the left lane reguardless of speed, so if no one is behind you, you can drive in the left lane all the way to Canada.

READ the drivers regulations.

l2ridehd
11-07-2017, 10:37 AM
The OP was apparently concerned that they
might be considered an AH by other drivers.
That says a lot about how they were driving! Assumption
They felt they were entitled to drive that way, Assumption
since in their estimation they had a legitimate reason.
Trouble is, if they had caused an accident their legitimate
reason wouldn’t mean squat, and their pet would not have recieved timely care! Assumption

Lovey2
11-07-2017, 10:52 AM
Well said!

BUT.....there ARE an awful lot of really bad and selfish drivers in these parts.

Absolutely! But that being said ...All I believe she was saying was don't always assume the worst. Sometimes you don't have the whole picture. This is true all day, in every way. That cashier not smiling, may have just lost a parent, say Hi anyway. The "moody" bank teller , may be working her last week due to a lay off. Smile and say Hi anyway. Someday, it might be you frowning or not looking when you cross in the parking lot, and somebody will just wave or smile and let it go. They don't know you're thinking about your next chemo treatment and not paying attention. Lighten up...I believe her because she said it was so. She was not being an AH. End of story...for me.

Topspinmo
11-07-2017, 11:08 AM
READ the drivers regulations.


I did, Most don't read the following para. I also posted it several times and highlighted it for those that just read the first para. and not the buts.

Topspinmo
11-07-2017, 11:12 AM
I agree there are a lot of bad drivers everywhere, but I just don’t see where your guessimate of 70% is very accurate.
And even though I have had defensive driving training I must admit to making a poor driving judgement and action on occasion!
Usualy either haste or emotion overules and negates good judgement!

Ahhhh, I was going to say 90%, but thought that was little high!!! drive 35 down MB or BV and see how many cars pass you. I admit I probably one of them keeping up with traffic.

nututv
11-07-2017, 12:02 PM
Absolutely! But that being said ...All I believe she was saying was don't always assume the worst. Sometimes you don't have the whole picture. This is true all day, in every way. That cashier not smiling, may have just lost a parent, say Hi anyway. The "moody" bank teller , may be working her last week due to a lay off. Smile and say Hi anyway. Someday, it might be you frowning or not looking when you cross in the parking lot, and somebody will just wave or smile and let it go. They don't know you're thinking about your next chemo treatment and not paying attention. Lighten up...I believe her because she said it was so. She was not being an AH. End of story...for me.

Good heavens, an understanding soul. Thank for your well written, and understanding post.

Kazmi
11-07-2017, 09:24 PM
Absolutely! But that being said ...All I believe she was saying was don't always assume the worst. Sometimes you don't have the whole picture. This is true all day, in every way. That cashier not smiling, may have just lost a parent, say Hi anyway. The "moody" bank teller , may be working her last week due to a lay off. Smile and say Hi anyway. Someday, it might be you frowning or not looking when you cross in the parking lot, and somebody will just wave or smile and let it go. They don't know you're thinking about your next chemo treatment and not paying attention. Lighten up...I believe her because she said it was so. She was not being an AH. End of story...for me.

for me too :BigApplause: agreed 100%

Bonny
11-08-2017, 07:52 AM
Absolutely! But that being said ...All I believe she was saying was don't always assume the worst. Sometimes you don't have the whole picture. This is true all day, in every way. That cashier not smiling, may have just lost a parent, say Hi anyway. The "moody" bank teller , may be working her last week due to a lay off. Smile and say Hi anyway. Someday, it might be you frowning or not looking when you cross in the parking lot, and somebody will just wave or smile and let it go. They don't know you're thinking about your next chemo treatment and not paying attention. Lighten up...I believe her because she said it was so. She was not being an AH. End of story...for me.
I like your post, however, we aren't talking about walking into a bank or a grocery store. This is about a car on the road acting in a way that could cause an accident resulting in injury.

fred53
11-08-2017, 08:10 AM
Glad your dog is okay...not real excited that you think you can turn all your lights on and pretend you're an ambulance....anyone that does that is beyond naive and no you do not have the right to do so....or speed for that reason.