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Guest
10-16-2009, 03:09 PM
Where do they get them all.....I did not see it but as I read it, I was struck by the continuation of the radical folks in this administration but the President is immune for some unknown reason...

"Glenn Beck showed an absolutely damning video of Anita Dunn on his show yesterday. As everyone knows, she is the White House communications director who has declared war on Fox News. The video shows Dunn giving a speech in which she highlights the two most important political philosophers shaping her outlook on politics: Mao Zedong and Mother Teresa. The first “political philosopher” Dunn is praising was a tyrannical dictator who imprisoned, tortured, and killed millions of his own people. In fact, it is estimated that the Chinese Communists — led, inspired, and controlled by Mao — have killed 65 million Chinese citizens since 1949 through the Great Leap Forward, the Cultural Revolution, and the Gulag system of slave-labor prisons (the “Laogai” system) that Mao implemented."

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MzI0Mjc1NGNiNmZiNGExMGRjYjQ2M2YzMzczYjE3N2U=

She is also not simply a peripheral person to the President as I did some research I found this from when she was announced to take this job, albeit temporarily...

"Anita Dunn, a veteran Democratic strategist and top adviser on Barack Obama’s presidential campaign, will take over as White House communications director at least temporarily, according to sources familiar with the move."

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0409/21959.html

The beat goes on with this administration...they do not seem to have a need to be open and honest, and if they say they have no radical leaning, then they dont !!!

Guest
10-16-2009, 07:22 PM
It's absolutely frightening. To say this crowd is dangerous to America is an understatement. We are under assault.

Guest
10-16-2009, 08:11 PM
may we have your reaction to what is being presented.
The total and complete absence of commentary on these types of subjects is some what perplexing.

Non Obama supporters feel free to offer a view/perspective.

btk

Guest
10-16-2009, 08:21 PM
It's the same with the "Safe School" Czar. He appears to be a supporter of NAMBLA as he wrote the forward in a book by the founder I believe it was.

"President Obama's "safe schools czar" is a former schoolteacher who has advocated promoting homosexuality in schools, written about his past drug abuse, expressed his contempt for religion and detailed an incident in which he did not report an underage student who told him he was having sex with older men."

It is almost unbelievable that anyone would support this President and his chosen Czars that now run our country.

Guest
10-17-2009, 05:16 PM
may we have your reaction to what is being presented.
The total and complete absence of commentary on these types of subjects is some what perplexing.

Non Obama supporters feel free to offer a view/perspective.

btk

I think Mother Teresa is someone we should all look up to.....

Guest
10-17-2009, 05:30 PM
I think Mother Teresa is someone we should all look up to.....


Not unexpected for you COLOGAL to ignore the radical element in this administration !!!

Cannot recall in my lifetime such folks being exposed in just a short 9 months HOWEVER.....still ok with folks like you !

Guest
10-17-2009, 06:10 PM
I think Mother Teresa is someone we should all look up to.....
I suspect that we have a better chance of getting an honest statement from Mother Teresa than anyone in this administration.

Guest
10-17-2009, 11:55 PM
Not unexpected for you COLOGAL to ignore the radical element in this administration !!!

Cannot recall in my lifetime such folks being exposed in just a short 9 months HOWEVER.....still ok with folks like you !

Bucco....exactly how is this supposed to affect the country? Even Newt Gingrich has quote Chairman Mao. Glen Beck seems to have a staff whose only job is to pour over ages old video...speechs etc.

Guest
10-18-2009, 08:03 AM
Bucco....exactly how is this supposed to affect the country? Even Newt Gingrich has quote Chairman Mao. Glen Beck seems to have a staff whose only job is to pour over ages old video...speechs etc.

COLOGAL...of course this person is not going to affect the country and I cant imagine why you would even say something like that.

My point is, in every administration there are appointments that you can disagree with, BUT I HAVE NEVER seen such a large amount of what is easily called RADICAL people so close to a President !

Of course, still reeling over your remark...that one person does nothing to the country however having our President surrounded by folks with radical views is not very comfortable !

Now, you may not feel these people, and you do know it is not JUST THIS ONE, have the right stuff to advise our President...I respectfully disagree !

Guest
10-18-2009, 08:52 AM
I once heard someone say "Liberalism is the most gutless choice you can make, you don't really have to take a stand for anything."

I hear a lot of that these days from folks. It absolutely does not matter what BO does. He's their guy and it's A-OK. Even if they know deep down it's bad they will somehow rationalize it away.

Czars don't matter anyway, BO is in control of things, it will all be ok. As long as it sounds good and makes you feel good it must be ok.

It's no different with the health care debate. Everyone should have insurance. That's how Liberals think. It sounds really good and makes them feel really good. Nothing else matters and the consequences be damned. It's the intention that matters.

Guest
10-18-2009, 09:07 AM
I once heard someone say "Liberalism is the most gutless choice you can make, you don't really have to take a stand for anything."

I hear a lot of that these days from folks. It absolutely does not matter what BO does. He's their guy and it's A-OK. Even if they know deep down it's bad they will somehow rationalize it away.

Czars don't matter anyway, BO is in control of things, it will all be ok. As long as it sounds good and makes you feel good it must be ok.

It's no different with the health care debate. Everyone should have insurance. That's how Liberals think. It sounds really good and makes them feel really good. Nothing else matters and the consequences be damned. It's the intention that matters.

Do you realize that GW Bush had more CZAR's than Obama....probably not because Fox Noise failed to tell you that.

Guest
10-18-2009, 09:42 AM
So predictable, that's my point exactly. Doesn't matter who the current Czars are, what they believe or where they came from. GW had a few more and that's all that matters.

If BO the anointed one appointed them they must be ok. After all, he only has the best intentions for us all.


"Kevin Jennings, the radical homosexual activist who founded one of the biggest organizations in the nation to promote "gay" activities in public schools, needs to "come clean," according to the Washington Times.

"A teacher was told by a 15-year-old high school sophomore that he was having homosexual sex with an 'older man.' At the very least, statutory rape occurred. Fox News reported that the teacher violated a state law requiring that he report the abuse. That former teacher, Kevin Jennings, is President Obama's 'safe school czar.' ... Clearly, the process for vetting White House employees has broken down," the Times editorial board said.

"In this one case in which Mr. Jennings had a real chance to protect a young boy from a sexual predator, he not only failed to do what the law required but actually encouraged the relationship."


Anyone here ok with our new "Safe School Czar"

Cologal?

Guest
10-18-2009, 01:15 PM
Fox News pointed out that Bush had as many advisors as Obama.

They also pointed out that they were not called Csars because they were Capitalists not Socialists.

Guest
10-18-2009, 05:26 PM
So predictable, that's my point exactly. Doesn't matter who the current Czars are, what they believe or where they came from. GW had a few more and that's all that matters.

If BO the anointed one appointed them they must be ok. After all, he only has the best intentions for us all.





Anyone here ok with our new "Safe School Czar"

Cologal?

First of all we have heard at length about Obama appointing all of these czar and how bad that was...then only to find out that the previous administration appointed more. But of course that doesn't matter because to point that out is Bush bashing and clearly no one around here bashes the current administration.

Let me think....is that the one that Hannity has the hots for?

So why is this guy so bad.......

He is gay...could that be the problem? He was a member of ACT UP a group whose purpose it was to call attention to the AIDS crisis when the Regan administration had their head in the sand. I would recommend you read the book "And the Band Played On". The people you listen to would have us believe that ACT UP promotes the radical homosexual agenda...I wish just once someone would explain that Bull**** to me. Or maybe its because he did drugs. Nah that can't be it because ole Rushie did drugs and Bushie was a drunk look at them now....Maybe its because he shouldn't be in this position maybe its the wrong position kinda like Gail Norton being Secretary of the Interior. Having Norton in that position was like picking a German Shepard to the Secretary of Cats.

Clearly Hannity is always right.....and he really isn't worried about Beck pushing him out of his prime time spot on Fox.

Guest
10-18-2009, 05:30 PM
Fox News pointed out that Bush had as many advisor's as Obama.

They also pointed out that they were not called Czars because they were Capitalists not Socialists.

I really don't think that the real Czars were Socialists either...Go back and check your history the Russian Czar were royalty overthrown by the Communists.

Once again WRONG. No socialists here.

Guest
10-18-2009, 06:23 PM
Or maybe because he supports under age boys having relationships with adult men. Safe School Czar? I guess that makes you feel safe...

Guest
10-18-2009, 06:42 PM
Or maybe because he supports under age boys having relationships with adult men. Safe School Czar? I guess that makes you feel safe...

I believe the young man was 16 in a state where 16 is legally an adult.

Nothing wrong so far. No more safer than we felt with Dick Cheney as VP.

Guest
10-18-2009, 06:55 PM
Now your just baiting me. I know you don't really believe that.

Guest
10-18-2009, 07:43 PM
Now your just baiting me. I know you don't really believe that.

You have got to be kidding.....

Guest
10-18-2009, 07:47 PM
You have got to be kidding.....


WOW....it is all about Bush or Fox news with you...you have officially become whatever you become when that is all that counts anymore...Bush and Fox news !!!

You answer to most things is Bush or Fox !

You do know that many on here who oppose President Obama's social program also opposed much of what Bush did and do not watch Fox news !

Of course you do but you dont care...it had to be Bush's fault or Fox distorted it !

PS.....I am not an avid tv watcher of any of the networks but feel secure in asking you to cite ONE....JUST ONE example where Fox has distorted a news story ? Not from the commentators like Olbmerman, Maddox, Riley, etc, but an actual news story ! Thanks

Guest
10-18-2009, 08:10 PM
WOW....it is all about Bush or Fox news with you...you have officially become whatever you become when that is all that counts anymore...Bush and Fox news !!!

You answer to most things is Bush or Fox !

You do know that many on here who oppose President Obama's social program also opposed much of what Bush did and do not watch Fox news !

Of course you do but you dont care...it had to be Bush's fault or Fox distorted it !

PS.....I am not an avid tv watcher of any of the networks but feel secure in asking you to cite ONE....JUST ONE example where Fox has distorted a news story ? Not from the commentators like Olbmerman, Maddox, Riley, etc, but an actual news story ! Thanks

Anyone who actually believes Bucco's comments about "not watching Fox" or not supporting Bush (at least for his first 6 years) might be interested in buying the beautiful Brooklyn Bridge they are building over the 9th hole at Hemingway! Beck, Rush, FOX, Hannity, Rove Cheney- it's all the same crap, different face & voice. Never offer anything positive and distort all that you diagree with t make it seem evil.

Unfortunately, when you have idiots running around with teabags covering their Becker distortuing everythign and anything into some paranoid cause (birth certificates, wearing the flag, Kenyan connection, etc) the stuff that may really have cause to be examined becomes all that less valid.

Like crying Wolf- except you guys use the FOX.

Guest
10-18-2009, 08:26 PM
Anyone who actually believes Bucco's comments about "not watching Fox" or not supporting Bush (at least for his first 6 years) might be interested in buying the beautiful Brooklyn Bridge they are building over the 9th hole at Hemingway! Beck, Rush, FOX, Hannity, Rove Cheney- it's all the same crap, different face & voice. Never offer anything positive and distort all that you diagree with t make it seem evil.

Unfortunately, when you have idiots running around with teabags covering their Becker distortuing everythign and anything into some paranoid cause (birth certificates, wearing the flag, Kenyan connection, etc) the stuff that may really have cause to be examined becomes all that less valid.

Like crying Wolf- except you guys use the FOX.

Besides calling me a liar, you prove my point with your hate filled rant !

I was very specific about NEWS and made it very clear that I did not include those commentators like Olberman, Maddow, etc, but you choose to ignore that with your venom.

You know I really think those that said you have a problem are right on target...you are absolutely filled with nothing but venom which you spew without any thinking whatsoever.

I dont lie and thankfully am not filled with the same kind of hate that you are.

You REALLY do have a problem and need help !

Guest
10-18-2009, 08:59 PM
WOW....it is all about Bush or Fox news with you...you have officially become whatever you become when that is all that counts anymore...Bush and Fox news !!!

You answer to most things is Bush or Fox !

You do know that many on here who oppose President Obama's social program also opposed much of what Bush did and do not watch Fox news !

Of course you do but you dont care...it had to be Bush's fault or Fox distorted it !

PS.....I am not an avid tv watcher of any of the networks but feel secure in asking you to cite ONE....JUST ONE example where Fox has distorted a news story ? Not from the commentators like Olbmerman, Maddox, Riley, etc, but an actual news story ! Thanks


Where did the story come from....Fox Noise. End of that story and I do watch from time to time until I can't stand it anymore. Please show me where I said Fox Noise distorted the story? Its not there as usual you distort and deflect. I was asked to answer a question regarding an Obama "CZAR" the story was from Fox Noise....I answered.

Guest
10-18-2009, 09:03 PM
Besides calling me a liar, you prove my point with your hate filled rant !

I was very specific about NEWS and made it very clear that I did not include those commentators like Olberman, Maddow, etc, but you choose to ignore that with your venom.

You know I really think those that said you have a problem are right on target...you are absolutely filled with nothing but venom which you spew without any thinking whatsoever.

I dont lie and thankfully am not filled with the same kind of hate that you are.

You REALLY do have a problem and need help !

This post is totally unbelievable it is always us spewing the venon...ranting and raving....bashing Bush/Cheney/Palin whatever.

In psychological terms my PhD friend would call it projection.

Guest
10-18-2009, 11:07 PM
I believe the young man was 16 in a state where 16 is legally an adult.

Nothing wrong so far. No more safer than we felt with Dick Cheney as VP.

At the age of consent but not an adult. Contributing to the delinquency of a minor is still a crime.

Yoda

Guest
10-18-2009, 11:24 PM
may we have your reaction to what is being presented.
The total and complete absence of commentary on these types of subjects is some what perplexing.

Non Obama supporters feel free to offer a view/perspective.

btk

I once questioned if some members of the Obama administration could be considered "Domestic Enemies" of the U.S. Constitution. I was told that I was a bit over the top.

Should I have changed my mind because of anything that has happened this month?

Yoda

PS The Czars don't take an oath to protect and defend the Constitution.

Guest
10-19-2009, 07:21 AM
where did the story come from....fox noise. End of that story and i do watch from time to time until i can't stand it anymore. Please show me where i said fox noise distorted the story? Its not there as usual you distort and deflect. I was asked to answer a question regarding an obama "czar" the story was from fox noise....i answered.

is the story true ??

Guest
10-19-2009, 07:24 AM
This post is totally unbelievable it is always us spewing the venon...ranting and raving....bashing Bush/Cheney/Palin whatever.

In psychological terms my PhD friend would call it projection.

When a debate on whatever issue can progress without the bringing up of Bush or Fox we will have made a giant step forward !!! I do not anticipate that you can do that but it will be progress !!!

Guest
10-19-2009, 08:08 AM
I once questioned if some members of the Obama administration could be considered "Domestic Enemies" of the U.S. Constitution. I was told that I was a bit over the top.

Should I have changed my mind because of anything that has happened this month?

Yoda

PS The Czars don't take an oath to protect and defend the Constitution.


Did the Bush Czar's take the oath?

Guest
10-19-2009, 08:12 AM
When a debate on whatever issue can progress without the bringing up of Bush or Fox we will have made a giant step forward !!! I do not anticipate that you can do that but it will be progress !!!

Bucco here are the opening linings of your post:

Where do they get them all.....I did not see it but as I read it, I was struck by the continuation of the radical folks in this administration but the President is immune for some unknown reason...

"Glenn Beck showed an absolutely damning video of Anita Dunn on his show yesterday. As everyone knows, she is the White House communications director who has declared war on Fox News. The video shows Dunn giving a speech in which she highlights the two most important political philosophers shaping her outlook on politics: Mao Zedong and Mother Teresa.

So you brought up Fox Noise and the Obama Administration...but we have to respond without saying anything about Fox or the Bush administration.

Sure seems far to me.....NOT You guys always like a stacked deck

Guest
10-19-2009, 08:21 AM
is the story true ??

Bucco you said I distorted the Fox Noise story....I asked you to show me where, in my post, I did. Of course you just ignored that put just jumping to "Is the story true". I have to respond with What Story?

Did Anita Dunn give a statement about Mao and Mother Teresa. Yes that is true. However, did Glenn Beck include the rest of story ....what part of their philosophy she admired? Nope why include that part cause its boring.

Did the Safe School Czar consul an of legal age gay boy to protect himself if having sex during the AIDS crisis? Admittedly yes that is true. But Hannity and I watched this live so I know what I saw and what was said....Hannity kept referring to the boy as 15 not 16 which in that state is a big deal.

So again I challenge you to show me the distortation.....I'm looking forward to it.

Guest
10-19-2009, 08:41 AM
Bucco you said I distorted the Fox Noise story....I asked you to show me where, in my post, I did. Of course you just ignored that put just jumping to "Is the story true". I have to respond with What Story?

Did Anita Dunn give a statement about Mao and Mother Teresa. Yes that is true. However, did Glenn Beck include the rest of story ....what part of their philosophy she admired? Nope why include that part cause its boring.

Did the Safe School Czar consul an of legal age gay boy to protect himself if having sex during the AIDS crisis? Admittedly yes that is true. But Hannity and I watched this live so I know what I saw and what was said....Hannity kept referring to the boy as 15 not 16 which in that state is a big deal.

So again I challenge you to show me the distortation.....I'm looking forward to it.

This is a futile conversation !

You ROUTINELY refer to the Fox Network as fox noise...I mean ROUTINELY as if they were not the most watched cable network news.

This is not about defending Fox, as they are doing quite well but the constant denial of what is and has been happening and the constant use of Bush and Fox as some sort of excuse, reason or whatever it is.

The administration has had and has a number of folks associated with them either as czars or advisors or position holders who have had much to say in defense of extremeism and radical views. THAT is the subject...not Fox...not Bush.

You seem to have some sort of fixation with the Fox celebrities which is fine but it has nothing to do with facts. I seldom link to or use as a source ANY of the cable channels. I also have watched Olberman and Maddow in the evening on MSNBC and would venture a guess (IF I CARED) that their hate mongering makes Fox pale but Fox is the number one thus all the "noise" from you and others. I can only imagine if the White House took the time during the Bush adminsitration to attack MSNBC on what NON NEWS commentators had to say what the reaction might have been. They not only attacked administration policies but attacked on a personal level directly to the President AND the first lady.

I will be glad to post here any number of sources other than Fox who have and are following the story of the radical element in this administration if you wish but I am sure you will discount that for some reason.

Look, I understand you are a party lady (not the wild one..the Democratic one
) and I also understand you will deny this with talk of how you voted for Republicans, but you give nothing here but the party line...NOTHING up to and including your derisive comments about a news network !

Guest
10-19-2009, 08:53 AM
Where in our constitution does Obama get the idea that it is okay for a President to attack the freedom of speech granted to all broadcast Networks?

Guest
10-19-2009, 01:46 PM
Q: What do you think about the new government health care program?

A: I hate Bush and Fox News are liars.

Q: What do you think of the proposed Medicare cuts?

A: Fox News are liars and I hate Bush.

Q: What should we do about unemployment?

A: Dick Cheney is the Devil.

Q: Are you worried about the solvency of Social Security?

A: Sarah Palin is the Devil

Q: Do you like the qualifications of our new Czars

A: Bush is the Devil.

Q: How do feel about being trillions in debt?

A: It’s Bush’s fault.

Q: Are you worried about our National Security?

A: If it wasn’t for Bush we’ll all be safe now and 9/11 would have never happened. It was all his fault.

Q: Can you explain what specific things you like about Obama’s economic policies?

A: Bush was the worst President in history.

Guest
10-19-2009, 02:13 PM
This is a futile conversation !

You ROUTINELY refer to the Fox Network as fox noise...I mean ROUTINELY as if they were not the most watched cable network news.

This is not about defending Fox, as they are doing quite well but the constant denial of what is and has been happening and the constant use of Bush and Fox as some sort of excuse, reason or whatever it is.

The administration has had and has a number of folks associated with them either as czars or advisor's or position holders who have had much to say in defense of extremism and radical views. THAT is the subject...not Fox...not Bush.

You seem to have some sort of fixation with the Fox celebrities which is fine but it has nothing to do with facts. I seldom link to or use as a source ANY of the cable channels. I also have watched Olberman and Maddow in the evening on MSNBC and would venture a guess (IF I CARED) that their hate mongering makes Fox pale but Fox is the number one thus all the "noise" from you and others. I can only imagine if the White House took the time during the Bush administration to attack MSNBC on what NON NEWS commentators had to say what the reaction might have been. They not only attacked administration policies but attacked on a personal level directly to the President AND the first lady.

I will be glad to post here any number of sources other than Fox who have and are following the story of the radical element in this administration if you wish but I am sure you will discount that for some reason.

Look, I understand you are a party lady (not the wild one..the Democratic one
) and I also understand you will deny this with talk of how you voted for Republicans, but you give nothing here but the party line...NOTHING up to and including your derisive comments about a news network !

You are right...this is a ridiculous conversation....MSNBC personally attacks the Bush Administration....but Hannity, O'Reilly and Beck are pure as the driven snow. I don't see Fox Noise as a NEWS channel.

So I am a totally party person and you just a objective observer.

Yeah right.

Guest
10-19-2009, 02:30 PM
You are right...this is a ridiculous conversation....MSNBC personally attacks the Bush Administration....but Hannity, O'Reilly and Beck are pure as the driven snow. I don't see Fox Noise as a NEWS channel.

So I am a totally party person and you just a objective observer.

Yeah right.

You will need to explain how you say that anyone on here, I know it was not me, said anything to the effect about Hannity, O'Reilly or Beck...PLEASE EXPLAIN WHERE THAT CAME FROM.

This White House has declared war on Fox News....PLEASE explain had the Bush administration taken the same tack with MSNBC ??????

You are speaking of commentators who are NOT REPORTING NEWS...got it...NOT REPORTING NEWS. That is why nobody went after the Olbermans, Maddow's etc. They do not report news.

Now the White House will decide open commentary...if it is opposed to what they say then they come after you. Nice country when that is the rule isnt it ?

The WHITE HOUSE is doing this.....the President of the United States has approved and sanctioned a war on a network..think about that for just a second !

PS....AND I did not mention MSNBC generally I mentioned the commentators by name. And NO PRESIDENT DECLARED WAR ON THEM BECAUSE THEY DIDNT AGREE WITH WHAT THEY SAID. WE NOW HAVE A PRESIDENT WHO WILL OPENLY DECLARE WAR ON YOU IF YOU DONT AGREE !

Guest
10-19-2009, 03:41 PM
If you actually watched or listened to Hannity and O'Reilly you'd know they were both pretty critical of Bush on numerous issues. The budget and immigration just to name two.

Guest
10-19-2009, 04:17 PM
If you actually watched or listened to Hannity and O'Reilly you'd know they were both pretty critical of Bush on numerous issues. The budget and immigration just to name two.


I am positive that COLOGAL does not understand.....

The President of the United States has approved a war on a major network because they disagree with him !!!

It does not matter WHO said what...does not matter if you agree or disagree....we have a sitting President outright declaring war on a network and having his chief of staff and his chief political advisor to visit talk shows to throw bombs !!!

Guest
10-19-2009, 06:25 PM
Does that surprise you?

They are declaring war against anything and anyone who does not support their agenda. Free speech, the constitution, etc, none of that matters anymore.

It's called tyranny. Something our founding fathers warned against.

I can think of a few who gladly and willingly subjugate themselves to it.

Guest
10-19-2009, 10:40 PM
Q: What do you think about the new government health care program?

A: I hate Bush and Fox News are liars.

Q: What do you think of the proposed Medicare cuts?

A: Fox News are liars and I hate Bush.

Q: What should we do about unemployment?

A: Dick Cheney is the Devil.

Q: Are you worried about the solvency of Social Security?

A: Sarah Palin is the Devil

Q: Do you like the qualifications of our new Czars

A: Bush is the Devil.

Q: How do feel about being trillions in debt?

A: It’s Bush’s fault.

Q: Are you worried about our National Security?

A: If it wasn’t for Bush we’ll all be safe now and 9/11 would have never happened. It was all his fault.

Q: Can you explain what specific things you like about Obama’s economic policies?

A: Bush was the worst President in history.

The answer is, You are talking to Cologirl


Yoda

Guest
10-20-2009, 02:00 PM
Not specifically. Mostly libs in general.

Guest
10-20-2009, 02:23 PM
czars, advisers and supporters attitude:

http://www.suntimes.com/news/huntley/1834209,CST-EDT-HUNT20.article

My concern is they are not in the majority in this country.....yes they won the election....they are not in the majority....and they are continuing to roll over issues as we have all mentioned at one time or another that are tearing down the very fabric of this country.

I have always thought (maybe hopefully) that regardless of party, sooner or later if the common good is being degraded, eventually a ground swell of we the people (party insensitive) will rise and deal with it.

It seems like the only way to overcome their ability to restate, interpret, paint over, ignore, fabricate, lie to make their point or position is the voting booth. It starts with 2010 and continue to and including the 2012 general election.

I think I have mentioned it in previous posts....this attitude of the Dems is not limited to this forum.....I find it in ANY Dem discussion.

I kike the tag "whiners" it fits so well. As my kids used to tease one another when one or the other was whining......somebody call the wahmbulance for the whinny baby!!!!!!!

btk

Guest
10-20-2009, 07:20 PM
The answer is, You are talking to Cologirl


Yoda

I don't think anyone should be making personal comments about Cologirl. As everyone here knows, I don't agree with her on most any issue, but, I've come to respect her as being an educated thinker and sincere in her beliefs. Opinions here should remain to the subject, not the person.

Guest
10-20-2009, 10:16 PM
I don't think anyone should be making personal comments about Cologirl. As everyone here knows, I don't agree with her on most any issue, but, I've come to respect her as being an educated thinker and sincere in her beliefs. Opinions here should remain to the subject, not the person.

My post was not about Cologirl it was about Declassen.

Yoda

Guest
10-21-2009, 01:55 PM
You will need to explain how you say that anyone on here, I know it was not me, said anything to the effect about Hannity, O'Reilly or Beck...PLEASE EXPLAIN WHERE THAT CAME FROM.

This White House has declared war on Fox News....PLEASE explain had the Bush administration taken the same tack with MSNBC ??????

You are speaking of commentators who are NOT REPORTING NEWS...got it...NOT REPORTING NEWS. That is why nobody went after the Olbermans, Maddow's etc. They do not report news.

Now the White House will decide open commentary...if it is opposed to what they say then they come after you. Nice country when that is the rule isnt it ?

The WHITE HOUSE is doing this.....the President of the United States has approved and sanctioned a war on a network..think about that for just a second !

PS....AND I did not mention MSNBC generally I mentioned the commentators by name. And NO PRESIDENT DECLARED WAR ON THEM BECAUSE THEY DIDNT AGREE WITH WHAT THEY SAID. WE NOW HAVE A PRESIDENT WHO WILL OPENLY DECLARE WAR ON YOU IF YOU DONT AGREE !

Bucco never answered cologal's question about he context of Beck and Hannity- never does, only diverts to something personal.

George W. Bush blackballed Helen Thomas, The New York Times (He called them "little ****s" (oops, the mic was on!), The Washington Post and the so-called "mainstream media"- don't hear you crowing about objectivity there.

Their press agent Ari Fleischer is still known for his arrogance in deceiving the mainstream press. Administration officials were routinely present on FOX programs, but not other news programs that might actually require them to give an answer. Condi Rice was famous for her comment on Air Force 1saying about FOX, "I love those guys."

To top it off, FOX was exposed during the Bush administration for pre-interviewing its "friends", that is working out the questions and answers before an on-air interview.

FOX, through the Beckerheads and its other agents is oopenly supporting the ********* movement, so much so that a FOX news director was caught on tape on the September 12th event in DC as whipping up the crowd with her arms - like, come on make some noise.

Richard Nixon & Spiro Agnew mercilessly attacked the press when coverage was not favorable

So please, Bucco, don't insult our intelligence by feigning "outrage" that the Obama Administration won't put lipstick on the pig.

It boils down to this:

All administrations try to get their messsage out as positively and/or as unfilitered as possible.

FOX noise does not try to report the news, it "comments" from a right-wing perspective on the news, and tries to call it news.

Did you catch Glen Beck the other night with a lengthy "expose" of how "Hollywood" was going Maoist by planning a week of show themes emphasizing- OH MY GOD- Volunteerism!! He whined on interminably about how encouraging volunteering was akin to Obama being chairman Mao, and how its all a conspiracy to get the ********** into secret detention camps.

Bucco your paranoia and hate blind you to anything and everything that isn't conspiracy or teabag worthy. Let's go from there &things will stay much clearer for everyone.

Guest
10-21-2009, 02:15 PM
YOU SPEAK 21 LINES OF HATE AND FINISH IT OFF BY SAYING BUCCO is full of hate.

How can you justify such conduct?

Guest
10-21-2009, 03:25 PM
Bucco never answered cologal's question about he context of Beck and Hannity- never does, only diverts to something personal.

George W. Bush blackballed Helen Thomas, The New York Times (He called them "little ****s" (oops, the mic was on!), The Washington Post and the so-called "mainstream media"- don't hear you crowing about objectivity there.

Their press agent Ari Fleischer is still known for his arrogance in deceiving the mainstream press. Administration officials were routinely present on FOX programs, but not other news programs that might actually require them to give an answer. Condi Rice was famous for her comment on Air Force 1saying about FOX, "I love those guys."

To top it off, FOX was exposed during the Bush administration for pre-interviewing its "friends", that is working out the questions and answers before an on-air interview.

FOX, through the Beckerheads and its other agents is oopenly supporting the ********* movement, so much so that a FOX news director was caught on tape on the September 12th event in DC as whipping up the crowd with her arms - like, come on make some noise.

Richard Nixon & Spiro Agnew mercilessly attacked the press when coverage was not favorable

So please, Bucco, don't insult our intelligence by feigning "outrage" that the Obama Administration won't put lipstick on the pig.

It boils down to this:

All administrations try to get their messsage out as positively and/or as unfilitered as possible.

FOX noise does not try to report the news, it "comments" from a right-wing perspective on the news, and tries to call it news.

Did you catch Glen Beck the other night with a lengthy "expose" of how "Hollywood" was going Maoist by planning a week of show themes emphasizing- OH MY GOD- Volunteerism!! He whined on interminably about how encouraging volunteering was akin to Obama being chairman Mao, and how its all a conspiracy to get the ********** into secret detention camps.

Bucco your paranoia and hate blind you to anything and everything that isn't conspiracy or teabag worthy. Let's go from there &things will stay much clearer for everyone.


You are so out of whack that I think it may be impossible for you to see clearly !

I DO NOT DEFEND HANNITY, OREILLY OR ANY COMMENTATORS IN ANY WAY !

I ALSO DO NOT CRITICISE OLBERMAN, MADDOW AND THOSE ON THE OTHER NETWORKS THAT SPEW THE LEFT WING DOCTRINE IN THE SAME MANNER.

THOSE ARE NOT ISSUES IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM.

THE ISSUE IS THIS....

A SITTING PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES HAS DECLARED WAR ON A NETWORK !!! I would find that non acceptable if he attacked any network, website, newspaper, radio/tv station or any agency of any kind.

The issue is that...simple......again....A SITTING PRESIDENT HAS OPENLY DECLARED WAR ON A NETWORK.

Now if that does not bother you, you are for sure lost ! It has nothing to do with what is broadcast on that network or what that network says !

Guest
10-26-2009, 04:02 PM
I suspect that we have a better chance of getting an honest statement from Mother Teresa than anyone in this administration.

Quite frankly, given the way they ran their "hospitals", I'm cannot find much sorrow in my heart now for the fact that she is no longer with us.

When her organization was forced to open it's books because of new laws in France, they packed up and left.

The conditions of their "hospitals"? Yeah, they advertise "care" for the sick and sufferring - when Mother Theresa's own words spoke of how she encouraged sufferring because it brought people "closer to Jesus and the sufferring he did for us".

They actually BANNED families from visiting sick relatives.

I wish I had a more polite way to put things. From what I've seen, it's another corrupt organization hiding behind religion. It may not have started out that way - I would't know, I wasn't there. But I know what I've read over the past several years.