Kardashian School of Journalism

[rubicon]

We are all aware of the continuing drop in the quality of America's educational systems. so it is not a surprise that this reduction in quality includes journalism. But necessity is the mother of invention. with the advent of 24/7 news came the need for many more "so called journalist"

However the downside of all of this is that the definition of worthy news turns out to be "non-events" Journalists publishes these non events as news events, headlines, etc. With 24/7 news to fill ingenuity is required in stringing out the story to fill airtime.

As an example. some celebrity tweets. The news people immediately label it as inappropriate or an epiphany depending on their view of the celebrity.

The story would die there but for the follow up such as Why didn't the celebrity apologize?

He did apologize but was it quick enough?

he shouldn't have apologized?

What does x have to say about the celebrity's tweet?

And was celerity y offended ?

And did director z condemn then tweet?

Its the same with all of the sexual harassment charges. We have billions of people in the world engaged in sex and dominating the news are allegations of......

What happened to issues of substance taxes, foreign policy, economy

It would seem too many of these so called journalist graduated from the Kardashian School of Journalism

We all ought to be appalled because this once great nation is descending quickly into mediocrity and of its own choosing

Personal Best Regards:

[Rockyrd]

We are all aware of the continuing drop in the quality of America's educational systems. so it is not a surprise that this reduction in quality includes journalism. But necessity is the mother of invention. with the advent of 24/7 news came the need for many more "so called journalist"

However the downside of all of this is that the definition of worthy news turns out to be "non-events" Journalists publishes these non events as news events, headlines, etc. With 24/7 news to fill ingenuity is required in stringing out the story to fill airtime.

As an example. some celebrity tweets. The news people immediately label it as inappropriate or an epiphany depending on their view of the celebrity.

The story would die there but for the follow up such as Why didn't the celebrity apologize?

He did apologize but was it quick enough?

he shouldn't have apologized?

What does x have to say about the celebrity's tweet?

And was celerity y offended ?

And did director z condemn then tweet?

Its the same with all of the sexual harassment charges. We have billions of people in the world engaged in sex and dominating the news are allegations of......

What happened to issues of substance taxes, foreign policy, economy

It would seem too many of these so called journalist graduated from the Kardashian School of Journalism

We all ought to be appalled because this once great nation is descending quickly into mediocrity and of its own choosing

Personal Best Regards:

You reveal in one post the kind of media that you spend your time reading or watching and what is important to you.

In the age of Trump, journalism is vital, as it always has been and always will for our democracy.

There will always be people like you who are fascinated with the Kardashian stories but anyone interested in our democracy recognizes the importance of staying abreast of news, AND importantly in today's age the investigative journalism.

Without investigative journalism, Mike Flynn would still be the chief adviser to the White House, even though he cannot even pass a normal screening for a clearance and appears to be a traitor to his country.

Democracy needs journalism and we have good ones.

You and the Russian point of view about ridiculing reporting you do not care for because it is anti your point of view, and it protects our democracy.

The media does a great job, and I say that even though it is a crucial part of this administration and its followers, such as you, to demean the free press, ridicule it and try to shut down truth so the only message is the one you wish to get out there.

[Taltarzac725]

You reveal in one post the kind of media that you spend your time reading or watching and what is important to you.

In the age of Trump, journalism is vital, as it always has been and always will for our democracy.

There will always be people like you who are fascinated with the Kardashian stories but anyone interested in our democracy recognizes the importance of staying abreast of news, AND importantly in today's age the investigative journalism.

Without investigative journalism, Mike Flynn would still be the chief adviser to the White House, even though he cannot even pass a normal screening for a clearance and appears to be a traitor to his country.

Democracy needs journalism and we have good ones.

You and the Russian point of view about ridiculing reporting you do not care for because it is anti your point of view, and it protects our democracy.

The media does a great job, and I say that even though it is a crucial part of this administration and its followers, such as you, to demean the free press, ridicule it and try to shut down truth so the only message is the one you wish to get out there.

Our media does do a great job. Some reporters are much better than other though and they do make mistakes. Dan Rather frequently posts on my Facebook page as I follow him. He did make some egregious journalistic mistakes but in 2017 is digging into many issues.

Once in a while Fox News will even show that they have objective diggers for the facts. Megyn Kelly - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megyn_Kelly) I like how Megyn Kelly grilled Donald John Trump in some of the debates.

That is what a free press is supposed to do. Keep bringing the facts to light even if the President of the United States does not like them.

With all the birther movement crap over years laid by TRUMP, it is hard to see TRUMP as any kind of conduit to common sense and the facts.

[Don Baldwin]

We are all aware of the continuing drop in the quality of America's educational systems. so it is not a surprise that this reduction in quality includes journalism. But necessity is the mother of invention. with the advent of 24/7 news came the need for many more "so called journalist"

However the downside of all of this is that the definition of worthy news turns out to be "non-events" Journalists publishes these non events as news events, headlines, etc. With 24/7 news to fill ingenuity is required in stringing out the story to fill airtime.

As an example. some celebrity tweets. The news people immediately label it as inappropriate or an epiphany depending on their view of the celebrity.

The story would die there but for the follow up such as Why didn't the celebrity apologize?

He did apologize but was it quick enough?

he shouldn't have apologized?

What does x have to say about the celebrity's tweet?

And was celerity y offended ?

And did director z condemn then tweet?

Its the same with all of the sexual harassment charges. We have billions of people in the world engaged in sex and dominating the news are allegations of......

What happened to issues of substance taxes, foreign policy, economy

It would seem too many of these so called journalist graduated from the Kardashian School of Journalism

We all ought to be appalled because this once great nation is descending quickly into mediocrity and of its own choosing

Personal Best Regards:

The DROP in quality...is the drop in quality of the STUDENTS. Students used to be 90% white...now they're 49% white...you lost 40% of the "good" students and they've been replaced by minorities that AREN'T good students. It's simple math. Simple substitution. What do you think brings down ALL our statistics? When your country fills with 3rd world idiots...it drops in quality.

It's NIT news...it's entertainment...it's circus...it's propaganda. The "Kardashian" part is for the women...they love that "People Magazine" sh!t.

ou want get the TRUTH even with your "issues"...they lie to us...as they steal from the treasury...more than $20 trillion so far.

FINALLY you see it! We've fallen from #1 to #25...and it's BECAUSE we've gone from a nation of productive WHITE PEOPLE...90% white...to a nation of half minorities of which about HALF are on WELFARE! We've LET them "breed out the greatness" of America.

You reveal in one post the kind of media that you spend your time reading or watching and what is important to you.

In the age of Trump, journalism is vital, as it always has been and always will for our democracy.

There will always be people like you who are fascinated with the Kardashian stories but anyone interested in our democracy recognizes the importance of staying abreast of news, AND importantly in today's age the investigative journalism.

Without investigative journalism, Mike Flynn would still be the chief adviser to the White House, even though he cannot even pass a normal screening for a clearance and appears to be a traitor to his country.

Democracy needs journalism and we have good ones.

You and the Russian point of view about ridiculing reporting you do not care for because it is anti your point of view, and it protects our democracy.

The media does a great job, and I say that even though it is a crucial part of this administration and its followers, such as you, to demean the free press, ridicule it and try to shut down truth so the only message is the one you wish to get out there.

It reveals the mainstream media...that's why I don't watch "the news"...I don't wants ANY television. If you want to waste hours on literally nothing but mindlessness...go for it. But that's ALL you're doing...even if you watch just "news" programming. You are being fed propaganda.

WHERE is the INVESTIGATIVE journalism looking into...telling us about...the REAL problems facing America? The changing demographic. The FACT that Hispanics have the most kids and have been for the last 7 years...where are those stories? The REASON education s falling is because the QUALITY of the students are falling? You can't expect "cavemen" who are literally a different species, 50,000 years of selective breeding, behind "us" to compete on a level playing field. WHY do you think blacks are the BOTTOM in EVERY culture and in EVERY country? Because they're cavemen thrown into a modern civilization and they are unprepared genetically and intellectually to thrive. Where is the journalism explaining how we're being bred out of our own country?

The media DOES do a GREAT job...disseminating propaganda!

[Don Baldwin]

Our media does do a great job. Some reporters are much better than other though and they do make mistakes. Dan Rather frequently posts on my Facebook page as I follow him. He did make some egregious journalistic mistakes but in 2017 is digging into many issues.

Once in a while Fox News will even show that they have objective diggers for the facts. Megyn Kelly - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megyn_Kelly) I like how Megyn Kelly grilled Donald John Trump in some of the debates.

That is what a free press is supposed to do. Keep bringing the facts to light even if the President of the United States does not like them.

With all the birther movement crap over years laid by TRUMP and is hard to see TRUMP as any kind of conduit to common sense and the facts.

Obama never did produce his "wet ink" signed at the time birth certificate...ALL we got was a form from the state done later and "certified" by a "Health Director". Who mysteriously died later of a plane crash.

Health director who approved Obama birth certificate dies in plane crash - NBC News (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/other/health-director-who-approved-obama-birth-certificate-dies-plane-crash-f2D11732106)

Official who OK'd Obama birth papers dies in crash (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/12/12/hawaii-obama-birth-certificate-fuddy/3996657/)

[Taltarzac725]

I would say that the Trumps are similar to the Kardashians. They each created their own version of reality.

[Rockyrd]

Those who demean the media are the fruits of Trumps labor.

NEVER, NOT ONCE, DESPITE many requests, has anyone ever shown one example of media lying with news, except for calling every lie told on tape in the Presidents own voice, fake news.

When you have a WH based on deceit, the media is vital. When you have a WH based on deception, the media is vital.

Calling out the media with no facts is simply a symptom of some syndrome that Rubicon can work on.

The OP is manifesting a NON DEMOCRATIC, almost verbatim from Putin's mouth, point of view.

President Trump’s Lies, the Definitive List - The New York Times (https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/06/23/opinion/trumps-lies.html)

Last tine we had this demeaning of free press was prior to WW2.

If Kardashian type news is offensive, try stepping up and changing your source.

[Rockyrd]

"Time Magazine called to say that I was PROBABLY going to be named “Man (Person) of the Year,” like last year, but I would have to agree to an interview and a major photo shoot. I said probably is no good and took a pass. Thanks anyway!"

Trump tweet from this morning.

His ego knows no bounds

[Taltarzac725]

"Time Magazine called to say that I was PROBABLY going to be named “Man (Person) of the Year,” like last year, but I would have to agree to an interview and a major photo shoot. I said probably is no good and took a pass. Thanks anyway!"

Trump tweet from this morning.

His ego knows no bounds

Being Person of the Year only means that person had the most effect of the world that year. Hitler and Stalin were these I believe at least once if not more.

This might just be a joke from Trump. He does that once in a while but it is hard to tell as some many of his comments belong being said by Alec Baldwin on SNL and not by an actual US President.

[Rockyrd]

"The magazine issued a statement disputing the President's account.
"The President is incorrect about how we choose Person of the Year. TIME does not comment on our choice until publication, which is December 6," a spokeswoman told CNN."

Damn jiurnalists, posting the truth

Trump tweets he 'took a pass' at being named TIME's person of the year - CNNPolitics (http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/24/politics/president-donald-trump-time-magazine/index.html)

[Taltarzac725]

"The magazine issued a statement disputing the President's account.
"The President is incorrect about how we choose Person of the Year. TIME does not comment on our choice until publication, which is December 6," a spokeswoman told CNN."

Damn jiurnalists, posting the truth

Trump tweets he 'took a pass' at being named TIME's person of the year - CNNPolitics (http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/24/politics/president-donald-trump-time-magazine/index.html)

I hope they pick someone else though. I would say Mueller has had far more of an impact than that Trump. Mueller might be the one who’s ‘draining the swamp’ - The Washington Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/mueller-might-be-the-one-whos-draining-the-swamp/2017/11/24/e1f11ae0-c40b-11e7-84bc-5e285c7f4512_story.html?utm_term=.005f606d3fa2)

[Villagesperson]

Who in the world does what our President did with this "Man of the Year thing ?

What kind of man, let alone a President, makes such a statement ?

To me, this is scary stuff !!!

[rubicon]

You reveal in one post the kind of media that you spend your time reading or watching and what is important to you.

In the age of Trump, journalism is vital, as it always has been and always will for our democracy.

There will always be people like you who are fascinated with the Kardashian stories but anyone interested in our democracy recognizes the importance of staying abreast of news, AND importantly in today's age the investigative journalism.

Without investigative journalism, Mike Flynn would still be the chief adviser to the White House, even though he cannot even pass a normal screening for a clearance and appears to be a traitor to his country.

Democracy needs journalism and we have good ones.

You and the Russian point of view about ridiculing reporting you do not care for because it is anti your point of view, and it protects our democracy.

The media does a great job, and I say that even though it is a crucial part of this administration and its followers, such as you, to demean the free press, ridicule it and try to shut down truth so the only message is the one you wish to get out there.

You have got to broaden your repertoire. And you have to improve your reading comprehension because your response tells me you totally misunderstood the point of my thread. and again you raise the ugly head of Trump Derangement Syndrome . :)

As a sample my reference to the Kardashian was to underscore the tabloid type reporting by the media. However you thought it meant I was fascinated by them:D

Hint: the thread wasn't about the importance of journalism. The thread was about the deterioration of journalistic reporting.

I am not going to school you any longer.

Personal Best Regards:

[rubicon]

Our media does do a great job. Some reporters are much better than other though and they do make mistakes. Dan Rather frequently posts on my Facebook page as I follow him. He did make some egregious journalistic mistakes but in 2017 is digging into many issues.

Once in a while Fox News will even show that they have objective diggers for the facts. Megyn Kelly - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megyn_Kelly) I like how Megyn Kelly grilled Donald John Trump in some of the debates.

That is what a free press is supposed to do. Keep bringing the facts to light even if the President of the United States does not like them.

With all the birther movement crap over years laid by TRUMP, it is hard to see TRUMP as any kind of conduit to common sense and the facts.

I'll r respond by reminding you that Dan Rather left news in disgrace. Please my thread isn't about Trump. its about the quality of news reporting, a quality that has tanked baldy. you are doing what journalist do. Instead of talking substance you trash talk about Trump

Personal Best Regards:

[rubicon]

The DROP in quality...is the drop in quality of the STUDENTS. Students used to be 90% white...now they're 49% white...you lost 40% of the "good" students and they've been replaced by minorities that AREN'T good students. It's simple math. Simple substitution. What do you think brings down ALL our statistics? When your country fills with 3rd world idiots...it drops in quality.

It's NIT news...it's entertainment...it's circus...it's propaganda. The "Kardashian" part is for the women...they love that "People Magazine" sh!t.

ou want get the TRUTH even with your "issues"...they lie to us...as they steal from the treasury...more than $20 trillion so far.

FINALLY you see it! We've fallen from #1 to #25...and it's BECAUSE we've gone from a nation of productive WHITE PEOPLE...90% white...to a nation of half minorities of which about HALF are on WELFARE! We've LET them "breed out the greatness" of America.



It reveals the mainstream media...that's why I don't watch "the news"...I don't wants ANY television. If you want to waste hours on literally nothing but mindlessness...go for it. But that's ALL you're doing...even if you watch just "news" programming. You are being fed propaganda.

WHERE is the INVESTIGATIVE journalism looking into...telling us about...the REAL problems facing America? The changing demographic. The FACT that Hispanics have the most kids and have been for the last 7 years...where are those stories? The REASON education s falling is because the QUALITY of the students are falling? You can't expect "cavemen" who are literally a different species, 50,000 years of selective breeding, behind "us" to compete on a level playing field. WHY do you think blacks are the BOTTOM in EVERY culture and in EVERY country? Because they're cavemen thrown into a modern civilization and they are unprepared genetically and intellectually to thrive. Where is the journalism explaining how we're being bred out of our own country?

The media DOES do a GREAT job...disseminating propaganda!

Because I was recruiting some from Syracuse U I learned that around 30% of student who decided on journalism as their major had to first take remedial English

Personal best Regards:

[Bog99]

Because I was recruiting some from Syracuse U I learned that around 30% of student who decided on journalism as their major had to first take remedial English

Personal best Regards:




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[Bog99]

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Yes, Femo-Fascist "journalism" is a glorified GLORIFIED GROCERY STORE CHECKOUT LINE


(But then again, Femo-Fascists make 80% of consumer purchases -- so glorified check-out-line-magazine journalism is where the advertising dollars are -- which is a HUGE PROBLEM for conservatives.)

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-political-talk-88/kardashian-school-journalism-250028/


Here's an option for conservatives:



https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-political-talk-88/how-rid-senate-femo-fascist-idiots-247586/


https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-political-talk-88/how-rid-supreme-court-femo-fascist-idiots-247587/


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[rubicon]

Obama never did produce his "wet ink" signed at the time birth certificate...ALL we got was a form from the state done later and "certified" by a "Health Director". Who mysteriously died later of a plane crash.

Health director who approved Obama birth certificate dies in plane crash - NBC News (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/other/health-director-who-approved-obama-birth-certificate-dies-plane-crash-f2D11732106)

Official who OK'd Obama birth papers dies in crash (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/12/12/hawaii-obama-birth-certificate-fuddy/3996657/)

My friend ,Deep State (globalist/Internationalist/Establishment/Regulatory State) is all powerful and they control the nations narrative to their liking . Obama was their puppet and they created his fictional image. and to get back to the topic of this thread the MSM hears their dog whistle and responds with the reporting the powerful demand

Personal Best Regards:

[Rockyrd]

I'll r respond by reminding you that Dan Rather left news in disgrace. Please my thread isn't about Trump. its about the quality of news reporting, a quality that has tanked baldy. you are doing what journalist do. Instead of talking substance you trash talk about Trump

Personal Best Regards:

First, to your smart ass comment about "schooling me". Not necessary, HOWEVER,

You say things BUT YOU NEVER EVER GIVE AN EXAMPLE, except to refer to National Enquirer news. NEVER.

Until you can actually make a case instead of simply mouthing off, you are the one in need of schooling, BIG TIME.

I mentioned Flynn as one example of how journalists serve us well in recent times. The "Paradise Papers" which revealed the tax avoidances, and simply showing our Presidential lies to the world are two others.

You offer NOTHING but your words, which frankly are totally worthless.

You are simply following "your guy" because that is the kind of moronic accusation he makes, also never supplying any backdrop.

And this is not the first time, or the second or third time you used Kardashian as a topic, yet you keep speaking if real journalism as if there was a relationship.

You are the total BS package.....you simply assault with words anyone and anybody who might not love Trump. You embrace the Soviet attitude to press, and in addition (as with Trump) use the National Enquirer as a basis.

DO YOU EVER SUPPORT YOUR WORDS OR DO YOU SIMPLY MOUTH OFF CONTINUALLY ?

Nobody can engage you in discussion because you pontificate with no backup...you simply preach and run.

How do you expect a response to your saying zilch.

[rubicon]

I would say that the Trumps are similar to the Kardashians. They each created their own version of reality.

I'd say this thread is about the quality of news reporting
and that kardashians were used only to define the type of tabloid reporting that permeates news today. its all about nothing

Personal Best Regards:

[Rockyrd]

My friend ,Deep State (globalist/Internationalist/Establishment/Regulatory State) is all powerful and they control the nations narrative to their liking . Obama was their puppet and they created his fictional image. and to get back to the topic of this thread the MSM hears their dog whistle and responds with the reporting the powerful demand

Personal Best Regards:

You have really sold out to nothing but conspiracy theories.

"As David Frum has pointed out, what Trump’s surrogates really mean by “the deep state” is the rule of law. The idea that there are civil servants or functionaries within the government whose chief trait is loyalty to the Constitution and to the ongoing administration of the state is intolerable to the autocratic mind. So, if those other actors challenge the White House, they must be taunted, demoralized, and, if possible, dismissed."

The J.F.K. Files, Trump, and the Deep State | The New Yorker (https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/the-jfk-files-trump-and-the-deep-state)

[rubicon]

Those who demean the media are the fruits of Trumps labor.

NEVER, NOT ONCE, DESPITE many requests, has anyone ever shown one example of media lying with news, except for calling every lie told on tape in the Presidents own voice, fake news.

When you have a WH based on deceit, the media is vital. When you have a WH based on deception, the media is vital.

Calling out the media with no facts is simply a symptom of some syndrome that Rubicon can work on.

The OP is manifesting a NON DEMOCRATIC, almost verbatim from Putin's mouth, point of view.

President Trump’s Lies, the Definitive List - The New York Times (https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/06/23/opinion/trumps-lies.html)

Last tine we had this demeaning of free press was prior to WW2.

If Kardashian type news is offensive, try stepping up and changing your source.

You my friend are funny and I don't mean ha ha funny

Again your response supports my initial response to you. This simple topic is over your head.

You failed to grasp the simplest concepts.

You are going off the rails to areas never even implied in my original post.

Personal Best Regards:

[rubicon]

"The magazine issued a statement disputing the President's account.
"The President is incorrect about how we choose Person of the Year. TIME does not comment on our choice until publication, which is December 6," a spokeswoman told CNN."

Damn jiurnalists, posting the truth

Trump tweets he 'took a pass' at being named TIME's person of the year - CNNPolitics (http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/24/politics/president-donald-trump-time-magazine/index.html)

the topic is not about Trump but one can't let this nonsense go by

People especially progressive either do not get Trump's humor or if they do they intentional mis-spin it.

Trump is always the New York wise guy . If he did make that statement he did so in jest as an expression of what he thought of Time's choice

is like a golfer kidding about going to Q school

Progressives have lost their sense of humor.



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[rubicon]

"The magazine issued a statement disputing the President's account.
"The President is incorrect about how we choose Person of the Year. TIME does not comment on our choice until publication, which is December 6," a spokeswoman told CNN."

Damn jiurnalists, posting the truth

Trump tweets he 'took a pass' at being named TIME's person of the year - CNNPolitics (http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/24/politics/president-donald-trump-time-magazine/index.html)

Time 's man of the year Noble peace prizes Academy awards, etc are a big joke and totally political

Who cares.

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[Rockyrd]

Rubicon, you say you are "schooling me" which is actually very funny, but allow me to share a few things you might read to see how insane you and your bupizzaro world of conspiracy theorists really are.


The Deep State Is Real - POLITICO Magazine (https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/09/05/deep-state-real-cia-fbi-intelligence-215537)

The "deep state" you refer to in such conspirial terms, as only you anti America people can do.....and the twisting of sort of pushed along by Limbaugh...has existed always.

It is NOT what you dime store novel writers project, but simply hard working government employees who care about our country and a bizarre, Trump like attempt, to bring our country down.

Of course, you, Trump and Putin would love to see a few things...one attack our free press, and second, eat away at our foundational systems.

I suggest, but fear you are incapable of understanding some reading outside the Russian point of view or the extremist alt right. There are many writings on the Deep State, which you obviously do not understand but should take the time to try and understand.

Although Trump feels, and YOU support, it all began with HIM....

What Is the Deep State? | The Nation (https://www.thenation.com/article/what-is-the-deep-state/)

[Rockyrd]

Time 's man of the year Noble peace prizes Academy awards, etc are a big joke and totally political

Who cares.

Personal Best Regards:

What I care about is a man sitting in the Oval Office who would or could possibly make such a tweet, statement.

As always, you excuse the ramblings of an incoherent person.

[rubicon]

You have really sold out to nothing but conspiracy theories.

"As David Frum has pointed out, what Trump’s surrogates really mean by “the deep state” is the rule of law. The idea that there are civil servants or functionaries within the government whose chief trait is loyalty to the Constitution and to the ongoing administration of the state is intolerable to the autocratic mind. So, if those other actors challenge the White House, they must be taunted, demoralized, and, if possible, dismissed."

The J.F.K. Files, Trump, and the Deep State | The New Yorker (https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/the-jfk-files-trump-and-the-deep-state)

Grasshopper look deeper. all governments are immoral and all they want is power and control. the difference is how they go about it. In America its by the administrative state under the guise of safety security well being. the monolith we call federal government should give you a clue. Administrative State relies on the naivete' of the public

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[rubicon]

Rubicon, you say you are "schooling me" which is actually very funny, but allow me to share a few things you might read to see how insane you and your bupizzaro world of conspiracy theorists really are.


The Deep State Is Real - POLITICO Magazine (https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/09/05/deep-state-real-cia-fbi-intelligence-215537)

The "deep state" you refer to in such conspirial terms, as only you anti America people can do.....and the twisting of sort of pushed along by Limbaugh...has existed always.

It is NOT what you dime store novel writers project, but simply hard working government employees who care about our country and a bizarre, Trump like attempt, to bring our country down.

Of course, you, Trump and Putin would love to see a few things...one attack our free press, and second, eat away at our foundational systems.

I suggest, but fear you are incapable of understanding some reading outside the Russian point of view or the extremist alt right. There are many writings on the Deep State, which you obviously do not understand but should take the time to try and understand.

Although Trump feels, and YOU support, it all began with HIM....

What Is the Deep State? | The Nation (https://www.thenation.com/article/what-is-the-deep-state/)

Yea you keep believing that Deep State is far more sophisticated then the average citizen and the IRS didn't target conservative groups and the Clintons didn't rig the Democratic primary. Deep State/Administrative State has citizens so tangled up in regulations, etc under the guise of safety security health care, etc. but many citizens like nanny government

Personal Best Regards:

[rubicon]

its clear from this thread and others that there are not many serious posters on Political Talk and far too many affected with Trump Derangement syndrome.

Personal Best Regards:

[Rockyrd]

its clear from this thread and others that there are not many serious posters on Political Talk and far too many affected with Trump Derangement syndrome.

Personal Best Regards:

Your accusations without substance make you a TROLL, not a poster.

[Rockyrd]

Tweet from our President .....


".@FoxNews is MUCH more important in the United States than CNN, but outside of the U.S., CNN International is still a major source of (Fake) news, and they represent our Nation to the WORLD very poorly. The outside world does not see the truth from them"

Response from a Republican.....David Jolly...


"Pretty sure what CNN International has done is report to the world that the U.S. President questions NATO, coddles Putin, withdrew from intl trade & climate agreements, banned immigrants of a specific religion, & has threatened war on North Korea. What exactly did they get wrong?"

[Rockyrd]

CNN International has long been an important example of the free press to the world. By attacking it, Trump is doing his dictator buddies abroad a favor by undermining those who would hold them accountable.

[dirtbanker]

Your accusations without substance make you a TROLL, not a poster.

Call him a double Troll, I doubt he values the opinion of a fag that drove to the voting place only to vote for someone that was not even running.

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[Rockyrd]

Call him a double Troll, I doubt he values the opinion of a fag that drove to the voting place only to vote for someone that was not even running.

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You continue to add to your firm resume of an uneducated, cellar dwelling troll.

I am sure your buddy does not value my opinion. It is substantiated, which you trolls are unaware of, and it is not a love note to Trump

[Rockyrd]

“Our liberty depends on the freedom of the press, and that cannot be limited without being lost.” - Thomas Jefferson, Jan. 28, 1786"

[Rockyrd]

Tweet from John Huey....FormerEditor in Chief of TIME...Former editor of Fortune.

"CNN played a major role in toppling the iron curtain. Fox wants to build a new one in, of all places, The U.S.A."

[Don Baldwin]

My friend ,Deep State (globalist/Internationalist/Establishment/Regulatory State) is all powerful and they control the nations narrative to their liking . Obama was their puppet and they created his fictional image. and to get back to the topic of this thread the MSM hears their dog whistle and responds with the reporting the powerful demand

Personal Best Regards:

OK...rubi...you get this part of the lies...so why don't you get the whole "racial equality" thing is a lie too?

The MSM...IS...the governments propaganda mouthpiece because it's owned by the same people who own the government...the ultra wealthy...who's ONLY aim...is to get even more ultra wealthy.

They have looted #20 trillion and left us to pay the check.

I'd say this thread is about the quality of news reporting
and that kardashians were used only to define the type of tabloid reporting that permeates news today. its all about nothing

Personal Best Regards:

It's ALL about dividing us up into several different groups...that all hate each other...so we'll NEVER unite against them, our real enemy.

Time 's man of the year Noble peace prizes Academy awards, etc are a big joke and totally political

Who cares.

Personal Best Regards:

See..you KNOW it's all BS...and SO IS RACIAL EQUALITY.

That's why I BEG you to go visit MLK Blvd or a black high school...so you can SEE the whole equality thing is a scam. The 99% are completely worthless.

WHY do you think there are no blacks here defending themselves? They have nothing to defend themselves with. HOW do you defend being 10X more violent? Half the race getting government benefits? 80% born out of wedlock? 80% no father "families". Lowest test scores of ANY other race. Destroy EVERY neighborhood. Destroy cities, countries...pretty much everything they touch.

Grasshopper look deeper. all governments are immoral and all they want is power and control. the difference is how they go about it. In America its by the administrative state under the guise of safety security well being. the monolith we call federal government should give you a clue. Administrative State relies on the naivete' of the public

Personal Best Regards:

Again you got it...now "get" there is NO racial equality!

“Our liberty depends on the freedom of the press, and that cannot be limited without being lost.” - Thomas Jefferson, Jan. 28, 1786"

The press USED to be independent...now it's all owned by the same people who own the government.

[Taltarzac725]

Tweet from John Huey....FormerEditor in Chief of TIME...Former editor of Fortune.

"CNN played a major role in toppling the iron curtain. Fox wants to build a new one in, of all places, The U.S.A."

Sounds accurate.

[Allegiance]

Sounds accurate.Profound remark for 31347.

Keep it up buddy

[Taltarzac725]

“Our liberty depends on the freedom of the press, and that cannot be limited without being lost.” - Thomas Jefferson, Jan. 28, 1786"

Good quote. Fox news is a mouth piece to the Trump Administration often.

[Taltarzac725]

Tweet from our President .....


".@FoxNews is MUCH more important in the United States than CNN, but outside of the U.S., CNN International is still a major source of (Fake) news, and they represent our Nation to the WORLD very poorly. The outside world does not see the truth from them"

Response from a Republican.....David Jolly...


"Pretty sure what CNN International has done is report to the world that the U.S. President questions NATO, coddles Putin, withdrew from intl trade & climate agreements, banned immigrants of a specific religion, & has threatened war on North Korea. What exactly did they get wrong?"

That is great. Way to take a stand against man of the long long con.

[Allegiance]

That is great. Way to take a stand against man of the long long con.The long long con?

Spewing unemployment as a project

[Allegiance]

The long long con?

Spewing unemployment as a projectThe 59 year con. That's long

[Don Baldwin]

Because I was recruiting some from Syracuse U I learned that around 30% of student who decided on journalism as their major had to first take remedial English

Personal best Regards:

What were the demographics of the 30% needing remedial english? Bet I know...

[rubicon]

What I care about is a man sitting in the Oval Office who would or could possibly make such a tweet, statement.

As always, you excuse the ramblings of an incoherent person.

If you go back and read my original post Trump's name was never mentioned as this was about the absurdity of news reporting.

What I find interesting is that people who hate Trump seem to be annoyed at people who support Trump and even more bizarre people who never mention Trump at all.

Again for the upteenth time, my topic is not about Trump but it seems every political thread irrespective of the topic results in reductio ad Trumpursun?

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[Rockyrd]

If you go back and read my original post Trump's name was never mentioned as this was about the absurdity of news reporting.

What I find interesting is that people who hate Trump seem to be annoyed at people who support Trump and even more bizarre people who never mention Trump at all.

Again for the upteenth time, my topic is not about Trump but it seems every political thread irrespective of the topic results in reductio ad Trumpursun?

Personal best Regards:

Still waiting for your examples of bad or absurd reporting.

I have no problem finding in depth reporting on issues of the day

Then again, I do not read the extreme (Alex Jones, etc) web sites nor the National Enquirer and skip over what you call the Kardashian news.

[mellincf]

You reveal in one post the kind of media that you spend your time reading or watching and what is important to you.

In the age of Trump, journalism is vital, as it always has been and always will for our democracy.

There will always be people like you who are fascinated with the Kardashian stories but anyone interested in our democracy recognizes the importance of staying abreast of news, AND importantly in today's age the investigative journalism.

Without investigative journalism, Mike Flynn would still be the chief adviser to the White House, even though he cannot even pass a normal screening for a clearance and appears to be a traitor to his country.

Democracy needs journalism and we have good ones.

You and the Russian point of view about ridiculing reporting you do not care for because it is anti your point of view, and it protects our democracy.

The media does a great job, and I say that even though it is a crucial part of this administration and its followers, such as you, to demean the free press, ridicule it and try to shut down truth so the only message is the one you wish to get out there.

Thank you for your excellent post. Those who denigrate good journalism (including the current President) know nothing about our proud history of investigative journalism going all the way back to 1690.

Most of the people who denigrate journalism do so because they watch Fox. Fox constantly puts down education and journalism, because their viewers are neither educated nor do they recognize real journalism.

[Bog99]

Thank you for your excellent post. Those who denigrate good journalism (including the current President) know nothing about our proud history of investigative journalism going all the way back to 1690.

Most of the people who denigrate journalism do so because they watch Fox. Fox constantly puts down education and journalism, because their viewers are neither educated nor recognize real journalism.

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Pssst!


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[Taltarzac725]

Thank you for your excellent post. Those who denigrate good journalism (including the current President) know nothing about our proud history of investigative journalism going all the way back to 1690.

Most of the people who denigrate journalism do so because they watch Fox. Fox constantly puts down education and journalism, because their viewers are neither educated nor do they recognize real journalism.

People should look at some of the journalists on Facebook. I mean like Dan Rather, Robert Reich, etc. They are really showing the problems the Donald John Trump administration is putting on the average Joe.

[rubicon]

Still waiting for your examples of bad or absurd reporting.

I have no problem finding in depth reporting on issues of the day

Then again, I do not read the extreme (Alex Jones, etc) web sites nor the National Enquirer and skip over what you call the Kardashian news.

my friend your own words support my contentions. the news daily is replete with examples of absurdity and people have read it so long they do not even notice difference any longer

I gave a clear and simple blueprint of what they do. You do not seem to be able to link my blue print to actual examples .

People have loss the distinction between real news and social media nonsense ie kardashian journalism "all about nothing".

an example was Melania Trump's trip with her husband to view the catastrophic results of Irma. what did reported focus on melania's shoe wear :D and they visited many so called talking heads to determine what their view was about her wearing high heels." Was it appropriate?" "What was she thinking?" "Obviously she is not serious person"...reductio ad absurbum

Now do yourself of favor and stop trying to one upmanship me. Better yet I'll make it easier for you and in front of God and the members of this forum by admitting that you are brighter, smarter and wiser than I will ever be. You will always be the winner.


to my way of thinking this forum means "nothing" its the passing of time and to take it seriously is a mistake.

Personal Best Regards:

[Don Baldwin]

Thank you for your excellent post. Those who denigrate good journalism (including the current President) know nothing about our proud history of investigative journalism going all the way back to 1690.

Most of the people who denigrate journalism do so because they watch Fox. Fox constantly puts down education and journalism, because their viewers are neither educated nor do they recognize real journalism.

They denigrate it because they KNOW better.

I've been personally involved in events that made the news...what was reported and what actually happened were not the same.

They put down the CURRENT status of "education" which I agree is deplorable. It's been dumbed-down so literally "anyone" (any white person) can pass.

[Bog99]

People should look at some of the journalists on Facebook. I mean like Dan Rather, Robert Reich, etc. They are really showing the problems the Donald John Trump administration is putting on the average Joe.

Get a real job.

[dirtbanker]

Thank you for your excellent post. Those who denigrate good journalism (including the current President) know nothing about our proud history of investigative journalism going all the way back to 1690.

Most of the people who denigrate journalism do so because they watch Fox. Fox constantly puts down education and journalism, because their viewers are neither educated nor do they recognize real journalism.

Former liberal journalist does not like Fox News...go figure.

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[Bog99]

People should look at some of the journalists on Facebook. I mean like Dan Rather, Robert Reich, etc. They are really showing the problems the Donald John Trump administration is putting on the average Joe.

Former liberal journalist does not like Fox News...go figure.

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Femo-Fascist journalists are arrogant, Type 2 Law, dictatorial busy-bodies.

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-political-talk-88/femo-fascism-has-turned-america-into-sh*t-hole-248825/


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[Rockyrd]

my friend your own words support my contentions. the news daily is replete with examples of absurdity and people have read it so long they do not even notice difference any longer

I gave a clear and simple blueprint of what they do. You do not seem to be able to link my blue print to actual examples .

People have loss the distinction between real news and social media nonsense ie kardashian journalism "all about nothing".

an example was Melania Trump's trip with her husband to view the catastrophic results of Irma. what did reported focus on melania's shoe wear :D and they visited many so called talking heads to determine what their view was about her wearing high heels." Was it appropriate?" "What was she thinking?" "Obviously she is not serious person"...reductio ad absurbum

Now do yourself of favor and stop trying to one upmanship me. Better yet I'll make it easier for you and in front of God and the members of this forum by admitting that you are brighter, smarter and wiser than I will ever be. You will always be the winner.


to my way of thinking this forum means "nothing" its the passing of time and to take it seriously is a mistake.

Personal Best Regards:

YOU are the only one who comments on Mrs. Trump's shoes on here......YOU are the only one commenting so much on Kardashian.....YOU are the one who demeans the press at every opportunity...YOU are the one who can never supply any substance (except for the above noted shoe story, which I was not aware of)......

And it is YOU who then turn your inability to even make a salient point into..."You do not seem to be able to link my blue print to actual examples ".. As you have said to me and others on here....I am not going to do your research....if you are going to accuse others, it seems only right that you allow substance.

Right is not what this forum is about, by the way. It is about discussion, but you do not discuss....YOU preach.

I have strong opinions but rarely express them without giving links or supplying the why I feel that way.

If Mrs. Trump's shoe story makes you believe the entire press has
lost their way, then fine....you base your accusations (many and varied) of "fake news", out to get the WH, lying media and such stupid comments on that....ok, that is you.

If you are offended by such stories then go to the front page of a MSM site and not the crap you are reading. You accuse me and others of some kind of syndrome when you find yourself fixated with such trite stuff, I would examine your own self and stop judging and preaching about others. Same media called Mrs. Obama a monkey, but betting that did not raise your hackles.

You are more interested than those you say have a syndrome in destroying something and obsessing on something. You do not like the media.....and you obsess to the point of accusing them of things you cannot prove or even get close to.

[Taltarzac725]

YOU are the only one who comments on Mrs. Trump's shoes on here......YOU are the only one commenting so much on Kardashian.....YOU are the one who demeans the press at every opportunity...YOU are the one who can never supply any substance (except for the above noted shoe story, which I was not aware of)......

And it is YOU who then turn your inability to even make a salient point into..."You do not seem to be able to link my blue print to actual examples ".. As you have said to me and others on here....I am not going to do your research....if you are going to accuse others, it seems only right that you allow substance.

Right is not what this forum is about, by the way. It is about discussion, but you do not discuss....YOU preach.

I have strong opinions but rarely express them without giving links or supplying the why I feel that way.

If Mrs. Trump's shoe story makes you believe the entire press has
lost their way, then fine....you base your accusations (many and varied) of "fake news", out to get the WH, lying media and such stupid comments on that....ok, that is you.

If you are offended by such stories then go to the front page of a MSM site and not the crap you are reading. You accuse me and others of some kind of syndrome when you find yourself fixated with such trite stuff, I would examine your own self and stop judging and preaching about others. Same media called Mrs. Obama a monkey, but betting that did not raise your hackles.

You are more interested than those you say have a syndrome in destroying something and obsessing on something. You do not like the media.....and you obsess to the point of accusing them of things you cannot prove or even get close to.

At least there is some substance to you two's dialog. :BigApplause:

[Rockyrd]

This was announced by Putin. This is the Russian way...

"MOSCOW (Reuters) - Russian President Vladimir Putin signed into law on Saturday new measures allowing authorities to list foreign media outlets as “foreign agents” in response to what Moscow says is unacceptable U.S. pressure on Russian media."


Russia's Putin signs 'foreign agents' media law | Reuters (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-usa-media-restrictions/russias-putin-signs-foreign-agents-media-law-idUSKBN1DP0I2)

Followed in mere hours by Trump tweet...

".@FoxNews is MUCH more important in the United States than CNN, but outside of the U.S., CNN International is still a major source of (Fake) news, and they represent our Nation to the WORLD very poorly. The outside world does not see the truth from them!"

Coincidence ? I doubt it very much. By the way...CNN INTERNATIONAL is the Gold Standard for journalism around the world. They have journalists in every country who have risked their lives to deliver factual reporting. I specifically thought they were outstanding in Syria.

This along with "rumors" our President has been overheard that he would like to see Fox as our "state news" A rumor I will remind you, but sadly, it has a readable ring to it.

[rubicon]

Your accusations without substance make you a TROLL, not a poster.

And your continuation with the absurd obsession concerning Trump stems from low attention span

Do you really want to play these silly children's games Geezzz

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[rubicon]

YOU are the only one who comments on Mrs. Trump's shoes on here......YOU are the only one commenting so much on Kardashian.....YOU are the one who demeans the press at every opportunity...YOU are the one who can never supply any substance (except for the above noted shoe story, which I was not aware of)......

And it is YOU who then turn your inability to even make a salient point into..."You do not seem to be able to link my blue print to actual examples ".. As you have said to me and others on here....I am not going to do your research....if you are going to accuse others, it seems only right that you allow substance.

Right is not what this forum is about, by the way. It is about discussion, but you do not discuss....YOU preach.

I have strong opinions but rarely express them without giving links or supplying the why I feel that way.

If Mrs. Trump's shoe story makes you believe the entire press has
lost their way, then fine....you base your accusations (many and varied) of "fake news", out to get the WH, lying media and such stupid comments on that....ok, that is you.

If you are offended by such stories then go to the front page of a MSM site and not the crap you are reading. You accuse me and others of some kind of syndrome when you find yourself fixated with such trite stuff, I would examine your own self and stop judging and preaching about others. Same media called Mrs. Obama a monkey, but betting that did not raise your hackles.

You are more interested than those you say have a syndrome in destroying something and obsessing on something. You do not like the media.....and you obsess to the point of accusing them of things you cannot prove or even get close to.

You must be Greek..............................

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[Rockyrd]

Speaking of news sites and a bizarre President, our country should fear this kind of thing seriously.....

His tweet...

"Wow, even I didn’t realize we did so much. Wish the Fake News would report! Thank you. Twitter (https://twitter.com/magapill/status/934553287214489600) …
6:25 PM - Nov 25, 2017"


The website he was so enamored with....

"The website’s name, MAGAPILL, references Trump’s campaign slogan “Make America Great Again” along with the “red pill” concept popular among the online alt-right and white nationalist movements. Taking a red pill in these circles refers to being awakened to the “reality” of the alt-right worldview, an allusion to a plot device in the 1999 science fiction film The Matrix.

MAGAPILL.com’s website appears to consist of links to archived news items from mainstream media outlets touting successes of the Trump presidency. “MAGAPILL is here to ensure that President Trump’s Legacy is properly documented,” reads the site’s about page.

Trump Tweets Link to Conspiracy Theory Website | The Weekly Standard (http://www.weeklystandard.com/trump-tweets-link-to-conspiracy-theory-website/article/2010606)

"And that’s just one tweet. Among the other crazy and baseless conspiracy theories MAGAPILL has promoted include the politically motivated murder of DNC employee Seth Rich, a cabal of members of Congress involved in satanic rituals and child sex abuse, and the existence of an anonymous internet poster with “Q-level” security clearance who is working to bring down the world order.

The tweet from President Trump appears to have brought an unprecedented amount of traffic to the bare-bones MAGAPILL website—enough to temporarily crash it.

Trump’s promotion of a fake-news site came shortly after another tweet of his blasting CNN’s international channel as “fake news.” The president regularly lobs this epithet at any legitimate news organization that he says is unfair or wrong in its coverage of him.

[Rockyrd]

You must be Greek..............................

Personal Best Regards:

I AM JUST sick of YOU almost on a daily basis, with never any substantiation maligning our media who do a great job.

The fact that they report your hero accuretly seems to bother you, but YOU are the one who has simply trashed the media month after month. You have said they lied...you have said they twist things.....not much you have not blamed them for, YET YOU NEVER supply any proof...just accusations.

Dont be getting cutsey with me and all smart ass remarks.

You make the accusations.......if true I will support them, but if you are LYING as you have been, or providing nothing BUT ACCUSATIONS then you need to be corrected.

You can post your cute little smart ass comments all you want.

Try to deal with facts some time...you may find it refreshing.

[Taltarzac725]

I AM JUST sick of YOU almost on a daily basis, with never any substantiation maligning our media who do a great job.

The fact that they report your hero accuretly seems to bother you, but YOU are the one who has simply trashed the media month after month. You have said they lied...you have said they twist things.....not much you have not blamed them for, YET YOU NEVER supply any proof...just accusations.

Dont be getting cutsey with me and all smart ass remarks.

You make the accusations.......if true I will support them, but if you are LYING as you have been, or providing nothing BUT ACCUSATIONS then you need to be corrected.

You can post your cute little smart ass comments all you want.

Try to deal with facts some time...you may find it refreshing.

Donald John Trump just keeps on lying. Must be second nature for him.

[Rockyrd]

And your continuation with the absurd obsession concerning Trump stems from low attention span

Do you really want to play these silly children's games Geezzz

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My obsession ?

I simply respond to you, with back up in whomever you are accusing and demeaning. So, I speak to blunt your preaching and terrible things you say about others.

You have spent a year accusing, demeaning, and undercutting our free press.

I simply respond..I ask your source, you do not respond. I ask for examples of why you do this, you do not respond. At one time you wanted issues... I gave the. To you and you simply avoided them. Just this week, threads on tx proposal, etc..you ignore.

You seem to have one function...preach and demean others..progressives, heck anyone who might oppose your idol.

No, the obsession is yours....you are obsessed with Trump. I still consider the man to be an extremely serious threat to our country, and our democratic ideals, and know he has already ruined our global reputation. You seem bound and determined to endorse and support being untruthful while you proudly speak of how moral you are. I think Trump, and you feel superior because your skin is white, despite you claiming virtue, and refusing how to solve the inequities in the right way. You take the attack position. You use innocuous arguments, such as Mrs. Trump's shoes instead of actually weighing in on the issue.

You never even try to defend his bizarre behavior , as if you condone his lying.

[Allegiance]

My obsession ?

I simply respond to you, with back up in whomever you are accusing and demeaning. So, I speak to blunt your preaching and terrible things you say about others.

You have spent a year accusing, demeaning, and undercutting our free press.

I simply respond..I ask your source, you do not respond. I ask for examples of why you do this, you do not respond. At one time you wanted issues... I gave the. To you and you simply avoided them. Just this week, threads on tx proposal, etc..you ignore.

You seem to have one function...preach and demean others..progressives, heck anyone who might oppose your idol.

No, the obsession is yours....you are obsessed with Trump. I still consider the man to be an extremely serious threat to our country, and our democratic ideals, and know he has already ruined our global reputation. You seem bound and determined to endorse and support being untruthful while you proudly speak of how moral you are. I think Trump, and you feel superior because your skin is white, despite you claiming virtue, and refusing how to solve the inequities in the right way. You take the attack position. You use innocuous arguments, such as Mrs. Trump's shoes instead of actually weighing in on the issue.

You never even try to defend his bizarre behavior , as if you condone his lying.Rockface is a nutjob. Feels Republican party is too far right. But objects to Trump, most left of any Republican ever.

Trump scares him..... booo

[dirtbanker]

I AM JUST sick of YOU almost on a daily basis, with never any substantiation maligning our media who do a great job.

The fact that they report your hero accuretly seems to bother you, but YOU are the one who has simply trashed the media month after month. You have said they lied...you have said they twist things.....not much you have not blamed them for, YET YOU NEVER supply any proof...just accusations.

Dont be getting cutsey with me and all smart ass remarks.

You make the accusations.......if true I will support them, but if you are LYING as you have been, or providing nothing BUT ACCUSATIONS then you need to be corrected.

You can post your cute little smart ass comments all you want.

Try to deal with facts some time...you may find it refreshing.

Hey Rubi - just ask the clown "why is his news source the ACCURATE one?"

Remind him that being a smart a$$ is better than being a dumb a$$...

Of course; ask him to be refreshed dealing with the fact that tax increases do not make poor people less poor.

The clown with 50 years experience in the political arena that voted Dopey Smurf for president!

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[Rockyrd]

Rockface is a nutjob. Feels Republican party is too far right. But objects to Trump, most left of any Republican ever.

Trump scares him..... booo

Yeah, I am nuts.

I object to a President who supports extreme websites that promote conspiracy theories and white supremacy.

I object to a President who simply makes up a bizarro claim about the Man of the Year....SIMOLY MAKES IT UP IN HIS MIND..and then tweets that bizarro thought to the world.

I object to a President who is more well known for his lying and deceit, across the globe, than his statesmanship.

I object to a President who is violating all ethics codes established and flat out ignores any discussion of that.

These are just from the last few days, and there is a litany of more eccentric, deceitful actions.

So, you appear comfortable with that.....actually it says more about You than anything

Oh, and I forgot the unbelivable saying the tape we all watched and heard on the bus where he bragged about grabbing, etc women, and to which he owned up to....is now..."maybe a fake"

So this erratic behavior and appearances of no touch with reality in the Oval Office does not concern you ?

[Rockyrd]

Hey Rubi - just ask the clown "why is his news source the ACCURATE one?"

Remind him a smart a$$ is better than a dumb a$$...

Of course; ask him to be refressed dealing with the fact that tax increases do not make poor people less poor.

The clown with 50 years experience in the political arena that voted Dopey Smurf for president!

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Interesting....."my news source is better". I never said that, but it is interesting you mention that Rubicon does not supply links, or any kind of factual information. Few times I recall from months ago, it was a Russian website and once he used Alex Jones.

So...good question...if he ever cited where he gets his various conspiracies, we might tell.

Oh, speaking of "dumb asses"... do you and your gang EVER READ or just the comics ?

[dirtbanker]

Interesting....."my news source is better". I never said that, but it is interesting you mention that Rubicon does not supply links, or any kind of factual information. Few times I recall from months ago, it was a Russian website and once he used Alex Jones.

So...good question...if he ever cited where he gets his various conspiracies, we might tell.

Oh, speaking of "dumb asses"... do you and your gang EVER READ or just the comics ?

Well you inferred YOUR news source, YOUR opinion, is better. And yet, you never acknowledge that there are different versions of the news depending on what MSM channel you watch or read...wonder which is accurate.

While you rely on other people's OPINIONS (and then post them in bold and red), not everyone else struggles to come up with their own opinions...

Just to clarify; your the "dumb a$$" on here, just ask your wife. She probably drove you to the polling place so you could waste your vote.

Not sure where your going on this, but I don't read comics and do not watch animated movies or shows.

As for the reading; I don't wish to speak for others, but anything you took the time to bold and red font = I never read.



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[Rockyrd]

Well you inferred YOUR news source, YOUR opinion, is better. And yet, you never acknowledge that there are different versions of the news depending on what MSM channel you watch or read...wonder which is accurate.

While you rely on other people's OPINIONS (and then post them in bold and red), not everyone else struggles to come up with their own opinions...

Just to clarify; your the "dumb a$$" on here, just ask your wife. She probably drove you to the polling place so you could waste your vote.

Not sure where your going on this, but I don't read comics and do not watch animated movies or shows.

As for the reading; I don't wish to speak for others, but anything you took the time to bold and red font = I never read.



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You need to do homework so you can speak with adults.

First, do some studying on the difference between news and commentary. The news gives you facts...The Who, what, etc. Commentary will allow for opinion, spin or whatever you might want to call it.

There is only ONE truth, it does not vary. Only variance is context, but the news is the news.

Trump actually lied when he said he turned down Man of the Year.

In his words on his twitter account. Now, the context is up for conversation.

If you check the alt right extremist sites, it is not his fault, OR they simply ignore it. Most normal people simply gaze in awe as to why he lies like that.

When I cut and paste, I supply my source, mostly news but at times opinion piece. Again, most normal human beings can tell the difference. I never refer to a commentary piece as news.

Rubicon gives nothing. He simply maligns the media as liars or whatever that day....maligns millions when he chooses one group, let's say progressives and simply blames them for anything,

But he never supplies back up for where he might have arrived at blaming these millions for what it is in that day.

Oh, I know you do not read. Your responses are clearly from someone who does not understand what he is talking about.

I have asked this question before of you and your cute little posse...if you don't read, then you truely are here only to troll ?

Listen, I have met others who resist reading and or learning..they are mostly like you...try to be cute, use shocking obscene language, mock others, have no respect for anyone or anything. Mostly, when adults are in the room, they are lost and confused.

Just wanted you to know I understand......find you to be a total loss.....but I understand.

[Rockyrd]

This was announced by Putin. This is the Russian way...

"MOSCOW (Reuters) - Russian President Vladimir Putin signed into law on Saturday new measures allowing authorities to list foreign media outlets as “foreign agents” in response to what Moscow says is unacceptable U.S. pressure on Russian media."


Russia's Putin signs 'foreign agents' media law | Reuters (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-usa-media-restrictions/russias-putin-signs-foreign-agents-media-law-idUSKBN1DP0I2)

Followed in mere hours by Trump tweet...

".@FoxNews is MUCH more important in the United States than CNN, but outside of the U.S., CNN International is still a major source of (Fake) news, and they represent our Nation to the WORLD very poorly. The outside world does not see the truth from them!"

Coincidence ? I doubt it very much. By the way...CNN INTERNATIONAL is the Gold Standard for journalism around the world. They have journalists in every country who have risked their lives to deliver factual reporting. I specifically thought they were outstanding in Syria.

This along with "rumors" our President has been overheard that he would like to see Fox as our "state news" A rumor I will remind you, but sadly, it has a readable ring to it.

I think the tweet by our President TO THE WORLD is significant......

"These are ominous words. Inside the U.S., CNN’s reporting is protected by the First Amendment and the courts. Outside of the country, U.S.-affiliated journalists do ultimately depend on the protection of the U.S. government. Trump’s tweet is a direct attack on those international journalists' freedom and even safety. Trump is inviting rogue regimes and other bad actors all over the world to harass CNN journalists—or worse. "

Trump's Sinister Attacks on CNN - The Atlantic (https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/11/trumps-sinister-attacks-on-cnn/546755/)

The attacks on our free press just continue

[Taltarzac725]

I think the tweet by our President TO THE WORLD is significant......

"These are ominous words. Inside the U.S., CNN’s reporting is protected by the First Amendment and the courts. Outside of the country, U.S.-affiliated journalists do ultimately depend on the protection of the U.S. government. Trump’s tweet is a direct attack on those international journalists' freedom and even safety. Trump is inviting rogue regimes and other bad actors all over the world to harass CNN journalists—or worse. "

Trump's Sinister Attacks on CNN - The Atlantic (https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/11/trumps-sinister-attacks-on-cnn/546755/)

The attacks on our free press just continue

This man needs to be impeached.

[Allegiance]

This man needs to be impeached.31447. Great job buddy

[Rockyrd]

From the same link.....this is a Trump move from his past

"Trump’s animus against CNN raises a searching and troubling question. What if the Department of Justice is doing the right thing for the wrong reason? Or what if the president’s personal determination to silence a critical media institution—or, worse, to force its sale to an ally like Rupert Murdoch—explains the sudden pivot in the Department’s antitrust philosophy?"

You follow Trump, you are required to hate CNN and the free press, but in the future this has terrible consequences.

Fox to become the government media ?

[dirtbanker]

You need to do homework so you can speak with adults.

First, do some studying on the difference between news and commentary. The news gives you facts...The Who, what, etc. Commentary will allow for opinion, spin or whatever you might want to call it.

There is only ONE truth, it does not vary. Only variance is context, but the news is the news.
Your an idiot, not an adult. I am fully aware of the difference between facts and opinion...and news today has become the combination of the two. There is very little news that does not have commentary (opinion!) added to it. You need someone to steer you to a conclusion - idiot.


Trump actually lied when he said he turned down Man of the Year.

In his words on his twitter account. Now, the context is up for conversation.

If you check the alt right extremist sites, it is not his fault, OR they simply ignore it. Most normal people simply gaze in awe as to why he lies like that.
You lie too. Only difference is some little bitch is not whining about it. You have decided you don't like the NEWS that the alt right sites put out, no surprise, they are not critical of Trump enough I suppose.

When I cut and paste, I supply my source, mostly news but at times opinion piece. Again, most normal human beings can tell the difference. I never refer to a commentary piece as news.
Yes you have linked commentary as fact, you later said you did not originally include the link as you knew it was not a reputable source. Liar!

Rubicon gives nothing. He simply maligns the media as liars or whatever that day....maligns millions when he chooses one group, let's say progressives and simply blames them for anything,

But he never supplies back up for where he might have arrived at blaming these millions for what it is in that day.
Just suck Rubi's cock and get over it.

Oh, I know you do not read. Your responses are clearly from someone who does not understand what he is talking about.

I have asked this question before of you and your cute little posse...if you don't read, then you truely are here only to troll ?

You think you know I don't read...you don't like what I have to say, so I am a "Troll". You have nothing to say other than Trump bashing, your an idiot...

Listen, I have met others who resist reading and or learning..they are mostly like you...try to be cute, use shocking obscene language, mock others, have no respect for anyone or anything. Mostly, when adults are in the room, they are lost and confused.

Just wanted you to know I understand......find you to be a total loss.....but I understand.

Listen, be honest with yourself, lets not lie. You are not rich (not talented enough, did not work hard enough, did not manage your money well, did not have any luck) and you have met very few people that want to interact with you. You think you are intelligent, you wish to impress others with your intelligence, but they are turned off by your desire to control the conversation, your desire to force them to agree with you. Your wife has as little to do with you as possible, and she demonstrates little interested in your opinions anymore.

I feel more sorry for you than the window licker, as you know you suck as a man, and he believes he is just a child.

Still waiting for you to show how the poor are less poor due to tax increases...

[Allegiance]

Your an idiot, not an adult. I am fully aware of the difference between facts and opinion...and news today has become the combination of the two. There is very little news that does not have commentary (opinion!) added to it. You need someone to steer you to a conclusion - idiot.


You lie too. Only difference is some little bitch is not whining about it. You have decided you don't like the NEWS that the alt right sites put out, no surprise, they are not critical of Trump enough I suppose.

Yes you have linked commentary as fact, you later said you did not originally include the link as you knew it was not a reputable source. Liar!

Just suck Rubi's cock and get over it.


You think you know I don't read...you don't like what I have to say, so I am a "Troll". You have nothing to say other than Trump bashing, your an idiot...


Listen, be honest with yourself, lets not lie. You are not rich (not talented enough, did not work hard enough, did not manage your money well, did not have any luck) and you have met very few people that want to interact with you. You think you are intelligent, you wish to impress others with your intelligence, but they are turned off by your desire to control the conversation, your desire to force them to agree with you. Your wife has as little to do with you as possible, and she demonstrates little interested in your opinions anymore.

I feel more sorry for you than the window licker, as you know you suck as a man, and he believes he is just a child.

Still waiting for you to show how the poor are less poor due to tax increases...Rockhead is a very sick bitter excuse for a man. Like McCain and Ginsberg, will be long gone before Trumps re-election.

[Rockyrd]

Rockhead is a very sick bitter excuse for a man. Like McCain and Ginsberg, will be long gone before Trumps re-election.

Reading the posts of ALLEGIANCE and DIRTBANKER sort of remind me a horror film.

You know the ones who never get it...who never know when they are in danger...but mostly because they are always the dumb ones...the ones who try and shock with obscenity and accusations, but never are quite able to even put a sentence together, especially one that makes sense or contains facts.

You two....ALLEGIANCE and DIRTBANKER are not only a menace to this forum, I would suppose, wherever you live as well. I sure hope you do not live in The Villages, or perhaps you have been featured in that other news sites where you live with your mother.

Whatever your situation is, keep in mind....

The use of obscenties does not make you an adult and if you are an adult, it simply makes you lame brained and weak minded

[dirtbanker]

Reading the posts of ALLEGIANCE and DIRTBANKER sort of remind me a horror film.

You know the ones who never get it...who never know when they are in danger...but mostly because they are always the dumb ones...the ones who try and shock with obscenity and accusations, but never are quite able to even put a sentence together, especially one that makes sense or contains facts.

You two....ALLEGIANCE and DIRTBANKER are not only a menace to this forum, I would suppose, wherever you live as well. I sure hope you do not live in The Villages, or perhaps you have been featured in that other news sites where you live with your mother.

Whatever your situation is, keep in mind....

The use of obscenties does not make you an adult and if you are an adult, it simply makes you lame brained and weak minded

Looks like a nerve was struck and Rockface is unable to show us how the poor are less poor due to tax increases...he claims to be so educated and having high standards (a bit hypocritical with his lying and name calling).

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[Taltarzac725]

Reading the posts of ALLEGIANCE and DIRTBANKER sort of remind me a horror film.

You know the ones who never get it...who never know when they are in danger...but mostly because they are always the dumb ones...the ones who try and shock with obscenity and accusations, but never are quite able to even put a sentence together, especially one that makes sense or contains facts.

You two....ALLEGIANCE and DIRTBANKER are not only a menace to this forum, I would suppose, wherever you live as well. I sure hope you do not live in The Villages, or perhaps you have been featured in that other news sites where you live with your mother.

Whatever your situation is, keep in mind....

The use of obscenties does not make you an adult and if you are an adult, it simply makes you lame brained and weak minded

They remind me of Beavis and Butthead. https://media.giphy.com/media/spEE4xMr7l8B2/giphy.gif

[Rockyrd]

Looks like a nerve was struck and Rockface is unable to show us how the poor are less poor due to tax increases...he claims to be so educated and having high standards (a bit hypocritical with his lying and name calling).

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THIS is your input on the tax bill ??? WOW

[Rockyrd]

They remind me of Beavis and Butthead. https://media.giphy.com/media/spEE4xMr7l8B2/giphy.gif

They ASPIRE to grow to be like Beavis and Butthead...long way to go.

[Allegiance]

THIS is your input on the tax bill ??? WOWHe only wants people to agree with him on how he perceives Donald Trump's character to be.


Zero about policy.

[dirtbanker]

THIS is your input on the tax bill ??? WOW

And yours was "the rich are going to get richer"...your feeling is those talented, hard working, risk taking individuals should be punished...



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[Rockyrd]

And yours was "the rich are going to get richer"...your feeling is those talented, hard working, risk taking individuals should be punished...



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Hard to reply when someone simply chooses to quote a phrase or sentence and then sort of dwell on that.

I have seen this before.....you don't understand the discussions, cannot think deeper than your pockets, this is the results.

Read the proposal...it makes the rich richer, and in 5 years (I think it is 5) even richer.

Why publicize by posting all things you know nothing about ?

EVERYONE on here knows you are incapable of intelligent discussion of any kind, UNLESS you talk about a body part or a cartoon.

[Don Baldwin]

Looks like a nerve was struck and Rockface is unable to show us how the poor are less poor due to tax increases...he claims to be so educated and having high standards (a bit hypocritical with his lying and name calling).

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The "poor" ARE less poor than ever...single mothers are now receiving up to $60,000 in benefits...you can't deny that...and taxes DO go up each year...you can't deny that either.

So I don't get your point of harping on that.

To give the poor more you MUST increase the "taxes" others pay...or borrow more. Either way...making an increasing number of poor less poor...costs...at least as much more...as you are decreasing their "poorness".

Every $ we spent to make them less poor...costs an equal $ in taxation.

How can you argue that?

[dirtbanker]

The "poor" ARE less poor than ever...single mothers are now receiving up to $60,000 in benefits...you can't deny that...and taxes DO go up each year...you can't deny that either.

So I don't get your point of harping on that.

To give the poor more you MUST increase the "taxes" others pay...or borrow more. Either way...making an increasing number of poor less poor...costs...at least as much more...as you are decreasing their "poorness".

Every $ we spent to make them less poor...costs an equal $ in taxation.

How can you argue that?The point is Rockface can't argue it. He had to rely on you to do it for him.

In all that math Don, why is it no matter how many tax increases are enacted, there never seems to be any less living below the poverty level?





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[Rockyrd]

"Washington (CNN)Former CIA and National Security Agency Director Michael Hayden criticized President Donald Trump's attack of CNN over the weekend, saying he could not believe a President was capable of "such an outrageous assault" on a free press or the First Amendment.

The retired United States Air Force four-star general, who is now is a CNN national security analyst, served under the past three administrations.
"If this is who we are or who we are becoming, I have wasted 40 years of my life," Hayden tweeted over the weekend. "Until now it was not possible for me to conceive of an American President capable of such an outrageous assault on truth, a free press or the first amendment."

Ex-CIA Director Hayden blasts Trump's CNN attack - CNNPolitics (http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/27/politics/michael-hayden-criticizes-trump/index.html)

[Rockyrd]

The point is Rockface can't argue it. He had to rely on you to do it for him.

In all that math Don, why is it no matter how many tax increases are enacted, there never seems to be any less living below the poverty level?





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You have been responded to more than once, and you are so weak minded, you don't even know it.

Such a waste of space

[Don Baldwin]

The point is Rockface can't argue it. He had to rely on you to do it for him.

In all that math Don, why is it no matter how many tax increases are enacted, there never seems to be any less living below the poverty level?





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Why is there NEVER enough money to "fix" the poor?

Because it's NOT the poor who end up with the money. It just passes through them. Not unlike the old "company store" concept... You're NOT a slave...you are free to leave...but while you're there...you are paid but you have to pay for lodging...food...clothing...your tools sometimes...in the end...for every dollar you were "paid"...you got to keep a penny.

Our government...run...directed...by the corporations...get the government to "provide for the poor"...SNAP, food stamps alone costs $5,000,000,000 a MONTH. And it's a pass through straight to Kraft, Tyson, the entire food industry lobbies for and profits from welfare...food welfare. $60 billion a year is spent on feeding the "poor" in this country.

The rich profit when the government feeds the poor. That is why there is NEVER enough help for the poor.

The rich used to have to have to GIVE for charity...now they get to profit from it and have YOU pay for it. They...the rich...because they own the government...literally...have "their government" tax you to pay for a problem THEY created...just so YOU would have to pay them to "fix".

WHY do we have so many poor? WHY are there more every year? Because we LET them reproduce. We need a law...if you can't support yourself...you don't bring an additional burden upon the rest of us. There ARE too many people already...and there are some we don't need more of.

[rubicon]

I AM JUST sick of YOU almost on a daily basis, with never any substantiation maligning our media who do a great job.

The fact that they report your hero accuretly seems to bother you, but YOU are the one who has simply trashed the media month after month. You have said they lied...you have said they twist things.....not much you have not blamed them for, YET YOU NEVER supply any proof...just accusations.

Dont be getting cutsey with me and all smart ass remarks.

You make the accusations.......if true I will support them, but if you are LYING as you have been, or providing nothing BUT ACCUSATIONS then you need to be corrected.

You can post your cute little smart ass comments all you want.

Try to deal with facts some time...you may find it refreshing.

Look slick, if they were reporting Trump accurately , and in fact if they were actually reporting then there would be discussion on policy accomplishments but all the media does is continue its tabloid (Kardashian) ranting.

what you are really saying to me here is that you favor MSM because they demonize Trump and that is far from reporting news and reporting it accurately because what they continue to report are non-events.

Impeach him? for what?

Look slick I write on Talk to pass the time. gain information about what is going on in TV. etc We all are only sharing our opinion. You on the other hand like a few others go off on a tirade. This is not some national forum being televised across the nation. geezzz Cool your jets

Personal Best Regards:

[rubicon]

CNN International has long been an important example of the free press to the world. By attacking it, Trump is doing his dictator buddies abroad a favor by undermining those who would hold them accountable.

Yea, that's why they refer to CNN as Clinton News Network

Personal Best Regards

[rubicon]

What I care about is a man sitting in the Oval Office who would or could possibly make such a tweet, statement.

As always, you excuse the ramblings of an incoherent person.

First: Poster keep speaking for me and I have said many times before on this thread that there are things about Trump that I DO NOT LIKE. Further Trump doesn't need anyone to defend him and excuse he does well for himself.

Secondly and most importantly I am not affected with reductio ad Trumpursum and /or Trump Derangement Syndrome.

My focus is on policy on Congress etc the Trump thing is a progressive trope to keep people like you focused on the wrong things.

The Democratic Party has failed and to keep that fact away from their voting base they push this Trump nonsense and people like you buy it hook line and sinker.

Personal Best Regards:

[rubicon]

Interesting....."my news source is better". I never said that, but it is interesting you mention that Rubicon does not supply links, or any kind of factual information. Few times I recall from months ago, it was a Russian website and once he used Alex Jones.

So...good question...if he ever cited where he gets his various conspiracies, we might tell.

Oh, speaking of "dumb asses"... do you and your gang EVER READ or just the comics ?

Look stop bearing false witness against me. I am tired of it.

I explained in a previous post on these pages I stopped listing citation , etc because it always ended up with someone denouncing the credibility of the source. so to what avail and doing proper preparation etc.

Secondly I never have read National Inquirer in my life. And if something I referenced was printed in Alex Jones it must have been a story picked up by another news source because I do not frequent Alex Jones. and with so many news sources they have gotten to the point of staling from one another

And as for comics as a source of political news some comic strips such as Mallard Fillmore doing an astonishing job o reflecting the news more accurately then main street media

I started this thread with the premises that the news today is primarily about non-events and it is done so in order to fill the 24/7 void.

I have selected certain journalist, and Television commentators whom I believe have the intelligence and moral character to be non-partisan.

I use this post to once again establish record because we have a few posters out there who seem to take editorial license an at whim

Personal Best Regards:

[rubicon]

"Washington (CNN)Former CIA and National Security Agency Director Michael Hayden criticized President Donald Trump's attack of CNN over the weekend, saying he could not believe a President was capable of "such an outrageous assault" on a free press or the First Amendment.

The retired United States Air Force four-star general, who is now is a CNN national security analyst, served under the past three administrations.
"If this is who we are or who we are becoming, I have wasted 40 years of my life," Hayden tweeted over the weekend. "Until now it was not possible for me to conceive of an American President capable of such an outrageous assault on truth, a free press or the first amendment."

Ex-CIA Director Hayden blasts Trump's CNN attack - CNNPolitics (http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/27/politics/michael-hayden-criticizes-trump/index.html)

Be very careful here because it appears both the CIA and FBI have been politicized. Why does this call for caution? because a politicized intelligence agency quickly turns into the KGB ,Stasi, etc. That is one of the issues in the Russian voter interference deal.

If Trump did what he is accused of then I agree boot him out. However if the intelligence agencies are fabricating this stuff to cover up their malfeasance or to gain more power than the American people are in a heap of trouble . these guys are masters at deception.

Personal Best Regards:

[rubicon]

You have really sold out to nothing but conspiracy theories.

"As David Frum has pointed out, what Trump’s surrogates really mean by “the deep state” is the rule of law. The idea that there are civil servants or functionaries within the government whose chief trait is loyalty to the Constitution and to the ongoing administration of the state is intolerable to the autocratic mind. So, if those other actors challenge the White House, they must be taunted, demoralized, and, if possible, dismissed."

The J.F.K. Files, Trump, and the Deep State | The New Yorker (https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/the-jfk-files-trump-and-the-deep-state)

Here's another thought as respects the Administrative State. Ask yourself why is it that despite what Party takes office these long many years government continues to grow, to tax you more, to reduce your freedoms. Old people have been under the yoke for so long they have forgotten and young people never had such freedoms and so they don't know the difference.
If you focus on what people write its often about what they read but do they think for themselves?

what I speak to is sovereignty vs collectives, the individual against collection /groups . we were suppose to have individual freedoms now we have groups telling us whether we can worship or not, own a gun or not, etc. Its all done with smoke and mirrors otherwise known as policy regulations, etc and controlled by the Administrative State. The Administrative State is fixed. they watch a president elected with the thought the guy will be here for only eight years at most but we , we will live forever. Its all a shame

Personal Best Regards:

[Rockyrd]

Be very careful here because it appears both the CIA and FBI have been politicized. Why does this call for caution? because a politicized intelligence agency quickly turns into the KGB ,Stasi, etc. That is one of the issues in the Russian voter interference deal.

If Trump did what he is accused of then I agree boot him out. However if the intelligence agencies are fabricating this stuff to cover up their malfeasance or to gain more power than the American people are in a heap of trouble . these guys are masters at deception.

Personal Best Regards:

"If Trump did what he is accused of then I agree boot him out. However if the intelligence agencies are fabricating this stuff to cover up their malfeasance or to gain more power than the American people are in a heap of trouble . these guys are masters at deception."

First of all I agree with this premise and wonder why it took you this long to stop calling it "made up" or a "hoax" or people just out to get Trump, which you have over and over.

You are now admitting you do not know anything about what this investigation, which I think is heroic and patriotic, might reveal. It NEVER was about Trump, but about how we were attacked by Russia.

HE and YOU have been making it all about him with denials, calling all the parties names, etc.

We do agree and now should only discuss what we know and stop calling everyone names UNTIL WE ACTUALLY KNOW THE RESULTS.

[Rockyrd]

Look stop bearing false witness against me. I am tired of it.

I explained in a previous post on these pages I stopped listing citation , etc because it always ended up with someone denouncing the credibility of the source. so to what avail and doing proper preparation etc.

Secondly I never have read National Inquirer in my life. And if something I referenced was printed in Alex Jones it must have been a story picked up by another news source because I do not frequent Alex Jones. and with so many news sources they have gotten to the point of staling from one another

And as for comics as a source of political news some comic strips such as Mallard Fillmore doing an astonishing job o reflecting the news more accurately then main street media

I started this thread with the premises that the news today is primarily about non-events and it is done so in order to fill the 24/7 void.

I have selected certain journalist, and Television commentators whom I believe have the intelligence and moral character to be non-partisan.

I use this post to once again establish record because we have a few posters out there who seem to take editorial license an at whim

Personal Best Regards:

1. I believe, more in this era of crazy web sites, that readers on this forum deserve to know what source you used in coming to your position on an issue. Certainly not on every post, but the prolific number of extreme bizarre websites, the use of bots by foreign powers (as evidenced in congressional hearings) to spread NON facts makes this even more important.

2. I never said you read the National Enquirer, but alluded to the fact that most of your examples of media coverage center on the type of story you would find on their pages (Mrs. Trump shoes, Kardashian). These were given when you were specifically asked for examples of your complaint about media. And Trump does read the Enquirer and has bragged on it quite a bit.

You DID directly refer to Alex Jones at least twice, once saying it was "sent to you".

3. I think you are extremely unfair, among other things, to attack the main stream media, and attack is the correct word, without feeling you need to make a case or give examples. Your criticism has ranged from the Trump Syndrome to lying and distorting, etc. and using Kardashian or a show story is a bit of a "stretch"

The media does a great job.

When the President of the United States flat out lies about being offered a Man of the Year and does so in such a worldwide public way, that's news.

When the President of the United States tears down CNN International, a standard for the world in international reporting, and touts Fox, a well known network who has a very very narrow message, and does it on a world wide stage, that's news.

Those, as I know you know, are just two examples in the past few days of bizarre action by our President. That bizarre behavior, AND ESPECIALLY THE DECEIT AND LYING, is news.

Objecting to the reporting of this kind of behavior is puzzling to me.

[Taltarzac725]

1. I believe, more in this era of crazy web sites, that readers on this forum deserve to know what source you used in coming to your position on an issue. Certainly not on every post, but the prolific number of extreme bizarre websites, the use of bots by foreign powers (as evidenced in congressional hearings) to spread NON facts makes this even more important.

2. I never said you read the National Enquirer, but alluded to the fact that most of your examples of media coverage center on the type of story you would find on their pages (Mrs. Trump shoes, Kardashian). These were given when you were specifically asked for examples of your complaint about media. And Trump does read the Enquirer and has bragged on it quite a bit.

You DID directly refer to Alex Jones at least twice, once saying it was "sent to you".

3. I think you are extremely unfair, among other things, to attack the main stream media, and attack is the correct word, without feeling you need to make a case or give examples. Your criticism has ranged from the Trump Syndrome to lying and distorting, etc. and using Kardashian or a show story is a bit of a "stretch"

The media does a great job.

When the President of the United States flat out lies about being offered a Man of the Year and does so in such a worldwide public way, that's news.

When the President of the United States tears down CNN International, a standard for the world in international reporting, and touts Fox, a well known network who has a very very narrow message, and does it on a world wide stage, that's news.

Those, as I know you know, are just two examples in the past few days of bizarre action by our President. That bizarre behavior, AND ESPECIALLY THE DECEIT AND LYING, is news.

Objecting to the reporting of this kind of behavior is puzzling to me.

I respect most of the sources for news we have. They do try to get to the facts. Trump does not. He only accepts the news that boosts his colossal ego. And I see little evidence of a conscience in Trump's make-up.

[Rockyrd]

I respect most of the sources for news we have. They do try to get to the facts. Trump does not. He only accepts the news that boosts his colossal ego. And I see little evidence of a conscience in Trump's make-up.

In order to have any discussion on a political forum, especially in todays age, we need to know what is influencing posters, ie. source of news. We all know that all sites are not honest either by commission or omission.

We are getting simply anti Trump or love Trump posts and not much that supplies any validity to it, and it certainly in most cases is simply an echo chamber for extreme hard core web sites.

I admit to being anti Trump.....for over a year I have been open about that and why. I give links for almost all my posts because it is important to share that.

Now, many mock my cut and paste or supplying link and post how they do not read them. Their choice but then they waive any consideration by me of even doing anything but mocking whatever they say, especially those weak minded folks who are only happy when the discuss body parts and or use obscenities.

I have been aggressive with those who attack the media as the source for Trump problems (low approvals, etc) because they are very clear that their only concern is that Trump got bad press, NOT WHY, nor the validity of the report. They attack, and it all sounds like a rehash of his tweets, which are never substantiated either.

The media does a good job of reporting facts. We do a lousy job of accepting them.

[Don Baldwin]

In order to have any discussion on a political forum, especially in todays age, we need to know what is influencing posters, ie. source of news. We all know that all sites are not honest either by commission or omission.

We are getting simply anti Trump or love Trump posts and not much that supplies any validity to it, and it certainly in most cases is simply an echo chamber for extreme hard core web sites.

I admit to being anti Trump.....for over a year I have been open about that and why. I give links for almost all my posts because it is important to share that.

Now, many mock my cut and paste or supplying link and post how they do not read them. Their choice but then they waive any consideration by me of even doing anything but mocking whatever they say, especially those weak minded folks who are only happy when the discuss body parts and or use obscenities.

I have been aggressive with those who attack the media as the source for Trump problems (low approvals, etc) because they are very clear that their only concern is that Trump got bad press, NOT WHY, nor the validity of the report. They attack, and it all sounds like a rehash of his tweets, which are never substantiated either.

The media does a good job of reporting facts. We do a lousy job of accepting them.

Let me fix it for you:

The media does a good job of reporting lies. We do a good job of accepting them.

[Rockyrd]

let me fix it for you:

The media does a good job of reporting lies. We do a good job of accepting them.

example, please !1