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GoodLife
11-29-2017, 01:04 PM
Garrison Keillor says fired over alleged improper behavior - StarTribune.com (http://www.startribune.com/garrison-keillor-says-fired-over-alleged-improper-behavior/460800743/)
They are dropping like flies
Taltarzac725
11-29-2017, 01:09 PM
Garrison Keillor says fired over alleged improper behavior - StarTribune.com (http://www.startribune.com/garrison-keillor-says-fired-over-alleged-improper-behavior/460800743/)
They are dropping like flies
Would have to see more about this "story" before reaching any kind of conclusion. Minnesota Public Radio fires Garrison Keillor for alleged impropriety (https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/people/2017/11/29/garrison-keillor-fired-alleged-improper-behavior-minnesota-public-radio/905491001/)
GoodLife
11-29-2017, 01:16 PM
Would have to see more about this "story" before reaching any kind of conclusion. Minnesota Public Radio fires Garrison Keillor for alleged impropriety (https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/people/2017/11/29/garrison-keillor-fired-alleged-improper-behavior-minnesota-public-radio/905491001/)
MPR is not going to fire him without very good reason.
This is ironic
His firing came one day after publications of a Washington Post column in which he argued against the idea that Minnesota Sen. Al Franken should resign his seat over allegations he groped radio host Leann Tweeden during a 2006 USO tour before he was elected to public office.
graciegirl
11-29-2017, 01:19 PM
sigh. I have had improper thoughts.:pray:
GoodLife
11-29-2017, 04:44 PM
“It’s some sort of poetic irony to be knocked off the air by a story, having told so many of them myself, but I’m 75 and don’t have any interest in arguing about this. And I cannot in conscience bring danger to a great organization I’ve worked hard for since 1969,” Keillor told AP. “A person could not hope for more than what I was given.”
Not much of a denial.
dewilson58
11-29-2017, 04:55 PM
Never heard of him.
GoodLife
11-29-2017, 05:33 PM
Never heard of him.
He probably never heard of you either, at any rate, he is a semi famous author, radio host etc
Gary Edward "Garrison" Keillor is an American author, storyteller, humorist, voice actor, and radio personality. He is best known as the creator of the Minnesota Public Radio show A Prairie Home Companion, which he hosted from 1974 to 2016. Keillor created the fictional Minnesota town Lake Wobegon, the setting of many of his books, including Lake Wobegon Days and Leaving Home: A Collection of Lake Wobegon Stories.
mtdjed
11-29-2017, 06:02 PM
Maybe Garrison is telling another story.
Wiotte
11-29-2017, 06:07 PM
I really enjoyed his folksy wit on the Home Companion.
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dewilson58
11-29-2017, 06:07 PM
Funny
Madelaine Amee
11-29-2017, 06:11 PM
I really enjoyed his folksy wit on the Home Companion.
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Me too ............. this is all getting to be ridiculous!
Wiotte
11-29-2017, 06:23 PM
Boys will be boys. The nuns thought punishment for me would be to sit me with the girls. Nope, I enjoyed every minute of it.
Lol
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784caroline
11-29-2017, 06:42 PM
Who is he or she!!!
GoodLife
11-29-2017, 06:46 PM
Who is he or she!!!
Gary Edward "Garrison" Keillor is an American author, storyteller, humorist, voice actor, and radio personality. He is best known as the creator of the Minnesota Public Radio show A Prairie Home Companion, which he hosted from 1974 to 2016. Keillor created the fictional Minnesota town Lake Wobegon, the setting of many of his books, including Lake Wobegon Days and Leaving Home: A Collection of Lake Wobegon Stories
Please don't call me nasty :wave:
manaboutown
11-29-2017, 06:58 PM
Lake Wobegon "Where all the women are strong, all the men good looking and all the children above average."
redwitch
11-29-2017, 07:16 PM
If this story is accurate, it is a prime example of a witch hunt. It was a single incident. It was a touching of bare skin on the back. It was not a groping. It was not even alleged that an inappropriate comment was made. I’m not a Keillor fan but he certainly doesn’t deserve this type of treatment for a single incident.
GoodLife
11-29-2017, 07:55 PM
If this story is accurate, it is a prime example of a witch hunt. It was a single incident. It was a touching of bare skin on the back. It was not a groping. It was not even alleged that an inappropriate comment was made. I’m not a Keillor fan but he certainly doesn’t deserve this type of treatment for a single incident.
You could be right, but I doubt they would fire him if that is all there is to the story. MPR found out about this a month ago and looks like they investigated. I doubt they would fire one of their headliners over nothing.
Last month, MPR was notified of the allegations which relate to Mr. Keillor’s conduct while he was responsible for the production of A Prairie Home Companion (APHC). MPR President Jon McTaggart immediately informed the MPR Board Chair, and a special Board committee was appointed to provide oversight and ongoing counsel. In addition, MPR retained an outside law firm to conduct an independent investigation of the allegations
Carl in Tampa
11-29-2017, 08:09 PM
If this story is accurate, it is a prime example of a witch hunt. It was a single incident. It was a touching of bare skin on the back. It was not a groping. It was not even alleged that an inappropriate comment was made. I’m not a Keillor fan but he certainly doesn’t deserve this type of treatment for a single incident.
Keillor also says the touching was inadvertent, that he apologized immediately, and the apology was accepted.
I don't like Keillor's politics, but have been a fan of Prairie Home Companion for decades. He was an outstanding teller of tales, with a gentle wit. It's a shame that Minnesota Public Radio will no longer rebroadcast the old shows.
This is, as redwitch says, a prime example of a witch hunt. Keillor was already retired from on-air broadcasting. This charge against him was obviously a move for money.
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GoodLife
11-29-2017, 08:22 PM
Keillor also says the touching was inadvertent, that he apologized immediately, and the apology was accepted.
I don't like Keillor's politics, but have been a fan of Prairie Home Companion for decades. He was an outstanding teller of tales, with a gentle wit. It's a shame that Minnesota Public Radio will no longer rebroadcast the old shows.
This is, as redwitch says, a prime example of a witch hunt. Keillor was already retired from on-air broadcasting. This charge against him was obviously a move for money.
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Keillor says... That's his story. Have you heard from the accuser yet?
Whatever it was, it was enough for MPR to completely sever the relationship. They’re cutting loose from all of Keillor’s commercial venues, and will no longer run PHC “best of” shows that Keillor hosted. He’s morphing from their most prominent celebrity into an Unperson as we speak. If that was just over a consensual affair, it would be a wild overreaction.
Move for money? Why would MPR fire their moneymaking headliner over nothing?
graciegirl
11-29-2017, 08:59 PM
Keillor also says the touching was inadvertent, that he apologized immediately, and the apology was accepted.
I don't like Keillor's politics, but have been a fan of Prairie Home Companion for decades. He was an outstanding teller of tales, with a gentle wit. It's a shame that Minnesota Public Radio will no longer rebroadcast the old shows.
This is, as redwitch says, a prime example of a witch hunt. Keillor was already retired from on-air broadcasting. This charge against him was obviously a move for money.
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I agree.
Taltarzac725
11-29-2017, 11:37 PM
Keillor says... That's his story. Have you heard from the accuser yet?
Whatever it was, it was enough for MPR to completely sever the relationship. They’re cutting loose from all of Keillor’s commercial venues, and will no longer run PHC “best of” shows that Keillor hosted. He’s morphing from their most prominent celebrity into an Unperson as we speak. If that was just over a consensual affair, it would be a wild overreaction.
Move for money? Why would MPR fire their moneymaking headliner over nothing?
The climate of the time with sexual harassment becoming a topic of the hour. Lawyers will sue on anything if there is money to be had. And in my experience will not even take meritorious cases if there is no money to make. It is about the green.
The accused's character and other instances should be taken into account.
Carl in Tampa
11-30-2017, 12:30 AM
Keillor also says the touching was inadvertent, that he apologized immediately, and the apology was accepted.
I don't like Keillor's politics, but have been a fan of Prairie Home Companion for decades. He was an outstanding teller of tales, with a gentle wit. It's a shame that Minnesota Public Radio will no longer rebroadcast the old shows.
This is, as redwitch says, a prime example of a witch hunt. Keillor was already retired from on-air broadcasting. This charge against him was obviously a move for money.
.
Keillor says... That's his story. Have you heard from the accuser yet?
Whatever it was, it was enough for MPR to completely sever the relationship. They’re cutting loose from all of Keillor’s commercial venues, and will no longer run PHC “best of” shows that Keillor hosted. He’s morphing from their most prominent celebrity into an Unperson as we speak. If that was just over a consensual affair, it would be a wild overreaction.
Move for money? Why would MPR fire their moneymaking headliner over nothing?
Perhaps I was unclear. The "move for money" was on the part of the woman making the complaint. Her lawyer contacted Keillor. I'm sure it was to see how much he was willing to pay to hush up the incident.
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Madelaine Amee
11-30-2017, 07:44 AM
If this story is accurate, it is a prime example of a witch hunt. It was a single incident. It was a touching of bare skin on the back. It was not a groping. It was not even alleged that an inappropriate comment was made. I’m not a Keillor fan but he certainly doesn’t deserve this type of treatment for a single incident.
Once again, I agree with Redwitch: He made an excellent comment for the press after the firing. Read his comments, they ring true with me.
Bay Kid
11-30-2017, 08:25 AM
Glad I am not important. I might have done at least one or two things stupid in my life.
Taltarzac725
11-30-2017, 08:32 AM
Once again, I agree with Redwitch: He made an excellent comment for the press after the firing. Read his comments, they ring true with me.
They seemed sincere to me too. The woman seems to have been a friend after that happened. I had a "friend" who did something much worse than this in the Summer of 1988 and I tried to distance myself from him as far as possible. The lady did not do that She stayed friendly with Garrison Keillor. And now she is suing when the nation is full of sexual harassment allegations and lawyers looking to collect.
GoodLife
12-01-2017, 03:23 PM
Funny how many here are willing to forgive Keillor based on one report with quotes on his side of story. MPR has known about this for a month, hired a lawyer to investigate, and they have decided to sever all connections. He was their star performer and moneymaker, they did not take this decision lightly.
Keillor himself issued a non denial saying he "didn't want to argue this" and has "had a great run"
I am pretty sure you have not heard the whole story.
graciegirl
12-01-2017, 04:11 PM
Funny how many here are willing to forgive Keillor based on one report with quotes on his side of story. MPR has known about this for a month, hired a lawyer to investigate, and they have decided to sever all connections. He was their star performer and moneymaker, they did not take this decision lightly.
Keillor himself issued a non denial saying he "didn't want to argue this" and has "had a great run"
I am pretty sure you have not heard the whole story.
I think you are a female, Goodlife, Am I right?
I feel for men who can have their life ruined with a false report. Sometimes a person's good name is forever tarnished due to someone who felt anger toward him for any number of things.
GoodLife
12-01-2017, 04:21 PM
I think you are a female, Goodlife, Am I right?
I feel for men who can have their life ruined with a false report. Sometimes a person's good name is forever tarnished due to someone who felt anger toward him for any number of things.
Gracie Dear, it matters not what gender I am. I am merely responding to news reports and comments here on this matter. The fact that MPR investigated this for a month with an independent lawyer and concluded the network should sever all relations with Keillor speaks volumes to me.
It doesn't matter whether you like Keillor or not.
fw102807
12-01-2017, 04:46 PM
To me the difference is whether these men used a position of power to intimidate and degrade another person. If what he claims that he simply put his hand on her bare back and then apologized is true then this to me would not qualify as predatory just poor judgement, but he has stated that is all he can "remember". No one has actually heard what he is being accused of.
GoodLife
12-01-2017, 04:50 PM
To me the difference is whether these men used a position of power to intimidate and degrade another person. If what he claims that he simply put his hand on her bare back and then apologized is true then this to me would not qualify as predatory just poor judgement, but he has stated that is all he can "remember". No one has actually heard what he is being accused of.
Exactly, but if they like Keillor they are willing to forgive.
Villageswimmer
12-01-2017, 08:18 PM
I expected more details on this to surface today. Since they haven’t, I strongly suspect a payoff. Keillor’s description of the event, assuming there was just one, was bizarre. MPR investigated took steps to minimize negative press and stifle the whole story. Just my opinion.
graciegirl
12-02-2017, 09:12 AM
To me the difference is whether these men used a position of power to intimidate and degrade another person. If what he claims that he simply put his hand on her bare back and then apologized is true then this to me would not qualify as predatory just poor judgement, but he has stated that is all he can "remember". No one has actually heard what he is being accused of.
I agree.
Taltarzac725
12-02-2017, 10:51 AM
Would have to see more about this "story" before reaching any kind of conclusion. Minnesota Public Radio fires Garrison Keillor for alleged impropriety (https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/people/2017/11/29/garrison-keillor-fired-alleged-improper-behavior-minnesota-public-radio/905491001/)
Hope to see a lot more links from various sources so that we can see what really happened here.
tagjr1
12-02-2017, 07:05 PM
It seems that the way this is going most, if not all "teenagers" and older will be held accountable for "groping" and "heavy petting" when they were dating. Of course it goes without saying that both sexes should be held accountable.
ColdNoMore
12-02-2017, 07:16 PM
It seems that the way this is going most, if not all "teenagers" and older will be held accountable for "groping" and "heavy petting" when they were dating. Of course it goes without saying that both sexes should be held accountable.
It should also go without saying...'consent' is the key. :oops:
fw102807
12-02-2017, 07:55 PM
It should also go without saying...'consent' is the key. :oops:
Glad someone gets it.
2ndchance
12-10-2017, 08:52 PM
I don't comment much on what I read but there's something I find kinda ironic. In a post titled 1950's values I seem to recall Redwitch referring to how poorly women were treated even after being sexually assaulted and the woman was always at fault. Redwitch sounded apaulled. Now a woman makes a claim against a radio personality she likes and it's a withhunt. I suppose it's her fault? It sounds a bit hypocritical and almost right out of the 1950's which you conveyed was so horrible. Rant over and out.
redwitch
12-11-2017, 05:47 AM
I don't comment much on what I read but there's something I find kinda ironic. In a post titled 1950's values I seem to recall Redwitch referring to how poorly women were treated even after being sexually assaulted and the woman was always at fault. Redwitch sounded apaulled. Now a woman makes a claim against a radio personality she likes and it's a withhunt. I suppose it's her fault? It sounds a bit hypocritical and almost right out of the 1950's which you conveyed was so horrible. Rant over and out.
A lot occurred in the 50s and. 60s and even the 70s that was acceptable then, not now. Sexual harassment was common and boys will be boys was the attitude. Smoking while pregnant was the norm, too. Both are wrong but I’m not going to hang someone for either.
IF Keillor’s version is even remotely accurate, then it has become a witch hunt. If there is more to the story, then it should come out so we can see the legitimacy of the firing. If it was only one event, then it is still a witch hunt.
Sexual harassment needs to stop. It is not okay to touch another without consent, regardless of who either individual is. However, if it is a one-time incident; several incidents that occurred decades ago; did not involve a minor; did not go beyond touching, then it is a witch hunt. Bring it out in the open, let the harasser apologize and let it go. Rape, stalking, sex or even attempted sex with a minor, press criminal charges if possible, ostracize the harasser, no excuses no matter who it is.
I can be appalled by someone’s past behavior and still not want to see them lose their job and be publicly humiliated. I truly admire the work Al Franken did in office but he forcibly kissed more than one woman and at least one act was recent. He needed to resign. Garrison Keillor bores me to tears but no other reports of incidents have been forthcoming. His firing, from the facts we have, is ridiculous. Had Moore (whom I find despicable regardless) harassed women when he was 30 rather than girls, I would say let it go. He chose to chase teenagers. He does not deserve sympathy, let alone a chance of public office. Things need to be put in context. Right now, any accusation can destroy a man, whether a minor transgression or a criminal act. That’s a witch hunt in my book.
Taltarzac725
12-11-2017, 07:16 AM
A lot occurred in the 50s and. 60s and even the 70s that was acceptable then, not now. Sexual harassment was common and boys will be boys was the attitude. Smoking while pregnant was the norm, too. Both are wrong but I’m not going to hang someone for either.
IF Keillor’s version is even remotely accurate, then it has become a witch hunt. If there is more to the story, then it should come out so we can see the legitimacy of the firing. If it was only one event, then it is still a witch hunt.
Sexual harassment needs to stop. It is not okay to touch another without consent, regardless of who either individual is. However, if it is a one-time incident; several incidents that occurred decades ago; did not involve a minor; did not go beyond touching, then it is a witch hunt. Bring it out in the open, let the harasser apologize and let it go. Rape, stalking, sex or even attempted sex with a minor, press criminal charges if possible, ostracize the harasser, no excuses no matter who it is.
I can be appalled by someone’s past behavior and still not want to see them lose their job and be publicly humiliated. I truly admire the work Al Franken did in office but he forcibly kissed more than one woman and at least one act was recent. He needed to resign. Garrison Keillor bores me to tears but no other reports of incidents have been forthcoming. His firing, from the facts we have, is ridiculous. Had Moore (whom I find despicable regardless) harassed women when he was 30 rather than girls, I would say let it go. He chose to chase teenagers. He does not deserve sympathy, let alone a chance of public office. Things need to be put in context. Right now, any accusation can destroy a man, whether a minor transgression or a criminal act. That’s a witch hunt in my book.
Red. I agree with you. Living in Minnesota though for 5.5 years I kind of learned how to appreciate Garrison Keillor. These things should be judged on verified accounts from all parties involved if at all possible. A legal process in other words and not gossip.
Villageswimmer
12-11-2017, 01:10 PM
When no details are released, it usually indicates the accused admitted guilt, paid a cash settlement, and parties signed a confidentiality agreement. To label this a witch hunt is a leap.
GoodLife
12-11-2017, 01:37 PM
A lot occurred in the 50s and. 60s and even the 70s that was acceptable then, not now. Sexual harassment was common and boys will be boys was the attitude. Smoking while pregnant was the norm, too. Both are wrong but I’m not going to hang someone for either.
IF Keillor’s version is even remotely accurate, then it has become a witch hunt. If there is more to the story, then it should come out so we can see the legitimacy of the firing. If it was only one event, then it is still a witch hunt.
Sexual harassment needs to stop. It is not okay to touch another without consent, regardless of who either individual is. However, if it is a one-time incident; several incidents that occurred decades ago; did not involve a minor; did not go beyond touching, then it is a witch hunt. Bring it out in the open, let the harasser apologize and let it go. Rape, stalking, sex or even attempted sex with a minor, press criminal charges if possible, ostracize the harasser, no excuses no matter who it is.
I can be appalled by someone’s past behavior and still not want to see them lose their job and be publicly humiliated. I truly admire the work Al Franken did in office but he forcibly kissed more than one woman and at least one act was recent. He needed to resign. Garrison Keillor bores me to tears but no other reports of incidents have been forthcoming. His firing, from the facts we have, is ridiculous. Had Moore (whom I find despicable regardless) harassed women when he was 30 rather than girls, I would say let it go. He chose to chase teenagers. He does not deserve sympathy, let alone a chance of public office. Things need to be put in context. Right now, any accusation can destroy a man, whether a minor transgression or a criminal act. That’s a witch hunt in my book.
Last week, an MPR spokeswoman said the company had received multiple allegations of "inappropriate behavior" against Keillor involving one person who worked with him during his time hosting "A Prairie Home Companion." Keillor retired as host of the show in 2016, but had continued to work for MPR on various projects.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/garrison-keillor-mpr-wrong-fire-investigation-article-1.3683203
MPR investigated this, hired an independent lawyer who looked into it, and reported to the board. He was their headliner/moneymaker. They did not fire him only for a "inadvertent" slip of his hand up someone's blouse.
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