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tcxr750
11-30-2017, 10:04 AM
Now that we are on the edge of war with North Korea, have offended and abandoned our friends and allies around the world and embraced friendship with the leader of a communist anti Christian country is it time to revisit the definition of “antichrist”.?

Wiotte
11-30-2017, 10:11 AM
Now that we are on the edge of war with North Korea, have offended and abandoned our friends and allies around the world and embraced friendship with the leader of a communist anti Christian country is it time to revisit the definition of “antichrist”.?



We would not have many supporters because all those who would expose the antichrist are his supporters.


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billethkid
11-30-2017, 10:32 AM
Now that we are on the edge of war with North Korea, have offended and abandoned our friends and allies around the world and embraced friendship with the leader of a communist anti Christian country is it time to revisit the definition of “antichrist”.?

And what if all these actions are what it takes to fix what is wrong?

What if there is good reason that these things are being done? If modes of operation are not in the best interest of America or do not add value or just simply a waste of time....why would anybody bad mouth the decisions.

Nobody likes change. Especially those being affected by the change. There has rarely if ever been a restructure (at any level) that wins popular support. If it were up to the popular support there would be no change.

And it is always a fact those on the outside looking in can only speculate, accuse or comment in line with their agenda.....not the task at hand which is fixing what is wrong, does not work or is not needed.

Those who make such shake up the system decisions are usually very capable of ignoring the negative repercussions that come with their decision.....which have absolutely nothing to do with the results expected.

Wiotte
11-30-2017, 10:37 AM
And what if all these actions are what it takes to fix what is wrong?

What if there is good reason that these things are being done? If modes of operation are not in the best interest of America or do not add value or just simply a waste of time....why would anybody bad mouth the decisions.

Nobody likes change. Especially those being affected by the change. There has rarely if ever been a restructure (at any level) that wins popular support. If it were up to the popular support there would be no change.

And it is always a fact those on the outside looking in can only speculate, accuse or comment in line with their agenda.....not the task at hand which is fixing what is wrong, does not work or is not needed.

Those who make such shake up the system decisions are usually very capable of ignoring the negative repercussions that come with their decision.....which have absolutely nothing to do with the results expected.



You’re fvckin nuts. Do us a favor and off yourself tonight so we won’t have to read your anti American rants.


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Rockyrd
11-30-2017, 10:40 AM
And what if all these actions are what it takes to fix what is wrong?

What if there is good reason that these things are being done? If modes of operation are not in the best interest of America or do not add value or just simply a waste of time....why would anybody bad mouth the decisions.

Nobody likes change. Especially those being affected by the change. There has rarely if ever been a restructure (at any level) that wins popular support. If it were up to the popular support there would be no change.

And it is always a fact those on the outside looking in can only speculate, accuse or comment in line with their agenda.....not the task at hand which is fixing what is wrong, does not work or is not needed.

Those who make such shake up the system decisions are usually very capable of ignoring the negative repercussions that come with their decision.....which have absolutely nothing to do with the results expected.

You need serious help and now.

Change is not necessarily bad.....BUT...CHANGE based on hate, lies and accusations is like stepping into the very depths of hades

Wiotte
11-30-2017, 11:08 AM
We patiently wait
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171130/57cb4e0742f625e0a13270a4dff70483.jpg

Abby10
11-30-2017, 11:49 AM
Ok, so someone posts on here with an opposing viewpoint and instead of taking that viewpoint up for discussion, you all put him down and call him names.

Just verifying why I've been trying to stay away from political - no discussion here. Might as well go back to NOTHING.

tcxr750
11-30-2017, 12:01 PM
And what if all these actions are what it takes to fix what is wrong?

What if there is good reason that these things are being done? If modes of operation are not in the best interest of America or do not add value or just simply a waste of time....why would anybody bad mouth the decisions.

Nobody likes change. Especially those being affected by the change. There has rarely if ever been a restructure (at any level) that wins popular support. If it were up to the popular support there would be no change.

And it is always a fact those on the outside looking in can only speculate, accuse or comment in line with their agenda.....not the task at hand which is fixing what is wrong, does not work or is not needed.

Those who make such shake up the system decisions are usually very capable of ignoring the negative repercussions that come with their decision.....which have absolutely nothing to do with the results expected.
Look at the bright side from an economic point of view. Buy up a company through mergers an acquisition, fire all the employees and sell off its assets to benefit the shareholders.
There is a difference between shaking up the “system” and destroying it.

Wiotte
11-30-2017, 12:23 PM
Ok, so someone posts on here with an opposing viewpoint and instead of taking that viewpoint up for discussion, you all put him down and call him names.

Just verifying why I've been trying to stay away from political - no discussion here. Might as well go back to NOTHING.



No point to discuss someone’s fascist viewpoint. It’s not in the American character, nor will it ever be. People like him
are more of an abnormality than the real people who live their lives in peace.


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Don Baldwin
11-30-2017, 12:44 PM
Ok, so someone posts on here with an opposing viewpoint and instead of taking that viewpoint up for discussion, you all put him down and call him names.

Just verifying why I've been trying to stay away from political - no discussion here. Might as well go back to NOTHING.

Yup...that's what the ladies here do...they're stoked with emotion with a hankering to kill the messenger.

They literally can't handle the truth.

Look at the bright side from an economic point of view. Buy up a company through mergers an acquisition, fire all the employees and sell off its assets to benefit the shareholders.
There is a difference between shaking up the “system” and destroying it.

Mitt Romney!

billethkid
11-30-2017, 01:08 PM
Look at the bright side from an economic point of view. Buy up a company through mergers an acquisition, fire all the employees and sell off its assets to benefit the shareholders.
There is a difference between shaking up the “system” and destroying it.

Depends where one sits in the food chain....eh!

Rockyrd
11-30-2017, 01:09 PM
Ok, so someone posts on here with an opposing viewpoint and instead of taking that viewpoint up for discussion, you all put him down and call him names.

Just verifying why I've been trying to stay away from political - no discussion here. Might as well go back to NOTHING.

Abby, have you been reading the news and what is happening in our White House ?

How could anyone even suggest that a man who tells such "unforced" lies and is trying hard to stir as much hate as he can be entrusted with change ?

BTK loves Trump, and obviously you do also/...I happen to love my country more.

Nothing based on lies and deceit is good

mellincf
11-30-2017, 03:08 PM
If by "shake up the system" one means tear it down (as Steve Bannon suggests) it would be wise to have something other than chaos to replace it. But that's what we're getting, because an incompetent TV game show host decided on a whim to run for President, without a single clue as to how our system works. He managed to persuade other equally uninformed citizens, via his outsized personality, that his simplistic answers were just what this country needed.

My only suggestion, beyond removing Trump once he gets crazy enough to actually chew on the carpet in front of cameras, is that every citizen be required to take a test determining their basic competency before voting.

President Trump is Unstable, Dangerous and Could Start Nuclear War, Doctors Warn (http://www.newsweek.com/president-trump-unstable-danger-nuclear-war-psychologists-warn-685029)

billethkid
11-30-2017, 03:20 PM
What we hear and see coming from Washington via the media (against Trump), the establishment (against Trump) and the democrats (against Trump) chaos reigns....most of them measure any disruption of the status quo to be chaos.
The establishment want it to appear as chaos as their way of life is threatened.
The democrats are still pi$$ing and moaning about losing the election.
The media are the amplifiers for the above.

The everyday rank and file who know only what they see and hear from their favorite media have no alternative but to parrot what they are fed.

All the reasons every body dislikes Trump are all the reasons they all liked Obama. Leave the establishment alone...in fact feed it and grow it.
Don't make wave on any subject other than racism (because of being black nobody would challenge him).
The media had their head so far up his butt if he made a quick right or left turn they would get their neck broken!!

rubicon
11-30-2017, 03:46 PM
The radical progressive dog whistle sounds again.

Progressives need to reconsider their lack of accountability in what they say. there is a vast difference between outrage, criminality and insanity and a sharp distinction needs to be underscored.

In countries such as North Korea, China, Cuba, et al lack of such accountability provides ample opportunity for their government to silence their political enemies anyway they chose. some posters on TOTV seem to not understand the manifest difference here or the importance of this concept.

The availability cascade concerning Trump Derangement Syndrome ( ie reductio ad Trumpsurdum) is tearing this nation apart. Its feeding racism, sexism, anti-white, anti christian, anti-heterosexual and even causing some radical left wingnuts to be very afraid of people who reside in rural America.

Perhaps the progressives are right and Russia has an influence in our politics because they are clearly acting as if they are taking their game right out of the KGB playbook.

Personal Best Regards:

Rockyrd
11-30-2017, 03:51 PM
The radical progressive dog whistle sounds again.

Progressives need to reconsider their lack of accountability in what they say. there is a vast difference between outrage, criminality and insanity and a sharp distinction needs to be underscored.

In countries such as North Korea, China, Cuba, et al lack of such accountability provides ample opportunity for their government to silence their political enemies anyway they chose. some posters on TOTV seem to not understand the manifest difference here or the importance of this concept.

The availability cascade concerning Trump Derangement Syndrome ( ie reductio ad Trumpsurdum) is tearing this nation apart. Its feeding racism, sexism, anti-white, anti christian, anti-heterosexual and even causing some radical left wingnuts to be very afraid of people who reside in rural America.

Perhaps the progressives are right and Russia has an influence in our politics because they are clearly acting as if they are taking their game right out of the KGB playbook.

Personal Best Regards:

What is truely amazing in reading your posts is your total and complete absolution of Trump.

It borders on eerie. He lies, people react and you attack those who react.

He falsely accuses and people defend those accused with facts and you find fault with those dealing with facts.

Amazing your defenses of Trump, by ignoring what he does and says. Your love, I am sure is something he treasures.

Wiotte
11-30-2017, 06:43 PM
What is truely amazing in reading your posts is your total and complete absolution of Trump.



It borders on eerie. He lies, people react and you attack those who react.



He falsely accuses and people defend those accused with facts and you find fault with those dealing with facts.



Amazing your defenses of Trump, by ignoring what he does and says. Your love, I am sure is something he treasures.



He is the base.


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mellincf
11-30-2017, 06:59 PM
[QUOTE=Guest]He is the base.

White House Allies Worry Trump Has Become Unstable | Vanity Fair (https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/10/white-house-allies-worry-trump-is-becoming-unstable)

Even "The American Conservative" thinks Trump is mentally ill:
The Unstable Donald Trump | The American Conservative (http://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/unstable-donald-trump-sessions/)

White House aides ‘bewildered and alarmed’: Trump seems lost in ‘some kind of paranoid delusion’ (https://www.rawstory.com/2017/05/white-house-aides-bewildered-and-alarmed-trump-seems-lost-in-some-kind-of-paranoid-delusion/)

Don Baldwin
11-30-2017, 07:09 PM
If by "shake up the system" one means tear it down (as Steve Bannon suggests) it would be wise to have something other than chaos to replace it. But that's what we're getting, because an incompetent TV game show host decided on a whim to run for President, without a single clue as to how our system works. He managed to persuade other equally uninformed citizens, via his outsized personality, that his simplistic answers were just what this country needed.

My only suggestion, beyond removing Trump once he gets crazy enough to actually chew on the carpet in front of cameras, is that every citizen be required to take a test determining their basic competency before voting.

President Trump is Unstable, Dangerous and Could Start Nuclear War, Doctors Warn (http://www.newsweek.com/president-trump-unstable-danger-nuclear-war-psychologists-warn-685029)

Well...you just eliminated 90% of black and Hispanic voters...most women too.

So...you're left with what the founders wanted...only educated white men of property.