Deep Cleaning, always a scam?

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

I went to Lake Sumter Dentistry yesterday for my free exam and x-rays.

I was told that I needed a deep cleaning and root scaling.

I was having work done at another dentist but got tired of driving an hour to Ocala so I thought I'd try someone new. My wife began going there and she likes them.

My dentist in Ocala never mentioned anything about deep cleaning. The dentist at LSD says that he can't tell if I have any cavities until the heavy stains are removed. That sounds absurd to me. My Ocala dentist was able to see minor decay from the x-rays.

I now that some people on here have recommended Lake Sumter, but I got really concerned when they mentioned "deep cleaning" which I've often heard is a scam.

I made an appointment for this deep cleaning, but I intend to cancel it.

Any opinions or suggestion would be appreciated.

[Wiotte]

I went to Lake Sumter Dentistry yesterday for my free exam and x-rays.



I was told that I needed a deep cleaning and root scaling.



I was having work done at another dentist but got tired of driving an hour to Ocala so I thought I'd try someone new. My wife began going there and she likes them.



My dentist in Ocala never mentioned anything about deep cleaning. The dentist at LSD says that he can't tell if I have any cavities until the heavy stains are removed. That sounds absurd to me. My Ocala dentist was able to see minor decay from the x-rays.



I now that some people on here have recommended Lake Sumter, but I got really concerned when they mentioned "deep cleaning" which I've often heard is a scam.



I made an appointment for this deep cleaning, but I intend to cancel it.



Any opinions or suggestion would be appreciated.



Any cavity can be see with an X-ray. It’s a scam.



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[dewilson58]

Not sure if ANY cavity can be seen. Consider:

Dental x-rays are not perfect detection tools. They are just that—tools. That means that occasionally you could have a condition that does not readily show itself in our digital imaging.

A few explanations may be accurate. First, your cavity may be so small it did not show up on your dental x-rays. A very small cavity has not yet caused enough damage to be visible through x-ray technology.

Secondly, your cavity could be hiding behind an existing filling. When you get decay near an existing filling, we call this secondary decay. Fillings are opaque and may actually block out part of your tooth from being x-rayed, rendering it invisible.

Thirdly, your teeth could overlap. If you have very close teeth, taking an x-ray without overlap may be impossible. Additionally, when you have very close teeth, getting decay between them is more likely.

[dewilson58]

I "enjoy" a deep cleaning.
Not exactly enjoyable during, but after I'm very glad.

[Challenger]

I went to Lake Sumter Dentistry yesterday for my free exam and x-rays.

I was told that I needed a deep cleaning and root scaling.

I was having work done at another dentist but got tired of driving an hour to Ocala so I thought I'd try someone new. My wife began going there and she likes them.

My dentist in Ocala never mentioned anything about deep cleaning. The dentist at LSD says that he can't tell if I have any cavities until the heavy stains are removed. That sounds absurd to me. My Ocala dentist was able to see minor decay from the x-rays.

I now that some people on here have recommended Lake Sumter, but I got really concerned when they mentioned "deep cleaning" which I've often heard is a scam.

I made an appointment for this deep cleaning, but I intend to cancel it.

Any opinions or suggestion would be appreciated.
Dr Maria Luong- Serenity Dental Spa
No such nonsense . Integrity, skill, great office staff,
fair pricing. Wife and I have been with her for 6 yrs. Extensive work for both. Totally satisfied.

Every cleaning is a "deep cleaning" More a marketing term than an actual procedure.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Sorry, the name of the place is Sumter Landing Dental and the dentist's name is David Price.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Not sure if ANY cavity can be seen. Consider:

Dental x-rays are not perfect detection tools. They are just that—tools. That means that occasionally you could have a condition that does not readily show itself in our digital imaging.

A few explanations may be accurate. First, your cavity may be so small it did not show up on your dental x-rays. A very small cavity has not yet caused enough damage to be visible through x-ray technology.

Secondly, your cavity could be hiding behind an existing filling. When you get decay near an existing filling, we call this secondary decay. Fillings are opaque and may actually block out part of your tooth from being x-rayed, rendering it invisible.

Thirdly, your teeth could overlap. If you have very close teeth, taking an x-ray without overlap may be impossible. Additionally, when you have very close teeth, getting decay between them is more likely.

Are you a dentist? If all this is true, why did my Ocala dentist not have any problem seeing what is going on?

[Barefoot]

I went to Lake Sumter Dentistry yesterday for my free exam and x-rays. I was told that I needed a deep cleaning and root scaling. I made an appointment for this deep cleaning, but I intend to cancel it. If you've ever had periodontal issues, the deep cleaning may be needed.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

I "enjoy" a deep cleaning.
Not exactly enjoyable during, but after I'm very glad.

They're also talking about root scaling.

[dewilson58]

Are you a dentist? If all this is true, why did my Ocala dentist not have any problem seeing what is going on?

Maybe your dentist didn't see "what is going on".

All I said was CONSIDER.


Thought you said, "Any opinions or suggestion would be appreciated. "
Guess not.

[Barefoot]

Not sure if ANY cavity can be seen. Consider:
Dental x-rays are not perfect detection tools. They are just that—tools. That means that occasionally you could have a condition that does not readily show itself in our digital imaging.
A few explanations may be accurate. First, your cavity may be so small it did not show up on your dental x-rays. A very small cavity has not yet caused enough damage to be visible through x-ray technology.
Secondly, your cavity could be hiding behind an existing filling. When you get decay near an existing filling, we call this secondary decay. Fillings are opaque and may actually block out part of your tooth from being x-rayed, rendering it invisible.
Thirdly, your teeth could overlap. If you have very close teeth, taking an x-ray without overlap may be impossible. Additionally, when you have very close teeth, getting decay between them is more likely.Dr. Boogie
Don't shoot the messenger.

[perrjojo]

I have worked in the dental field for many years and yes, a deep cleaning and root planing are often needed. I cannot say whether YOU need it or not. Some dentist are more aggressive in this area and some use it to increase revenue. Perhaps you should get another opinion. Another poster suggest Dr Maria Luong and I must second that recommendation. Many people need a deep cleaning and it is not a scam but if you don’t need it...well it will only hurt your pocket book.

[birdiebill]

All deep cleanings are not a scam. Periodontal disease starts around the necks of teeth as gingivitis or an inflammation of the gingival tissues (gums). Gingivitis usually causes slightly enlarged gums, often reddened in color and often bleeding especially when brushing or flossing. Gingivitis can usually be treated by a routine dental cleaning, improved efficiency of tooth brushing, and effective flossing of the teeth. Sometimes oral rinses are indicated. Gingivitis is caused by bacteria that reside in the dental plaque that accumulates on our teeth. Gingivitis is diagnosed by a clinical exam that includes periodontal probing around the teeth.

Deep cleaning, which includes root planing (root scaling) is indicated if periodontal probing around the necks of the teeth discovers "pockets" between the gingival (gum) tissue and the root surface of the teeth and/or if the probing elicits bleeding or discovers calculus (tartar) on the surface of the root in the pocket. A pocket is a deepened space between the gum tissue and the root surface. Deepened space means more than three or four millimeters in depth. "Pockets" are caused by inflammation due to bacterial plaque accumulation on the root surface and on the calculus A pocket is discovered by periodontal probing. As "pockets" grow deeper from periodontal disease, bone loss occurs around the roots of the teeth. A Periodontist is a dental specialist that treats periodontal disease and other periodontal conditions.

I would ask why the deep cleaning/root scaling is necessary. The indications are the presence of one or more of the following: pockets with or without bone loss, bleeding on probing, and/or detectable plaque or calculus on the root surface in the pocket.

[Ingenuity]

It is not a scam. As we get older, gums recede. The deep cleaning and scaling will slow the process. I finally had one 2 years ago and very glad I did. No other dentist ever suggested it. It was not pleasant and they found several pockets even though I did not have one cavity. This is a gum procedure. I am going to research your new dentist and may have them do another deep cleaning and scaling.

[rubicon]

There are many goals, as people, that we all share irrespective of our ideologies, national origin, etc.

One of those shared goals is that we all work to leave this earth with as many body parts intact as possible. that said

No one so far as mentioned "pockets" Dentist/hygienist measure pockets in the gums 4+ measurement is a concern and hence a recommendation for scaling/deep cleaning is recommence and should continue until the pockets have been reduced

Mt dentist retired a year ago. My dental hygienist was the best i ever met. she left because the dentist retired. the new dental office was horrible so I moved to a dentist in Lake Sumter Landing. My wife likes the clinic, I do not and its not because they are doing more is because they appear to be doing less and I want to leave this earth with my teeth intact

P.S. I am not a dentist:D

[graciegirl]

If you've ever had periodontal issues, the deep cleaning may be needed.

I agree. Our Dental Hygienist has taught me a lot about what happens with our gums. At first I thought her cleaning method was uncomfortable but she has really taken the time to guide me toward more careful care of my mouth.

We go to Palm Ridge Dental and our hygienist is Susan.
She is very skilled and kind. AND very through.

[retiredguy123]

If deep cleaning is not a scam, it is definitely a ripoff. The Village Dental hygienist wanted $1100 for a 90 minute deep cleaning procedure. I went to Dr. Lunsford in Leesburg and he said I did not need any deep cleaning procedures. Dentists in The Villages seem to want to push deep cleaning as a way to increase profits. How can you justify $1100 for a procedure that is not even performed by a dentist?

[Dan9871]

The Village Dental hygienist wanted $1100 for a 90 minute deep cleaning procedure.

I've been going to Village Dental since we got here, about 4 years. They done a ton of work on my teeth... no deep cleaning/scaling though.

But I have to say my teeth are in the best shape they have been in, in 30 years. I haven't had an issue with them that made me have call for an appointment... just regularly scheduled cleaning and checkups.

My dentist from before we came here was very good but he was very low key and would never push anything and I just ignored things, like occasional aches and gum bleeding now and then.

He'd always ask if I had any issues, of course, but I just say something like "No, not really", just to put things off... until a tooth broke or a filling fell out and then I'd end up needing a root canal and a crown. So maybe I was a bit to blame for the teeth issues I had over the years.

I think Village Dental is doing a great job on my teeth and I would not switch to another dentist.

[dnobles]

I went to a new dentist for the $59.00 special all they wanted to do was sell me all sorts of work on my teeth. Going back to my original dentist Dr Forrest Jerkins. I didn’t go to the new dentist for any reason other then the special offer. Cleaning and panoramic X-rays. I learned my lesson.

[Ingenuity]

Wow, 1100.00 for a deep clean?? Definitely a rip off. I paid an extra 250.00. One should only have the cleaning if they find pockets that need attention. In my case, I was a mess, but the results of treatment was great. I will be careful not be "taken."

[Jayhawk]

If deep cleaning is not a scam, it is definitely a ripoff. The Village Dental hygienist wanted $1100 for a 90 minute deep cleaning procedure. I went to Dr. Lunsford in Leesburg and he said I did not need any deep cleaning procedures. Dentists in The Villages seem to want to push deep cleaning as a way to increase profits. How can you justify $1100 for a procedure that is not even performed by a dentist?

This is exactly what a friend back home who is a dental technician told me. Her dentist rarely sees a need, and if he does it's real. But prior places she worked at sold deep cleanings and root scaling like a drive-thru attendant selling fries with that burger.

[tagjr1]

The dentist that I chose had a staff that seemed to always "up sell'. One staff member told me I needed to have X-rays, and when I refused she said" it's required by state law"! I knew this to be false and continued to refuse this service. When I protested to the Hygenist she said that the dentist "had incurred a huge expense to be able to provide His services." I found a new dentist real quick.

[sallybowron]

I went to Lake Sumter Dentistry yesterday for my free exam and x-rays.

I was told that I needed a deep cleaning and root scaling.

I was having work done at another dentist but got tired of driving an hour to Ocala so I thought I'd try someone new. My wife began going there and she likes them.

My dentist in Ocala never mentioned anything about deep cleaning. The dentist at LSD says that he can't tell if I have any cavities until the heavy stains are removed. That sounds absurd to me. My Ocala dentist was able to see minor decay from the x-rays.

I now that some people on here have recommended Lake Sumter, but I got really concerned when they mentioned "deep cleaning" which I've often heard is a scam.

I made an appointment for this deep cleaning, but I intend to cancel it.

Any opinions or suggestion would be appreciated.

I feel your pain, when a dentist here in the Villages sees my mouth the $$$$ start to flash in their eyes. I was given an estimate of $19,000 dollars and a lady with book in hand, came into me in the chair to start making appointments. When I said I couldn't spend $19,000 she said well we could break that into two parts and start with the $12,000 part. wondering which of us was loosing it first, I fled the scene.
The dentist I felt most comfortable with Dr. Maria Luong at Serenity Dentist and Spa in Spanish Springs. 350 1933 :thumbup:

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

I was told that I need deep cleaning and root scaling because of staining. I drink a lot of tea and the dentist claimed that he couldn't see if I had any cavities because of the staining. I saw my previous dentist about two months ago and he was able to see every bit of decay.

It seems that there might be a reason for deep cleaning and root scaling, but to remove stains in order to see cavities doesn't seem like a reasonable reason.

I'm going to try another dentist.

[dewilson58]

It seems that there might be a reason for deep cleaning and root scaling, but to remove stains in order to see cavities doesn't seem like a reasonable reason.

"Are you a dentist? If all this is true, why did "...........?

Oh, never mind............that would be rude to say that.

[perrjojo]

Trust me as a dental professional..just like anything...deep cleaning is NOT a scam and is often very important to your dental health. I can also tell you that unfortunately it is often recommended but not always needed. Get a second opinion.

[Spikearoni]

All deep cleanings are not a scam. Periodontal disease starts around the necks of teeth as gingivitis or an inflammation of the gingival tissues (gums). Gingivitis usually causes slightly enlarged gums, often reddened in color and often bleeding especially when brushing or flossing. Gingivitis can usually be treated by a routine dental cleaning, improved efficiency of tooth brushing, and effective flossing of the teeth. Sometimes oral rinses are indicated. Gingivitis is caused by bacteria that reside in the dental plaque that accumulates on our teeth. Gingivitis is diagnosed by a clinical exam that includes periodontal probing around the teeth.

Deep cleaning, which includes root planing (root scaling) is indicated if periodontal probing around the necks of the teeth discovers "pockets" between the gingival (gum) tissue and the root surface of the teeth and/or if the probing elicits bleeding or discovers calculus (tartar) on the surface of the root in the pocket. A pocket is a deepened space between the gum tissue and the root surface. Deepened space means more than three or four millimeters in depth. "Pockets" are caused by inflammation due to bacterial plaque accumulation on the root surface and on the calculus A pocket is discovered by periodontal probing. As "pockets" grow deeper from periodontal disease, bone loss occurs around the roots of the teeth. A Periodontist is a dental specialist that treats periodontal disease and other periodontal conditions.

I would ask why the deep cleaning/root scaling is necessary. The indications are the presence of one or more of the following: pockets with or without bone loss, bleeding on probing, and/or detectable plaque or calculus on the root surface in the pocket.

Very informative post. Thank you!

[biker1]

When it comes to deep scaling, a hygienist may very well be more skilled than a dentist. They may very well be better trained to do that procedure than a dentist and may very well have more experience doing the procedure. A dentist's time is better spent doing restorative work. Whether the cost is reasonable and whether the procedure was called for is another issue. I don't have a problem with the most qualified, and cost effective, people doing medical and dental procedures.

If deep cleaning is not a scam, it is definitely a ripoff. The Village Dental hygienist wanted $1100 for a 90 minute deep cleaning procedure. I went to Dr. Lunsford in Leesburg and he said I did not need any deep cleaning procedures. Dentists in The Villages seem to want to push deep cleaning as a way to increase profits. How can you justify $1100 for a procedure that is not even performed by a dentist?

[retiredguy123]

When it comes to deep scaling, a hygienist may very well be more skilled than a dentist. They may very well be better trained to do that procedure than a dentist and may very well have more experience doing the procedure. A dentist's time is better spent doing restorative work. Whether the cost is reasonable and whether the procedure was called for is another issue. I don't have a problem with the most qualified, and cost effective, people doing medical and dental procedures.
I don't mind paying a fair profit for a necessary procedure. But, I was quoted $1100 to deep clean only 3 quarters of my mouth with a procedure that was to take less than 2 hours by a dental hygienist. With the average pay for dental hygienists about 35 dollars per hour, the price seemed very excessive. So, I went to another dentist who told me that I didn't need any special deep cleaning, and that they could take care of any cleaning issue during a regular cleaning for which they charge $85.

[biker1]

We go to a trustworthy practice outside of The Villages - my wife doesn't practice anymore and is very particular where we go. PM me if you need a name.

I don't mind paying a fair profit for a necessary procedure. But, I was quoted $1100 to deep clean only 3 quarters of my mouth with a procedure that was to take less than 2 hours by a dental hygienist. With the average pay for dental hygienists about 35 dollars per hour, the price seemed very excessive. So, I went to another dentist who told me that I didn't need any special deep cleaning, and that they could take care of any cleaning issue during a regular cleaning for which they charge $85.

[dillywho]

I was told that I need deep cleaning and root scaling because of staining. I drink a lot of tea and the dentist claimed that he couldn't see if I had any cavities because of the staining. I saw my previous dentist about two months ago and he was able to see every bit of decay.

It seems that there might be a reason for deep cleaning and root scaling, but to remove stains in order to see cavities doesn't seem like a reasonable reason.

I'm going to try another dentist.

Please try Dr. Robert Lesh at Southern Trace Dental. I have been going to him for years. I have never had him even mention deep cleaning. On occasion, I will have a pocket and they simply fill it with an antibiotic, and that's the end of it.

As for stains, I have never had a problem with their regular cleaning removing coffee stains, etc. That being said, I do have some staining that has been there forever and will still be there when I'm gone. I grew up in Lubbock, TX, and we had artesian well water as our water source....city, not personal. The water there is now from Lake Meredith, a man-made lake created by damming a portion of the Colorado River. The water contained a heavy concentration of natural fluoride which left brown stains in the teeth, not on them. Fortunately, mine are stained in some molars. Many people, like Buddy Holly, have had their teeth capped to cover the stains that were in front and highly visible. The upside of growing up with this water is that I have really sound teeth. Dr. Lesh does x-rays and that's it....at least for me.

As a side note, I have had one cavity in my lifetime thus far. That was filled the week I turned 30. Broke my heart! Believe me, I am WELL past 30 now.:MOJE_whot:

[rexxfan]

I was told that I need deep cleaning and root scaling because of staining. I drink a lot of tea and the dentist claimed that he couldn't see if I had any cavities because of the staining. I saw my previous dentist about two months ago and he was able to see every bit of decay.

It seems that there might be a reason for deep cleaning and root scaling, but to remove stains in order to see cavities doesn't seem like a reasonable reason.

I'm going to try another dentist.

I had trouble with my dentist complaining about tea staining as well until I started using Arm & Hammer "Truly Radiant" toothpaste and mouthwash. You may want to give it a try.
--
Bob C

[kappy]

I have been using a dentist in NJ for the last 10 years. I am also very lucky to have good teeth in that I have only had 3 cavities in my lifetime. When I moved to Florida 4 years ago, I went to Aspen Dental on Rt. 441 for X-rays and a cleaning. After the X-rays and being looked at by a technician, I was brought to a person who was going to explain the work that I needed.

I was told that I needed a deep cleaning which would cost about $4000. However, I was told not to worry since my insurance would pay for half of it. I indicated that I would think about it and I then just wanted my teeth cleaned. They would not do this until I had the deep cleaning done. After arguing for 10 minutes, which included talking with the office manager, I left.

On my next visit to NJ, I went back to my former dentist who took x-rays and did a complete exam of my mouth. He said everything looked good and I had my teeth cleaned as usual. I have been back to my NJ dentist 6 times since I moved to Florida and he has never found a cavity, nor has he said I needed a deep cleaning.

Since moving to TV, I have found that many doctors seem to send their patients for many tests that, IMHO, are unnecessary. Many senior citizens are reluctant to question doctors and dentists and accept whatever they are told by these professionals. I always suggest that my friends get a second opinion if they are not sure about the first opinion.

It is not much different than the car buying experiences I have had since moving to Florida. See my thread, “Florida Car Dealer Fees”.

[banjobob]

I am not a dentist but like others when moving into the area looking for dental care , we went to a hjghly recommended dentist. After the preliminaryexam they suggested deep cleaning and suggested watching a video outlining the need for it. My wife watched and was convinced of the need ,I declined and told the dentist I only wanted my teeth cleaned at that point I was informed they did not do "just" a cleaning. We left and did not have the very expensive procedure done. We had a very competent denist in Ohio and the "deep cleaning" was never mentioned being needed. After using my original teeth for 76 years without a "deep cleaning" i'm pretty sure it wouldn't help me only pay the dentist Mercedes payment

[KenJoan]

As for the deep cleaning, I had it done once and had all sorts of problems with my gums. Swore that I would not have it done again. We are moving from Melbourne, Fl to The Villages. Several of the dentists in Melbourne practice the deep cleaning process. I did find one that does the basic cleaning. I suggest you ask the dentist office up front if they do basic cleaning if you request it. I never had this problem in PA before moving to FL.
Who is your dentist in Ocala that does basic cleaning?

[tgilbertson]

I had it described as more preventative of future cavaties rsther than finding current ones. I view it as a good idea if you have the money but not an essential. So not a scam per se, but they certainly make a profit. Not all dentists have the staff to offer the service which may explain why it was not suggested earlier

[RWR39]

I went to Lake Sumter Dentistry yesterday for my free exam and x-rays.

I was told that I needed a deep cleaning and root scaling.

I was having work done at another dentist but got tired of driving an hour to Ocala so I thought I'd try someone new. My wife began going there and she likes them.

My dentist in Ocala never mentioned anything about deep cleaning. The dentist at LSD says that he can't tell if I have any cavities until the heavy stains are removed. That sounds absurd to me. My Ocala dentist was able to see minor decay from the x-rays.

I now that some people on here have recommended Lake Sumter, but I got really concerned when they mentioned "deep cleaning" which I've often heard is a scam.

I made an appointment for this deep cleaning, but I intend to cancel it.

Any opinions or suggestion would be appreciated.
I go to three different Dentist and two out three try yo talk you into this. The one I have the most faith in does not.
And she is very through.

[joy@villagetweet.com]

Good Morning W.O.Boogie,
I kissed my dentist goodbye and went Natural. Here's what I did. First, I bought myself a jar of virgin Coconut Oil and a jar of tumeric powder at the grocery store. I took a Tablespoon of coconut oil and half a teaspoon of turmeric powder and did an "oil pull". (That means I took a tablespoonful of it and held it in my mouth for 15 minutes.) I did this while I showered. -- That means no singing in the shower THIS morning. The coconut oil pulls out the bacteria and the turmeric heals the inflammation.--And as a bonus, this keeps my teeth nice and white. Email me at joy@villagetweet.com and I'll send you a marvelous toothpaste recipe so that you never have this problem again. Have an absolutely fantastic day! -- Joy -- in The Villages.

[biker1]

My dental knowledge comes from osmosis. Be that as it may, typically cavities are found by x-rays and a physical exam of your mouth. Deep scaling is basically done in response to periodontal problems. A reputable practice will recommend the procedure when it is called for and will have hygienists who are capable of performing the procedure. Serious issues may require that you see a specialist - a periodontist. I really can't see a practice telling you it is "a good idea", per se. They should be "charting" your mouth and providing you a treatment plan that you are free to either implement or not. They do this so as to create a paper trail to document that they have diagnosed any issues you have and informed you of what is needed to address those issues. For example, my dentist doesn't present it as "a good idea" - it is either called for or not. Finding a good practice (and knowing whether it is a good practice) may take some research.

I had it described as more preventative of future cavaties rsther than finding current ones. I view it as a good idea if you have the money but not an essential. So not a scam per se, but they certainly make a profit. Not all dentists have the staff to offer the service which may explain why it was not suggested earlier

[biker1]

If you are one of the fortunate few with zero decay, rock solid gums, and don't build up tarter then good luck with never seeing a dentist again. As for the rest of us ....

If you really want to help your mouth, get an electronic toothbrush, a water pick, and dental floss and use them daily, and find a dentist you trust.
Good Morning W.O.Boogie,
I kissed my dentist goodbye and went Natural. Here's what I did. First, I bought myself a jar of virgin Coconut Oil and a jar of tumeric powder at the grocery store. I took a Tablespoon of coconut oil and half a teaspoon of turmeric powder and did an "oil pull". (That means I took a tablespoonful of it and held it in my mouth for 15 minutes.) I did this while I showered. -- That means no singing in the shower THIS morning. The coconut oil pulls out the bacteria and the turmeric heals the inflammation.--And as a bonus, this keeps my teeth nice and white. Email me at joy@villagetweet.com and I'll send you a marvelous toothpaste recipe so that you never have this problem again. Have an absolutely fantastic day! -- Joy -- in The Villages.

[PatandBob]

[QUOTE=dillywho;1487565]Please try Dr. Robert Lesh at Southern Trace Dental. I have been going to him for years. I have never had him even mention deep cleaning. On occasion, I will have a pocket and they simply fill it with an antibiotic, and that's the end of it. QUOTE]

Our experience with him hasn't been as positive. He pushed deep cleaning on me (didn't get it) and said I needed $4000 worth of dental work. Got a second opinion when I went back home from my previous dentist who said I didn't need so much work.

[dmkot2nd]

I went to several dentists in the Villages who always wanted to do a deep cleaning. I have no insurance and this costs a lot of money so I finally decided to look it up online. From what I read online, a deep cleaning is only required if the person has not had any cleanings over the past several years. Since I always got my teeth cleaned every six months, I felt this was a scam. Seems like a lot of the dentists around here want to make quick money as soon as you enter their business. I cancelled my deep cleaning and now go to a small dental practice in Fruitland Park/Leesburg.

[corona_lolita@hotmail.com]

This seems to be a trend. Most people take better care of their teeth than in the past, so as a result less maintenance is needed. Deep cleaning is the answer to lack of maintenance. Just my opinion. I've been told I have perfect teeth. When my pockets were measured they were all 1's and 2's and an occasional 3. I went to a dentist near the villages for my '$59.00 cleaning and X-rays '. They told me they have to do deep cleaning and it would be over $400.00. I said to jus t do the regular cleaning that comes with the pkg. They said that if they did that it would be unethical to not do the deep cleaning. I said it is unethical to not to ANY cleaning. I left the place and now go to Aspen Dental on 466. They dont force any procedures.

[Retired and happy]

I second the comment on Dr. Luong. Her office is in downtown Spanish Springs and her phone number is: *(352) 350-1933‬. We have been with her for five years. We have had some complicated issues with our teeth and her extensive training and compassionate care keeps us recommending her practice. Just last week I asked her about capping a tooth and she said a replacement filling is all I need...not exactly looking for a profit!

[mellincf]

I have my teeth cleaned every three months and have an excellent dentist...I spend about $4 k on my teeth annually. I've never heard of "root scaling" OR deep cleaning, even when I smoked. I'd double check if I were you. Google it.

[biker1]

Read post #13.

I have my teeth cleaned every three months and have an excellent dentist...I spend about $4 k on my teeth annually. I've never heard of "root scaling" OR deep cleaning, even when I smoked. I'd double check if I were you. Google it.

[southsun]

I got so fed up with dentists in central Fl years ago I started making the trips to UF school of Dentistry and got on their program. They almost wouldn`t work with me because I didn`t have enough work needed! This after three area dentists tried telling me I needed $7000. to $9000 worth of dental work! I was told there by one of them at one point that the dentists in Central Fl. tend to want to "rebuild" rather that repair down here. Not free up there but really priced low and they tell you the truth! They have students and faculty all over you and when you leave your not financially raped!

[pgc4340]

I went to Lake Sumter Dentistry yesterday for my free exam and x-rays.

I was told that I needed a deep cleaning and root scaling.

I was having work done at another dentist but got tired of driving an hour to Ocala so I thought I'd try someone new. My wife began going there and she likes them.

My dentist in Ocala never mentioned anything about deep cleaning. The dentist at LSD says that he can't tell if I have any cavities until the heavy stains are removed. That sounds absurd to me. My Ocala dentist was able to see minor decay from the x-rays.

I now that some people on here have recommended Lake Sumter, but I got really concerned when they mentioned "deep cleaning" which I've often heard is a scam.

I made an appointment for this deep cleaning, but I intend to cancel it.

Any opinions or suggestion would be appreciated.

I would get another opinion. When looking for a new dentist in The Villages, I was told the same thing by one dentist. All the work the dentist told me I needed would cost $5000.00 for my co-pay with dental insurance. It seemed strange to me because when I have my teeth cleaned, the hygienist always tells me that my mouth is the cleanest they have seen in a long time. I have had two different dentists since that time and found the only thing which needed to be done was the replacement of an ancient filling which had cracked. I have my teeth cleaned every six months, and that one dentist is the only one who has ever mentioned deep cleaning. "If it ain't broke, don't fix it".

[dyobrien]

I was told up north that I needed it. I let it go for a few years due to other health issues. When I got here I found a dentist per a referral and they said the same thing and sent me to a periodontist. My gums no longer bleed and the swelling went down. It was unpleasant to say the least, but I am glad that I did it. I recommend Wadsworth Dentistry on 441

[autumnspring]

This seems to be a trend. Most people take better care of their teeth than in the past, so as a result less maintenance is needed. Deep cleaning is the answer to lack of maintenance. Just my opinion. I've been told I have perfect teeth. When my pockets were measured they were all 1's and 2's and an occasional 3. I went to a dentist near the villages for my '$59.00 cleaning and X-rays '. They told me they have to do deep cleaning and it would be over $400.00. I said to jus t do the regular cleaning that comes with the pkg. They said that if they did that it would be unethical to not do the deep cleaning. I said it is unethical to not to ANY cleaning. I left the place and now go to Aspen Dental on 466. They dont force any procedures.

Sadly many dentists in this area offer such MARKETING SCHEMES. In other BUSINESSES it is called a LOSS LEADER. They get you in to SELL you something.

[debh1028]

Hi,

I'm a dental hygienist and although I haven't worked in the field for 20 years, I believe I can answer your question.
#1: - Cavities aren't always picked up with x-rays; many are but not all.
#2: The main reason for a deep scaling and root planing is because of periodontal disease. We have a greater chance of losing our teeth due to periodontal issues than cavities in our age range. Contrary to what another person said, not every cleaning is "deep scaling" because not everyone needs it. Dentists and hygienists use probes to determine the need.
#3: Heavy stains are extrinsic and not removed by deep scaling (which is below the gumline) or root planing. They're generally removed with instruments, ultrasonic scalers, and polishing with prophy paste that contains pumice.

Hope that helps a little. I don't know which dentist you were seeing in Ocala, but I can highly recommend Stephen Dunn.

Best wishes.

[Henryk]

I've been going to Village Dental since we got here, about 4 years. They done a ton of work on my teeth... no deep cleaning/scaling though.

But I have to say my teeth are in the best shape they have been in, in 30 years. I haven't had an issue with them that made me have call for an appointment... just regularly scheduled cleaning and checkups.

My dentist from before we came here was very good but he was very low key and would never push anything and I just ignored things, like occasional aches and gum bleeding now and then.

He'd always ask if I had any issues, of course, but I just say something like "No, not really", just to put things off... until a tooth broke or a filling fell out and then I'd end up needing a root canal and a crown. So maybe I was a bit to blame for the teeth issues I had over the years.

I think Village Dental is doing a great job on my teeth and I would not switch to another dentist.

I use Village Dental--Dr. Farrell. I love them. He hasn't recommended deep cleaning or scaling, but I take pretty good care of the choppers.

[Bolsadd]

My husband and I heard the same BS
I was even told they did a deep cleaning while doing my normal cleaning and because I’ve had it done beforehand I knew the difference. I was also charged $100 incorrectly. I don’t like the way they conducted business. After 3 Calls I was told they would refund my money however they never once called me to settle this dispute. Not good business

[Domenick]

Hi

I travel 500 miles twice a year just to see my dentist. I do not trust my teeth with anyone down here.

I am no dentist. But I would think if you can't see it with an x-Ray I would not have someone start drilling.

[bunnyhop]

Baylee Dental (Dr. Cayia | CEREC(R) | Summerfield Dentists | Baylee Dental | Emergencie Dental Service | Florida (http://www.bayleedental.com)) is great. Dr. Cayia is very professional. No upsell. No pressure. Highly recommended.

[2BNTV]

FWIW - I am not qualified to say whether a deep cleaning is necessary for every person. One of my disappointments was going to several dental places covered by my insurance and asked for a regular cleaning. They took x-rays and said I needed a deep cleaning. Some of them said I needed teeth pulled and two bridges made whereas my present bridge has been working well for over thirty five years. One place wanted to charge me $2,000, (my part), of a $3,000 bill. The other one wanted $8,000. I never bothered to find what I would be liable for.

I had occasion to go back north and saw my regular dentist and he said it wasn't necessary. I think you need to decide for yourself if, a possibly unnecessary procedure needs to be perform for a lot of bucks.

I listened to "mikeod" and went to Forrest Jenkins. A dentist who confirmed I didn't need a deep cleaning. He isn't in my plan so I have to pay but I don't have to listen to other dental practices who tell me I need thousands of dollars of work, that is needed. I go twice a year for a regular cleaning and the $136 per visit he charges, is well worth it!

[manaboutown]

An aunt and uncle retired to Winterhaven, FL from Towson, MD back around 1970. From then until they passed away 30 years or so later they kept returning to Baltimore for all of their dental and medical because they could not find decent providers in Central Florida.

[TechGC]

Dr Thomas Kim, his office is on the way to Leesburg on 441, very modern, has the right stuff and tells you exactly whats going on and explains it well.. Highly recommend

[tmbromley]

You must like pain too. This process is about your gums not cavities. But it hurst your gums and teeth. I am sorry I ever had it done. It’s a scam. It does not help preserve your teeth and it’s painful once the novacane wears off. I would never do it again!

[Topspinmo]

When you change dentists most will put you on there program. Stay far away from the ones money making programs. IMO once you lose bone and have deep pockets nothing going to regrow bone. I been to three dentists down here in three years. All but one are money gouging. I had the deep cleaning, all it did for me was hurt like MF, my teeth have been cleaned every 6 months for 40 years. Never had gum problem and pain till the deep cleaning. I even had one dentists that said looked good when she measured my pockets, then the hygienist took it on her self to dig into my teeth root bone trying to convince the dentist she was wrong, basically I got infection. I ran from that dental clinic even though I like the dentist, but she needed to fire the hygienist. Finely found guy that's not wanting to go to vegas every 6 months at my expense. I was about to give up and travel back to my old dentist, but finely found somebody that's wants return in his clientele.

[Tlcdsc]

New to Florida. Our teeth are fine and all we want is a cleaning twice a year. Every dentist we called said they will not just clean our teeth unless we agree to a deep cleaning if necessary. What is the deal here?

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

New to Florida. Our teeth are fine and all we want is a cleaning twice a year. Every dentist we called said they will not just clean our teeth unless we agree to a deep cleaning if necessary. What is the deal here?

If you have dental insurance it usually pays for a "FREE" exam, x-rays and cleaning every six months. The dentists get paid almost nothing by the insurance companies for those services. They do it because they feel it will generate more business. If you don't have a lot of cavities, they don't see a lot of future business.

[dewilson58]

Oh Boy.

[Laura Pintar]

i had some experience with dentist at brownwood, wanted deep cleaning for both my husband and self. went to other dentist and said my gums and teeth were good. a scam,. don't go to brownwood dentist. a scam

[crash]

They're also talking about root scaling.

The root scaling is a deep cleaning they are the same. The charge for scaling is $340 a quarter at Villages dental and is not fully covered by your insurance.

After this they would consider every cleaning as periodontal maintenance which the insurance will not pay for unless you had periodontal surgery, even though it is just the regular cleaning with a different code.

They usually recommend this if they see plaque on the x-ray. If you are not having problems I would skip it. For me it meant that as long as I had my insurance I would be paying for the semi annual cleaning instead of 100% coverage.

[MrsPhil]

Don't know how anyone would "enjoy" a "deep cleaning" based on our experience. My hubby was told he needed this, and it's not just an extra good cleaning: it is only partially covered by insurance, if you have it, and it costs hundreds of dollars. He had it done at one dentist, then we changed to Aspen Dental and they insisted he needed it again. The real kicker is that with them, they now INSIST he MUST have a deep cleaning every time, for the rest of his life, and they want him in every 4 months! That's crazy! Hey, we get it about periodontal disease, but it is treatable such that one shouldn't have to have this forever. My husband is better about his brushing and flossing and started using a water pik; we are now looking for a dentist who will just clean his teeth - we can't afford the extra $200+ every time he goes in (and they admitted their insistence is to cover themselves in case anything in the future happened... "if he has trouble 20 years from now, you could sue us" - yes, that's what she said).

My sister had this done and, after a couple of times, her dentist went back to a normal cleaning. So, it's not necessarily a scam but it may be in your case. If you liked your other dentist, go back and find a nice place for lunch to make the trip to Ocala worthwhile.

[Topspinmo]

Don't know how anyone would "enjoy" a "deep cleaning" based on our experience. My hubby was told he needed this, and it's not just an extra good cleaning: it is only partially covered by insurance, if you have it, and it costs hundreds of dollars. He had it done at one dentist, then we changed to Aspen Dental and they insisted he needed it again. The real kicker is that with them, they now INSIST he MUST have a deep cleaning every time, for the rest of his life, and they want him in every 4 months! That's crazy! Hey, we get it about periodontal disease, but it is treatable such that one shouldn't have to have this forever. My husband is better about his brushing and flossing and started using a water pik; we are now looking for a dentist who will just clean his teeth - we can't afford the extra $200+ every time he goes in (and they admitted their insistence is to cover themselves in case anything in the future happened... "if he has trouble 20 years from now, you could sue us" - yes, that's what she said).

My sister had this done and, after a couple of times, her dentist went back to a normal cleaning. So, it's not necessarily a scam but it may be in your case. If you liked your other dentist, go back and find a nice place for lunch to make the trip to Ocala worthwhile.

IMO Deep cleaning is money maker, bottom line if you got bone lost deep cleaning not going to fix it or make it better, we can debate whether it helps more than regular cleaning? Most new dentists want to do the deep cleaning for the extra cash revenue. Anybody that would go through that torcher more that once is gluten for long lasting pain, especially ever 4 months! Let's face it at our age we are lucky to have teeth due to our dental hygiene for decades. I've been to three villages dentist all three were out to drain my bank account. There good one down in fruitland park also. Which may be easier and closer than Ocala depending one where you live?

[Miles42]

a money maker.