Nancy Lopez is gasping for air

[Chatbrat]

We dropped byNancy Lopez and wanted to have a few cocktails prior to eating

Well, the bar person, gave us a song and dance why they were out of THREE high end vodkas-- we left

Mgt lost hemingways and I fear they are going to lose Lopez

IMHO-they must be on a cash basis, with their vendors. otherwise they would not run out of some of their signature bar stock

[Polar Bear]

I’m glad they allow establishments to remain in TV even though they don’t meet your standards, CB. This would be a very empty place. :)

[graciegirl]

I’m glad they allow establishments to remain in TV even though they don’t meet your standards, CB. This would be a very empty place. :)

Amen.

[JSR22]

We dropped byNancy Lopez and wanted to have a few cocktails prior to eating

Well, the bar person, gave us a song and dance why they were out of THREE high end vodkas-- we left

Mgt lost hemingways and I fear they are going to lose Lopez

IMHO-they must be on a cash basis, with their vendors. otherwise they would not run out of some of their signature bar stock

There probably is not a high demand for the vodka you are requesting.

[stan the man]

WOW , three high end vodkas . Hope they have coors..

[manaboutown]

We dropped byNancy Lopez and wanted to have a few cocktails prior to eating

Well, the bar person, gave us a song and dance why they were out of THREE high end vodkas-- we left

Mgt lost hemingways and I fear they are going to lose Lopez

IMHO-they must be on a cash basis, with their vendors. otherwise they would not run out of some of their signature bar stock

No surprise! TV is for fixed income folks, not those on an expense account!

[Fraugoofy]

We dropped byNancy Lopez and wanted to have a few cocktails prior to eating

Well, the bar person, gave us a song and dance why they were out of THREE high end vodkas-- we left

Mgt lost hemingways and I fear they are going to lose Lopez

IMHO-they must be on a cash basis, with their vendors. otherwise they would not run out of some of their signature bar stockWhen I go to Lopez, I want a high end drink, too. That's what they are known for. They make the best maple pecan old fashioned I have ever had and being from Wisconsin I have had my share of old fashioneds! The last two times we visited Lopez to show friends a nice time, they didn't have the ingredients to make some of their signature higher end drinks.

I am out, too... I will now have to settle for Kessler and Lemonade at Gators LSL!

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[tophcfa]

Hmmmm, played 18 at Lopez in November and then went in for drinks and eats and enjoyed it? Nice place, looking forward to going back. Disclaimer is that I had the best round of golf in 2017 that day. They could have served me Sh /$ on a shingle and a flat beer and I would have loved it! LOL

[Topspinmo]

Wow, a place didn't have favorite drink and it's going down hill. I guess if you get drunk enough the food tastes glorious!

[Chatbrat]

Out of Grey Goose, Chopin & Belvedere--the bar person said their purveyor went out of business-no cash to go to ABC & buy a few bottles?

[pooh]

We dropped byNancy Lopez and wanted to have a few cocktails prior to eating

Well, the bar person, gave us a song and dance why they were out of THREE high end vodkas-- we left

Mgt lost hemingways and I fear they are going to lose Lopez

IMHO-they must be on a cash basis, with their vendors. otherwise they would not run out of some of their signature bar stock

Cash basis? Maybe, but maybe not. Could be they just don’t have much call for those, but we really don’t know either way do we.

[spring_chicken]

Out of Grey Goose, Chopin & Belvedere--the bar person said their purveyor went out of business-no cash to go to ABC & buy a few bottles?

If you knew diddly about the bar business, you would know that they are not allowed to run to the store and buy liquor to sell.

[jim1941]

It's only illegal if you get caught.......they all do it.

[Chatbrat]

Much call, they were OUT, also--they include high end stuff during their happy hour

[graciegirl]

Much call, they were OUT, also--they include high end stuff during their happy hour


This provides an excellent opportunity for people to switch to pop.

[Bogie Shooter]

I’m glad they allow establishments to remain in TV even though they don’t meet your standards, CB. This would be a very empty place. :)

Amen +.

[Bogie Shooter]

Maybe some should consider the old BYOB!:1rotfl:

[Rapscallion St Croix]

I hate it when they run out of the little umbrellas to stick in my drink. One would think they would give a discount when that happens, but sadly no.

[graciegirl]

I hate it when they run out of the little umbrellas to stick in my drink. One would think they would give a discount when that happens, but sadly no.

You make me laugh out loud and spit my coffee.:clap2::1rotfl:

[GoodLife]

Out of Grey Goose, Chopin & Belvedere--the bar person said their purveyor went out of business-no cash to go to ABC & buy a few bottles?

America's foremost mixologist Dale DeGroff (who tended bar at New York City's famous Rainbow Room)

the U.S. government's definition of vodka, said DeGroff, is: "Tasteless, odorless, colorless … You are buying the bottle. You're buying the sexiness. You're buying the whole package.

Which brings us back to our little experiment. Can people really tell the difference in taste between the expensive and cheaper vodkas? Our blind vodka taste tests were conducted by Eben Klemm, the director of cocktail development for B.R. Guest, a chain of upscale restaurants.

The taste test included five super-premium vodkas (Ketel One, Belvedere, Hangar One, Stoli Elit and Grey Goose) and one economy brand (Smirnoff).
Most of the testers thought they would be able to recognize their favorite brands, which didn't surprise Klemm. "Everyone's a snob about their brands," he said. "I mean, they've built their whole nightlife identity on which brands they are -- whether they're a 'Belvedere man' or a 'Grey Goose woman.'"

read the rest here

Does Premium Vodka's Taste Live Up to Its Price Tag? - ABC News (http://abcnews.go.com/2020/Consumer/story?id=3201973&page=1)

[GoodLife]

I first clicked on this thread hoping that Nancy's health problems were not too serious, only to find out it was just a temporary vendor supply problem for fancy overpriced bottles hosting a clear odorless and tasteless spirit.

[Gpsma]

America's foremost mixologist Dale DeGroff (who tended bar at New York City's famous Rainbow Room)

the U.S. government's definition of vodka, said DeGroff, is: "Tasteless, odorless, colorless … You are buying the bottle. You're buying the sexiness. You're buying the whole package.

Which brings us back to our little experiment. Can people really tell the difference in taste between the expensive and cheaper vodkas? Our blind vodka taste tests were conducted by Eben Klemm, the director of cocktail development for B.R. Guest, a chain of upscale restaurants.

The taste test included five super-premium vodkas (Ketel One, Belvedere, Hangar One, Stoli Elit and Grey Goose) and one economy brand (Smirnoff).
Most of the testers thought they would be able to recognize their favorite brands, which didn't surprise Klemm. "Everyone's a snob about their brands," he said. "I mean, they've built their whole nightlife identity on which brands they are -- whether they're a 'Belvedere man' or a 'Grey Goose woman.'"

read the rest here

Does Premium Vodka's Taste Live Up to Its Price Tag? - ABC News (http://abcnews.go.com/2020/Consumer/story?id=3201973&page=1)

If you drink Vodka straight up you can tell the difference...but I agree you may not be able to discern a particular brand

[Gpsma]

This provides an excellent opportunity for people to switch to pop.


Its Soda not pop.

But here I thought you werent a tea-totaller. I figured you for a straight up Manhattan kinda girl

[graciegirl]

Its Soda not pop.

But here I thought you werent a tea-totaller. I figured you for a straight up Manhattan kinda girl

It's pop. Little one.

[SFSkol]

I first clicked on this thread hoping that Nancy's health problems were not too serious, only to find out it was just a temporary vendor supply problem for fancy overpriced bottles hosting a clear odorless and tasteless spirit.

Yes, another sensationalistic misleading thread subject. This board abounds with them. Especially those cantankerous multi K posters who often title their verbiage with inflammatory titles like; Beware, Fraud, Warning, Not Good, Bad, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera...

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Out of Grey Goose, Chopin & Belvedere--the bar person said their purveyor went out of business-no cash to go to ABC & buy a few bottles?

Not sure about the law in Florida, but I owned a bar business in Massachusetts and it was illegal for me to go an by alcohol at a liquor store for resale in my bar. All alcohol had to be purchased through the distributor.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

If you drink Vodka straight up you can tell the difference...but I agree you may not be able to discern a particular brand

I disagree. Vodka is all pretty much the same. The differences in other spirits have to do more with aging and filtration. Since Vodka is not aged in any kind of environment, there is not much that can be done to change it's flavor.

If you drink several types, straight up, one after the other, you might be able to discern a very slight difference but once you mix it with anything no one can tell the difference. High-end Vodka is a scam.

[TheWarriors]

Sobieski Vodka, very smooth and easy on your wallet. I actually feel most higher end vodkas like Kettle One have an after burn. Always great to find a great product at a great price.

[spring_chicken]

Not sure about the law in Florida, but I owned a bar business in Massachusetts and it was illegal for me to go an by alcohol at a liquor store for resale in my bar. All alcohol had to be purchased through the distributor.

It is the same here. Unfortunately, some people think they are so high and mighty that the bar should break the law for them.

[SFSkol]

Sorry Dr., You can taste definitely the difference.

Vodka may be distilled from any starch or sugar rich plant matter; such as sorghum, corn, rye, wheat, potatoes, molasses, soybeans, grapes, rice, or sugar beets. (to name just a few.)

So yes. It depends on the base it is made from and the number of filtrations it goes through. Oh. and of course the fancy bottle.

[GoodLife]

If you drink Vodka straight up you can tell the difference...but I agree you may not be able to discern a particular brand

If you read the link I posted above you will see that in their taste test they did straight up shots and then mixed vodka drinks. Either way they couldn't tell difference.

Besides, those who like to pay $60 for a pretty vodka bottle are actually amateur snobs.

The Most Expensive Vodkas of the World in 2017 | Bestvodka.net Vodka Brand & Recipes (http://bestvodka.net/most-expensive-vodkas-in-the-world/)

A shot glass of Billionaire Vodka costs more than your house.

[Bonny]

I hate it when they run out of the little umbrellas to stick in my drink. One would think they would give a discount when that happens, but sadly no.
Or comp my meal !!! :1rotfl::clap2:

[Bonny]

Its Soda not pop.
I vote for pop. :D Soda is the water you mix with scotch.

[Bonny]

Not sure about the law in Florida, but I owned a bar business in Massachusetts and it was illegal for me to go an by alcohol at a liquor store for resale in my bar. All alcohol had to be purchased through the distributor.
It was the same in Michigan.

[Rapscallion St Croix]

I vote for pop. :D Soda is the water you mix with scotch.

In the deep South, all soft drinks are called Cokes.

[Bonny]

In the deep South, all soft drinks are called Cokes.
We called the coke type pop, cola, but Coke was Coke. Pop was called what ever flavor it was. ;)

[Henryk]

I like vodka as much as the next gay, but I value smoothness, no burn. I also agree that if you mix it with anything then drink the cheapest you can find.

My preference, however is gin and I'm a Bombay guy. If it's good enough for the Queen of England, then darn it, it's good enough for me. Tasty botanicals. Don't, however, care for Bombay Sapphire--don't need the extra proof and it burns.

As long as I'm on my soap box, I like martinis. Asking for a vodka martini or a "hold the vermouth" martini are both oxymorons--just ask for gin or vodka on the rocks.

[Chatbrat]

And Winston Churchill drank Johnny Walker RED-we drink what we like

[dewilson58]

I like vodka as much as the next gay, but I value smoothness, no burn. I also agree that if you mix it with anything then drink the cheapest you can find.

My preference, however is gin and I'm a Bombay guy. If it's good enough for the Queen of England, then darn it, it's good enough for me. Tasty botanicals. Don't, however, care for Bombay Sapphire--don't need the extra proof and it burns.

As long as I'm on my soap box, I like martinis. Asking for a vodka martini or a "hold the vermouth" martini are both oxymorons--just ask for gin or vodka on the rocks.

Gin Guy here..............Not a Sapphire fan, the fruity tastes turn me off. Bombay Dry is much preferred. Try Booth's sometime, I was surprised. There is a Booth's "Sapphire type", not impressed. I don't want my glass to even see the vermouth bottle.

[Chatbrat]

We're not gin drinkers, but we drink Nolet gin for an after diner drink

[CWGUY]

We're not gin drinkers, but we drink Nolet gin for an after diner drink

:1rotfl:Nolets The Reserve Dry Gin 750ml (http://www.shopwinedirect.com/nolets-the-reserve-dry-gin-750ml.html?vfsku=cellar2218&vfsku=cellar2218&gpla=pla&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIr9mYwdGC2AIVz4SzCh1YrA0kEAYYAyAB EgIcZfD_BwE)

[Kenswing]

:1rotfl:Nolets The Reserve Dry Gin 750ml (http://www.shopwinedirect.com/nolets-the-reserve-dry-gin-750ml.html?vfsku=cellar2218&vfsku=cellar2218&gpla=pla&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIr9mYwdGC2AIVz4SzCh1YrA0kEAYYAyAB EgIcZfD_BwE)Couldn't have said it better... Yikes..

[GoodLife]

We're not gin drinkers, but we drink Nolet gin for an after diner drink

After "diner" drink, so you're saying that after you go to Darrels Diner, you enjoy a $500 Nolet?

[vintageogauge]

I was a vodka drinker for years and only drank Smirnoff's, not because of the taste tests that it won as I started well before those were taken. It is one of the few vodkas that does not give me a headache and I've tried most of them over the years. And yes, I have left restaurants that did not have it or I would just drink water. One that I went to was advertising that they had over 100 brands of vodka, this was around the time that Smirnoff was winning the taste tests and no, they did not have it, I left. When I drink I want to drink whatever I like, same with ordering food. Several times over the years I asked bars if they would start carrying Smirnoff's and at least two of them started and to this day still carry it, very popular brand.

[Bonny]

:1rotfl:Nolets The Reserve Dry Gin 750ml (http://www.shopwinedirect.com/nolets-the-reserve-dry-gin-750ml.html?vfsku=cellar2218&vfsku=cellar2218&gpla=pla&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIr9mYwdGC2AIVz4SzCh1YrA0kEAYYAyAB EgIcZfD_BwE)
I always enjoy a nice glass of this with my Jr. Whopper. :D

[CWGUY]

I always enjoy a nice glass of this with my Jr. Whopper. :D

:highfive:
That was you at Burger King? I'm the guy that asked if you had any Grey Poupon!:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[Rapscallion St Croix]

I always enjoy a nice glass of this with my Jr. Whopper. :D

You need to use Jr Whopper on the next oxymoron thread.

[Bonny]

:highfive:
That was you at Burger King? I'm the guy that asked if you had any Grey Poupon!:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:
:1rotfl::clap2:

[Bonny]

You need to use Jr Whopper on the next oxymoron thread.
:thumbup:

[Chi-Town]

Out of Grey Goose, Chopin & Belvedere--the bar person said their purveyor went out of business-no cash to go to ABC & buy a few bottles?All along I thought the purveyor was Kindred Spirits. Interesting.

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[Chi-Town]

We called the coke type pop, cola, but Coke was Coke. Pop was called what ever flavor it was. ;)Totally agree in my case also. But here is what I've found out moving to Florida
"Referring to the carbonated soft drink as a Coke (even if it’s not a Coca-Cola) is common in the southern states, soda is the term for it on the northeastern coast and pop is the word in the midwest."

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[perrjojo]

In the deep South, all soft drinks are called Cokes.
I’m from Texas. What would you like? Coke. What kind? Dr.Pepper.

[manaboutown]

Totally agree in my case also. But here is what I've found out moving to Florida
"Referring to the carbonated soft drink as a Coke (even if it’s not a Coca-Cola) is common in the southern states, soda is the term for it on the northeastern coast and pop is the word in the midwest."

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Here is a map showing soda, pop and coke usage.

The Pop vs. Soda Page (http://www.popvssoda.com)

When I was a teen I sold soft drinks at football games at a nearby college. I hollered "Soda Pop"... Usually I referred to all soft drinks as "cokes" while growing up in NM.

[Gpsma]

If you read the link I posted above you will see that in their taste test they did straight up shots and then mixed vodka drinks. Either way they couldn't tell difference.

Besides, those who like to pay $60 for a pretty vodka bottle are actually amateur snobs.

The Most Expensive Vodkas of the World in 2017 | Bestvodka.net Vodka Brand & Recipes (http://bestvodka.net/most-expensive-vodkas-in-the-world/)

A shot glass of Billionaire Vodka costs more than your house.

Drink a shot of Smirnoff and drink a shot of premium vodka and tell me if you cant tell a difference

[GoodLife]

We're not gin drinkers, but we drink Nolet gin for an after diner drink

Drink a shot of Smirnoff and drink a shot of premium vodka and tell me if you cant tell a difference

A Humble Old Label Ices Its Rivals

A Humble Old Label Ices Its Rivals - The New York Times (http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/26/dining/a-humble-old-label-ices-its-rivals.html)

You may be more of an expert than the panel the NY Times assembled for their taste test, but I doubt it.

[stan the man]

Close thread Way off subject

[ronsroni]

Why not go Low-Brow? Smirnoff beats Alexi any old day. Drive carefully on and off the course.

[kcrazorbackfan]

I am so glad I don't drink so I don't know the difference between "high end" and what? "Low end"? I don't damn people that do drink, unless they get drunk and do something stupid.

[manaboutown]

Although I rarely drink vodka on a trip to Russia I bought a fancy bottle of vodka. Twice I drank a couple ounces from it resulting in serious headaches so I poured it out but kept the bottle. So, there can be a difference IMHO.

[asianthree]

We have Belvedere and gray goose At our house. Since I drink it straight I can tell you for fact there’s a big difference between a five dollar bottle of vodka and a $25 bottle of vodka. Although I will say I don’t find gray goose or belvedere that expensive. And we say soda.

[Polar Bear]

...a five dollar bottle of vodka...
Where?!? Where!?! 😜

[GoodLife]

We have Belvedere and gray goose At our house. Since I drink it straight I can tell you for fact there’s a big difference between a five dollar bottle of vodka and a $25 bottle of vodka. Although I will say I don’t find gray goose or belvedere that expensive. And we say soda.

Great! I invite you, Chatbrat, Gpsma and others on this thread who are 100% sure they can tell the difference between vodkas to a taste test.

I will buy 3 bottles, a low priced brand like Smirnoff/Sobieski, mid priced like Titos/Stolli, and a premium brand like Grey Goose/Belvedere.

There will be three rounds of three shots each, served chilled, and in order to win you must correctly identify every shot. Win and you keep the bottles plus $100. Lose I keep the bottles plus $100 for every error in identification you make. Sounds harsh? You are the ones telling us you are positive you can tell the difference and we all rubes.

PM me for details.

[Mrs. Robinson]

You make me laugh out loud and spit my coffee.:clap2::1rotfl:

Well, I laugh so hard, it runs out of my nose.
:doh:

[Mrs. Robinson]

This provides an excellent opportunity for people to switch to pop.

Its Soda not pop.

But here I thought you werent a tea-totaller. I figured you for a straight up Manhattan kinda girl

It's pop. Little one.

You are correct, Gpsma.
It's definitely SODA.
:spoken:

[Chatbrat]

Chopin $44.95 for 1.75 from ABC online , delivered to their Lady Lake store-not expensive at all, now how many $10.00 , drinks do you think they get out of that bottle ? the bottle is shade over 59 fl oz--divided by 2 oz= close to 30 --30 x$10.00 $300.00--not to shabby a gross profit/bottle and @ happy hour its only $150//

[Mrs. Robinson]

Great! I invite you, Chatbrat, Gpsma and others on this thread who are 100% sure they can tell the difference between vodkas to a taste test.

I will buy 3 bottles, a low priced brand like Smirnoff/Sobieski, mid priced like Titos/Stolli, and a premium brand like Grey Goose/Belvedere.

There will be three rounds of three shots each, served chilled, and in order to win you must correctly identify every shot. Win and you keep the bottles plus $100. Lose I keep the bottles plus $100 for every error in identification you make. Sounds harsh? You are the ones telling us you are positive you can tell the difference and we all rubes.

PM me for details.

I cannot comment on anything related to vodka because . . .
Alas! I am a sour mash social drinker from way back.
Please don't hold that against me. ;)

I am sure that all of us who have participated in this thread, (except the writer of Thread #58), would like to know if anyone PMs you and of course -- what the results are of your "study."