What’s the story of these houses?

[twoplanekid]

I took this picture last year and then was going to ask about these four abandoned houses located north of 466 and south of the Polo fields. I don’t believe anything has changed since the picture was taken. What’s the story?

Dropbox - IMG_5667.JPG (https://www.dropbox.com/s/u6265ejy72senmw/IMG_5667.JPG?dl=0)

[villagetinker]

According to Google earth pro, these houses were not there 12/2008 and were there 12/2010.

[EPutnam1863]

I suspect some developer or contractor bought the area and then built these 4 spec houses only to go bankrupt or something.

Sometimes there is an advantage in being the first buyers because they choose the lots they want. yet there is also the risk that the developer may go bankrupt, and those first buyers are left isolated in the area.

[kansasr]

This was supposed to be a development called VILLAGE PARK ESTATE HOMES but except for those 3 partially built homes and the water system in the NW corner of that section, it never made it.

[Mrs. Robinson]

What a shame.
It has all the ingredients for being a very nice area and the infrastructure is already there.
I'm surprised Morse hasn't tried to buy it or if he has (my guess is he has tried), he probably wanted to steal it!

[twoplanekid]

A google search isn’t helping me much about what took place between 2008 through 2010 on this Village Park Center housing development. I did find “GetMoreOffers.com - Flat Fee MLS Listings (http://www.getmoreoffers.com) › Homes For Sale › Florida › Sumter county
Browse through The Villages MLS Listings and Sumter county homes for sale. ... The following MLS-Listed properties are located in The Villages, Florida. .... VILLAGE PARK CENTER at Hwy 466 & NE 62nd Terrace, The Villages, Fl.INDEPENDENT OF THE VILLAGES yet right in the heart of it's main Commercial Corridor ...

and a link to this dead end->Homes for sale in the VILLAGE PARK ESTATE subdivision | the villages, FL Real Estate (http://www.floridarealestateinmls.com/the_villages/VILLAGE_PARK_ESTATE/)

It’s about like a Chernobyl happened with everything remaining as it was after the event happened. It does look to be prime land to build on. I wonder what event took place and why nothing has changed?

Those living in The Villages during that time, do you remember what happened?

[circletrack]

Very interesting. I’d imagine that land would be quite valuable. Can’t believe it’s just sitting there.

[graciegirl]

A google search isn’t helping me much about what took place between 2008 through 2010 on this Village Park Center housing development. I did find “GetMoreOffers.com - Flat Fee MLS Listings (http://www.getmoreoffers.com) › Homes For Sale › Florida › Sumter county
Browse through The Villages MLS Listings and Sumter county homes for sale. ... The following MLS-Listed properties are located in The Villages, Florida. .... VILLAGE PARK CENTER at Hwy 466 & NE 62nd Terrace, The Villages, Fl.INDEPENDENT OF THE VILLAGES yet right in the heart of it's main Commercial Corridor ...

and a link to this dead end->Homes for sale in the VILLAGE PARK ESTATE subdivision | the villages, FL Real Estate (http://www.floridarealestateinmls.com/the_villages/VILLAGE_PARK_ESTATE/)

It’s about like a Chernobyl happened with everything remaining as it was after the event happened. It does look to be prime land to build on. I wonder what event took place and why nothing has changed?

Those living in The Villages during that time, do you remember what happened?

Please don't say Chernobyl. It will set people off.

My guess is that the property is available for sale and those who would be interested are not interested in paying what it is priced at. So the sellers are waiting and the buyers are moving on.....................

That is how I shop. How about you?

[Chi-Town]

Checked out Tradition in Port St Lucie in 2008. A developer had a large piece of land designated to be a 55 and over community. Four or five structures were built to represent the models to choose from. They looked like a home from the outside but were totally unfinished on the inside. They sat there all alone as the developer went bankrupt. The plan originally was to tear them down as the project advanced. Later that year saw the same thing at a WCI development in Sun City Center.

Could be the same story in twoplanes' photo. Anyhow, 2008 was a bad time for homebuilders in Florida, because the euphoria was still fresh when the crash hit. That's what is and still is amazing about The Villages; the developer has a visioned long term plan that that takes the risk out of buying and provides a future with little worry.




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[twoplanekid]

After breaking the lock on the chain across the road and ignoring the “No Trespassing Signs”, I was able to take the pictures of these houses per you request.
The houses have brick driveways, tile roofs and the insides are complete.

Actually, you can drive the roads with ease as there are no gates and didn’t see any “Private Property or No Trespassing “signs. And, no "For Sale Signs"

Outside of houses
Dropbox - IMG_0039.JPG (https://www.dropbox.com/s/lurn8a7etriv5tz/IMG_0039.JPG?dl=0)

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Dropbox - IMG_0047.JPG (https://www.dropbox.com/s/66meoebvcih1fut/IMG_0047.JPG?dl=0)

Dropbox - IMG_0049.JPG (https://www.dropbox.com/s/evce1u5pjqqacm9/IMG_0049.JPG?dl=0)

inside ->
https://www.dropbox.com/s/d0hbk395ow8rlu2/IMG_0044.JPG?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/kj54353kgqx04p6/IMG_0045.JPG?dl=0

Not sure my new Canon T7i picture is that much better than my old T2i that is going to my grandson. Oh well.

[EPutnam1863]

If there is a foreclosure or a bankruptcy, it can take forever and forever to cut through the red tape before releasing the property for sale. We once tried to buy a foreclosed property but after six months, we gave up and bought elsewhere. If you want to know who currently holds title, check land records. But if there is no address, then you will need to check the plat map book.

[EPutnam1863]

After breaking the lock on the chain across the road and ignoring the “No Trespassing Signs”, I was able to take the pictures of these houses per you request.
The houses have brick driveways, tile roofs and the insides are complete.

Actually, you can drive the roads with ease as there are no gates and didn’t see any “Private Property or No Trespassing “signs. And, no "For Sale Signs"

Outside of houses
Dropbox - IMG_0039.JPG (https://www.dropbox.com/s/lurn8a7etriv5tz/IMG_0039.JPG?dl=0)

Dropbox - IMG_0040.JPG (https://www.dropbox.com/s/5crzrffvlshqn4t/IMG_0040.JPG?dl=0)

Dropbox - IMG_0046.JPG (https://www.dropbox.com/s/mct0zmy8011nhq0/IMG_0046.JPG?dl=0)

Dropbox - IMG_0047.JPG (https://www.dropbox.com/s/66meoebvcih1fut/IMG_0047.JPG?dl=0)

Dropbox - IMG_0049.JPG (https://www.dropbox.com/s/evce1u5pjqqacm9/IMG_0049.JPG?dl=0)

inside ->
https://www.dropbox.com/s/d0hbk395ow8rlu2/IMG_0044.JPG?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/kj54353kgqx04p6/IMG_0045.JPG?dl=0

Not sure my new Canon T7i picture is that much better than my old T2i that is going to my grandson. Oh well.

0047 used to be a sales office. You can tell from the doors on what would be a garage door when sold.

[Nucky]

Maybe this is where the next several weeks of The Blacklist will be filmed. Nice job TPK. Sooner or later that will be part of The Villages.

Reminds me of that entire development in Southern Florida called Lehigh Acres. A whole lot of broken hearts and sad stories for sure, I hate when that happens to anyone. I was begged to go into several deals in Punta Gorda after the storm wiped the place clean. I declined because it just didn't feel like a good thing to do. The people who did snag some deals made a small fortune but like they say money isn't everything. Bad luck came at them all in ways that couldn't be imagined. Sad. Some people make money on others misfortune on a regular basis, some choose not to.

[kcrazorbackfan]

What a shame.
It has all the ingredients for being a very nice area and the infrastructure is already there.
I'm surprised Morse hasn't tried to buy it or if he has (my guess is he has tried), he probably wanted to steal it!

So really now, what you're saying that if you were trying to buy it, you would throw copious amounts of money after land, a home, a business, a vehicle, etc., etc. and try not to steal it? I thought so. Quit throwing shade at the developers.

[Hancle704]

Believe they were started by a developer who died in an accident. Guess his business folded up and nothing further has been done.

[pauld315]

I saw this happen to a lot of developments in 2008 in Myrtle Beach. Only now are some being built again. Could be a bankruptcy which has caused a foreclosure on the development, could be the development is in an estate battle etc. These things take forever.

[villagetinker]

Here is what I found on the Sumter County GIS:
The 4 houses are the first 3 items, one of the larger sections of undeveloped land is the last item. I did not bother to look at all of the individual sections.
Looks like multiple owners(?) which is probably why it sits undeveloped. (just my uninformed guess.)

Owner / Mailing Address:
FLORIDA CITIZENS BANK
11714 NE 62ND TERRACE, SUITE 400
THE VILLAGES, FL 32162
Street Address:
Sec/Twp/Rng: 15/18/23
Brief Description: TRACTS B H I J K L AND LOT 1 BLK A VILLAGE PARK CENTER PB 10 PGS 23A-23B LESS THAT PORTION OF TRACT H DESC AS: COMM AT SE COR OF
Land Use: VACANT COMMERCIAL (01000)
Neighborhood Code: 6480
Tax District: County (1001)
Sales:
8/30/2017 3307/679
Improved $100.00
12/1/2013 2773/115
Vacant $100.00


Owner / Mailing Address:
VILLAGE PARK ESTATE HOMES LLC
1100 S SR 7 STE 202
MARGATE, FL 33068
Street Address: 11810 NE 63RD DR
Sec/Twp/Rng: 15/18/23
Brief Description: LOT 11 A PORT OF TRACT H VILLAGE PARK CENTER PB 10 PGS 25-25A DESC AS COMM AT SE COR OF NE1/4 OF NW1/4 RUN S 69 DEG55'20 W 577.9
Land Use: VACANT RESIDENTIAL (00000)
Neighborhood Code: 6480
Tax District: County (1001)
Sales:
1/1/2009 2025/214
Vacant $100.00
10/1/2008 2008/537
Vacant $450,000.00


Owner / Mailing Address:
CITIMORTGAGE INC
1000 TECHNOLOGY DRIVE
O'FALLON, MO 63368
Street Address:
Sec/Twp/Rng: 15/18/23
Brief Description: LOT 9 A PORT OF TRACT H PB 10 PG 23 DESC AS COMM AT SE COROF NE 1/4 OF NW 1/4 RUN S 89 DEG 55 MIN 20 SEC W 577.99 FT N 00 DEG 04
Land Use: VACANT RESIDENTIAL (00000)
Neighborhood Code: 6480
Tax District: County (1001)
Sales:
12/3/2010 2261/81
Improved $0.00
10/1/2010 2239/507
Vacant $100.00


Owner / Mailing Address:
L & N LAND INVESTMENTS INC
PO BOX 250
LADY LAKE, FL 32158
Street Address:
Sec/Twp/Rng: 15/18/23
Brief Description: TRACTS G & P VILLAGE PARK CENTER PB 10 PG 23-23A LESS THAT PORT OF TRACT P DESC AS: COMM AT SE COR OF NE-+ OF NW-+ RUN S 89 DEG
Land Use: VACANT/ MISC BLDG (00700)
Neighborhood Code: 6480
Tax District: County (1001)
Sales:
1/1/2013 2558/476
Vacant $100.00
3/1/2008 1927/327
Vacant $7,125,000.00

[JoMar]

What a shame.
It has all the ingredients for being a very nice area and the infrastructure is already there.
I'm surprised Morse hasn't tried to buy it or if he has (my guess is he has tried), he probably wanted to steal it!

Wouldn"t you?

[Mleeja]

From the airial photo it does not look like there would be an easy connection to the existing streets. Cart access could be gained via Shady Lane, but vehicle access would at the Hampton Inn on 466. I think this area would be somewhat “isolated” from the rest of The Villages. Maybe the Morse’s just passed on this property.

[twoplanekid]

A lot of land not being used in the heart of TV with easy access to 466, next to baseball & Polo fields. I thank everyone for their help in trying to fill in parts of this story. I hope this land is able to be used sometime in the near future as it now looks forlorn and out of character for TV.

[Madelaine Amee]

Believe they were started by a developer who died in an accident. Guess his business folded up and nothing further has been done.

You could be on the right track here. I clearly remember the owner of the Hampton Inn on 466 having a terrible fatal accident in a fall from a crane. He was a young man and it could be that his wife put everything on hold.

This link will give more information: Fall Kills Developer At Villages Hotel Site - tribunedigital-orlandosentinel (http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2005-01-26/news/0501260116_1_steinmetz-lady-lake-dixie-highway)

[l2ridehd]

I recall that there was ROW issues with this property so the developer gave up and finally went bankrupt. I don't remember where that info came from, but it happened after we first bought here in 2008. So 2009 to 2010 would have been the timeframe.

It may have been that when the owner of the Hampton Inn died the ROW issues began.

[John_W]

If you like that neighborhood, about a 1/4 mile east on the same side of the street there is a home for sale for $3 million. It must be by the Morse family, it appears to be within their compound. It states the home was built in 1999 and includes 41 acres. It faces 466 directly across from Laurel Valley. I noticed it about 3 months ago and then forgot about it, and decided to see if it's still on the market, yes it is. Here's what you get.

11262 NE 72nd Blvd, Lady Lake, FL 32162

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https://photos.zillowstatic.com/p_f/ISu4jelso8m6jv1000000000.jpg

https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sale/The-Villages-FL/fsba,fsbo,new_lt/house,condo,mobile,land,townhouse_type/2093113144_zpid/7403_rid/globalrelevanceex_sort/28.92951,-81.979347,28.916945,-81.998574_rect/15_zm/

[Mikeod]

I still don't understand how breaking the lock on a chain is legal...........what am I missing?
(my earlier question about this was deleted)?
Maybe because he later said, “Actually, you can drive the roads with ease as there are no gates and didn’t see any “Private Property or No Trespassing “signs. And, no "For Sale Signs".

[graciegirl]

If you like that neighborhood, about a 1/4 mile east on the same side of the street there is a home for sale for $3 million. It must be by the Morse family, it appears to be within their compound. It states the home was built in 1999 and includes 41 acres. It faces 466 directly across from Laurel Valley. I noticed it about 3 months ago and then forgot about it, and decided to see if it's still on the market, yes it is. Here's what you get.

11262 NE 72nd Blvd, Lady Lake, FL 32162

https://photos.zillowstatic.com/p_h/IS2f0ls3c30bgu1000000000.jpg

https://photos.zillowstatic.com/p_f/ISy3x3bycfvehv1000000000.jpg

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11262 NE 72nd Blvd, Lady Lake, FL 32162 | MLS #522906 | Zillow (https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sale/The-Villages-FL/fsba,fsbo,new_lt/house,condo,mobile,land,townhouse_type/2093113144_zpid/7403_rid/globalrelevanceex_sort/28.92951,-81.979347,28.916945,-81.998574_rect/15_zm/)

Who are the
BUESCHER'S?

[Mrs. Robinson]

Wouldn"t you?

Give me the details and I'll give you an answer.
In a case such as this, a "steal" is in the eyes of the beholder.

You don't really think that a "steal" is looked upon the same way by the Morses and you or me, do you??? :shrug:

[graciegirl]

Give me the details and I'll give you an answer.
In a case such as this, a "steal" is in the eyes of the beholder.

You don't really think that a "steal" is looked upon the same way by the Morses and you or me, do you??? :shrug:

I think the Morses are very good business negotiators and are excellent at assessing what is a "fair price" for their margins and also skillful at not buying property that doesn't fit their price criteria.

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[Mrs. Robinson]

If you like that neighborhood, about a 1/4 mile east on the same side of the street there is a home for sale for $3 million. It must be by the Morse family, it appears to be within their compound. It states the home was built in 1999 and includes 41 acres. It faces 466 directly across from Laurel Valley. I noticed it about 3 months ago and then forgot about it, and decided to see if it's still on the market, yes it is. Here's what you get.


11262 NE 72nd Blvd, Lady Lake, FL 32162 | MLS #522906 | Zillow (https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sale/The-Villages-FL/fsba,fsbo,new_lt/house,condo,mobile,land,townhouse_type/2093113144_zpid/7403_rid/globalrelevanceex_sort/28.92951,-81.979347,28.916945,-81.998574_rect/15_zm/)

That isn't where Gary Morse lived when he was alive.
He didn't live in his own compound; he lived in a development of many homes.

[Mrs. Robinson]

I think the Morses are very good business negotiators and are excellent at assessing what is a "fair price" for their margins and also skillful at not buying property that doesn't fit their price criteria.

There is no question that the Morse family must be good negotiators, but I don't believe for a minute that the words "fair price" has ever been part of their vocabulary.

[graciegirl]

There is no question that the Morse family must be good negotiators, but I don't believe for a minute that the words "fair price" has ever been part of their vocabulary.

Perhaps I don't understand your meaning of "fair price".

I would expect them to drive hard bargains. It isn't a baby game and it isn't the government wasting money. It is free market negotiating.

Gary Morse lived for years just north of 466 in the Morse compound where his second wife Renee still owns the property and it can be found on sumterpa.com. When his first wife became very sick with cancer they lived in the Cottages near Lake Sumter Landing since it was all on one floor. Gary Morse died in Europe where he sought treatment for his cancer about three years ago. Harold Schwartz, Gary Morse's father lived in Hickory Head Hammock near Spanish Springs. Gary Morse's sister still lives and runs the old family business in Brownwood, Michigan still making and selling home made donuts and running the little store there. She has visited The Villages often but still prefers rural Michigan. This from a guest in our home who knew the Morse family in Michigan when she was young.(And speaks highly of them)

[Mrs. Robinson]

Perhaps I don't understand your meaning of "fair price".

I would expect them to drive hard bargains. It isn't a baby game and it isn't the government wasting money. It is free market negotiating.

Gary Morse lived for years just north of 466 in the Morse compound where his second wife Renee still owns the property and it can be found on sumterpa.com. When his first wife became very sick with cancer they lived in the Cottages near Lake Sumter Landing since it was all on one floor. Gary Morse died in Europe where he sought treatment for his cancer about three years ago. Harold Schwartz, Gary Morse's father lived in Hickory Head Hammock near Spanish Springs. Gary Morse's sister still lives and runs the old family business in Brownwood, Michigan still making and selling home made donuts and running the little store there. She has visited The Villages often but still prefers rural Michigan. This from a guest in our home who knew the Morse family in Michigan when she was young.(And speaks highly of them)


Who mentioned the government; where did that come from?

Please refer to Post #29. Gary Morse did not live in any Morse compound.

[graciegirl]

That isn't where Gary Morse lived when he was alive.
He didn't live in his own compound; he lived in a development of many homes.

The people who are listed as owning the property shown in the pictures above are named Beucher. That is who the owners are in sumterpa.com. I have never heard that name before.

Gary Morse did live in the area north of 466 and between Morse and Buena Vista. He lived in The Villages, just as his children and many grandchildren do.

[GoodLife]

There is no question that the Morse family must be good negotiators, but I don't believe for a minute that the words "fair price" has ever been part of their vocabulary.

LOL Any real estate transaction has a buyer and a seller. As long as neither has a gun in their hand, the price they agree on is a "fair price"

There is another side to the story, many big time developers use surrogates when buying property because if their name leaks out suddenly the price gets jacked up.

As far as I know, the Morse family buys their land the old fashioned way, by making an offer. If seller does not agree, they don't sell.

[John_W]

Originally Posted by Mrs. Robinson
He didn't live in his own compound; he lived in a development of many homes.

I did not post that it was formally Gary Morse's home, what I posted was, it is probably part of the Morse Compound. I believe they own 2700 acres in the center of TV, north of 466 and east of Saddlebrook softball fields and the polo field.

When Gary Morse was alive, his name was on 893 Southshore Lane in the Lake Shore Cottages, I believe there are 53 homes in that section. I stayed for a week there on our Lifestyle Visit in 2011, it's secluded, quiet but very close to the square. It's due east of the LSL Sales Office, they're the homes you see to your right as you cross the Morse Bridge southbound. 893 is now listed as being owned by Renee Morse. It was orginally sold in 2010 for $750K to H. Gary Morse, that's it circled in red on the map below.

http://sumterpa.com/gis_tmp/SumterPA151345930127528.jpg

Sumter County Property Appraiser (http://sumterpa.com/GIS/)

[villagetinker]

ALL,
In post #17 I posted the info from the Sumter County GIS, this indicates different owners for at least 4 of the plats that I checked, I did not check beyond that. So IMHO, it might be difficult to get all of the owners to agree to a buy out. This area does appear to have direct access of 466, and I am sure GC access could be arranged. Guessing, but from Google maps, it looks like some if not all of the necessary infrastructure was put in place.
I think it was mentioned before, this was around the time of the bubble bursting in the housing market, so I am guessing that is what caused the initial problems, and the current owners got the properties by default.

[2newyorkers]

Many years ago we noticed these homes and went and peered in the windows. At that time there were price stickers in the windows. I remember thinking that it was no surprise they could not sell these homes. They are really not very big and the price was the same as they wanted in TV for similar size. Why live there when you can live in TV?
There currently is a sign up on 466 that gives the impression they are going to build there

[graciegirl]

Many years ago we noticed these homes and went and peered in the windows. At that time there were price stickers in the windows. I remember thinking that it was no surprise they could not sell these homes. They are really not very big and the price was the same as they wanted in TV for similar size. Why live there when you can live in TV?
There currently is a sign up on 466 that gives the impression they are going to build there

I missed the sign. Is it near the hotel? Or is it in the space where they sell strawberries and stuff in between the hotel and the real estate building? A sign has been there for ages.

[GoodLife]

My point exactly. Op has yet to explain his actions.

Explain his actions? I think he already did. Took photo from his plane of 4 houses. Got curious and drove to see them in person. No gate, open road, took some more photos of empty houses and left.

[ColdNoMore]

Explain his actions? I think he already did. Took photo from his plane of 4 houses. Got curious and drove to see them in person. No gate, open road, took some more photos of empty houses and left.

Exactly. :oops:

It's strange seeing folks, who actually think there's something wrong with that. :ohdear:

[Chi-Town]

Chain.... no chain. Sign.... no sign. It ain't my property. It ain't my house. My ass has no right to be there and my nose has no right to be pressed up against the window taking pictures. It belongs to somebody and that somebody ain't him!

Is there any part of that that anyone needs explained better? :ohdear: Maybe (IMHO) the OP needs to get a job or get a hobby!The first part of his post seemed tongue in cheek. He went on to explain there were no barriers. No need to get so excited. Haven't you checked out a house under constuction? No harm, no foul. BTW, he has a hobby, flying.

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[CWGUY]

The first part of his post seemed tongue in cheek. He went on to explain there were no barriers. No need to get so excited. Haven't you checked out a house under constuction? No harm, no foul. BTW, he has a hobby, flying.

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[twoplanekid]

I do try to follow the rules as Coleman prison doesn’t look like a pleasant place to stay. However, it’s sometime difficult to follow even the simple rules found on this forum site to not have your post deleted.

It sure looks like any other public road that you would find in TV except no gates. Maybe I should not have peered in the window to take a picture as I have done many other times looking at houses for sale.

Every so often I do kid in such a way that only my brother would understand my joke. I broke no lock! I will try to be more definitive in the future. Everyone have a very good holiday season, wish that this property someday is successfully utilized and enjoy our time in TV.

[2newyorkers]

[QUOTE=graciegirl;1491133]I missed the sign. Is it near the hotel? Or is it in the space where they sell strawberries and stuff in between the hotel and the real estate building? A sign has been there for ages.[/QUOTE

Yes Gracie in that location. These signs looked different but as I age my memory fades also.

[justjim]

Maybe this is where the next several weeks of The Blacklist will be filmed. Nice job TPK. Sooner or later that will be part of The Villages.

Reminds me of that entire development in Southern Florida called Lehigh Acres. A whole lot of broken hearts and sad stories for sure, I hate when that happens to anyone. I was begged to go into several deals in Punta Gorda after the storm wiped the place clean. I declined because it just didn't feel like a good thing to do. The people who did snag some deals made a small fortune but like they say money isn't everything. Bad luck came at them all in ways that couldn't be imagined. Sad. Some people make money on others misfortune on a regular basis, some choose not to.

Generally true “no risk, no reward”. Money isn’t everything but like someone once said—it’s just ahead of whatever is in second place!

[Chi-Town]

I do try to follow the rules as Coleman prison doesn’t look like a pleasant place to stay. However, it’s sometime difficult to follow even the simple rules found on this forum site to not have your post deleted.

It sure looks like any other public road that you would find in TV except no gates. Maybe I should not have peered in the window to take a picture as I have done many other times looking at houses for sale.

Every so often I do kid in such a way that only my brother would understand my joke. I broke no lock! I will try to be more definitive in the future. Everyone have a very good holiday season, wish that this property someday is successfully utilized and enjoy our time in TV.You are our eyes in the sky and terra firma is OK by me too. Don't let a couple of curmudgeon posts deter you. You are much appreciated.

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[Mleeja]

I do try to follow the rules as Coleman prison doesn’t look like a pleasant place to stay. However, it’s sometime difficult to follow even the simple rules found on this forum site to not have your post deleted.

It sure looks like any other public road that you would find in TV except no gates. Maybe I should not have peered in the window to take a picture as I have done many other times looking at houses for sale.

Every so often I do kid in such a way that only my brother would understand my joke. I broke no lock! I will try to be more definitive in the future. Everyone have a very good holiday season, wish that this property someday is successfully utilized and enjoy our time in TV.

:a20: Who among us hasn’t has a post deleted now and then?

[graciegirl]

[QUOTE=graciegirl;1491133]I missed the sign. Is it near the hotel? Or is it in the space where they sell strawberries and stuff in between the hotel and the real estate building? A sign has been there for ages.[/QUOTE

Yes Gracie in that location. These signs looked different but as I age my memory fades also.

I looked for it today as I went by.

[EPutnam1863]

:confused: Really.... you find that strange? What if it were your property? What if a nose was pressed against a window your family was on the other side of? What if.... what if....

What if everyone got to decide what laws and rules were to be followed and when they needed to be followed and when they didn't need to be followed? Today it's ok to trespass because I'm curious and tomorrow maybe we can discuss assault, because I would like to knock some common sense into a few people. :shrug: What do you think? What law or rule can we sidestep the next day?:oops: And don't say speeding and stop signs.... they've already been done!

I think all and every unoccupied property should be checked every once in a while to make sure there has been no crime committed somewhere on the property.

[justjim]

Thanks OP for pointing out this property. I’m sure from the air it’s much easier to find a “mystery” piece of land such as this. I’ve passed by the Hampton Inn many times and often wondered what was in the area north of there and why it hadn’t been developed.

My instinct is to follow “the rules” as learned from my father at a young age. Occasionally strayed, when it seemed appropriate and it didn’t hurt anybody, but those times were very rare. I remember a quote “If you obey all the rules you miss all the fun”. Anonymous. Fore!

[Nucky]

You never know what you may see when looking thru a window. Me personally no problemo with what TPK did at all. I would have done the same thing. That being said.

Within the last month, a neighbor who seems fine but chooses to speak and look at no one passed away in his home in my neighborhood. A seasonal neighbor who helped this man when he was in trouble once came down for a few weeks and noticed he had seen no movement whatsoever at this private mans home. He decided to open the door and found he was dead. It was not a good scene. Seasoned officers were coming out of the residence saying they never saw anything like it. We noticed one circular in his driveway for three weeks and we talked about making a call to community watch or knocking on his door but decided instead to respect his privacy. Who knows maybe we could have saved him. It is a tough call to make. No one is qualified to judge us or TPK unless they have a badge on. Otherwise, it is just the ramblings of wannabee Barney Fife. I'm sorry I didn't look but that ship has sailed.

I love the pictures that TPK gives to us, it is a beautiful thing, Thank You.

[LI SNOWBIRD]

I took this picture last year and then was going to ask about these four abandoned houses located north of 466 and south of the Polo fields. I don’t believe anything has changed since the picture was taken. What’s the story?

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did you take the pics from The Cub?

[twoplanekid]

did you take the pics from The Cub?

Yes, from the Cub.

A picture of me in the Cub looking the wrong way at the Leesburg Airport EAA Young Eagle day on Saturday->

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More about the EAA Young Eagle program -> EAA Young Eagles Program | EAA (https://www.eaa.org/en/eaa/aviation-education-and-resources/eaa-youth-education/eaa-young-eagles-program)

I took the latest pictures of Fenney on the flight back to Inverness.

[Nucky]

i am surpriseed u couldnt smell him! very sad we get to the age NOBODY in the world cared about him,,, americans friendly hometown!

He made a choice long before most of us even heard of The Villages. He did not want contact with anyone except for the seasonal neighbor who helped him get his Golf Cart out of a bush that he drove it into one night years ago. So out of many, he chose one. I'm in the same neighborhood as this gentleman and it is Americas Friendliest Hometown with a blip here and there. As of today, I wouldn't trade it for the world.

[cvmullin]

I know something about this property. It is owned by Jonathan and Susan Dean who own the Cebert Wealth building. The land was platted for half residential use and half commercial use. The property has its own well and sewer plant. The residential property was platted for individual lots. The developer chose to ignore the agreed upon platting and build the houses instead where they currently exist. So no Certificate of Occupancy is going to be granted. Jonathan has the property up for sale and I saw a sign for CORE, INC go up the other week. Looks like CORE is going to develop the commercial side. Someone with deeper pockets than mine could buy the residential side and have it rezoned to commercial to make use of the land. personally I wouldn't want to live in a house next to a hotel and commercial businesses. I always thought that was a weird place to put houses.
Carl Mullin, CPR Real Estate Solutions, LLC , Village of Winifred

[twoplanekid]

I know something about this property. It is owned by Jonathan and Susan Dean who own the Cebert Wealth building. The land was platted for half residential use and half commercial use. The property has its own well and sewer plant. The residential property was platted for individual lots. The developer chose to ignore the agreed upon platting and build the houses instead where they currently exist. So no Certificate of Occupancy is going to be granted. Jonathan has the property up for sale and I saw a sign for CORE, INC go up the other week. Looks like CORE is going to develop the commercial side. Someone with deeper pockets than mine could buy the residential side and have it rezoned to commercial to make use of the land. personally I wouldn't want to live in a house next to a hotel and commercial businesses. I always thought that was a weird place to put houses.
Carl Mullin, CPR Real Estate Solutions, LLC , Village of Winifred

Thanks for the great insight to this property. As to your statement” personally I wouldn’t want to live in a house next to a hotel and businesses”, we will have to wait and see how this looks to current residents of Alden Bungalows when completed.

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