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Rockyrd
12-16-2017, 09:01 PM
In reading this evening there appears to be almost a desperation in tweets and statements from the WH and its surrogates.
They are lobbing charges galore, almost all considered normal practice in investigations but being lobbed as if it were wrong.
Almost as if they are trying to stir up the Fox folks and the subs who still support this administration. If nothing, I apologize, but tonight and this weekend, they appear to be in a frenzy, and with the lawyers from the investigative body scheduling a meeting with Trump lawyers for early next week, just wondering anyone else might have wind of anything.
Kenswing
12-16-2017, 09:06 PM
Something is always about to happen.. Or it could just be NOTHING.
Allegiance
12-16-2017, 09:08 PM
In reading this evening there appears to be almost a desperation in tweets and statements from the WH and its surrogates.
They are lobbing charges galore, almost all considered normal practice in investigations but being lobbed as if it were wrong.
Almost as if they are trying to stir up the Fox folks and the subs who still support this administration. If nothing, I apologize, but tonight and this weekend, they appear to be in a frenzy, and with the lawyers from the investigative body scheduling a meeting with Trump lawyers for early next week, just wondering anyone else might have wind of anything.No #metoo today?
mellincf
12-16-2017, 09:25 PM
Fox entertainers are frothing at the mouth the closer this Russian investigation gets to the White House. Fox needs to be investigated, they no longer even pretend to be even handed, they are full on state sponsored propaganda. The only recourse we have is to pressure the advertisers.
“Consider how amazing it is that the President of the United States is attacking, over and over again, the Attorney General, the Justice Department, the FBI––calling them biased, calling them incompetent, saying ‘a lot of people’ are upset about it. You know who ‘a lot of people’ are? ‘A lot of people’ are the people who watch Fox News. Other than that, a lot of people are actually not upset about this investigation. That’s shown over and over again in the polls.”
Allegiance
12-16-2017, 09:26 PM
Fox entertainers are frothing at the mouth the closer this Russian investigation gets to the White House. Fox needs to be investigated, they no longer even pretend to be an even handed operated medium, they are full on state sponsored propaganda. The only recourse we have is to pressure the advertisers.
“Consider how amazing it is that the President of the United States is attacking, over and over again, the Attorney General, the Justice Department, the FBI––calling them biased, calling them incompetent, saying ‘a lot of people’ are upset about it. You know who ‘a lot of people’ are? ‘A lot of people’ are the people who watch Fox News. Other than that, a lot of people are actually not upset about this investigation. That’s shown over and over again in the polls.”Are you at all aware of the facts?
Obama Clinton DNC FBI et al conspiracy?
Duh
Rockyrd
12-16-2017, 09:31 PM
Fox entertainers are frothing at the mouth the closer this Russian investigation gets to the White House. Fox needs to be investigated, they no longer even pretend to be even handed, they are full on state sponsored propaganda. The only recourse we have is to pressure the advertisers.
“Consider how amazing it is that the President of the United States is attacking, over and over again, the Attorney General, the Justice Department, the FBI––calling them biased, calling them incompetent, saying ‘a lot of people’ are upset about it. You know who ‘a lot of people’ are? ‘A lot of people’ are the people who watch Fox News. Other than that, a lot of people are actually not upset about this investigation. That’s shown over and over again in the polls.”
They don't even report about the Russian "invasion".
They are desperately stuck still on Clinton as if that has any relationship to anything.
They also keep having unqualified guests to discuss things they don't even understand. And notice, not much of dual guests representing two sides any longer.
A very real sense of desperation.
Rockyrd
12-16-2017, 09:35 PM
Are you at all aware of the facts?
Obama Clinton DNC FBI et al conspiracy?
Duh
Yes.....VERY MUCH AWARE.
They are now charging the FBI for doing their job......they just keep attacking the United States while the President calls Putin to thank him for saying nice things about HIM.
That sounds like a novel, but is true. What they are saying on Fox is basically, next war, each political party fights seperately.
The FBI has ONE political appointee.....all others are honest hard working agents AS THEY HAVE ALWAYS BEEN.
mellincf
12-16-2017, 09:43 PM
Are you at all aware of the facts?
Obama Clinton DNC FBI et al conspiracy?
Duh
Mueller is a longtime Republican who was appointed FBI director by George W. Bush. He was named special counsel by Rod J. Rosenstein, also a Republican, who was appointed by Trump himself to be deputy attorney general. Comey, a Republican who served in Bush’s Justice Department, made political contributions to John McCain, Mitt Romney and other Republicans. Wray, the current FBI Director, is a Republican who also gave to GOP candidates, was appointed by Trump.
Do you see a "Democrat" conspiracy here?
billethkid
12-16-2017, 09:50 PM
Mueller is a longtime Republican who was appointed FBI director by George W. Bush. He was named special counsel by Rod J. Rosenstein, also a Republican, who was appointed by Trump himself to be deputy attorney general. Comey, a Republican who served in Bush’s Justice Department, made political contributions to John McCain, Mitt Romney and other Republicans. Wray, the current FBI Director, is a Republican who also gave to GOP candidates, was appointed by Trump.
Do you see a "Democrat" conspiracy here?
And the point is what?
It simply shows that it does not matter what the party participation is....what does matter across the board is whether they are the establishment. The establishment have the most to lose as/if or when Trump succeeds!!
Allegiance
12-16-2017, 10:01 PM
Mueller is a longtime Republican who was appointed FBI director by George W. Bush. He was named special counsel by Rod J. Rosenstein, also a Republican, who was appointed by Trump himself to be deputy attorney general. Comey, a Republican who served in Bush’s Justice Department, made political contributions to John McCain, Mitt Romney and other Republicans. Wray, the current FBI Director, is a Republican who also gave to GOP candidates, was appointed by Trump.
Do you see a "Democrat" conspiracy here?That is the new party line.... but they are Republicans.
That's all you got now?
Bog99
12-16-2017, 11:39 PM
In reading this evening there appears to be almost a desperation in tweets and statements from the WH and its surrogates.
They are lobbing charges galore, almost all considered normal practice in investigations but being lobbed as if it were wrong.
Almost as if they are trying to stir up the Fox folks and the subs who still support this administration. If nothing, I apologize, but tonight and this weekend, they appear to be in a frenzy, and with the lawyers from the investigative body scheduling a meeting with Trump lawyers for early next week, just wondering anyone else might have wind of anything.
Oooooo... everyone's all a twitter and fluttering eyelashes about "something".... another something of Femo-Fascist tripe from the Kardashian school of journalism.
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Rockyrd
12-17-2017, 08:00 AM
A banner across the screen on FOX while speaking of the Mueller investigation...
"A coup in America?"
To that Evan McMullen, much more polite than I could be tweets.....
“A coup in America?” This is incredibly irresponsible rhetoric. It’s no surprise that the same network that still denies Russian interference for Trump, also uses this kind of language to describe law enforcement efforts to uphold the law and our sovereignty."
Taltarzac725
12-17-2017, 08:03 AM
A banner across the screen on FOX while speaking of the Mueller investigation...
"A coup in America?"
To that Evan McMullen, much more polite than I could be tweets.....
“A coup in America?” This is incredibly irresponsible rhetoric. It’s no surprise that the same network that still denies Russian interference for Trump, also uses this kind of language to describe law enforcement efforts to uphold the law and our sovereignty."
That is very frightening.
Don Baldwin
12-17-2017, 08:07 AM
A banner across the screen on FOX while speaking of the Mueller investigation...
"A coup in America?"
To that Evan McMullen, much more polite than I could be tweets.....
“A coup in America?” This is incredibly irresponsible rhetoric. It’s no surprise that the same network that still denies Russian interference for Trump, also uses this kind of language to describe law enforcement efforts to uphold the law and our sovereignty."
Against men...white men...it's happening.
dirtbanker
12-17-2017, 08:09 AM
A banner across the screen on FOX while speaking of the Mueller investigation...
"A coup in America?"
To that Evan McMullen, much more polite than I could be tweets.....
“A coup in America?” This is incredibly irresponsible rhetoric. It’s no surprise that the same network that still denies Russian interference for Trump, also uses this kind of language to describe law enforcement efforts to uphold the law and our sovereignty."
I believe FOX put that banner up just to get your juices flowing. Possibly they have a camera in your TV, so they can watch and laugh at you.
BTW are you the fag that dances with his purse dog at the square? You two were dancing up a storm last night at Scooters show!
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Allegiance
12-17-2017, 08:11 AM
That is very frightening.Frightening, not a word normal men use in this context.
Tal buddy, become a man start with a JOB
Rockyrd
12-17-2017, 08:12 AM
Coup?!
This is alarmingly irresponsible language, even for Fox. Inflammatory. Baseless. Dangerous.
Don Baldwin
12-17-2017, 08:28 AM
Coup?!
This is alarmingly irresponsible language, even for Fox. Inflammatory. Baseless. Dangerous.
Said by a woman...who WANTS it!
You're such deceptive (unts.
Rockyrd
12-17-2017, 09:40 AM
"The chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee says he is worried that President Trump has not issued an “outright condemnation” of Russia for meddling in the 2016 election.
Rep. Michael McCaul (R-Texas), who was widely viewed as a contender for Trump’s secretary of Homeland Security, told The Hill in a sit-down interview that he has told the administration the president needs to “more forcefully” stand up to Moscow.
But, nearly one year into Trump’s administration, McCaul’s appeal has gone unanswered."
“I think there is a lot of, for whatever reason, avoidance of the issue, or saying that it could have been some other country. When you look at the intelligence, it is very clear the attribution goes directly to the Kremlin,” McCaul said. “That worries me.”
Trump has at times cast doubt on the intelligence community’s assessment that Russia sought to interfere in the election. He has also lashed out at the special counsel investigation into whether his campaign coordinated with Moscow, calling it a “witch hunt.”
GOP chairman worried by Trump's stance on Russian interference | TheHill (http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/365168-gop-chairman-worried-by-trumps-stance-on-russian-interference)
"Meanwhile, Trump has sought warmer ties with Vladimir Putin to handle problems like the Syrian civil war and North Korea’s nuclear program. Trump signaled briefly last month that he believed the Russian president when he told him Moscow did not meddle in the election.
The developments have baffled some in the GOP who want to see Trump take a harder line, particularly when it comes to election interference.
“Russia is not going to stop their bad behavior unless there are consequences to it,” McCaul said. “I haven’t seen any consequences, and I fully anticipate in 2018 and certainly the next presidential election that they’ll be trying to do the same thing. And I think we need to be prepared for that.”
And the sanctions passed by the United States Senate 98-2 remain unenforced.
Rockyrd
12-17-2017, 09:46 AM
An opinion piece to be sure, but based on undeniable facts.....
"Cases in point: The president still does not fully accept the verdict of his intelligence agencies that Russia interfered in the election. He told Bill O’Reilly that America’s behavior was no better than Putin’s. His attorney general admitted to Congress that the administration had “probably not” taken sufficient measures to prevent future Russian meddling in elections. He explored ways to return two Russian diplomatic compounds in the United States long used for spying until they were seized by the Obama administration.
It continues: He spent the first five months in office resisting efforts to get him to publicly avow NATO’s mutual-defense commitments. He sought an “impenetrable cybersecurity unit” with Moscow until Lindsey Graham dismissed it as “pretty close” to “the dumbest idea I’ve ever heard.” He fiercely resisted congressional efforts to impose additional sanctions on Russia; was “apoplectic” when they passed; and would have vetoed the legislation if it weren’t certain he’d be overridden. He ended American support for anti-regime moderates in Syria, paving the way for the Assad regime — and thus its Russian helpers — to consolidate their grip.
Presented with this list, the president’s craven apologists insist he’s right to try to find common ground with Russia. These are the same people who until recently were in full throat against Barack Obama for his overtures to Putin. More measured apologists say he’s merely naïve, just as Obama and Bush were at the beginning of their terms. Yet the alleged naïveté never quits: Just this week, he asked for Putin’s help on North Korea.
The better explanations are: (a) the president is infatuated with authoritarians, at least those who flatter him; (b) he’s neurotically neuralgic when it comes to the subject of his election; (c) he’s ideologically sympathetic to Putinism, with its combination of economic corporatism, foreign-policy cynicism, and violent hostility to critics; (d) he’s stupid; or (e) he’s vulnerable to Russian blackmail.
Each explanation is compatible with all the others. For my part, I choose all of the above — the first four points being demonstrable while the last is logical. But let’s have that conversation at another time. There’s no need to obsess about electoral collusion when the real issue is moral capitulation." ☐
The Real Russia Scandal - The New York Times (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/15/opinion/russia-trump-putin.html)
Allegiance
12-17-2017, 09:48 AM
An opinion piece to be sure, but based on undeniable facts.....
"Cases in point: The president still does not fully accept the verdict of his intelligence agencies that Russia interfered in the election. He told Bill O’Reilly that America’s behavior was no better than Putin’s. His attorney general admitted to Congress that the administration had “probably not” taken sufficient measures to prevent future Russian meddling in elections. He explored ways to return two Russian diplomatic compounds in the United States long used for spying until they were seized by the Obama administration.
It continues: He spent the first five months in office resisting efforts to get him to publicly avow NATO’s mutual-defense commitments. He sought an “impenetrable cybersecurity unit” with Moscow until Lindsey Graham dismissed it as “pretty close” to “the dumbest idea I’ve ever heard.” He fiercely resisted congressional efforts to impose additional sanctions on Russia; was “apoplectic” when they passed; and would have vetoed the legislation if it weren’t certain he’d be overridden. He ended American support for anti-regime moderates in Syria, paving the way for the Assad regime — and thus its Russian helpers — to consolidate their grip.
Presented with this list, the president’s craven apologists insist he’s right to try to find common ground with Russia. These are the same people who until recently were in full throat against Barack Obama for his overtures to Putin. More measured apologists say he’s merely naïve, just as Obama and Bush were at the beginning of their terms. Yet the alleged naïveté never quits: Just this week, he asked for Putin’s help on North Korea.
The better explanations are: (a) the president is infatuated with authoritarians, at least those who flatter him; (b) he’s neurotically neuralgic when it comes to the subject of his election; (c) he’s ideologically sympathetic to Putinism, with its combination of economic corporatism, foreign-policy cynicism, and violent hostility to critics; (d) he’s stupid; or (e) he’s vulnerable to Russian blackmail.
Each explanation is compatible with all the others. For my part, I choose all of the above — the first four points being demonstrable while the last is logical. But let’s have that conversation at another time. There’s no need to obsess about electoral collusion when the real issue is moral capitulation." ☐
The Real Russia Scandal - The New York Times (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/15/opinion/russia-trump-putin.html)Undeniable... lol
dirtbanker
12-17-2017, 09:52 AM
"The chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee says he is worried that President Trump has not issued an “outright condemnation” of Russia for meddling in the 2016 election.
Rep. Michael McCaul (R-Texas), who was widely viewed as a contender for Trump’s secretary of Homeland Security, told The Hill in a sit-down interview that he has told the administration the president needs to “more forcefully” stand up to Moscow.
But, nearly one year into Trump’s administration, McCaul’s appeal has gone unanswered."
“I think there is a lot of, for whatever reason, avoidance of the issue, or saying that it could have been some other country. When you look at the intelligence, it is very clear the attribution goes directly to the Kremlin,” McCaul said. “That worries me.”
Trump has at times cast doubt on the intelligence community’s assessment that Russia sought to interfere in the election. He has also lashed out at the special counsel investigation into whether his campaign coordinated with Moscow, calling it a “witch hunt.”
GOP chairman worried by Trump's stance on Russian interference | TheHill (http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/365168-gop-chairman-worried-by-trumps-stance-on-russian-interference)
"Meanwhile, Trump has sought warmer ties with Vladimir Putin to handle problems like the Syrian civil war and North Korea’s nuclear program. Trump signaled briefly last month that he believed the Russian president when he told him Moscow did not meddle in the election.
The developments have baffled some in the GOP who want to see Trump take a harder line, particularly when it comes to election interference.
“Russia is not going to stop their bad behavior unless there are consequences to it,” McCaul said. “I haven’t seen any consequences, and I fully anticipate in 2018 and certainly the next presidential election that they’ll be trying to do the same thing. And I think we need to be prepared for that.”
And the sanctions passed by the United States Senate 98-2 remain unenforced.
I have a Russian friend, he has an EFIS company. Russian Standard vodka and Russian caviar are very good.
You should be a little more culturally diverse...
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