Anyone know if the homes in Fenney are built using metal studs?

[I Tango]

We're moving into our frame and vinyl courtyard villa in Jan. and was wondering if anyone knows if metal studs are used anywhere in the construction?

I'm a northerner and never had to deal with metal. Here to hang something I just screw in a plastic molly in drywall, or if I hit a stud I drill and put a screw in it.

But how do you hang things if you run into a metal stud. Do you just drill through. I'm assuming special drill bits are needed? Then what kind of fastener do you use? Do you have to use toggles or can you still screw in a molly or something?

Sorry for the dumb questions, but this is all new to us northerners and I'm trying to figure out what tools etc I need to bring.

[villagetinker]

OP, you can contact Sumter County building department to get the exact plans for your house, which will show where metal studs are used. As for mounting items to these studs, I have used small pilot drills and then sheet metal screws. Do NOT use plastic expanding inserts as these will get cutoff at the metal stud and may not provide the holding power you need, I know this from experience. Toggle bolts, or the metal expansion types can also be used. There are several people (handymen) that have a lot of experience in this area if you have an especially heavy item.
On a side note, double check the closet wire racks if you decide to keep these, only about 25% of the mounts and supports where into studs (metal), and I had to redo all of the mountings. This is where I had the problem with the plastic insets getting cutoff.
Hope this helps.

[bagboy]

We're moving into our frame and vinyl courtyard villa in Jan. and was wondering if anyone knows if metal studs are used anywhere in the construction?

I'm a northerner and never had to deal with metal. Here to hang something I just screw in a plastic molly in drywall, or if I hit a stud I drill and put a screw in it.

But how do you hang things if you run into a metal stud. Do you just drill through. I'm assuming special drill bits are needed? Then what kind of fastener do you use? Do you have to use toggles or can you still screw in a molly or something?

Sorry for the dumb questions, but this is all new to us northerners and I'm trying to figure out what tools etc I need to bring.


You can hang pictures, mirrors, tv's etc. by avoiding the studs and using Snap Toggle bolts. There are various sizes available and some are rated for heavy weight. My 46 inch tv is mounted using these bolts and they hold up to 165 lbs. YouTube has "how to" videos.

[BRN_RI_FL]

For light to medium weight hangings, I just use monkey hooks. Amazon has a kit for various weights. They’re cheap and I’ve never had a problem.

[Mrs. Robinson]

All homes in The Villages are built with metal studs.
We like the sturdiness of wood studs (among other reasons) and when we had our house built, we paid extra for wood.
Personally, I have never like metal studs; one reason is that the outlets eventually become loose.

I have heard others say negative things about wood such as in a fire or regarding termites, but wood wins no matter what.
If you have a fire, the house will still burn and if termites are a possibility, no matter what -- you will still get them!
If you have a choice -- go with wood!

[rubicon]

All homes in The Villages are built with metal studs.
We like the sturdiness of wood studs (among other reasons) and when we had our house built, we paid extra for wood.
Personally, I have never like metal studs; one reason is that the outlets eventually become loose.

I have heard others say negative things about wood such as in a fire or regarding termites, but wood wins no matter what.
If you have a fire, the house will still burn and if termites are a possibility, no matter what -- you will still get them!
If you have a choice -- go with wood!

Mrs Robinson I have four loose outlets that support your conclusion.

We purchased in 2006 and it was use it or lose it. Use the opportunity to buy or will sell it to the next couple in line.

consequently I didn't even know they used metal studs until I hit one one day

I wish I hd the option to build to my specs back then

[vintageogauge]

[QUOTE=Mrs. Robinson;1492231]All homes in The Villages are built with metal studs.
We like the sturdiness of wood studs (among other reasons) and when we had our house built, we paid extra for wood.
Personally, I have never like metal studs; one reason is that the outlets eventually become loose.


All homes are NOT built with metal studs in TV. You can drive around Fenney and see that most are wood.

[New Englander]

All homes in The Villages are built with metal studs.
We like the sturdiness of wood studs (among other reasons) and when we had our house built, we paid extra for wood.
Personally, I have never like metal studs; one reason is that the outlets eventually become loose.

I have heard others say negative things about wood such as in a fire or regarding termites, but wood wins no matter what.
If you have a fire, the house will still burn and if termites are a possibility, no matter what -- you will still get them!
If you have a choice -- go with wood!

I learn something new every day. I had no idea my little patio villa had metal studs. I got a TV wall mount coming from Amazon to use on my TV in my bedroom. I was hoping to anchor the tv mount to a stud. Now I have to avoid studs.
Thanks for the info.

[John_W]

I mounted a TV in the guest BR last summer on the wall using this bracket which only required one stud. It holds TV's up to 55" but my TV was only 42". I found there is a combination of wood and metal in my CYV built in 2011.

Near the top edge of the closet door was metal, but about 18" above the closet my stud finder found wood. I mounted the TV there, but was maybe a foot higher than I liked. Then when I went to bury the wires using a kit I bought from Home Depot, I found metal studs to the right side of the closet after I had made the circle hole and ran my arm down the wall a bit. I was able to move the wires a little higher and missed the studs. It came out pretty good and the wall mounting bracket was only $26 plus free shipping on Amazon.

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/81oUeAHBypL._SL1500_.jpg

Amazon.com: Mounting Dream MD2377 TV Wall Mount Bracket for most of 26-55 Inch LED, LCD, OLED Flat Screen TV with Full Motion Swivel Articulating Arm up to VESA 400x400mm and 60 lbs with Tilting: Cell Phones & Accessories (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00QOOZ4DE/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)

If you have doubts you can always call Villages AV, I used them to help with my attic antenna when I had trouble finding the right cables from the Directv cables. They are pros at mounting TV's and burying wires.

Home Audio Video Sales & Installation in The Villages, Florida (https://villagerav.com/)

[graciegirl]

Homes are built with metal studs and wood studs here in The Villages.. They are built to code. I think they are built well. We have had seven homes built for us in our life including our first home when we were 22 and 23. We had been working for four years and saved the down payment.

I do not know why there are a couple of people who always, always, want to say negative things about this place.

Merry Christmas and Happy Hanukka.

I spelled that wrong but my heart means kind wishes.

[graciegirl]

[QUOTE=Mrs.


All homes are NOT built with metal studs in TV. You can drive around Fenney and see that most are wood.

You are ABSOLUTELY AND COMPLETELY right.

We have wood studs and I have pictures of them while they built it.

[HiHoSteveO]

I learn something new every day. I had no idea my little patio villa had metal studs. I got a TV wall mount coming from Amazon to use on my TV in my bedroom. I was hoping to anchor the tv mount to a stud. Now I have to avoid studs.
Thanks for the info.

My four year old designer home has both metal and wood studs. Criteria unknown, but it seems longer spans of wallboard get metal and areas needing more strength get wood.
Mount your TV wherever you want it.
If you center on a wood stud, perfect! If hollow wall or metal stud just drill through and use "Toggler Snaptoggle." Strongest and easiest I've ever used. Two sizes available locally at both Home Depot and Lowes.

Toggler Snaptoggle | Anchor Bolts,Toggle Bolt, Toggle Bolts (http://www.toggler.com/products/snaptoggle/overview.php)

(I just noticed that post #3 by Bagboy already mentioned these. Sorry Bagboy.)

[villagetinker]

I learn something new every day. I had no idea my little patio villa had metal studs. I got a TV wall mount coming from Amazon to use on my TV in my bedroom. I was hoping to anchor the tv mount to a stud. Now I have to avoid studs.
Thanks for the info.

Do not avoid the metal stud, it is stronger than just drywall, just use the proper mounting technique. The molly bolt or toggle bolt are very good for metal studs if you are concerned a sheet metal screw will not work, especially for something heavy like a TV mount.
You can also contact the TV audio visual company (advertiser) and have them to the install.
I have a 70 inch TV on our wall, I bought a mount that was wide enough to catch 3 studs, used 2 screws per METAL stud, works great. Send a PM with your phone number if you would like to discuss further.

[tuccillo]

Yes, I believe you are correct. I believe the load bearing walls are framed with wood and the non load bearing walls are framed with metal. The advantage of the metal studs is that they run true.

My four year old designer home has both metal and wood studs. Criteria unknown, but it seems longer spans of wallboard get metal and areas needing more strength get wood.
Mount your TV wherever you want it.
If you center on a wood stud, perfect! If hollow wall or metal stud just drill through and use "Toggler Snaptoggle." Strongest and easiest I've ever used. Two sizes available locally at both Home Depot and Lowes.

Toggler Snaptoggle | Anchor Bolts,Toggle Bolt, Toggle Bolts (http://www.toggler.com/products/snaptoggle/overview.php)

[New Englander]

I mounted a TV in the guest BR last summer on the wall using this bracket which only required one stud. It holds TV's up to 55" but my TV was only 42". I found there is a combination of wood and metal in my CYV built in 2011.

Near the top edge of the closet door was metal, but about 18" above the closet my stud finder found wood. I mounted the TV there, but was maybe a foot higher than I liked. Then when I went to bury the wires using a kit I bought from Home Depot, I found metal studs to the right side of the closet after I had made the circle hole and ran my arm down the wall a bit. I was able to move the wires a little higher and missed the studs. It came out pretty good and the wall mounting bracket was only $26 plus free shipping on Amazon.

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/81oUeAHBypL._SL1500_.jpg

Amazon.com: Mounting Dream MD2377 TV Wall Mount Bracket for most of 26-55 Inch LED, LCD, OLED Flat Screen TV with Full Motion Swivel Articulating Arm up to VESA 400x400mm and 60 lbs with Tilting: Cell Phones & Accessories (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00QOOZ4DE/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)

If you have doubts you can always call Villages AV, I used them to help with my attic antenna when I had trouble finding the right cables from the Directv cables. They are pros at mounting TV's and burying wires.

Home Audio Video Sales & Installation in The Villages, Florida (https://villagerav.com/)

The mount I bought from Amazon is very similar to yours. The area where I have to put it I don't believe there is a stud so I will use some type of molly anchor. It's a small bedroom so the tv is 32" and not heavy. I'm a do it yourself guy so I'm going to do this.
PS. Nice Car

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

From what I've been told, the exterior walls are wood and the interior walls are metal.

I've never had a problem hanging anything from metal studs. I worked in a shop up north that had them and we treated them just like a wood stud.

[CWGUY]

As Cool Hand Luke would say - "Shaking my head here Boss!":shrug:

[Gpsma]

Amazes me what people worry about. For most here, whether its built of metal, wood or any other material, the house will outlast you. Stop worrying like you are a 30 year old new home buyer up north.

And Gracie...you can splee Chanuka anyway you want...no one spells it right, including most of the jewish fai5)

[John_W]

The mount I bought from Amazon is very similar to yours. The area where I have to put it I don't believe there is a stud so I will use some type of molly anchor. It's a small bedroom so the tv is 32" and not heavy. I'm a do it yourself guy so I'm going to do this.
PS. Nice Car

I was able to do mine also myself, it was a bit of hassle since at the time I had a torn rotator cuff in my left shoulder. I have Directv on the two main TV's and for the bedroom I used the prewired outlet to an antenna in the attic for over-the-air reception. The outlet wasn't far, so I used a kit like this one on Youtube. It even had the circular saw bit. It was about $50 at Home Depot.

Wiremold: How to Install the Flat Screen TV Cord & Cable Power Kit - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3_tNHQEZbs)

Thanks on the car, it'a a 2017 50th Anniversary Camaro Nightfall Gray Metallic.

[The Chipster]

I was also surprised to discover metal studs when I moved into my new home. So I started driving around inspecting homes under construction. Some had all wood studs, some had all metal, and others had half & half. So I figure The Villages must have a pretty sophisticated algorithm for calculating which stud type is best depending on the model home, and the current cost of wood and steel. Whatever. Use sheet metal screws for a steel stud and wood screws for wood, and plastic screw-in anchors for in between. No big deal. What bothered me about steel studs was the havoc they can play with your home Wi-Fi. I got terrible speeds in rooms adjacent to my router, had to go to a booster router, and was told by the Spectrum installer “Yeah, we get a lot of these problems here in The Villages”.

[kcrazorbackfan]

Homes are built with metal studs and wood studs here in The Villages.. They are built to code. I think they are built well. We have had seven homes built for us in our life including our first home when we were 22 and 23. We had been working for four years and saved the down payment.

I do not know why there are a couple of people who always, always, want to say negative things about this place.

Merry Christmas and Happy Hanukka.

I spelled that wrong but my heart means kind wishes.

Gracie, there are always going to be people that if you give them $999, they're going to complain that you didn't give them $1000. I'd really like to know sometimes what enticed them to move here; they seem to like nothing about The Villages.

[GoodLife]

Gracie, there are always going to be people that if you give them $999, they're going to complain that you didn't give them $1000. I'd really like to know sometimes what enticed them to move here; they seem to like nothing about The Villages.

After reading the entire thread, I see one person who prefers wood over metal (and stated erroneously that all studs are metal), and another who says metal may cause havoc with wifi. Did not see one comment concerning they made a mistake buying here.

Yes there are some who seem to always criticize, and others who bristle at the most mild criticism. Both are guilty of a bias one way or the other..

[Mrs. Robinson]

To all the picky posters (speaking of negativity!), please note that in my original post, I did not say that all TV homes were built with ONLY metal studs.
I simply said that all TV houses were built with metal studs.
Sorry for not going a step farther by bringing wood into the picture.

[vintageogauge]

I walked through the building sections in Fenney yesterday and looked inside both villas and designers. There were no metal studs in any of them, all wood. Not to say that the ones already with drywall don't have them but the ones that are skeletons are all wood.

[EdFNJ]

When we moved into Amelia in January I was surprised that not only where the inside wall studs metal but they were on 24" centers vs. 16" . It seems the outside studs are wood but all inside walls are metal studs. House is just about 9yrs old. That threw me for a loop when trying to mount our TV on the wall. Had to stop and regroup! :) Everything I saw up in the attic (the visible framing) was wood.

[GoodLife]

To all the picky posters (speaking of negativity!), please note that in my original post, I did not say that all TV homes were built with ONLY metal studs.
I simply said that all TV houses were built with metal studs.
Sorry for not going a step farther by bringing wood into the picture.

Which is also wrong.

[Michaelk]

There are some valid as well as erroneous points in this thread.

When I bought, I asked about the steel studs. I was informed that the wood studs are used for bearing walls and the steel studs for non-bearing walls.

With regard to the screws to be used, there is not a need to predrill the steel studs if you use the correct screw. There are screws readily available called "sharp point" screws with fine threads that will pierce the metal and then drill through the studs and self-tap themselves. They also sell screws with a drill point shaped like the end on a drill bit...but these are really not necessary. Both types are available at Lowe's and Home Depot. Typically a # 6 diameter is used for attaching gypsum to wood or steel studs.

Steel studs are straight, true, will not rot, are not food for insects or termites, etc. They do NOT attract lightning and do not affect TV or WI-FI.

Some people just like to complain!