Speeders

[WillRogers]

When is the local law enforcement going to crack down on aggressive drivers? Speeding, running red lights, and tailgating are becoming common practice in the Villages.

[graciegirl]

When is the local law enforcement going to crack down on aggressive drivers? Speeding, running red lights, and tailgating are becoming common practice in the Villages.

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[Mleeja]

When is the local law enforcement going to crack down on aggressive drivers? Speeding, running red lights, and tailgating are becoming common practice in the Villages.

If you have a problem in your area, I suggest calling the proper law enforcement for your area. I see the Sumter County Sheriff’s cars on El Camino and Buena Vista all the time. They cannot be everywhere at the same time.

[rubicon]

When is the local law enforcement going to crack down on aggressive drivers? Speeding, running red lights, and tailgating are becoming common practice in the Villages.

" There are three kinds of men. The ones that learn by reading. The few that learn by observing. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves" :D

Will Rogers

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[Topspinmo]

Well, when you build Blvd. and chop the speed limit to accommodate golf carts and LSV you get SPEEDERS. 35 in most parts is at least 5 miles per hour or 10 miles per hour too slow. Now for habitual speeder and traffic regulation breaker, THERE NOT GOING TO CHANGE! They were aggressive drivers where they came from and retiring in the villages is not going to make them turn into angels. Until Hidden radar in place and can be moved around every couple days NOTHING going to change. Sure LEOs will catch few, but the never hardly ever catch the Habitual breaker. Even LEOs don't drive 35 down BV or MB. when not in pursuit. The some don't use there Brinker lights or come to complete stop at stop signs. But, They are there to enforce the regulations not abide by them.

[rubicon]

Indeed every time this issue of speeders, et al comes up I reference the fact that acceleration of the growth in this area negates speed limits etc as they stand today

when Feeney connects and it has plans for tunnels for both carts and cars it will expand this community more

the 20mph for carts is reasonable provided a driver can maintain 20mph on a MMP but I'll bet they actually average 16mph or less.

So those who bump up their carts speed up help because they can safely and efficiently pass a cart going 16mph and slower preventing bottlenecks Again a safe pass and a return to the allowable limit. And again given the traffic of carts, bikes walkers the average speed drops to about 16mph.

Same on 466 /466A Its agonizing to have some driver remain steadfast in the left lane going 40mph less and it happens often

[Rango]

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[Bay Kid]

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[GJohn]

When is the local law enforcement going to crack down on aggressive drivers? Speeding, running red lights, and tailgating are becoming common practice in the Villages.

Common practice in The Villages, what makes this area exempt? It's an every day occurrence and people bring their bad habits with them...even to The Villages.
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[billethkid]

It is all relative.
The extra 5+ mph whether in a car or golf cart mean nothing at the end of a 15 minute commute.

There is no doubt the enforcement of the moving violation laws has all but disappeared from BV from 466 to 466A.
The speeds are well above 40+ mph...stop signs mean absolutely nothing to far too many...right of ways are taken and not given...The friendliest home town caption needs a parenthetic claim (except when behind the wheel).

Add a special division to the law enforcements to do nothing but enforce traffic violations....the fines alone will more than pay for their work.
Let TV become one of those places with a reputation for speed traps.....don't we all know where they are? And funny....don't we all slow right down when we get there.

In TV drive defensively...do not doubt if the other driver will pull out or speed up or not use their signals because they will and they don't.

[Chatbrat]

In the villages, IMHO, the real danger is not the speeders but the people who are driving under the influence

And, again,IMHO--there is no difference from a person driving with dementia and a person driving under the influence--both have to business being on the road

[spring_chicken]

Indeed every time this issue of speeders, et al comes up I reference the fact that acceleration of the growth in this area negates speed limits etc as they stand today

when Feeney connects and it has plans for tunnels for both carts and cars it will expand this community more

the 20mph for carts is reasonable provided a driver can maintain 20mph on a MMP but I'll bet they actually average 16mph or less.

So those who bump up their carts speed up help because they can safely and efficiently pass a cart going 16mph and slower preventing bottlenecks Again a safe pass and a return to the allowable limit. And again given the traffic of carts, bikes walkers the average speed drops to about 16mph.

Same on 466 /466A Its agonizing to have some driver remain steadfast in the left lane going 40mph less and it happens often

Well said. I always chuckle as I'm behind some left lane laggard on 466 in a 45mph zone and they are sitting on 30. I just KNOW these people go home and complain on TOTV about speeders.
If they haven't done harm to you, mind your own business and get out of the left lane!

[graciegirl]

]Indeed every time this issue of speeders, et al comes up I reference the fact that acceleration of the growth in this area negates speed limits etc as they stand today

when Feeney connects and [/COLOR]it has plans for tunnels for both carts and cars it will expand this community more

the 20mph for carts is reasonable provided a driver can maintain 20mph on a MMP but I'll bet they actually average 16mph or less.

So those who bump up their carts speed up help because they can safely and efficiently pass a cart going 16mph and slower preventing bottlenecks Again a safe pass and a return to the allowable limit. And again given the traffic of carts, bikes walkers the average speed drops to about 16mph.

Same on 466 /466A Its agonizing to have some driver remain steadfast in the left lane going 40mph less and it happens often

And I remind you that the growth in this area will continue whether the builder we all have built with or a bunch of new untried builders build....Florida is now the third most populous state. More than New York.
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[njbchbum]

"Speeding, running red lights, and tailgating are becoming common practice in the Villages" and nowhere else? Seems to me that local law enforcement has lots of area and lots of infractions to respond to. As was said - they can't be everywhere!

[GoodLife]

I love these speeder threads. Nobody ever admits that they are speeders themselves and instead complain about laggards in the left lane, drunk people, old people etc etc.

[Topspinmo]

I love these speeder threads. Nobody ever admits that they are speeders themselves and instead complain about laggards in the left lane, drunk people, old people etc etc.

Did you speed! I don't recall, I don't remember, define speeding?
I'll take the 5th, catch me in the act and not from hearsay!

[GoodLife]

Even better than the speeder threads are the ones about drivers going the speed limit in the left lane.

IT'S AGAINST THE LAW TO HOLD ME UP DANGIT!

Of course these people are identifying themselves as speeders, and want to break the law themselves.

[Polar Bear]

Even better than the speeder threads are the ones about drivers going the speed limit in the left lane.

IT'S AGAINST THE LAW TO HOLD ME UP DANGIT!

Of course these people are identifying themselves as speeders, and want to break the law themselves.
Six a one, half dozen of the other. But the speeder nay have an out...emergencies, etc.

The left lane driver is breaking the law if he's holding up any traffic, including speeders.

[GoodLife]

Six a one, half dozen of the other. But the speeder nay have an out...emergencies, etc.

The left lane driver is breaking the law if he's holding up any traffic, including speeders.

I don't recall a single post by anyone complaining about "left lane speed limit drivers" having a valid emergency requiring excessive speed. Most of them are just in a hurry. I doubt cops would accept any excuse other than life or death emergency.

Left lane driver going speed limit and holding up traffic may be breaking the law, but those who want to pass and go faster than speed limit are breaking the law also.

I have never received a ticket for going the speed limit in left lane, I have received a few for speeding :evil6:

[rubicon]

I agree with a few of the responding posters. there apparently is some sort of mysterious mist that permeates the air around The Villages causing otherwise law-biding citizens to suddenly have the urge to speed up, run traffic signals, ignore signal lights, plant themselves in the left lane of a 45mph zone going 30mph because by golly they appointed themselves traffic cop and no one dare pass me.

[Topspinmo]

I agree with a few of the responding posters. there apparently is some sort of mysterious mist that permeates the air around The Villages causing otherwise law-biding citizens to suddenly have the urge to speed up, run traffic signals, ignore signal lights, plant themselves in the left lane of a 45mph zone going 30mph because by golly they appointed themselves traffic cop and no one dare pass me.

I can drive 35 in the left lane all day in that 45 mph limit as LONG as nobody behind me. I can pull into the left lane at 35 mph and make left turn and the guy that approached has to wait till I slow to crawl to turn into turning lane same as the guy behind right hand turner that stops to make the right hand turn. Basically the guy behind can't dictate what's going on in front of him.

[Gpsma]

Driving on Odell today, doing about 30 to 35 i had someone in a big suv tailgating me...about 6 feet from my bumper. Did a few light brake checks, then drove slower. At that point, the driver was 3 feet from my bumper.

Decided to stop at the hemingway intersection and get out of the car and, in my best arrogant northerner tude, discuss the tailgating.

30 year old idiot looked at me like a deer in headlights while i discussed tailgating. Said nothing while i read her the riot act.

Speeders and tailgaters...my guess dont even live inTV.

Needless to say, she didnt tailgate me after we got in Morse.

[Pearson14505]

Alot less accidents here then outside the dome!

[GoodLife]

Alot less accidents here then outside the dome!

Most reported accidents seem to be on 466, 466A, 27/441 and 301, with a few reported on Morse and Buena Vista. Some are in the dome and some not but they are all in our general area.

[Polar Bear]

I don't recall a single post by anyone complaining about "left lane speed limit drivers" having a valid emergency requiring excessive speed. Most of them are just in a hurry. I doubt cops would accept any excuse other than life or death emergency.

Left lane driver going speed limit and holding up traffic may be breaking the law, but those who want to pass and go faster than speed limit are breaking the law also...
I don't recall a single post like you describe either. What's your point?

I simply pojnted out that there can be a legal reason for driving faster than the speed limit. Never said it happens frequently.

But extended driving in the leftmost lane holding up faster traffic is always illegal.

...I have never received a ticket for going the speed limit in left lane, I have received a few for speeding :evil6:
Ooh. Are you admitting to being one of those left lane cruisers? :D

[TheWarriors]

I think Villagers are speedsters due to all the activities they are involved in and trying not to be late for them while at the same time fitting in all their routine weekly chores. The solution is to slow the Villagers down by limiting them to three classes per week and two rounds of golf. hahahahahahhahahahahaha

[rubicon]

I can drive 35 in the left lane all day in that 45 mph limit as LONG as nobody behind me. I can pull into the left lane at 35 mph and make left turn and the guy that approached has to wait till I slow to crawl to turn into turning lane same as the guy behind right hand turner that stops to make the right hand turn. Basically the guy behind can't dictate what's going on in front of him.

my favorite is to be behind some guy negotiating a right turn that takes him about 1.5 minutes. its excusable if there is a handicap plate on the car....guy while I'm still young

[rubicon]

Alot less accidents here then outside the dome!

You may want to qualify that statement .

[dewilson58]

I speed.


But I'm not a dentist.

[retiredguy123]

When I lived in the Washington DC area, it was not safe to drive the speed limit because everyone was going 10-20 mph above it. There is much better compliance here.

[Polar Bear]

When I lived in the Washington DC area, it was not safe to drive the speed limit because everyone was going 10-20 mph above it. There is much better compliance here.
Similar in Tampa Bay and I would guess every urban area in the country.

[collie1228]

Earlier this year the sheriff announced a crackdown on aggressive driving, and as I recall, specifically mentioned 27/441 as a target area. I drive on that highway several times every week, and I have never seen a sheriff's deputy parked anywhere on the road looking for aggressive drivers. On the other hand, I've seen many speeders, tailgaters, reckless lane changers, and red light runners.

[Two Bills]

Come on! Where is it not the same.
Where there is a speed limit nearly everbody exceeds it.
How much by, is up to their budget for fines on the rare occasion they may be caught.
Personaly, I am a 10% over driver, and most cars seem to overtake me.

[GoodLife]

But extended driving in the leftmost lane holding up faster traffic is always illegal.

So is speeding. My point is I see lots of people complaining about drivers going the speed limit in left lane, IT'S THE LAW DANGIT! But they themselves want to break the law by speeding (and not for life or death emergency) Hypocrisy... My breaking of law is better than yours

Ooh. Are you admitting to being one of those left lane cruisers?

If I ever see you in my rear view mirror I promise to pull over :D

73203

[Polar Bear]

...My breaking of law is better than yours...
Who could possibly argue with that?!? :D

[NotFromAroundHere]

I think Villagers are speedsters due to all the activities they are involved in and trying not to be late for them while at the same time fitting in all their routine weekly chores. The solution is to slow the Villagers down by limiting them to three classes per week and two rounds of golf. hahahahahahhahahahahaha
I've done an in-depth study of Village Speeders, and have determined that 43.7% of speeding residents are exceeding the limit because they are trying to get to their destination before they forget where they are going. Another 12.8% are trying to get to one of the Town Squares so that they can save their seats for evening entertainment. 60.4% denied that they were speeding, or that they had ever exceeded a posted speed limit.

[TheWarriors]

And if you think the roads are bad, just take a shopping cart inside of Publix and see how many near accidents you have ������

[autumnspring]

But extended driving in the leftmost lane holding up faster traffic is always illegal.

So is speeding. My point is I see lots of people complaining about drivers going the speed limit in left lane, IT'S THE LAW DANGIT! But they themselves want to break the law by speeding (and not for life or death emergency) Hypocrisy... My breaking of law is better than yours

Ooh. Are you admitting to being one of those left lane cruisers?

If I ever see you in my rear view mirror I promise to pull over :D

73203

First of all as an ex-NewYorker who has done a lot of driving. WOW-the most polite term I can say about drivers in the Villages is we have a lot of interesting drivers around here.

As to the law-read the posts about the round a bouts. They will scream but very few KNOW the law and fewer still follow the law.

Turn signals? Speed? For the debate about people riding in the left hand lane doing the speed limit. On a two lane road you are SUPPOSED TO drive the right hand lane so that people who wish to pass can pass you on the left AS THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO. For the passers-if you need to exceed the speed limit to pass-YOU ARE SPEEDING AND YOU CAN BE TICKETED FOR IT. In the REAL WORLD-few know or CARE about signals, about laws, ABOUT ANYONE BUT THEMSELVES.

SOLUTION-my dad taught me to drive he is long gone. To quote my Father's advice-EXPECT PEOPLE AROUND YOU TO DO THE STUPIDEST POSSIBLE THING CAUSE THAT IT EXACTLY WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO DO.

[autumnspring]

When I lived in the Washington DC area, it was not safe to drive the speed limit because everyone was going 10-20 mph above it. There is much better compliance here.

The city is built on the French system- a target.

Government workers clearly have a deal. They can't be ticketed no matter how STUPID they act.

Oh and unlike NY where the streets go 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10 oh and other than city hall area the streets were turned into a grid pattern. They did also keep BROADWAY at an angle and give streets two names-just to keep the tourists confused.
In DC, like the VILLAGES-hey that sounds like a good name or let's name a street after Uncle Charley.

[rhood]

Driving on Odell today, doing about 30 to 35 i had someone in a big suv tailgating me...about 6 feet from my bumper. Did a few light brake checks, then drove slower. At that point, the driver was 3 feet from my bumper.

Decided to stop at the hemingway intersection and get out of the car and, in my best arrogant northerner tude, discuss the tailgating.

30 year old idiot looked at me like a deer in headlights while i discussed tailgating. Said nothing while i read her the riot act.

Speeders and tailgaters...my guess dont even live inTV.

Needless to say, she didnt tailgate me after we got in Morse.

That was a stupid thing to do !

[Chatbrat]

Getting out of your car could get you shot dead, this is not NYC--lots of people carry here and if they feel threatened, they shoot first,call their lawyer second then 911

[VApeople]

I am a slow driver and almost never exceed the posted speed limit.

For the most part, speeders and tailgaters do not irritate me. The people I see speeding are soon long gone and do not bother me. The occasional tailgaters may follow me for a short while, but once they see that I am not increasing my speed, they either go around me or back off, probably because it makes them nervous to follow a few feet behind me for a longer distance.

I get worried when I find the rare driver going slower than I do. I wonder what is wrong with them.

[Nucky]

Fast, slow, out of the car, tap the brakes, flip the bird, record on dash cam, your all NUTS. Once they catch this one driver screwing everyone up they should string him or her up at one of the Squares with Christmas Lights to keep with the seasonal feeling. Enough with the B.S. just do your part and drive defensively. Merry Christmas. Peace Out!!!

[pauld315]

Earlier this year the sheriff announced a crackdown on aggressive driving, and as I recall, specifically mentioned 27/441 as a target area. I drive on that highway several times every week, and I have never seen a sheriff's deputy parked anywhere on the road looking for aggressive drivers. On the other hand, I've seen many speeders, tailgaters, reckless lane changers, and red light runners.

I saw 2 cars pulled over on 441 tonight