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The Chipster
12-19-2017, 08:23 PM
I am new to this site, so sorry if I overstep my bounds. I am a progressive, but not extreme. Kasich was actually who I would have voted for. What has transpired since Trump’s election is terrifying to me. So I look for facts in between all the BS. Here is what I know:

1. We just reached an incredible milestone. Trump’s approval rating (35%) is now the lowest, at this point in his term, of any President since statistically-valid polls started.

2. Trump’s true base are primarily under-educated whites males, rural folks being left behind in the technology revolution, and evangelicals. If you support Trump and are not in one of those go ups, statistically you are an anomaly.

3. The amazing swing to the political right will, historically speaking, cause an equal reaction by swinging back to the left. You can actually make a lot of money at this if you take the emotions out of it.

4. With almost every major issue of importance to the average American ( gun control, abortion, immigration, Foreign policy, security, climate change, Russians interfering with the election, etc.), the public opinion is at great odds with the current GOP agenda. BS you say? Look it all up on PollingReport.com (http://www.pollingreport.com).

5. It does not take a PhD in Political Science to figure out that the GOP, Trump, Bannon and their followers are gathering into a circular firing squad.

I do not mean to hurt anyone’s feelings. Please forgive me.

Fraugoofy
12-19-2017, 08:31 PM
I am new to this site, so sorry if I overstep my bounds. I am a progressive, but not extreme. Kasich was actually who I would have voted for. What has transpired since Trump’s election is terrifying to me. So I look for facts in between all the BS. Here is what I know:

1. We just reached an incredible milestone. Trump’s approval rating (35%) is now the lowest, at this point in his term, of any President since statistically-valid polls started.

2. Trump’s true base are primarily under-educated whites males, rural folks being left behind in the technology revolution, and evangelicals. If you support Trump and are not in one of those go ups, statistically you are an anomaly.

3. The amazing swing to the political right will, historically speaking, cause an equal reaction by swinging back to the left. You can actually make a lot of money at this if you take the emotions out of it.

4. With almost every major issue of importance to the average American ( gun control, abortion, immigration, Foreign policy, security, climate change, Russians interfering with the election, etc.), the public opinion is at great odds with the current GOP agenda. BS you say? Look it all up on PollingReport.com (http://www.pollingreport.com).

5. It does not take a PhD in Political Science to figure out that the GOP, Trump, Bannon and their followers are gathering into a circular firing squad.

I do not mean to hurt anyone’s feelings. Please forgive me.So what's your actual argument or statement?

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Allegiance
12-19-2017, 09:15 PM
So what's your actual argument or statement?

Sent from my SM-N920R4 using TapatalkGoo, Does that writing like look familiar?

The Chipster
12-19-2017, 10:17 PM
Goo? I was expecting some intelligent discourse. Who the hell is Goo?

Don Baldwin
12-19-2017, 10:27 PM
I am new to this site, so sorry if I overstep my bounds. I am a progressive, but not extreme. Kasich was actually who I would have voted for. What has transpired since Trump’s election is terrifying to me. So I look for facts in between all the BS. Here is what I know:

1. We just reached an incredible milestone. Trump’s approval rating (35%) is now the lowest, at this point in his term, of any President since statistically-valid polls started.

2. Trump’s true base are primarily under-educated whites males, rural folks being left behind in the technology revolution, and evangelicals. If you support Trump and are not in one of those go ups, statistically you are an anomaly.

3. The amazing swing to the political right will, historically speaking, cause an equal reaction by swinging back to the left. You can actually make a lot of money at this if you take the emotions out of it.

4. With almost every major issue of importance to the average American ( gun control, abortion, immigration, Foreign policy, security, climate change, Russians interfering with the election, etc.), the public opinion is at great odds with the current GOP agenda. BS you say? Look it all up on PollingReport.com (http://www.pollingreport.com).

5. It does not take a PhD in Political Science to figure out that the GOP, Trump, Bannon and their followers are gathering into a circular firing squad.

I do not mean to hurt anyone’s feelings. Please forgive me.

You're a liberal woman who hates Trump...

Next...

Bog99
12-19-2017, 11:48 PM
I am new to this site, so sorry if I overstep my bounds. I am a progressive, but not extreme. Kasich was actually who I would have voted for. What has transpired since Trump’s election is terrifying to me. So I look for facts in between all the BS. Here is what I know:

1. We just reached an incredible milestone. Trump’s approval rating (35%) is now the lowest, at this point in his term, of any President since statistically-valid polls started.

2. Trump’s true base are primarily under-educated whites males, rural folks being left behind in the technology revolution, and evangelicals. If you support Trump and are not in one of those go ups, statistically you are an anomaly.

3. The amazing swing to the political right will, historically speaking, cause an equal reaction by swinging back to the left. You can actually make a lot of money at this if you take the emotions out of it.

4. With almost every major issue of importance to the average American ( gun control, abortion, immigration, Foreign policy, security, climate change, Russians interfering with the election, etc.), the public opinion is at great odds with the current GOP agenda. BS you say? Look it all up on PollingReport.com (http://www.pollingreport.com).

5. It does not take a PhD in Political Science to figure out that the GOP, Trump, Bannon and their followers are gathering into a circular firing squad.

I do not mean to hurt anyone’s feelings. Please forgive me.
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You are full of mirror-gazing, judgmental, self-regarding conceit. This is typical of Femo-Fascists and is basically why Trump won (socially).

Underlying the disgusting elitism of the Femo-Fascists is the total ignorance of Type 1 vs. Type 2 law --- another reason for the defeat of Femo-Fascism's standard bearer.

Please study these links in order to restore some objectivity (and humility) to your politics.


https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-political-talk-88/femo-fascism-101-a-248942/index2.html#post1492693

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-political-talk-88/structure-politics-type-1-vs-type-2-laws-248949/index2.html

Wiotte
12-19-2017, 11:58 PM
I am new to this site, so sorry if I overstep my bounds. I am a progressive, but not extreme. Kasich was actually who I would have voted for. What has transpired since Trump’s election is terrifying to me. So I look for facts in between all the BS. Here is what I know:



1. We just reached an incredible milestone. Trump’s approval rating (35%) is now the lowest, at this point in his term, of any President since statistically-valid polls started.



2. Trump’s true base are primarily under-educated whites males, rural folks being left behind in the technology revolution, and evangelicals. If you support Trump and are not in one of those go ups, statistically you are an anomaly.



3. The amazing swing to the political right will, historically speaking, cause an equal reaction by swinging back to the left. You can actually make a lot of money at this if you take the emotions out of it.



4. With almost every major issue of importance to the average American ( gun control, abortion, immigration, Foreign policy, security, climate change, Russians interfering with the election, etc.), the public opinion is at great odds with the current GOP agenda. BS you say? Look it all up on PollingReport.com (http://www.pollingreport.com).



5. It does not take a PhD in Political Science to figure out that the GOP, Trump, Bannon and their followers are gathering into a circular firing squad.



I do not mean to hurt anyone’s feelings. Please forgive me.



You’re not forgiven. Everything you said is true. I have no patience for idiots with small minds driving loud diesel pickups flying our flag as if it belonged to them and them alone. The average IQ in our country is 98, that is scary knowing THEIR among us. Well, they know what they like to hear and voted in a con man as prez. He knows their morons, he played to their moronic brains. This is what happens when you give the vote to the rabble.


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Allegiance
12-20-2017, 01:23 AM
You’re not forgiven. Everything you said is true. I have no patience for idiots with small minds driving loud diesel pickups flying our flag as if it belonged to them and them alone. The average IQ in our country is 98, that is scary knowing THEIR among us. Well, they know what they like to hear and voted in a con man as prez. He knows their morons, he played to their moronic brains. This is what happens when you give the vote to the rabble.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkYou are smart enough to know why the IQ level is where it is.


You don't need Donnie to tell you, it's simple arithmetic.

rubicon
12-20-2017, 04:49 AM
I am new to this site, so sorry if I overstep my bounds. I am a progressive, but not extreme. Kasich was actually who I would have voted for. What has transpired since Trump’s election is terrifying to me. So I look for facts in between all the BS. Here is what I know:

1. We just reached an incredible milestone. Trump’s approval rating (35%) is now the lowest, at this point in his term, of any President since statistically-valid polls started.

2. Trump’s true base are primarily under-educated whites males, rural folks being left behind in the technology revolution, and evangelicals. If you support Trump and are not in one of those go ups, statistically you are an anomaly.

3. The amazing swing to the political right will, historically speaking, cause an equal reaction by swinging back to the left. You can actually make a lot of money at this if you take the emotions out of it.

4. With almost every major issue of importance to the average American ( gun control, abortion, immigration, Foreign policy, security, climate change, Russians interfering with the election, etc.), the public opinion is at great odds with the current GOP agenda. BS you say? Look it all up on PollingReport.com (http://www.pollingreport.com).

5. It does not take a PhD in Political Science to figure out that the GOP, Trump, Bannon and their followers are gathering into a circular firing squad.

I do not mean to hurt anyone’s feelings. Please forgive me.

Dear Newbie

The Dow Jones is at an all time high

The economy is booming

A genuine tax reform bill is about to be finalized

Black unemployment is the lowest its been in 17 years

Trump cut through mounds of unnecessary business regulations

Trumps de-regulation efforts and the pending tax reform has changed businesses behavior and they are beginning to use the cash that sat on for so long to re-energizing this economy

Trump has made several judicial appoints and could have made substantially more but Schumer is playing the" cloture" game

Trump has made it clear to the world that a new sheriffs in town
and has cut through the hypocrisy that has existed for fa tool long
We see that because the UN which is not America's friend is disturb by the fact that they can schmooze this president .

Polls serve no other purpose than to mislead and sway people's thinking. I prefer the old fashion way and look to actual results and in that and despite the orchestrated attempt to de-rail Trump he has yet blinked.

Welcome to the forum Newbie.

P.s. I am neither a progressive or a conservative. Rather I am a pragmatist and a realist and prefer to come to my own conclusion rather than a collectives.

Personal Best Regards

Don Baldwin
12-20-2017, 07:24 AM
You’re not forgiven. Everything you said is true. I have no patience for idiots with small minds driving loud diesel pickups flying our flag as if it belonged to them and them alone. The average IQ in our country is 98, that is scary knowing THEIR among us. Well, they know what they like to hear and voted in a con man as prez. He knows their morons, he played to their moronic brains. This is what happens when you give the vote to the rabble.


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Is it? Is it scary knowing that the country is now MORE than 50% minorities? You want to know WHY the average IQ is so low? Whites have gone from 90% of the population to the current 49%. America's average IQ will be much lower when the minorities are at 80% of the countries population.

You are smart enough to know why the IQ level is where it is.


You don't need Donnie to tell you, it's simple arithmetic.

I told her anyway...

Dear Newbie

The Dow Jones is at an all time high

The economy is booming

A genuine tax reform bill is about to be finalized

Black unemployment is the lowest its been in 17 years

Trump cut through mounds of unnecessary business regulations

Trumps de-regulation efforts and the pending tax reform has changed businesses behavior and they are beginning to use the cash that sat on for so long to re-energizing this economy

Trump has made several judicial appoints and could have made substantially more but Schumer is playing the" cloture" game

Trump has made it clear to the world that a new sheriffs in town
and has cut through the hypocrisy that has existed for fa tool long
We see that because the UN which is not America's friend is disturb by the fact that they can schmooze this president .

Polls serve no other purpose than to mislead and sway people's thinking. I prefer the old fashion way and look to actual results and in that and despite the orchestrated attempt to de-rail Trump he has yet blinked.

Welcome to the forum Newbie.

P.s. I am neither a progressive or a conservative. Rather I am a pragmatist and a realist and prefer to come to my own conclusion rather than a collectives.

Personal Best Regards

BECAUSE the Fed keeps pumping money into the bond/stock markets.

BECAUSE the Fed keeps pumping money into the economy.

White male employment is at it's LOWEST level in years.

America is at the lowest level in years...from #1 to #25.

The numbers of minorities has never been higher, they are now 51% of the population.

dirtbanker
12-20-2017, 08:05 AM
I am new to this site, so sorry if I overstep my bounds. I am a progressive, but not extreme. Kasich was actually who I would have voted for. What has transpired since Trump’s election is terrifying to me. So I look for facts in between all the BS. Here is what I know:

1. We just reached an incredible milestone. Trump’s approval rating (35%) is now the lowest, at this point in his term, of any President since statistically-valid polls started.

2. Trump’s true base are primarily under-educated whites males, rural folks being left behind in the technology revolution, and evangelicals. If you support Trump and are not in one of those go ups, statistically you are an anomaly.

3. The amazing swing to the political right will, historically speaking, cause an equal reaction by swinging back to the left. You can actually make a lot of money at this if you take the emotions out of it.

4. With almost every major issue of importance to the average American ( gun control, abortion, immigration, Foreign policy, security, climate change, Russians interfering with the election, etc.), the public opinion is at great odds with the current GOP agenda. BS you say? Look it all up on PollingReport.com (http://www.pollingreport.com).

5. It does not take a PhD in Political Science to figure out that the GOP, Trump, Bannon and their followers are gathering into a circular firing squad.

I do not mean to hurt anyone’s feelings. Please forgive me.

Welcome "Rockface with a new name"...

Whole lot of anti Trump in your post!

Kasich did not make it out of the primaries...so please tell us who you voted for and what did they promise to do for this country to earn your vote?

I hope to hurt your feelings, and I seldom forgive anyone.

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Taltarzac725
12-20-2017, 08:07 AM
I am new to this site, so sorry if I overstep my bounds. I am a progressive, but not extreme. Kasich was actually who I would have voted for. What has transpired since Trump’s election is terrifying to me. So I look for facts in between all the BS. Here is what I know:

1. We just reached an incredible milestone. Trump’s approval rating (35%) is now the lowest, at this point in his term, of any President since statistically-valid polls started.

2. Trump’s true base are primarily under-educated whites males, rural folks being left behind in the technology revolution, and evangelicals. If you support Trump and are not in one of those go ups, statistically you are an anomaly.

3. The amazing swing to the political right will, historically speaking, cause an equal reaction by swinging back to the left. You can actually make a lot of money at this if you take the emotions out of it.

4. With almost every major issue of importance to the average American ( gun control, abortion, immigration, Foreign policy, security, climate change, Russians interfering with the election, etc.), the public opinion is at great odds with the current GOP agenda. BS you say? Look it all up on PollingReport.com (http://www.pollingreport.com).

5. It does not take a PhD in Political Science to figure out that the GOP, Trump, Bannon and their followers are gathering into a circular firing squad.

I do not mean to hurt anyone’s feelings. Please forgive me.

I do like your post. :BigApplause:

dirtbanker
12-20-2017, 08:18 AM
I do like your post. :BigApplause:

I am sure that will mean little to "$hitstirrer"

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Allegiance
12-20-2017, 09:22 AM
Welcome "Rockface with a new name"...

Whole lot of anti Trump in your post!

Kasich did not make it out of the primaries...so please tell us who you voted for and what did they promise to do for this country to earn your vote?

I hope to hurt your feelings, and I seldom forgive anyone.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G890A using TapatalkSimple question and he never answered.

Don Baldwin
12-20-2017, 09:33 AM
Simple question and he never answered.

Does it matter?

I give them props if it wasn't a D or R. ANYONE but a D or R.

I'd LOVE to see a presidential election where Mickey Mouse wins as a write in. ANYONE but a D or R!!! BOTH sides are completely corrupt...part of a corrupt political system.

dirtbanker
12-20-2017, 10:28 AM
Does it matter?

I give them props if it wasn't a D or R. ANYONE but a D or R.

I'd LOVE to see a presidential election where Mickey Mouse wins as a write in. ANYONE but a D or R!!! BOTH sides are completely corrupt...part of a corrupt political system.

It matters when all they do is bitch...they most likely did not even take the time to vote, and yet somehow have all the time in the world to bitch.

Mickey mouse and Trump would both be considered outsiders to me. Only difference is Mickey made no promises and we have no idea what he would want to do.

Ross Perot seemed like a great businessman, but at the time it was considered he had nothing to trade with congress, and thus nothing would get done.

Trump while running as an "R" is not of the same cloth as the majority of the party. Thanks to liberal lawyers and Obamma, the president can do a lot more today without congress.

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dirtbanker
12-20-2017, 10:30 AM
Simple question and he never answered.He can't answer because it shows how stupid he was, and is...

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Don Baldwin
12-20-2017, 11:58 AM
It matters when all they do is bitch...they most likely did not even take the time to vote, and yet somehow have all the time in the world to bitch.

Mickey mouse and Trump would both be considered outsiders to me. Only difference is Mickey made no promises and we have no idea what he would want to do.

Ross Perot seemed like a great businessman, but at the time it was considered he had nothing to trade with congress, and thus nothing would get done.

Trump while running as an "R" is not of the same cloth as the majority of the party. Thanks to liberal lawyers and Obamma, the president can do a lot more today without congress.

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I voted for Ross...we ALL should have. We wouldn't have been sold out as quickly with a 3rd party to slow things down. But they too are/would become corrupt too.

Bottom line is ALL governments ARE immoral when they rule over others.

Ron_Ski
12-20-2017, 02:01 PM
[QUOTE=The Chipster I am new to this site, so sorry if I overstep my bounds. I am a progressive, but not extreme. Kasich was actually who I would have voted for. What has transpired since Trump’s election is terrifying to me. So I look for facts in between all the BS. Here is what I know:

1. We just reached an incredible milestone. Trump’s approval rating (35%) is now the lowest, at this point in his term, of any President since statistically-valid polls started.

2. Trump’s true base are primarily under-educated whites males, rural folks being left behind in the technology revolution, and evangelicals. If you support Trump and are not in one of those go ups, statistically you are an anomaly.

3. The amazing swing to the political right will, historically speaking, cause an equal reaction by swinging back to the left. You can actually make a lot of money at this if you take the emotions out of it.

4. With almost every major issue of importance to the average American ( gun control, abortion, immigration, Foreign policy, security, climate change, Russians interfering with the election, etc.), the public opinion is at great odds with the current GOP agenda. BS you say? Look it all up on PollingReport.com (http://www.pollingreport.com).

5. It does not take a PhD in Political Science to figure out that the GOP, Trump, Bannon and their followers are gathering into a circular firing squad.

I do not mean to hurt anyone’s feelings. Please forgive me.[/QUOTE]

Hi Chipster, Welcome to the list.

If as you say "Trump’s true base are primarily under-educated whites males, rural folks being left behind in the technology revolution,

and evangelicals" along with the "anomalies" can you share two or three reasons why Hillary lost.

It doesn't seem like that would be nearly enough of the population to put Trump over the top.

Just ol' Ski

mellincf
12-20-2017, 02:20 PM
Hi Chipster, Welcome to the list.

If as you say "Trump’s true base are primarily under-educated whites males, rural folks being left behind in the technology revolution,

and evangelicals" along with the "anomalies" can you share two or three reasons why Hillary lost.

It doesn't seem like that would be nearly enough of the population to put Trump over the top.

Just ol' Ski

How easily you forget the Russian propaganda that persuaded millions that Hillary was a "crook". The proof? Republicans now completely control the entire government and it is not Hillary, but Trump, who is being investigated.

Here Are Some of the Propaganda Facebook Ads Russia Ran During the 2016 Election (http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a13135811/russian-facebook-ads-2016/)

Wiotte
12-20-2017, 02:30 PM
You are smart enough to know why the IQ level is where it is.


You don't need Donnie to tell you, it's simple arithmetic.



Yeah.


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Ron_Ski
12-20-2017, 03:06 PM
How easily you forget the Russian propaganda that persuaded millions that Hillary was a "crook". The proof? Republicans now completely control the entire government and it is not Hillary, but Trump, who is being investigated.

Here Are Some of the Propaganda Facebook Ads Russia Ran During the 2016 Election (http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a13135811/russian-facebook-ads-2016/)



So in your opinion, the voters who would normally have voted for Hillary, are so stupid and ignorant that they let some facebook adds change their mind and vote for Trump.

Keep in mind that Hillary spent 1.4 billion on her campaign, and the Russians spent about 300,000.

Doesn't say much for the average Democrat voter, does it?

I think The Chipster can answer for himself.

dirtbanker
12-20-2017, 03:15 PM
How easily you forget the Russian propaganda that persuaded millions that Hillary was a "crook". The proof? Republicans now completely control the entire government and it is not Hillary, but Trump, who is being investigated.

Here Are Some of the Propaganda Facebook Ads Russia Ran During the 2016 Election (http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a13135811/russian-facebook-ads-2016/)

Gee tithead, If that propaganda worked on the rest of the liberals why was your vote not for Trump?

If a person like me, who is not on farcebook or twatter, voted for Trump did the Russian make me do it??

Did the Russians use snapperchat to persuade voters?



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billethkid
12-20-2017, 04:16 PM
I am new to this site, so sorry if I overstep my bounds. I am a progressive, but not extreme. Kasich was actually who I would have voted for. What has transpired since Trump’s election is terrifying to me. So I look for facts in between all the BS. Here is what I know:

1. We just reached an incredible milestone. Trump’s approval rating (35%) is now the lowest, at this point in his term, of any President since statistically-valid polls started.

2. Trump’s true base are primarily under-educated whites males, rural folks being left behind in the technology revolution, and evangelicals. If you support Trump and are not in one of those go ups, statistically you are an anomaly.

3. The amazing swing to the political right will, historically speaking, cause an equal reaction by swinging back to the left. You can actually make a lot of money at this if you take the emotions out of it.

4. With almost every major issue of importance to the average American ( gun control, abortion, immigration, Foreign policy, security, climate change, Russians interfering with the election, etc.), the public opinion is at great odds with the current GOP agenda. BS you say? Look it all up on PollingReport.com (http://www.pollingreport.com).

5. It does not take a PhD in Political Science to figure out that the GOP, Trump, Bannon and their followers are gathering into a circular firing squad.

I do not mean to hurt anyone’s feelings. Please forgive me.

OK...now list that which he promised and has delivered upon.
If your sources are no better than most who only speak negatively you will no doubt not be allowed to make any positive observations.

As for the ratings? Meaningless unless or until some see a number they like.

Remember the ratings/polls/odds for a Clinton sure thing, land slide election last November?
Obvious testimony to the lack of credence and partisan fluff!

Welcome to the forum. Most of us do respect an opposing position/party/opinion. We need not agree but we can agree to disagree.

You will find there is a small number who do not subscribe to the common courtesy.

The Chipster
12-20-2017, 07:53 PM
First of all, I am most surely not a female 😅 and my wife of 37years got a huge belly laugh from whoever came up with that. Actually I am a 66 year old current CEO of a multinational company, managing the business from a virtual office in the front bedroom of a new Ivy. But none of that matters because I am thrilled to be loving The Villages like everyone else here.

I think this is the problem on this message board: most folks who read this drivel are lurkers -they never post anything. Those of us that do are immediately branded as extreme conservative or liberal. But many posters really are probably moderates, just wanting to express some facts and get intelligent discourse going. Nope. Interesting that none of you Trump supporters had any debate about the facts I cited, you only wanted to express your displeasures at me stating them. Fair enough. So let me try this one and see if there are some thinkers out there: The tax bill passed today is PROVEN to be deeply unpopular with the general American voting public. Apparently they can see that the tax advantages for the middle class (temporary) are insignificant to the advantages (permanent) given to the high wealthy. There is also broad resistance to saddling our children with another trillion dollars of debt during a period of great economic growth. So why did the Republicans do it? And isn’t this wonderful dry gunpowder for the Dems in the upcoming mid-terms? Please don’t answer with **** you bombs. I am interested in your reasoned answers.

Allegiance
12-20-2017, 07:57 PM
First of all, I am most surely not a female [emoji28] and my wife of 37years got a huge belly laugh from whoever came up with that. Actually I am a 66 year old current CEO of a multinational company, managing the business from a virtual office in the front bedroom of a new Ivy. But none of that matters because I am thrilled to be loving The Villages like everyone else here.

I think this is the problem on this message board: most folks who read this drivel are lurkers -they never post anything. Those of us that do are immediately branded as extreme conservative or liberal. But many posters really are probably moderates, just wanting to express some facts and get intelligent discourse going. Nope. Interesting that none of you Trump supporters had any debate about the facts I cited, you only wanted to express your displeasures at me stating them. Fair enough. So let me try this one and see if there are some thinkers out there: The tax bill passed today is PROVEN to be deeply unpopular with the general American voting public. Apparently they can see that the tax advantages for the middle class (temporary) are insignificant to the advantages (permanent) given to the high wealthy. There is also broad resistance to saddling our children with another trillion dollars of debt during a period of great economic growth. So why did the Republicans do it? And isn’t this wonderful dry gunpowder for the Dems in the upcoming mid-terms? Please don’t answer with **** you bombs. I am interested in you reasoned answers.As opposed to the Obama 10 trillion.

Bill Clinton on Illegal Immigration 1995 - YouTube (https://youtu.be/mE7kT44NtsQ)

Video says it all.

Don Baldwin
12-20-2017, 08:33 PM
As opposed to the Obama 10 trillion.

Bill Clinton on Illegal Immigration 1995 - YouTube (https://youtu.be/mE7kT44NtsQ)

Video says it all.

And then 20 years later...we have:

Joe Biden Admits Breeding Out The White Race Through Immigration Is The End Game - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYqQQJcNUTE)

My...how things have changed.

Ron_Ski
12-21-2017, 08:22 AM
I am new to this site, so sorry if I overstep my bounds. I am a progressive, but not extreme. Kasich was actually who I would have voted for. What has transpired since Trump’s election is terrifying to me. So I look for facts in between all the BS. Here is what I know:

1. We just reached an incredible milestone. Trump’s approval rating (35%) is now the lowest, at this point in his term, of any President since statistically-valid polls started.

2. Trump’s true base are primarily under-educated whites males, rural folks being left behind in the technology revolution, and evangelicals. If you support Trump and are not in one of those go ups, statistically you are an anomaly.

3. The amazing swing to the political right will, historically speaking, cause an equal reaction by swinging back to the left. You can actually make a lot of money at this if you take the emotions out of it.

4. With almost every major issue of importance to the average American ( gun control, abortion, immigration, Foreign policy, security, climate change, Russians interfering with the election, etc.), the public opinion is at great odds with the current GOP agenda. BS you say? Look it all up on PollingReport.com (http://www.pollingreport.com).

5. It does not take a PhD in Political Science to figure out that the GOP, Trump, Bannon and their followers are gathering into a circular firing squad.

I do not mean to hurt anyone’s feelings. Please forgive me.

If everything you you say is true, then there was no way Hillary could have lost the election, but she did.

What are the main reasons, in your opinion, she lost the election.

Taltarzac725
12-21-2017, 08:49 AM
First of all, I am most surely not a female ������ and my wife of 37years got a huge belly laugh from whoever came up with that. Actually I am a 66 year old current CEO of a multinational company, managing the business from a virtual office in the front bedroom of a new Ivy. But none of that matters because I am thrilled to be loving The Villages like everyone else here.

I think this is the problem on this message board: most folks who read this drivel are lurkers -they never post anything. Those of us that do are immediately branded as extreme conservative or liberal. But many posters really are probably moderates, just wanting to express some facts and get intelligent discourse going. Nope. Interesting that none of you Trump supporters had any debate about the facts I cited, you only wanted to express your displeasures at me stating them. Fair enough. So let me try this one and see if there are some thinkers out there: The tax bill passed today is PROVEN to be deeply unpopular with the general American voting public. Apparently they can see that the tax advantages for the middle class (temporary) are insignificant to the advantages (permanent) given to the high wealthy. There is also broad resistance to saddling our children with another trillion dollars of debt during a period of great economic growth. So why did the Republicans do it? And isn’t this wonderful dry gunpowder for the Dems in the upcoming mid-terms? Please don’t answer with **** you bombs. I am interested in your reasoned answers.

Good to see someone looking for intelligent discussion on this Political Forum posting. Welcome.

Allegiance
12-21-2017, 09:42 AM
Good to see someone looking for intelligent discussion on this Political Forum posting. Welcome.Tell him about your 224. ALL newbies need to know.

Taltarzac725
12-21-2017, 10:18 AM
Tell him about your 224. ALL newbies need to know.

You can find out a lot of information about my 224 613 Project in many places on Talk of the Villages. I have been talking about it on here since 2008 or so. The TRUMP TROLLS do not like it; which is its favor.

Allegiance
12-21-2017, 10:26 AM
You can find out a lot of information about my 224 613 Project in many places on Talk of the Villages. I have been talking about it on here since 2008 or so. The TRUMP TROLLS do not like it; which is its favor.Can you point the newbie to a website on your 28 year old information based Herculean project?

Please post a link.

Taltarzac725
12-21-2017, 10:29 AM
Can you point the newbie to a website on your 28 year old information based Herculean project?

Please post a link.

CRIMINAL HARASSMENT by Allegiance continues. On and on.

dirtbanker
12-21-2017, 10:30 AM
You can find out a lot of information about my 224 613 Project in many places on Talk of the Villages. I have been talking about it on here since 2008 or so. The TRUMP TROLLS do not like it; which is its favor.

Be sure to mention how the numbers in the movies communicate with you...
COO COO

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Allegiance
12-21-2017, 10:30 AM
Can you point the newbie to a website on your 28 year old information based Herculean project?

Please post a link.Dear newbie,

Tal is a wackjob, an evil wackjob. He has lived with his mommy and daddy his whole life. He will call me a liar because perhaps he lived elsewhere while he was being handed his pity degree.

Ask Tal what score he got on his SAT and LSAT.

Allegiance
12-21-2017, 10:33 AM
You can find out a lot of information about my 224 613 Project in many places on Talk of the Villages. I have been talking about it on here since 2008 or so. The TRUMP TROLLS do not like it; which is its favor.So, only on totv's? Interesting, 28 years and only on here. Help us out buddy, post the cease and desist order, so we can really find out more about the project.

The Chipster
12-21-2017, 06:09 PM
Hmmm . . . I appreciated those few responses. But nobody responded to the actual question. Ah well . . .

ColdNoMore
12-21-2017, 06:34 PM
Hmmm . . . I appreciated those few responses. But nobody responded to the actual question. Ah well . . .
Good luck on that. :oops:

I've given up on actually having an intelligent political conversation, because the Trump Cultists or the fake/hypocritical Christian preacher (ie: RUBITHEcon)...prefer to troll instead of discuss.

If you haven't been told yet, you can see who the last 10 posters were by hitting the 'quote' button in any post and then scrolling way down...to see the user name of the person making the post.

You will quickly find out that the usual suspects, post about the usual things (eg: overt racism/misogyny by Don Baldwin/Larbug/Dirtbanker/Etc., blind Trump loyalty by Rubithecon/Allegiance/Etc. and just outright weirdness by people like Bog99) and that you can get pretty good at guessing who posted what...without even using the quote button. :D

And while The Villages in general is obviously hard right, I think the right-wing extremists in the political forum are on the very extremist fringe...and are not a true representation of the average Repub resident here.

Anyhoo...welcome. :ho:

Allegiance
12-21-2017, 07:01 PM
Good luck on that. :oops:

I've given up on actually having an intelligent political conversation, because the Trump Cultists or the fake/hypocritical Christian preacher (ie: RUBITHEcon)...prefer to troll instead of discuss.

If you haven't been told yet, you can see who the last 10 posters were by hitting the 'quote' button in any post and then scrolling way down...to see the user name of the person making the post.

You will quickly find out that the usual suspects, post about the usual things (eg: overt racism/misogyny by Don Baldwin/Larbug/Dirtbanker/Etc., blind Trump loyalty by Rubithecon/Allegiance/Etc. and just outright weirdness by people like Bog99) and that you can get pretty good at guessing who posted what...without even using the quote button. :D

And while The Villages in general is obviously hard right, I think the right-wing extremists in the political forum are on the very extremist fringe...and are not a true representation of the average Repub resident here.

Anyhoo...welcome. :ho:Perhaps you have given up because every single political development is favorable to Trump.

;)

O wait.

ME too
Look at the polls
But they are Republicans
That will raise the deficit


Lol
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Taltarzac725
12-21-2017, 07:58 PM
Good luck on that. :oops:

I've given up on actually having an intelligent political conversation, because the Trump Cultists or the fake/hypocritical Christian preacher (ie: RUBITHEcon)...prefer to troll instead of discuss.

If you haven't been told yet, you can see who the last 10 posters were by hitting the 'quote' button in any post and then scrolling way down...to see the user name of the person making the post.

You will quickly find out that the usual suspects, post about the usual things (eg: overt racism/misogyny by Don Baldwin/Larbug/Dirtbanker/Etc., blind Trump loyalty by Rubithecon/Allegiance/Etc. and just outright weirdness by people like Bog99) and that you can get pretty good at guessing who posted what...without even using the quote button. :D

And while The Villages in general is obviously hard right, I think the right-wing extremists in the political forum are on the very extremist fringe...and are not a true representation of the average Repub resident here.

Anyhoo...welcome. :ho:

I have never encountered anyone like these TRUMP Trolls here in the Villages in the 12.5 years we have been here. Nor in the 21 years or so we have lived in Florida. These people are like Los Angeles nuts.

Allegiance
12-21-2017, 08:25 PM
I have never encountered anyone like these TRUMP Trolls here in the Villages in the 12.5 years we have been here. Nor in the 21 years or so we have lived in Florida. These people are like Los Angeles nuts.Wait a minute, you said the previous trolls you dealt with were better at trolling and more creative than totv trolls.

What was that findlaw or something like that.


Do you ever stop lying.

Typical liberal

Allegiance
12-21-2017, 08:32 PM
Wait a minute, you said the previous trolls you dealt with were better at trolling and more creative than totv trolls.

What was that findlaw or something like that.


Do you ever stop lying.

Typical liberalHere you say totv people are much better than findlaw.

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-non-villages-discussion-93/favorite-online-site-other-than-totv-11415/

dirtbanker
12-21-2017, 08:39 PM
Liar liar pants on fire

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ColdNoMore
12-21-2017, 08:42 PM
Perhaps you have given up because every single political development is favorable to Trump.

O wait.

ME too
Look at the polls
But they are Republicans
That will raise the deficit


:1rotfl:

Metastatic ignorance, such as you and less than a third of other Americans exhibit...is the primary reason I don't post here nearly as much as I used to. :ho:



Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave:

Allegiance
12-21-2017, 08:46 PM
:1rotfl:

Metastatic ignorance, such as you and less than a third of other Americans exhibit...is the primary reason I don't post here nearly as much as I used to. :ho:



Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave:Well that, and then there is the "poopy pants"

Allegiance
12-21-2017, 08:49 PM
Each of the findings of liberal crimes would be incredible if not for the fact that each day a new even more horrific one is uncovered.

dirtbanker
12-21-2017, 09:12 PM
Good luck on that.

I've given up on actually having an intelligent political conversation, because the Trump Cultists or the fake/hypocritical Christian preacher (ie: RUBITHEcon)...prefer to troll instead of discuss.

If you haven't been told yet, you can see who the last 10 posters were by hitting the 'quote' button in any post and then scrolling way down...to see the user name of the person making the post.

You will quickly find out that the usual suspects, post about the usual things (eg: overt racism/misogyny by Don Baldwin/Larbug/Dirtbanker/Etc., blind Trump loyalty by Rubithecon/Allegiance/Etc. and just outright weirdness by people like Bog99) and that you can get pretty good at guessing who posted what...without even using the quote button.

And while The Villages in general is obviously hard right, I think the right-wing extremists in the political forum are on the very extremist fringe...and are not a true representation of the average Repub resident here.

Anyhoo...welcome.

You forgot to take a swipe at GG...

I see you have also forgotten to tell about your lies, your racist innuendos, and your cheap a$$ move taking your spouse to a 3rd world country for cheap dental work that resulted in a life threatening condition




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doughete
12-21-2017, 09:27 PM
I am neither a progressive or a conservative. Rather I am a pragmatist and a realist and prefer to come to my own conclusion rather than a collectives. Social Security costs about a trillion dollars a year. Actions speak louder than words. In his first major action did he put money into supporting SS. He took a trillion dollars from future tax income and gave it to the top 1%. If SS was a large part of my income I would begin to worry he cares about seniors about as much as he cares about the women he groped.

Allegiance
12-21-2017, 09:37 PM
I am neither a progressive or a conservative. Rather I am a pragmatist and a realist and prefer to come to my own conclusion rather than a collectives. Social Security costs about a trillion dollars a year. Actions speak louder than words. In his first major action did he put money into supporting SS. He took a trillion dollars from future tax income and gave it to the top 1%. If SS was a large part of my income I would begin to worry he cares about seniors about as much as he cares about the women he groped.Lol not a progressive

dirtbanker
12-22-2017, 07:04 AM
Lol not a progressiveLOL nor a punctuator...
LOL not sure if she is top 4% earner.
LOL Lives in the Historic District...

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dirtbanker
12-22-2017, 07:20 AM
I am neither a progressive or a conservative. Rather I am a pragmatist and a realist and prefer to come to my own conclusion rather than a collectives. Social Security costs about a trillion dollars a year. Actions speak louder than words. In his first major action did he put money into supporting SS. He took a trillion dollars from future tax income and gave it to the top 1%. If SS was a large part of my income I would begin to worry he cares about seniors about as much as he cares about the women he groped.

Trumps first major action was a ban on imigration from countries that terrorists travel from...why worry about collecting SS if your blown up in a coffee shop?

SS is not a large part of anyone's income...It is a terrible investment with regard to ROI. You, being a silly woman, can wait "till I can't wait any longer" to apply for SS if you want - but you never know when your going to die!

News flash: all heterosexual guys care more about pu$$y than anything else in life. If there was no women, we would have been happy living in a cave with just a fire and bison meat. There would be no drama, no need for flashy cars or dress, and no whining...

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Don Baldwin
12-22-2017, 07:29 AM
Trumps first major action was a ban on imigration from countries that terrorists travel from...why worry about collecting SS if your blown up in a coffee shop?

SS is not a large part of anyone's income...It is a terrible investment with regard to ROI. You, being a silly woman, can wait "till I can't wait any longer" to apply for SS if you want - but you never know when your going to die!

News flash: all heterosexual guys care more about pu$$y than anything else in life. If there was no women, we would have been happy living in a cave with just a fire and bison meat. There would be no drama, no need for flashy cars or dress, and no whining...

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When is the last time that happened here?

Quite right...it drives most of our actions.