Can we somehow use our mailbox number instead of our village address?

[Allegiance]

It would be a useful option to use on occasion.

[mtdjed]

Do not know why but why not ask the USPS? You get opinions here along with right and wrong answers.

[NYGUY]

Why?

[Uberschaf]

Because they might live on Dressendorfer Drive? Try spelling that to a service rep.

[Lovey2]

Because they might live on Dressendorfer Drive? Try spelling that to a service rep.

:1rotfl:

[spring_chicken]

Because they might live on Dressendorfer Drive? Try spelling that to a service rep.

Then don't move to Dressendorfer Drive?
I specifically told my realtor that I would not buy a house up in the northern sections where they have numbered streets plus a street name. (7415 SE 172nd Legacy Ln).
Many of those are ridiculous.

[vaborn]

Then don't move to Dressendorfer Drive?
I specifically told my realtor that I would not buy a house up in the northern sections where they have numbered streets plus a street name. (7415 SE 172nd Legacy Ln).
Many of those are ridiculous.

Totally agree. I do not understand why a number and street. One or the other but not both.

[villagetinker]

Do not know why but why not ask the USPS? You get opinions here along with right and wrong answers.

IMHO, I doubt it, however, you could just get a box at one of the UPS stores.

[njbchbum]

Perhaps because the same p.o. box number occurs at multiple mail centers? Even adding a line to indicate the Village of the postal station can lead to confusion...a friend's GPS kept sending them to the Village of Bonita when they were trying to visit friends on Bonita Dr!

[Ooper]

Totally agree. I do not understand why a number and street. One or the other but not both.

Those streets are in Marion County and they require all county streets and avenues in their county to be numbered in a grid starting from the center of downtown Ocala in 4 quadrants, NE, NW, SW, & SE. The reason why the numbers are so huge is because of their distance away from the starting point of the grid. The Villages, also wanted to keep with their street naming convention to be consistent with the rest of TV... thus, dual names for Marion County roads within The Villages.

[coffeebean]

Then don't move to Dressendorfer Drive?
I specifically told my realtor that I would not buy a house up in the northern sections where they have numbered streets plus a street name. (7415 SE 172nd Legacy Ln).
Many of those are ridiculous.

Agree. We absolutely disregarded any home with the street number and name. We would not consider looking in that section.

[coffeebean]

Those streets are in Marion County and they require all county streets and avenues in their county to be numbered in a grid starting from the center of downtown Ocala in 4 quadrants, NE, NW, SW, & SE. The reason why the numbers are so huge is because of their distance away from the starting point of the grid. The Villages, also wanted to keep with their street naming convention to be consistent with the rest of TV... thus, dual names for Marion County roads within The Villages.

It doesn’t matter to me what the reasoning is. We would still never look for a home in Marion County simply because of how the streets are named.

[spring_chicken]

It doesn’t matter to me what the reasoning is. We would still never look for a home in Marion County simply because of how the streets are named.

Bingo. Don't even care why it's done, won't live there.

[Bogie Shooter]

If it ain't broke.....don't fix it.

Is it broke?

[rjm1cc]

Test, send a letter to your box.

[GoodLife]

It doesn’t matter to me what the reasoning is. We would still never look for a home in Marion County simply because of how the streets are named.

So you would pay $50,000 more in Sumter for the exact same Designer home in Marion because of the street name? Yikes

[Allegiance]

Test, send a letter to your box.I will send a test letter, I will also ask at the post office after the lines die down. I just assumed it was something that was asked and answered.

There is occasion when you might want someone to mail you something and not have your home address.

There are a lot of people of questionable character, even in the villages.

[coffeebean]

So you would pay $50,000 more in Sumter for the exact same Designer home in Marion because of the street name? Yikes

I didn't know the homes in Marion County were priced so much less than Sumter County. Why is that?

To answer your question....Yes I would pay more money for the same designer home anywhere but Marion County with their silly street names.

[fishon]

A few years ago someone in my neighborhood used a similar dodge so their renters could use their postbox and not have to use general delivery in Lady Lake.
It caused problems in the long run if I recall correctly.

[GoodLife]

I didn't know the homes in Marion County were priced so much less than Sumter County. Why is that?

To answer your question....Yes I would pay more money for the same designer home anywhere but Marion County with their silly street names.

Lyle Gant, a Realtor here keeps excellent stats on MLS sales. In 2017 Designers in Marion County averaged about $50,000 less than Designers in Sumter. There are several reasons for this. As developer expanded TV from North to South, floor plans tended to get larger and also his construction costs have gone up. For instance, my home, a Designer with 2 car plus golf cart garage originally sold new for $187,000. A similar home in Fenny costs $257,000 or more, and the $257,000 home has zero upgrades. I bought mine in 2016 for $257,000 and it has over $90,000 in upgrades. I could care less what the street name is. Plus there is far less traffic and congestion up here. :thumbup:

[Roll With It]

Looking to buy soon and the street names and different Village names confuse me. What counties are the different town squares located in? Which county has the lowest taxes?

[mulligan]

Spanish Springs is in Lake County, Sumter and brownwood are in Sumter county.

[Bogie Shooter]

Looking to buy soon and the street names and different Village names confuse me. What counties are the different town squares located in? Which county has the lowest taxes?

do a search on this site for taxes. Or go to the tax collector page of each county.

[GoodLife]

Looking to buy soon and the street names and different Village names confuse me. What counties are the different town squares located in? Which county has the lowest taxes?

Go to Zillow and use map search. Then click on similar priced homes in the three different counties. When you click on a listing, scroll down to price/tax history. There numbers are accurate as far as I know, at least on homes I own.

[autumnspring]

Because they might live on Dressendorfer Drive? Try spelling that to a service rep.

A service rep coming to your home will likely use GPS.

Your mailbox number was given based on when you bought when you section was built. Our neighbor, next door, has one row up from us. When, they were away, we got their mail.
THEY GOT FAR BETTER SEATS THEN WE DID-but, at least we are not BOTTOM ROW..

[GoodLife]

A service rep coming to your home will likely use GPS.

Your mailbox number was given based on when you bought when you section was built. Our neighbor, next door, has one row up from us. When, they were away, we got their mail.
THEY GOT FAR BETTER SEATS THEN WE DID-but, at least we are not BOTTOM ROW..

I have a bottom row box on one of my homes. I am sure, on my deathbed, it will be the regret of my life.

Actually scratch that, my biggest regret will be my longish street address in Marion County.

[Marathon Man]

I have a bottom row box on one of my homes. I am sure, on my deathbed, it will be the regret of my life.

Actually scratch that, my biggest regret will be my longish street address in Marion County.

:laugh:

[autumnspring]

Looking to buy soon and the street names and different Village names confuse me. What counties are the different town squares located in? Which county has the lowest taxes?

The street names are a test. You have to want it bad enough to find it. OR, Garman does a good job of updating in the Villages.

ADVICE-you ask about taxes-PERHAPS YOU ARE FROM ONE OF THE HIGH TAX STATES-NY, NJ.CALIF. As ex-New Yorkers, our house is larger here, out land is larger here and our TAXES are about 2/3rds less. Our auto insurance is about 1/3 of what we used to pay for the same coverage. We have an all electric house and our electric bill is about half of what we used to pay for electricity and GAS heat.
I BELIEVE, the electric rate I KNOW the water rate and the BONDS are higher in the NEWER sections. If, you are buying a resale, I would drive around to see traffic flow. To see parking. To see dogs.To meet people who live there and just to talk. YOU CAN LEARN A GREAT DEAL FROM JUST LISTENING.

[VApeople]

Which county has the lowest taxes?

As I understand, the real estate taxes in Lake County are about 50% higher than Sumter County.

We have been in our house in Sumter County for just over a year. Our real estate taxes are about 1% of the value of our house.

[Barefoot]

We would still never look for a home in Marion County simply because of how the streets are named.
I feel the same way about the addresses in Marion County. :eek:
However no need to move to Fenny! We are happily located just south of CR 466.

[champion6]

<snip> Which county has the lowest taxes? Go to this thread and look at the total millage rates to compare taxes: https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-general-discussion-73/2017-real-estate-taxes-comparison-249710/#post1477081

The answer is unincorporated Sumter County, but not within Wildwood city limits.

[Jdmiata]

Short answer.....no

[HMLRHT1]

As a retired carrier of the USPS I will tell you the answer would be no. All of the computerized equipment used to sort mail is done by address that you have on your house or official PO Boxes. Other wise it will be returned to sender, address unknown.

[bprairie31]

I worked for Address Management in the USPS for many years before retiring. Unless the entire system has changed drastically in a few years, The answer is no, you cannot use your mailbox number instead of your street address. All letter mail is automated and is not looked at by a human until it gets to its final destination. The way that automation works is that it reads the mail and sorts it based on a national database of addresses. Your mailbox number is not listed in that database. Using only that number will result in your mail being returned to sender.

[Bogie Shooter]

As a retired carrier of the USPS I will tell you the answer would be no. All of the computerized equipment used to sort mail is done by address that you have on your house or official PO Boxes. Other wise it will be returned to sender, address unknown.

I worked for Address Management in the USPS for many years before retiring. Unless the entire system has changed drastically in a few years, The answer is no, you cannot use your mailbox number instead of your street address. All letter mail is automated and is not looked at by a human until it gets to its final destination. The way that automation works is that it reads the mail and sorts it based on a national database of addresses. Your mailbox number is not listed in that database. Using only that number will result in your mail being returned to sender.

After 32 opinions...........finally some facts.

[Nancy Mandigo]

An ambulance or fire truck will never find you without a street address.

[CFrance]

Because they might live on Dressendorfer Drive? Try spelling that to a service rep.
Uberschaf on Dressendorfer? That must make for a return address that fills up the envelope!:laugh:

[CFrance]

After 32 opinions...........finally some facts.
I bet this was a shorter process than calling the USPS, though.:evil6:
We've been that route.

[John_W]

Many of the major cities in Florida use numbered street and avenues. Miami for one, and where I grew up, St. Petersburg is another. If used properly it's a great way to find a location quick. I grew up at 670 17th Ave. South in St. Pete. That is 17 blocks south of Central Ave and 7 blocks west of Tampa Bay.

Central Avenue runs east to west and divides St. Petersburg into north and south. So if you lived at 17 ave. North, and I live at 17th Ave. South, you would be 34 blocks north of me. Avenues run east and west, streets run north and south and start at Tampa Bay. If you are on 4th Street North, you are 4 blocks west of Tampa Bay and somewhere north of Central Avenue. The easiest place in the world to find an address without looking at a map is St. Petersburg.

There are exceptions, a few streets have names, however they are in alphabetical order. Because Tampa Bay isn't at 90 degrees and slants to the northeast. Streets east of 1st Street are labeled as Northeast. So 2nd St. Northeast would be north of Central and east of 1st St., there is only about 3 or 4 streets that are northeast.

http://www.stpete.org/maps/docs/DowntownMap.gif

[Fourpar]

Thanks, always wondered about the "different" street names in Marion!

[theruizs]

I wondered the same thing. I had my daughter mail a letter from California as a test. It was addressed to my full name, Charlotte Mail Center, Box ####, The Villages, FL, Zip. It worked just fine. The reason is I would like to use it as my return address for selling on eBay. It will save me from paying for a PO Box. I still want to talk to our mail gal just to confirm it’s ok on a regular basis.

[Allegiance]

I wondered the same thing. I had my daughter mail a letter from California as a test. It was addressed to my full name, Charlotte Mail Center, Box ####, The Villages, FL, Zip. It worked just fine. The reason is I would like to use it as my return address for selling on eBay. It will save me from paying for a PO Box. I still want to talk to our mail gal just to confirm it’s ok on a regular basis.Great.

[BogeyBoy]

I wondered the same thing. I had my daughter mail a letter from California as a test. It was addressed to my full name, Charlotte Mail Center, Box ####, The Villages, FL, Zip. It worked just fine. The reason is I would like to use it as my return address for selling on eBay. It will save me from paying for a PO Box. I still want to talk to our mail gal just to confirm it’s ok on a regular basis.

You got lucky. The human factor is involved and the local postal employees that handled your mail figured it out. Next time the person that sees that letter may not figure it out and back to the sender it will go. You are just creating more work because the automated system cannot possibly associate that box number with you, those boxes are made for postal lobbies but have been modified to accommodate The Villages delivery system. I can guarantee you there are duplicate numbers throughout The Villages so the automated equipment could not possibly say Box XXXX belongs to John Doe in Hadley. Jane Doe in Charlotte could have the same box number. Just use your street address or go rent a box.

[Bogie Shooter]

I wondered the same thing. I had my daughter mail a letter from California as a test. It was addressed to my full name, Charlotte Mail Center, Box ####, The Villages, FL, Zip. It worked just fine. The reason is I would like to use it as my return address for selling on eBay. It will save me from paying for a PO Box. I still want to talk to our mail gal just to confirm it’s ok on a regular basis.

Why special address for EBay selling?

[Dan9871]

Why special address for EBay selling?

Anonymity, so you don't have to use your home address.

[Dan9871]

I can guarantee you there are duplicate numbers throughout The Villages


But aren't post box numbers duplicated in post offices through out the country?

[John_W]

I wondered the same thing. I had my daughter mail a letter from California as a test. It was addressed to my full name, Charlotte Mail Center, Box ####, The Villages, FL, Zip. It worked just fine. The reason is I would like to use it as my return address for selling on eBay. It will save me from paying for a PO Box. I still want to talk to our mail gal just to confirm it’s ok on a regular basis.

I can see at least two problems if using the box number on eBay. About a 1/3 of the sellers ship Fedex or UPS, they cannot ship to P.O. Boxes, must have a street address. The other problem is when you receive an oversized package too big for a locker, such as a golf club, computer, etc. The postal worker must deliver to your front porch. So he coming from Lady Lake post office enroute to your home and only sees your name and a box number. You would probably get a message in your box, oversized package, go to Lady Lake post office to pick up your delivery.

[Bogie Shooter]

I can see at least two problems if using the box number on eBay. About a 1/3 of the sellers ship Fedex or UPS, they cannot ship to P.O. Boxes, must have a street address. The other problem is when you receive an oversized package too big for a locker, such as a golf club, computer, etc. The postal worker must deliver to your front porch. So he coming from Lady Lake post office enroute to your home and only sees your name and a box number. You would probably get a message in your box, oversized package, go to Lady Lake post office to pick up your delivery.

He wants the address as an EBay seller, not as a buyer.

[Bogie Shooter]

Anonymity, so you don't have to use your home address.
Why is that necessary?

[swooner]

Because they might live on Dressendorfer Drive? Try spelling that to a service rep.

Naming streets after sales reps makes no sense.

[GoodLife]

Naming streets after sales reps makes no sense.

I'll tell you what makes cents, well actually billions.

Being the developer of the world's most successful retirement community, where you name the streets as you damn well please.

[Jdmiata]

You got lucky. The human factor is involved and the local postal employees that handled your mail figured it out. Next time the person that sees that letter may not figure it out and back to the sender it will go. You are just creating more work because the automated system cannot possibly associate that box number with you, those boxes are made for postal lobbies but have been modified to accommodate The Villages delivery system. I can guarantee you there are duplicate numbers throughout The Villages so the automated equipment could not possibly say Box XXXX belongs to John Doe in Hadley. Jane Doe in Charlotte could have the same box number. Just use your street address or go rent a box.

Absolutely correct !

[BogeyBoy]

But aren't post box numbers duplicated in post offices through out the country?

Yes, but the key is each post office section has a separate zip code. Some post office box units are so large they have multiple zip codes within the same building.

[Dan9871]

Why is that necessary?

There is no necessity to it at all. Just a desire for to keep one's physical location private or a keep private the fact that they are running a business out of their home.

[dirtbanker]

There is no necessity to it at all. Just a desire for to keep one's physical location private or a keep private the fact that they are running a business out of their home.Do the covenants allow for a business to be run out of your home?

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[Bogie Shooter]

Do the covenants allow for a business to be run out of your home?

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No.

[biker1]

I believe the following language is used for most, if not all, of the CDDs.

Properties within the subdivision are intended for residential use and no commercial, professional or similar activity requiring either maintaining an inventory, equipment or customer/client visits may be conducted in a Home or on a Homesite.

Presumably if you are not maintaining an inventory, equipment or have customer visits you are good to go. For example, if you had a business doing consulting over the phone you are OK.

Do the covenants allow for a business to be run out of your home?

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[Sandtrap328]

I believe the following language is used for most, if not all, of the CDDs.

Properties within the subdivision are intended for residential use and no commercial, professional or similar activity requiring either maintaining an inventory, equipment or customer/client visits may be conducted in a Home or on a Homesite.

Presumably if you are not maintaining an inventory, equipment or have customer visits you are good to go. For example, if you had a business doing consulting over the phone you are OK.

...and, once again, the CDD only gets involved if there are complaints called in.

I do remember someone running a golf cart rental/repair service out of their garage in Bonita and he always had several golf carts in the driveway looking mighty shabby. It finally got put to an end, I believe.

[biker1]

The question was whether the covenants allowed it. I was answering the question.

...and, once again, the CDD only gets involved if there are complaints called in.

I do remember someone running a golf cart rental/repair service out of their garage in Bonita and he always had several golf carts in the driveway looking mighty shabby. It finally got put to an end, I believe.

[dirtbanker]

I believe the following language is used for most, if not all, of the CDDs.

Properties within the subdivision are intended for residential use and no commercial, professional or similar activity requiring either maintaining an inventory, equipment or customer/client visits may be conducted in a Home or on a Homesite.

Presumably if you are not maintaining an inventory, equipment or have customer visits you are good to go. For example, if you had a business doing consulting over the phone you are OK.Thanks for looking it up.


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[dirtbanker]

...and, once again, the CDD only gets involved if there are complaints called in.

I do remember someone running a golf cart rental/repair service out of their garage in Bonita and he always had several golf carts in the driveway looking mighty shabby. It finally got put to an end, I believe.And evidently there are not a lot of people complaining on the north side of the bridge...as there are a few golf cart graveyards!



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[theruizs]

I don’t think that’s true, but Like I said, best to check with your mail person first.

[theruizs]

I would use it as a seller.

[theruizs]

So I don’t get people showing up at my house unexpectedly. And yes, my wife agrees, I have gotten a bit paranoid these days ;-)

[theruizs]

Yes to keeping my home’s exact location private. But we are just selling some of the stuff we’ve collected over our lives, not running a business.

[theruizs]

Now I see why it’s a good idea to quote the post you are replying to. Sorry about the apparently disconnected posts.