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Taltarzac725
12-30-2017, 09:44 AM
A storm is gathering - The Washington Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/a-storm-is-gathering/2017/12/28/a03dc436-ec01-11e7-b698-91d4e35920a3_story.html?tid=ss_fb&utm_term=.c3ce875800eb)

There is a storm on the horizon.

Villagesperson
12-30-2017, 09:52 AM
A storm is gathering - The Washington Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/a-storm-is-gathering/2017/12/28/a03dc436-ec01-11e7-b698-91d4e35920a3_story.html?tid=ss_fb&utm_term=.c3ce875800eb)

There is a storm on the horizon.

From this link....

"The reckoning upon us follows a year mercifully drawing to a close this weekend. Over that horrid year, President Trump has questioned the legitimacy of federal judges, used Stalinist barbs to attack the free press and cast contempt on the rule of law, while his campaign manager, his national security adviser and a foreign policy aide have been marched into federal courts. Those anti-democratic instincts were made all the more ominous by his praising of autocrats across the world as they were ruthlessly consolidating power in countries such as Russia, China and the Philippines."

"World leaders continue to watch dumbstruck as the United States retreats from organizations that were created following the allies’ victory over Hitler. Those same alliances that Trump now undermines with reckless tweets and discarded treaties carried the United States to victory in the Cold War. But this is a White House that heaps contempt on history. And so, America’s dangerous retreat from the world continues."

Allegiance
12-30-2017, 10:05 AM
What a great year!!

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171230/6dc82542183bb2bba2eb8cc54d701442.jpg

Allegiance
12-30-2017, 10:06 AM
What a great year!!

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171230/6dc82542183bb2bba2eb8cc54d701442.jpgLet's hope that we get reciprocity on concealed carry that would be a great 2018 resolution for our great PRESIDENT.

jebartle
12-30-2017, 12:36 PM
Let's hope that we get reciprocity on concealed carry that would be a great 2018 resolution for our great PRESIDENT.


NOW THIS IS FAKE FOX NEWS! Please please fact chevk!

Rockyrd
12-30-2017, 01:38 PM
Unbelievable but true. This is from a letter written in August of 1792....1792 by Alexander Hamilton. Strikes close to home and very current

The truth unquestionably is, that the only path to a subversion of the republican system of the Country is, by flattering the prejudices of the people, and exciting their jealousies and apprehensions, to throw affairs into confusion, and bring on civil commotion. Tired at length of anarchy, or want of government, they may take shelter in the arms of monarchy for repose and security.

Those then, who resist a confirmation of public order, are the true Artificers of monarchy—not that this is the intention of the generality of them. Yet it would not be difficult to lay the finger upon some of their party who may justly be suspected. When a man unprincipled in private life desperate in his fortune, bold in his temper, possessed of considerable talents, having the advantage of military habits—despotic in his ordinary demeanour—known to have scoffed in private at the principles of liberty—when such a man is seen to mount the hobby horse of popularity—to join in the cry of danger to liberty—to take every opportunity of embarrassing the General Government & bringing it under suspicion—to flatter and fall in with all the non sense of the zealots of the day—It may justly be suspected that his object is to throw things into confusion that he may “ride the storm and direct the whirlwind.”

Not to Be THAT Guy, but This Alexander Hamilton Quote is Basically About Trump :: Politics :: News :: Alexander Hamilton :: Paste (https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2017/03/not-to-be-that-guy-but-this-alexander-hamilton-quo.html)

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Allegiance
12-30-2017, 01:40 PM
NOW THIS IS FAKE FOX NEWS! Please please fact chevk!What is fake news? Since when can a hope actually be fake news?

You should thank the taxpayers for subsidizing your property taxes and not try to talk with adults.

Allegiance
12-30-2017, 01:41 PM
Unbelievable but true. This is from a letter written in August of 1792....1792 by Alexander Hamilton. Strikes close to home and very current

The truth unquestionably is, that the only path to a subversion of the republican system of the Country is, by flattering the prejudices of the people, and exciting their jealousies and apprehensions, to throw affairs into confusion, and bring on civil commotion. Tired at length of anarchy, or want of government, they may take shelter in the arms of monarchy for repose and security.

Those then, who resist a confirmation of public order, are the true Artificers of monarchy—not that this is the intention of the generality of them. Yet it would not be difficult to lay the finger upon some of their party who may justly be suspected. When a man unprincipled in private life desperate in his fortune, bold in his temper, possessed of considerable talents, having the advantage of military habits—despotic in his ordinary demeanour—known to have scoffed in private at the principles of liberty—when such a man is seen to mount the hobby horse of popularity—to join in the cry of danger to liberty—to take every opportunity of embarrassing the General Government & bringing it under suspicion—to flatter and fall in with all the non sense of the zealots of the day—It may justly be suspected that his object is to throw things into confusion that he may “ride the storm and direct the whirlwind.”

Not to Be THAT Guy, but This Alexander Hamilton Quote is Basically About Trump :: Politics :: News :: Alexander Hamilton :: Paste (https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2017/03/not-to-be-that-guy-but-this-alexander-hamilton-quo.html)

Alexander Hamilton Quote - When a man unprincipled in private life... | Quote Catalog (https://quotecatalog.com/quote/alexander-hamilton-when-a-man-unpr-b1rW3E7/)What are you even trying to say? Try using bullets, were you ever in business?

Rockyrd
12-30-2017, 01:52 PM
What are you even trying to say? Try using bullets, were you ever in business?

In running a number of business's in my career, I found that any of my employees who required help in reading and comprehension of my memos, such as using bullets, were not worth reaching at all, as that inability to be able to comprehend made them recipients of cartoons or some other type of "fun" activity to help them understand.

Soon, they were simply not copied on certain memos.

Part of running a business is understanding that all are not created equal, and some need remedial help to keep up.

Just read slow and use your index finger to follow the words. Reading it aloud can help perhaps.

Kenswing
12-30-2017, 02:18 PM
Let's hope that we get reciprocity on concealed carry that would be a great 2018 resolution for our great PRESIDENT.

NOW THIS IS FAKE FOX NEWS! Please please fact chevk!
FAKE NEWS? Pull your head out of your a$$. It's already passed the House..

H.R.38 - 115th Congress (2017-2018): Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act of 2017 | Congress.gov | Library of Congress (https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/38?q=%7B%22search%22%3A%5B%22concealed+carry+recip rocity+act%22%5D%7D)

Wiotte
12-30-2017, 02:37 PM
Unbelievable but true. This is from a letter written in August of 1792....1792 by Alexander Hamilton. Strikes close to home and very current

The truth unquestionably is, that the only path to a subversion of the republican system of the Country is, by flattering the prejudices of the people, and exciting their jealousies and apprehensions, to throw affairs into confusion, and bring on civil commotion. Tired at length of anarchy, or want of government, they may take shelter in the arms of monarchy for repose and security.

Those then, who resist a confirmation of public order, are the true Artificers of monarchy—not that this is the intention of the generality of them. Yet it would not be difficult to lay the finger upon some of their party who may justly be suspected. When a man unprincipled in private life desperate in his fortune, bold in his temper, possessed of considerable talents, having the advantage of military habits—despotic in his ordinary demeanour—known to have scoffed in private at the principles of liberty—when such a man is seen to mount the hobby horse of popularity—to join in the cry of danger to liberty—to take every opportunity of embarrassing the General Government & bringing it under suspicion—to flatter and fall in with all the non sense of the zealots of the day—It may justly be suspected that his object is to throw things into confusion that he may “ride the storm and direct the whirlwind.”

Not to Be THAT Guy, but This Alexander Hamilton Quote is Basically About Trump :: Politics :: News :: Alexander Hamilton :: Paste (https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2017/03/not-to-be-that-guy-but-this-alexander-hamilton-quo.html)

Alexander Hamilton Quote - When a man unprincipled in private life... | Quote Catalog (https://quotecatalog.com/quote/alexander-hamilton-when-a-man-unpr-b1rW3E7/)



Amazing. Feel as if I was reading Nostradamus.


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Allegiance
12-30-2017, 02:39 PM
In running a number of business's in my career, I found that any of my employees who required help in reading and comprehension of my memos, such as using bullets, were not worth reaching at all, as that inability to be able to comprehend made them recipients of cartoons or some other type of "fun" activity to help them understand.

Soon, they were simply not copied on certain memos.

Part of running a business is understanding that all are not created equal, and some need remedial help to keep up.

Just read slow and use your index finger to follow the words. Reading it aloud can help perhaps.You are not worth my attention old man. You are truly a fool.

Rockyrd
12-30-2017, 02:50 PM
You are not worth my attention old man. You are truly a fool.

Hoping some day you actually comment on content, instead of the little girl attacks.

You make everyone's opinion of you more accurate with each post you make.

Bog99
12-30-2017, 03:41 PM
Unbelievable but true. This is from a letter written in August of 1792....1792 by Alexander Hamilton. Strikes close to home and very current

The truth unquestionably is, that the only path to a subversion of the republican system of the Country is, by flattering the prejudices of the people, and exciting their jealousies and apprehensions, to throw affairs into confusion, and bring on civil commotion. Tired at length of anarchy, or want of government, they may take shelter in the arms of monarchy for repose and security.

Those then, who resist a confirmation of public order, are the true Artificers of monarchy—not that this is the intention of the generality of them. Yet it would not be difficult to lay the finger upon some of their party who may justly be suspected. When a man unprincipled in private life desperate in his fortune, bold in his temper, possessed of considerable talents, having the advantage of military habits—despotic in his ordinary demeanour—known to have scoffed in private at the principles of liberty—when such a man is seen to mount the hobby horse of popularity—to join in the cry of danger to liberty—to take every opportunity of embarrassing the General Government & bringing it under suspicion—to flatter and fall in with all the non sense of the zealots of the day—It may justly be suspected that his object is to throw things into confusion that he may “ride the storm and direct the whirlwind.”

Not to Be THAT Guy, but This Alexander Hamilton Quote is Basically About Trump :: Politics :: News :: Alexander Hamilton :: Paste (https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2017/03/not-to-be-that-guy-but-this-alexander-hamilton-quo.html)

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This shows a poor understanding of the meaning of Liberty and the structure of politics.

Please see the following:

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-political-talk-88/structure-politics-type-1-vs-type-2-laws-248949/


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Don Baldwin
12-30-2017, 07:48 PM
In running a number of business's in my career, I found that any of my employees who required help in reading and comprehension of my memos, such as using bullets, were not worth reaching at all, as that inability to be able to comprehend made them recipients of cartoons or some other type of "fun" activity to help them understand.

Soon, they were simply not copied on certain memos.

Part of running a business is understanding that all are not created equal, and some need remedial help to keep up.

Just read slow and use your index finger to follow the words. Reading it aloud can help perhaps.

And we all know the characteristic that most of them share...they are the species Africanus.

mellincf
12-30-2017, 09:37 PM
Let's hope that we get reciprocity on concealed carry that would be a great 2018 resolution for our great PRESIDENT.

As the Second Amendment clearly states: "In order to provide for a well regulated militia..." citizens may own guns. Which "well regulated" militia do YOU belong to?

Kenswing
12-30-2017, 09:41 PM
As the First Amendment clearly states: In order to provide for a well regulated militia..." citizens may own guns. Which "well regulated" militia do YOU belong to?

Might want to learn your Amendments. The one you quoted is the Second.

Ever heard of Freedom of Speech? That would be the First.

That's why Liberals should stay out of gun discussions. They are clueless..

Don Baldwin
12-30-2017, 09:43 PM
As the First Amendment clearly states: In order to provide for a well regulated militia..." citizens may own guns. Which "well regulated" militia do YOU belong to?

We ALL would belong to one...IF...the federal government didn't fear them and all but outlaw them. Militias are demonized.

We were to be a national militia NOT a standing army. We weren't supposed to go "over there"...we were only supposed to protect here.

We have the specific RIGHT to have arms and organize militias.

8notes
12-31-2017, 07:24 AM
From this link....

"The reckoning upon us follows a year mercifully drawing to a close this weekend. Over that horrid year, President Trump has questioned the legitimacy of federal judges, used Stalinist barbs to attack the free press and cast contempt on the rule of law, while his campaign manager, his national security adviser and a foreign policy aide have been marched into federal courts. Those anti-democratic instincts were made all the more ominous by his praising of autocrats across the world as they were ruthlessly consolidating power in countries such as Russia, China and the Philippines."

"World leaders continue to watch dumbstruck as the United States retreats from organizations that were created following the allies’ victory over Hitler. Those same alliances that Trump now undermines with reckless tweets and discarded treaties carried the United States to victory in the Cold War. But this is a White House that heaps contempt on history. And so, America’s dangerous retreat from the world continues."

It is really pathetic how poorly he represents America. I read an article recently that stated how embarrassed his aides were at a meeting he had with Merkel, where he showed his complete ignorance of international agreements. The fact that people close to him are facing real criminal charges, is encouraging. It shows there was wrongdoing and that the Mueller investigation is on firm ground. The Republicans in Congress must see how dangerous Trump is for their party, particularly if Democrats score big in the November elections. There is also serious talk that Trump is suffering early stage dementia. All of these factors certainly point to possible impeachment or removal from office, hopefully the sooner the better.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr
12-31-2017, 07:34 AM
FAKE NEWS? Pull your head out of your a$$. It's already passed the House..

H.R.38 - 115th Congress (2017-2018): Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act of 2017 | Congress.gov | Library of Congress (https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/38?q=%7B%22search%22%3A%5B%22concealed+carry+recip rocity+act%22%5D%7D)

That's interesting, but my quick reading of the bill tells me that carrying in a state that does no grant reprocity will only shield one from federal law. Unless I'm readin it wrong, if you have a FL CCW permit and use it to carry in Massachusetts, you will still be in violation of Massachusetts state laws.

I don't know that the federal government has the power to force states into reciprocity. I believe that drivers license recprocity is based on fifty individual state laws.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr
12-31-2017, 07:39 AM
Unbelievable but true. This is from a letter written in August of 1792....1792 by Alexander Hamilton. Strikes close to home and very current

The truth unquestionably is, that the only path to a subversion of the republican system of the Country is, by flattering the prejudices of the people, and exciting their jealousies and apprehensions, to throw affairs into confusion, and bring on civil commotion. Tired at length of anarchy, or want of government, they may take shelter in the arms of monarchy for repose and security.

Those then, who resist a confirmation of public order, are the true Artificers of monarchy—not that this is the intention of the generality of them. Yet it would not be difficult to lay the finger upon some of their party who may justly be suspected. When a man unprincipled in private life desperate in his fortune, bold in his temper, possessed of considerable talents, having the advantage of military habits—despotic in his ordinary demeanour—known to have scoffed in private at the principles of liberty—when such a man is seen to mount the hobby horse of popularity—to join in the cry of danger to liberty—to take every opportunity of embarrassing the General Government & bringing it under suspicion—to flatter and fall in with all the non sense of the zealots of the day—It may justly be suspected that his object is to throw things into confusion that he may “ride the storm and direct the whirlwind.”

Not to Be THAT Guy, but This Alexander Hamilton Quote is Basically About Trump :: Politics :: News :: Alexander Hamilton :: Paste (https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2017/03/not-to-be-that-guy-but-this-alexander-hamilton-quo.html)

Alexander Hamilton Quote - When a man unprincipled in private life... | Quote Catalog (https://quotecatalog.com/quote/alexander-hamilton-when-a-man-unpr-b1rW3E7/)

It seems that you're assigning these attributes, outlined by Hamilton, to President Trump. What's going on here is that you're regurgitating the left's propaganda. The president is none of these things. You might believe that he is and that's your right. But tens of millions of people disagree with you.

This kind of rhetoric is why it's getting nearly impossible to have a rational conversation about politics. One side states something as if it's the absolute truth when it is merely an opinion and wants to start the conversation with that as a given.

People on both sides of the political spectrum would rather demonize people who disagree with them as opposed to having a rational discussion about different political philosophies.

Until we are all willing to accept that we might not be 100% correct about everything and that we might have something to learn by listening to people with different views, we will never get out of this mess.

I believe that we all have mostly the same goals and values. We simply have different ideas on how to get to a solution.

dirtbanker
12-31-2017, 07:41 AM
Unbelievable but true. This is from a letter written in August of 1792....1792 by Alexander Hamilton. Strikes close to home and very current

The truth unquestionably is, that the only path to a subversion of the republican system of the Country is, by flattering the prejudices of the people, and exciting their jealousies and apprehensions, to throw affairs into confusion, and bring on civil commotion. Tired at length of anarchy, or want of government, they may take shelter in the arms of monarchy for repose and security.

Those then, who resist a confirmation of public order, are the true Artificers of monarchy—not that this is the intention of the generality of them. Yet it would not be difficult to lay the finger upon some of their party who may justly be suspected. When a man unprincipled in private life desperate in his fortune, bold in his temper, possessed of considerable talents, having the advantage of military habits—despotic in his ordinary demeanour—known to have scoffed in private at the principles of liberty—when such a man is seen to mount the hobby horse of popularity—to join in the cry of danger to liberty—to take every opportunity of embarrassing the General Government & bringing it under suspicion—to flatter and fall in with all the non sense of the zealots of the day—It may justly be suspected that his object is to throw things into confusion that he may “ride the storm and direct the whirlwind.”

Not to Be THAT Guy, but This Alexander Hamilton Quote is Basically About Trump :: Politics :: News :: Alexander Hamilton :: Paste (https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2017/03/not-to-be-that-guy-but-this-alexander-hamilton-quo.html)

Alexander Hamilton Quote - When a man unprincipled in private life... | Quote Catalog (https://quotecatalog.com/quote/alexander-hamilton-when-a-man-unpr-b1rW3E7/)

Wow! It certainly made me think of Obamma and the racial division that he inspired, along with the flagrant demise of the ethics of our government by his administration and associates.

It also made me think of Crazy Bernie and his cries of social injustice...except he had no wealth.
(Which seems odd given so many politicians that serve have aquired wealth).

If there was an Alexander Hamilton story about a half woman / half horse that tried to lead the country to oblivion for her own gain...it would definitely remind me of Crooked Hillary.

Seeing how you like to review things from the past that look to be applicable to the present: Did you ever notice how a lot of the technology from Star Trek has come to exist currently? The communicator is a cell phone, the phaser is a laser, they had space shuttles...seems just as foreshadowing as Alexander Hamilton's letters.

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dirtbanker
12-31-2017, 07:44 AM
In running a number of business's in my career, I found that any of my employees who required help in reading and comprehension of my memos, such as using bullets, were not worth reaching at all, as that inability to be able to comprehend made them recipients of cartoons or some other type of "fun" activity to help them understand.

Soon, they were simply not copied on certain memos.

Part of running a business is understanding that all are not created equal, and some need remedial help to keep up.

Just read slow and use your index finger to follow the words. Reading it aloud can help perhaps.

Running a number of business...LOL, thanks for that!

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Rockyrd
12-31-2017, 07:48 AM
Wow! It certainly me think of Obamma and the racial division that he inspired, along with the flagrant demise of ethics of pur government by his administration and associates.

It also made me think of Crazy Bernie and his cries of social injustice...except he had no wealth.
(Which seems odd given so many politicians that serve have aquired wealth).

If there was an Alexander Hamilton story about a half woman / half horse that tried to lead the country to oblivion for her own gain? It would definitely remind me of Crooked Hillary...

Seeing how you like to review things from the past that look to be applicable to the present: Did you ever notice how a lot of the technology from Star Trek has come to exist currently? The communicator is a cell phone, the phaser is a laser, they had space shuttles...seems just as foreshadowing as Alexander Hamilton's letters.

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As always...always.....you go back to Clinton or OBama INSTEAD OF ADDRESSING THE ACTUAL CONTENT of the post.


I suppose that is understandable, supporting a nut case who has kept you and your ilks on the defense for over a year.

Fall back is always OBama or Clinton....heck...Trump still does that, even when he contradicts himself which is pretty much always.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr
12-31-2017, 07:52 AM
As the First Amendment clearly states: "In order to provide for a well regulated militia..." citizens may own guns. Which "well regulated" militia do YOU belong to?

I believe that this question has been dealt with by The Supreme Court. You have every right to disagree with that decision and if it's important to you, you should work to petition the court to reverse their decision.

The law, in this country, per order of The Supreme Judicial Court is that citizens have the right to carry firearms with some restrictions applied.

You may not like the law, but it is the law.

Rockyrd
12-31-2017, 07:54 AM
It is really pathetic how poorly he represents America. I read an article recently that stated how embarrassed his aides were at a meeting he had with Merkel, where he showed his complete ignorance of international agreements. The fact that people close to him are facing real criminal charges, is encouraging. It shows there was wrongdoing and that the Mueller investigation is on firm ground. The Republicans in Congress must see how dangerous Trump is for their party, particularly if Democrats score big in the November elections. There is also serious talk that Trump is suffering early stage dementia. All of these factors certainly point to possible impeachment or removal from office, hopefully the sooner the better.

The Papadopoulos news of the last 24 hours, and the fact Mueller brought him in first just goes to show how much Mueller’s team knows and what small spec of it is in the public domain. We’re just gonna have to be patient and protect the special counsel, our institutions and democracy until then

Taltarzac725
12-31-2017, 07:56 AM
The Papadopoulos news of the last 24 hours, and the fact Mueller brought him in first just goes to show how much Mueller’s team knows and what small spec of it is in the public domain. We’re just gonna have to be patient and protect the special counsel, our institutions and democracy until then

I hope that we stay the course and respect the Rule of Law. I have seen little respect for the US Constitution from Donald John Trump. He acts like some kind of banana republic dictator. America the Banana Republic (http://billmoyers.com/story/america-banana-republic-government/)

Donald Trump’s banana republic - The Boston Globe (https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/columns/2016/10/10/trump-banana-republic/TuVox5pT1OjbIxLnDvgtPJ/story.html)

Don Baldwin
12-31-2017, 07:59 AM
That's interesting, but my quick reading of the bill tells me that carrying in a state that does no grant reprocity will only shield one from federal law. Unless I'm readin it wrong, if you have a FL CCW permit and use it to carry in Massachusetts, you will still be in violation of Massachusetts state laws.

I don't know that the federal government has the power to force states into reciprocity. I believe that drivers license recprocity is based on fifty individual state laws.

If it's decided that it's a Constitutional right...HOW can a state make laws against it?

It would be like limiting speech state by state. You could say n!@@er in Alabama and Mississippi...but not in New York or Pennsylvania. Oh wait...we CAN'T say that word anywhere...we DON'T have "Constitutionally guaranteed" freedom of speech...do we? ONLY the minorities actually HAVE freedom of speech...they can say ALL words...ANY words...only white people are restricted and censored.

Rockyrd
12-31-2017, 08:06 AM
It seems that you're assigning these attributes, outlined by Hamilton, to President Trump. What's going on here is that you're regurgitating the left's propaganda. The president is none of these things. You might believe that he is and that's your right. But tens of millions of people disagree with you.

This kind of rhetoric is why it's getting nearly impossible to have a rational conversation about politics. One side states something as if it's the absolute truth when it is merely an opinion and wants to start the conversation with that as a given.

People on both sides of the political spectrum would rather demonize people who disagree with them as opposed to having a rational discussion about different political philosophies.

Until we are all willing to accept that we might not be 100% correct about everything and that we might have something to learn by listening to people with different views, we will never get out of this mess.

I believe that we all have mostly the same goals and values. We simply have different ideas on how to get to a solution.

Disagreeing is not, never has been, the issue.

Mocking the truth is the issue.

"Donald Trump in one year has done more to discredit and diminish truth, facts and media than any other figure in our lifetime.

You might love his middle finger to the media. But even the strongest of Trump backers should think long and hard about a world without facts and common truths."


Trump effect: a worldwide "fake news" crisis - Axios (https://www.axios.com/the-trump-cry-heard-round-the-world-2520976693.html)

There is no rational conversation that can be had with a liar

Don Baldwin
12-31-2017, 08:07 AM
Wow! It certainly made me think of Obamma and the racial division that he inspired, along with the flagrant demise of the ethics of our government by his administration and associates.

It also made me think of Crazy Bernie and his cries of social injustice...except he had no wealth.
(Which seems odd given so many politicians that serve have aquired wealth).

If there was an Alexander Hamilton story about a half woman / half horse that tried to lead the country to oblivion for her own gain...it would definitely remind me of Crooked Hillary.

Seeing how you like to review things from the past that look to be applicable to the present: Did you ever notice how a lot of the technology from Star Trek has come to exist currently? The communicator is a cell phone, the phaser is a laser, they had space shuttles...seems just as foreshadowing as Alexander Hamilton's letters.

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Science fiction inspires smart white males who already have the brains and curiosity...it gives them a mission.

What is the "mission" for most women and minorities? To outnumber "us" and drive the country into the ground...more of "them"...less of "us"...and lower and lower in world standings. Bravo ladies! You think you're creating Heaven...you're really creating Hell.

Go SEE what 80% minorities looks like BEFORE you drive the entire country there. MLK Blvd is a great start for your education in demographics and it's effect on a country/culture.

Don Baldwin
12-31-2017, 08:48 AM
Disagreeing is not, never has been, the issue.

Mocking the truth is the issue.

"Donald Trump in one year has done more to discredit and diminish truth, facts and media than any other figure in our lifetime.

You might love his middle finger to the media. But even the strongest of Trump backers should think long and hard about a world without facts and common truths."


Trump effect: a worldwide "fake news" crisis - Axios (https://www.axios.com/the-trump-cry-heard-round-the-world-2520976693.html)

There is no rational conversation that can be had with a liar

That's what we live in NOW..."a world without facts and common truths".

Lies are everywhere. The "media" doesn't give you the truth...it gives you propaganda.

Rockyrd
12-31-2017, 09:20 AM
That's what we live in NOW..."a world without facts and common truths".

Lies are everywhere. The "media" doesn't give you the truth...it gives you propaganda.

The mainstream media, as you know, gives facts, despite the lying from the President of the United States.

If you are not aware of this fact, then you have certainly not been paying much attention to reality.

Don Baldwin
12-31-2017, 09:47 AM
The mainstream media, as you know, gives facts, despite the lying from the President of the United States.

If you are not aware of this fact, then you have certainly not been paying much attention to reality.

The mainstream media gives you OPINION and very little "facts".

I lived "reality" rocky...I did war planning, I deployed troops and equipment...I know what went, where, and why.

The public...obviously...did NOT.

It's a part of military operations...misdirection...propaganda. It's ALSO part of "political operations".

If YOU hear of the truth...it's part of the plan..it's deliberate...they WANT everyone, including the enemy...to know.

What good is a doomsday weapon...if you don't tell anyone about it?

Notice you don't hear anything about aircraft carries and where they are? All that talk a few months ago about carriers heading towards NK, a bunch already there...that was all bullsh!t. You'll know it's real when troops start deploying. When your grandson gets deployed to SK or Japan. When the reservists get their notice to start packing.

NK is NOT a problem unless we MAKE it a problem. You ignorant fools KNOW nothing. NK is a Korean society that just wants to be left the f@ck alone! They're smart Asians who figured out that the ONLY way NOT to be taken over by anyone...is to be a nuclear power. That's their...leave me the f@ck alone or I'll bleed you card. NK is isolated because they WANT to be isolated. The people aren't starving, I've NEVER seen starving people in the pictures "smuggled" out. Actually...I see CLEAN cities and clean people. It's ALL propaganda. We're told by our country the same lies their country tells about us.

We did the same sh!t to Japan during WWII...we embargoed them, blocked everything coming in...until they FINALLY struck out at us...in a "sneak" attack. We BAITED Japan into attacking...we FORCED them to do something. "America" is run by real douchebags.

Rockyrd
12-31-2017, 09:58 AM
The mainstream media gives you OPINION and very little "facts".

I lived "reality" rocky...I did war planning, I deployed troops and equipment...I know what went, where, and why.

The public...obviously...did NOT.

It's a part of military operations...misdirection...propaganda. It's ALSO part of "political operations".

If YOU hear of the truth...it's part of the plan..it's deliberate...they WANT everyone, including the enemy...to know.

What good is a doomsday weapon...if you don't tell anyone about it?

Notice you don't hear anything about aircraft carries and where they are? All that talk a few months ago about carriers heading towards NK, a bunch already there...that was all bullsh!t. You'll know it's real when troops start deploying. When your grandson gets deployed to SK or Japan. When the reservists get their notice to start packing.

NK is NOT a problem unless we MAKE it a problem. You ignorant fools KNOW nothing. NK is a Korean society that just wants to be left the f@ck alone! They're smart Asians who figured out that the ONLY way NOT to be taken over by anyone...is to be a nuclear power. That's their...leave me the f@ck alone or I'll bleed you card. NK is isolated because they WANT to be isolated. The people aren't starving, I've NEVER seen starving people in the pictures "smuggled" out. Actually...I see CLEAN cities and clean people. It's ALL propaganda. We're told by our country the same lies their country tells about us.

We did the same sh!t to Japan during WWII...we embargoed them, blocked everything coming in...until they FINALLY struck out at us...in a "sneak" attack. We BAITED Japan into attacking...we FORCED them to do something. "America" is run by real douchebags.

I think you know that when this discussion of the media takes place, it is not about military planning.

I think you should be proud of whatever you did in the past, BUT IT IS THE PAST.

We are speaking of misleading the American citizens on a daily basis, not on military planning as you seem to always want to make it about, but policies that affect them on a daily basis.

The mainstream media (excepting Fox on some occassions) do not lie...I have been asking for an example of a lie in reporting (not commentary) but never receive one. And from you we get either another war story OR your racial hatred spew.

Go back to wherever you live....stay out of here.

Don Baldwin
12-31-2017, 10:38 AM
I think you know that when this discussion of the media takes place, it is not about military planning.

I think you should be proud of whatever you did in the past, BUT IT IS THE PAST.

We are speaking of misleading the American citizens on a daily basis, not on military planning as you seem to always want to make it about, but policies that affect them on a daily basis.

The mainstream media (excepting Fox on some occassions) do not lie...I have been asking for an example of a lie in reporting (not commentary) but never receive one. And from you we get either another war story OR your racial hatred spew.

Go back to wherever you live....stay out of here.

Sure it is...the middle east, syria, afghanastan, iraq, iran, S.A., yemen, NK, Russia, China...it's ALL about political AND military planning.

I said the government uses the SAME tactics as the military...distractions, misdirections, propaganda...our media is an arm of the government which is just an arm of the wealthy who run the corporations who "donate" to get politicians elected...to serve the wealthy who run the corporations.

YES the mainstream media DOES lie. You won't accept the truth...you call the sources "unreliable" and won't hear any more about it.

You won't go down to MLK Blvd and SEE that I'm being truthful with you. You refuse to visit a black high school to SEE the animal like conditions experienced there. You REFUSE to see the truth. You'd rather sit home and "learn" by viewing propaganda.

Turn off the TV rocky...it's addling your mind. It lies to you. It tries to mold your thinking.

mellincf
01-01-2018, 08:34 AM
Might want to learn your Amendments. The one you quoted is the Second.

Ever heard of Freedom of Speech? That would be the First.

That's why Liberals should stay out of gun discussions. They are clueless..
You are correct, and I changed that. Without a gratuitous insult.

mellincf
01-01-2018, 08:52 AM
Everyone knows Fox is legally registered as "entertainment" and the people there are "entertainers". They do employ a couple of actual journalists, Smith and Wallace, but everyone else is allowed to lie and mislead...Fox has dropped that "fair and balanced" BS. The latest outrage is the Jeanne Pierro and Hannity talk about "purging" the FBI, taken up by a couple of Congressmen. Once the regular media pointed out the similarities to Stalin and Hitler, I believe Fox shut that talk down fairly quickly. The "Uranium One" rant by Hannity was also shut down by Shep Smith, who pointedly listed actual facts.

I follow Fox comments on Facebook and notice the overwhelming number of posters are poorly educated. I really believe the great divide in this country is not so much politics and wealth, as it is in well educated and poorly educated. And I notice lately conservatives have some sort of a war going on against education. The word "liberal" is always associated with the word "education".

The Fake Reality of ‘Fox & Friends’ - POLITICO Magazine (https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/07/fox-news-and-friends-gretchen-carlson-steve-doocy-brian-kilmeade-sexual-harassment-roger-ailes-lawsuit-214029)

Taltarzac725
01-01-2018, 08:57 AM
Everyone knows Fox is legally registered as "entertainment" and the people there are "entertainers". They do employ a couple of actual journalists, Smith and Wallace, but everyone else is allowed to lie and mislead...Fox has dropped that "fair and balanced" BS. The latest outrage is the Jeanne Pierro and Hannity talk about "purging" the FBI, taken up by a couple of Congressmen. Once the regular media pointed out the similarities to Stalin and Hitler, I believe Fox shut that talk down fairly quickly. The "Uranium One" rant by Hannity was also shut down by Shep Smith, who pointedly listed actual facts.

I follow Fox comments on Facebook and notice the overwhelming number of posters are poorly educated. I really believe the great divide in this country is not so much politics and wealth, as it is in well educated and poorly educated. And I notice lately conservatives have some sort of a war going on against education. The word "liberal" is always associated with the word "education".

‘Pants On Fire’: Analysis Shows 60% Of Fox News ‘Facts’ Are Really Lies (http://www.mintpressnews.com/pants-on-fire-analysis-shows-60-of-fox-news-facts-are-really-lies/205563/)

You see that on here with all the attacks against libraries and librarians. From the huge TRUMP supporters too and some of these posters lie almost as much as Donald John Trump.

There were some honest Trump supporters on here but they seemed to have taken a powder.

Allegiance
01-01-2018, 08:59 AM
You see that on here with all the attacks against libraries and librarians. From the huge TRUMP supporters too and some of these posters lie almost as much as Donald John Trump.Said by the person who can't tell the truth.


Signed Gene

Taltarzac725
01-01-2018, 09:43 AM
Said by the person who can't tell the truth.


Signed Gene

Criminal harassment from Allegiance but his claiming he is Gene will help when I submit a report to the Sumter County Sheriff's Office about this long term criminal harassment by Allegiance and a few others. There is an awful lot of evidence of this CRIMINAL harassment on here now.

Don Baldwin
01-01-2018, 09:58 AM
Criminal harassment from Allegiance but his claiming he is Gene will help when I submit a report to the Sumter County Sheriff's Office about this long term criminal harassment by Allegiance and a few others. There is an awful lot of evidence of this CRIMINAL harassment on here now.

Change your name Tal and act like a normal person...the harassment will stop.

Can you do that?

Or...is it YOU that has the problem?

"Some of them want to use you
Some of them want to get used by you
Some of them want to abuse you
Some of them want to be abused"

Chi-Town
01-01-2018, 10:06 AM
Change your name Tal and act like a normal person...

Can you do that?

You first Donny B, you first.

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dirtbanker
01-01-2018, 10:09 AM
You first Donny B, you first.

Sent from my SM-N910V using TapatalkHow is THAT going to address the wackadoodle?

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Allegiance
01-01-2018, 10:14 AM
How is THAT going to address the wackadoodle?

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G890A using TapatalkMaybe Chi-Town and Tal are the same person.


Same mentality.

I already told Tal I would I would stipulate to everything at the sherrifs Office.

Just say when and where Tal buddy. This way the totv would not have to he involved.

Chi-Town, try to speak to your boy, assuming you are not him.


Signed Gene
(worlds best judge of character and Football handicapper)

dirtbanker
01-01-2018, 10:17 AM
Maybe Chi-Town and Tal are the same person.

Same mentality.
Nah...Chi just has that co dependency issue.

The wackadoodle could not masquerade as anyone else, it's all about him...

Gene has done very well in the football pool.


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Taltarzac725
01-01-2018, 10:19 AM
You first Donny B, you first.

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Coming from Donald Baldwin that is really amusing.

Too bad Ron Ski's post did not work for removing Baldwin from this site. Baldwin does have a First Amendment right to spread his racist filth, however, but CRIMINAL harassers on here have no such right. I have no idea why Talk of the Villagers' Moderators have not banned the people who harass other individual posters. It is not allowed at all on the REGULAR Forum but is in it seems 9/10 of the posts on the Political Forum.

Carl in Tampa also tried to stop this harassment but it continues.

Allegiance
01-01-2018, 10:21 AM
Coming from Donald Baldwin that is really amusing.

Too bad Ron Ski's post did not work for removing Baldwin from this site. Baldwin does have a First Amendment right to spread his racist filth, however, but CRIMINAL harassers on here have no such right. I have no idea why Talk of the Villagers' Moderators have not banned the people who harass other individual posters. It is not allowed at all on the REGULAR Forum but is in it seems 9/10 of the posts on the Political Forum.

Carl in Tampa also tried to stop this harassment but it continues.Carl left you buddy. He hates you too.


Gene

Don Baldwin
01-01-2018, 10:38 AM
Coming from Donald Baldwin that is really amusing.

Too bad Ron Ski's post did not work for removing Baldwin from this site. Baldwin does have a First Amendment right to spread his racist filth, however, but CRIMINAL harassers on here have no such right. I have no idea why Talk of the Villagers' Moderators have not banned the people who harass other individual posters. It is not allowed at all on the REGULAR Forum but is in it seems 9/10 of the posts on the Political Forum.

Carl in Tampa also tried to stop this harassment but it continues.

That's right Tal...join the other little girls who "solve" problems by ignoring them and shooting the messenger.

It MAY be "racist"...but it's as true as...the sun will rise again tomorrow.

In fact...it's SO true that I can tell you with 100% accuracy if a neighborhood is 99% white or black...just by seeing pictures.

It's SO true, I can tell if it's a white school or a black school...just by seeing pictures.

I can tell if the audience is white or black just by hearing the music.

I can yell if the writer is white or black just by reading their work.

I can yell if it's a white or black speaking just by listening.

I can tell by grades whether it's a white or black.

I can tell by looking at bones the race.

I can tell by looking at musculature the race.

I can tell by susceptibility to disease the race.

I can tell by looking at them the race.

I can tell by the smell the race.

I can tell by their actions the race.

DNA, genes, genetics, can all determine the race.

We are different species!

We have NOTHING in common.

Chi-Town
01-01-2018, 11:44 AM
Maybe Chi-Town and Tal are the same person.


Same mentality.

I already told Tal I would I would stipulate to everything at the sherrifs Office.

Just say when and where Tal buddy. This way the totv would not have to he involved.

Chi-Town, try to speak to your boy, assuming you are not him.


Signed Gene
(worlds best judge of character and Football handicapper)Nah...Chi just has that co dependency issue.

The wackadoodle could not masquerade as anyone else, it's all about him...

Gene has done very well in the football pool.


Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G890A using TapatalkI get a kick out of how you two rally around your boy Donny B. Kind of Manson like but still entertaining.

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dirtbanker
01-01-2018, 11:57 AM
I get a kick out of how you two rally around your boy Donny B. Kind of Manson like but still entertaining.

Sent from my VS995 using TapatalkAl accused you of being a lazy POS bust out loser...I said you were not that bad.
I was defending you Chi...

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Wiotte
01-01-2018, 11:59 AM
That's right Tal...join the other little girls who "solve" problems by ignoring them and shooting the messenger.

It MAY be "racist"...but it's as true as...the sun will rise again tomorrow.

In fact...it's SO true that I can tell you with 100% accuracy if a neighborhood is 99% white or black...just by seeing pictures.

It's SO true, I can tell if it's a white school or a black school...just by seeing pictures.

I can tell if the audience is white or black just by hearing the music.

I can yell if the writer is white or black just by reading their work.

I can yell if it's a white or black speaking just by listening.

I can tell by grades whether it's a white or black.

I can tell by looking at bones the race.

I can tell by looking at musculature the race.

I can tell by susceptibility to disease the race.

I can tell by looking at them the race.

I can tell by the smell the race.

I can tell by their actions the race.

DNA, genes, genetics, can all determine the race.

We are different species!

We have NOTHING in common.



You seem to take the same ideas putting each one into a bingo ball mixer and read them out just a little bit different each time. If you attempted to write a book on this subject you’d find out it would resemble Cat in the Hat including illustrations.


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Don Baldwin
01-01-2018, 12:17 PM
You seem to take the same ideas putting each one into a bingo ball mixer and read them out just a little bit different each time. If you attempted to write a book on this subject you’d find out it would resemble Cat in the Hat including illustrations.


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And there you go again...wiotte...much sound and fury...yet signifying nothing.

To YOU it appears that way...it's merely me trying to explain a simple concept to you.

PROVE that ANY of the things I said are NOT correct.

You can't...so you do this...attack the messenger.

WHY are you so protective of them? WHY would you want them anywhere near you? LOOK at what they do...look at what happens when THEY show up. The school turns to sh!t...the neighborhood turns to sh!t...the city turns to sh!t...the country turns to sh!t.

WHY can't you see it? WHY can't you see it's THEM. You're putting the animals in charge of the zoo.

Wiotte
01-01-2018, 12:18 PM
And there you go again...wiotte...much sound and fury...yet signifying nothing.



PROVE that ANY of the things I said are NOT correct.



You can't...so you do this...attack the messenger.



WHY are you so protective of them? WHY would you want them anywhere near you? LOOK at what they do...look at what happens when THEY show up. The school turns to sh!t...the neighborhood turns to sh!t...the city turns to sh!t...the country turns to sh!t.



WHY can't you see it? WHY can't you see it's THEM. You're putting the animals in charge of the zoo.



I want you to expand on your logic. It’s too simplistic and no longer thought provoking.


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Kenswing
01-01-2018, 12:37 PM
You see that on here with all the attacks against libraries and librarians. From the huge TRUMP supporters too and some of these posters lie almost as much as Donald John Trump.

There were some honest Trump supporters on here but they seemed to have taken a powder.

CRIMINAL HARASSMENT by Taltarzac725..

Allegiance
01-01-2018, 12:40 PM
CRIMINAL HARASSMENT by Taltarzac725..If I knew who he was I might go talk to the Sumter county sherrifs Office.

But since this is an anonymous, guest, opt in forum, they might think I am crazy and baker act me.