33% of Millenials live with their parents

[MorTech]

Bad tax slaves! Get out there and work! I need your money!

A Third of American Millennials Live with Their Parents! - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JDemDWPCog)

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Bad tax slaves! Get out there and work! I need your money!

A Third of American Millennials Live with Their Parents! - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JDemDWPCog)

Just because they live with their parents doesn't mean that they don't work and pay taxes.

I'm sure that percentage don't but unemployment is now at an all-time low so I don't know how it's possible that 33% of these people are not working and paying taxes.

[Allegiance]

Nothing worse than a lazy Millennium, oh wait there is one thing much worse, Taltarzac725, 58 years old with so many degrees, banned in his "field" and too lazy to ever have worked anywhere else.

Will beg his mommy for money this week to buy a book. You might ask if he can read books and post continuously on the internet....why can't he work?


If I can quote a smart man..... "Tal is a POS bust out loser."

[Don Baldwin]

Just because they live with their parents doesn't mean that they don't work and pay taxes.

I'm sure that percentage don't but unemployment is now at an all-time low so I don't know how it's possible that 33% of these people are not working and paying taxes.

Part time jobs don't pay enough to pay taxes.

The whites don't have jobs because 20% of jobs are reserved for minorities via quotas.

[Wiotte]

Just because they live with their parents doesn't mean that they don't work and pay taxes.



I'm sure that percentage don't but unemployment is now at an all-time low so I don't know how it's possible that 33% of these people are not working and paying taxes.



I left home at 18 not knowing if I would get a job or not. What I knew was I needed to stake my own claim. This new generation have no sense of adventure.


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[Taltarzac725]

I left home at 18 not knowing if I would get a job or not. What I knew was I needed to stake my own claim. This new generation have no sense of adventure.


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Good for you wiotte. I was busy earning degrees in the hope that I would be treated fairly by the powers that be. I was not. It is a lot more complicated than that. When you fight city hall though you face consequences and with enough friends you can eventually win by changing City Hall but you do need to eat while that is happening. And if you run into someone who wants to take credit for your hard work of years due to his famous name and people's quick assumptions and cognitive dissonance, that is a problem. I mean Gene Coppola and his "offer" to get 50% of all the grants that the Palm Harbor Library could get from my 224 613 Project as it was in July or so of 2000. This was a few minutes into my first sit down with Coppola. I knew NOTHING about this person. And, librarians, like regular people have bad eggs as well as good ones.

And people like Allegiance, dirtbanker, affald, and their ilk sure not have helped all that much on here with the progress of this Project.

[Allegiance]

Good for you wiotte. I was busy earning degrees in the hope that I would be treated fairly by the powers that be. I was not. It is a lot more complicated than that. When you fight city hall though you face consequences and with enough friends you can eventually win by changing City Hall but you do need to eat while that is happening. And if you run into someone who wants to take credit for your hard work of years due to his famous name and people's quick assumptions and cognitive dissonance, that is a problem. I mean Gene Coppola and his "offer" to get 50% of all the grants that the Palm Harbor Library could get from my 224 613 Project as it was in July or so of 2000. This was a few minutes into my first sit down with Coppola. I knew NOTHING about this person. And, librarians, like regular people have bad eggs as well as good ones.

And people like Allegiance, dirtbanker, affald, and their ilk sure not have helped all that much on here with the progress of this Project.You have still produced zero proof of a project. Zero.

Even W... RickeyD. Et al. Think you are a POS bust out loser

[Taltarzac725]

You have still produced zero proof of a project. Zero.

Even W... RickeyD. Et al. Think you are a POS bust out loser

I do wish that the cops would take action against you Allegiance for months of unwanted CRIMINAL harassment of me. Statutes & Constitution
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I am not sure what is happening with the moderator and the complaints I made about your long term harassment of me. And the shut down of this Political Forum. Maybe the police want more evidence on me or you. But they could see that I am telling the truth at least as much as I can get at with my very limited resources. Hell the Trump Administration might even be helping. That would be ironic. I am pretty sure that Ivanka Trump can see the value of this work as could Donald John Trump.

[Wiotte]

You have still produced zero proof of a project. Zero.

Even W... RickeyD. Et al. Think you are a POS bust out loser



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[Allegiance]

I do wish that the cops would take action against you Allegiance for months of unwanted CRIMINAL harassment of me. Statutes & Constitution
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[Allegiance]

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Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkYou do not deny you think he is a POS bust out loser

[Taltarzac725]

You do not deny you think he is a POS bust out loser

Recording this. More criminal harassment for Allegiance. Statutes & Constitution
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[Wiotte]

You do not deny you think he is a POS bust out loser



I don’t know Tal personally and he’s done me no harm. I think you’re projecting a piece of yourself or someone or something close to you. All these negative feelings are unhealthy for both of you.

“1 Judge not, that ye be not judged. 2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. 3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?”


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[Taltarzac725]

I don’t know Tal personally and he’s done me no harm. I think you’re projecting a piece of yourself or someone or something close to you. All these negative feelings are unhealthy for both of you.

“1 Judge not, that ye be not judged. 2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. 3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?”


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Allegiance enjoys the criminal harassment of me on this Political Forum and in the NFL Yahoo Pick-Em and the NFL Survivor League with the use of the names Gene Coppola, Michelle, Mitchell, and Cathy Woods L8. Gene Coppola OSHA is also used. Killing Time: DNA evidence turns up heat on cold case (http://www.kolotv.com/home/headlines/Killing-Time-DNA-Evidence-Turns-Up-Heat-On-A-Cold-Case-259142291.html)

I do not understand why the Moderators have not banned Allegiance. They seem to be giving him the weapon to torment me for months and months.

I know the IGNORE feature and this is a site that people come on voluntarily and at their risk. But if you have some one hitting someone else in the nuts in the private room at the Nancy Lopez Country Club, the police would be called.

[Allegiance]

I don’t know Tal personally and he’s done me no harm. I think you’re projecting a piece of yourself or someone or something close to you. All these negative feelings are unhealthy for both of you.

“1 Judge not, that ye be not judged. 2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. 3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?”


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkAll might be true. But why won't he say a little word. ... TRUCE

Answer...He secretly, not very secretly, loves the attention I give him. No one else does.

Why has he been caught in so many lies, yet falsely calls others a liar?

Answer... he is truly evil with no sense of right or wrong and zero work ethic.

[Taltarzac725]

All might be true. But why won't he say a little word. ... TRUCE

Answer...He secretly, not very secretly, loves the attention I give him. No one else does.

Why has he been caught in so many lies, yet falsely calls others a liar?

Answer... he is truly evil with no sense of right or wrong and zero work ethic.

Recording this. Bull****. Statutes & Constitution
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Contact the Sumter County Sheriff's Department if you want to see who is lying and who is not.

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I am sick of this person's bullying.

[Wiotte]

Recording this. Bull****. Statutes & Constitution
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Contact the Sumter County Sheriff's Department if you want to see who is lying and who is not.

Welcome to the Sumter County Sheriff's Office Website (http://www.sumtercountysheriff.org/)

I am sick of this person's bullying.


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[Allegiance]

Recording this. Bull****. Statutes & Constitution
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Contact the Sumter County Sheriff's Department if you want to see who is lying and who is not.

Welcome to the Sumter County Sheriff's Office Website (http://www.sumtercountysheriff.org/)

I am sick of this person's bullying.What is untrue buddy? What is your work history? What is your projected social security based on earnings? What did you Get On your SAT and LAST?

GIVE us concrete evidence that what I say is BULLSHlT, come on answer these simple questions.

The big question and the police will ask, why do you not just say TRUCE?

[dirtbanker]

I am not sure what is happening with the moderator and the complaints I made about your long term harassment of me. And the shut down of this Political Forum. Maybe the police want more evidence on me or you. But they could see that I am telling the truth at least as much as I can get at with my very limited resources. Hell the Trump Administration might even be helping. That would be ironic. I am pretty sure that Ivanka Trump can see the value of this work as could Donald John Trump.
The moderators, nor the police, give a RATS a ss about your complaints. NOBODY likes you!

Trump and Ivanka, will not be helping you watch movies looking for numbers...


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[dirtbanker]

You do not deny you think he is a POS bust out loserNobody can deny that he is a LAZY POS BUST OUT LOSER!

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[dirtbanker]

Bad tax slaves! Get out there and work! I need your money!

A Third of American Millennials Live with Their Parents! - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JDemDWPCog)My 25 year old son owns his own house...my 23 year old daughter just graduated UM with a BSN this past spring, has a job in Trauma ward, and is looking at homes (she worked while going to school and has $ saved up for down payment). I guess they are the 66%...

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[dirtbanker]

I left home at 18 not knowing if I would get a job or not. What I knew was I needed to stake my own claim. This new generation have no sense of adventure.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkIn talking with the millenials, I noticed a lot of them did not have "toys" on their mind. I seldom heard about desires to have fast cars, boats, motorcycles, and the such. I know when I was young, those desires motivated me to work for the money to buy the "toys" I hoped for.
They just seem happy enough with less.

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[Allegiance]

In talking with the millenials, I noticed a lot of them did not have "toys" on their mind. I seldom heard about desires to have fast cars, boats, motorcycles, and the such. I know when I was young, those desires motivated me to work for the money to buy the "toys" I hoped for.
They just seem happy enough with less.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G890A using TapatalkLike Talt, they are happy with 3 hots and cot, also, mommy must pay for his internet so he can live out his fantasy project and so many imaginary friends.

[dirtbanker]

Like Talt, they are happy with 3 hots and cot, also, mommy must pay for his internet so he can live out his fantasy project and so many imaginary friends.Somebody has to look for numbers in movies...well actually not.

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[Don Baldwin]

My 25 year old son owns his own house...my 23 year old daughter just graduated UM with a BSN this past spring, has a job in Trauma ward, and is looking at homes (she worked while going to school and has $ saved up for down payment). I guess they are the 66%...

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They are the typical "white debt slaves". They will have one child and work forever.

Negros and Hispanics go the other route...total dependence on government...making up to $60,000 a year in total government benefits. Popping out kids with reckless abandon.

They are the majority now...51%...and growing...minorities have most of the children now.

You SHOULD tell your kids to have LOTS of kids themselves...take back America...make it white again.

[Abby10]

I left home at 18 not knowing if I would get a job or not. What I knew was I needed to stake my own claim. This new generation have no sense of adventure.


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I think you hit the nail on the head with your last statement. Too many young people today are afraid to venture outside their comfort zone to seek opportunities. I did it, and thankfully my son did it when he lost his first job near home after a departmental lay-off. Ironically, he is back here due to a job transfer, but wouldn't hesitate to leave again if need be. In comparing him to many others around here his age, it is amazing how much more he has accumulated both in terms of wealth and experience because he wasn't afraid to take the necessary steps. And now, if need be, he wouldn't hesitate to pack up and go again if he had to.

[dirtbanker]

They are the typical "white debt slaves". They will have one child and work forever.

You SHOULD tell your kids to have LOTS of kids themselves...take back America...make it white again.

I was thinking they might retire early like me, but maybe your right.

A lot of my son's older friends (28 or so) have been having kids. We attended a first birthday for one of them and there had to be 6 newborns in attendance. The parents of the kid that was celebrating the first birthday are expecting again.

Maybe you old single guys could knock a few gals up, instead of just giving them an STD?? jk



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[Don Baldwin]

I think you hit the nail on the head with your last statement. Too many young people today are afraid to venture outside their comfort zone to seek opportunities. I did it, and thankfully my son did it when he lost his first job near home after a departmental lay-off. Ironically, he is back here due to a job transfer, but wouldn't hesitate to leave again if need be. In comparing him to many others around here his age, it is amazing how much more he has accumulated both in terms of wealth and experience because he wasn't afraid to take the necessary steps. And now, if need be, he wouldn't hesitate to pack up and go again if he had to.

His LIFE is his work...instead of the other way around...working to live.

His choice...others choose to have roots and find employment where they can.

[dirtbanker]

And now, if need be, he wouldn't hesitate to pack up and go again if he had to.

Am I reading that correct, did he move back in with you and he has a job?

IF So, why doesn't your adult son have to pack up and move out?

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[Wiotte]

I think you hit the nail on the head with your last statement. Too many young people today are afraid to venture outside their comfort zone to seek opportunities. I did it, and thankfully my son did it when he lost his first job near home after a departmental lay-off. Ironically, he is back here due to a job transfer, but wouldn't hesitate to leave again if need be. In comparing him to many others around here his age, it is amazing how much more he has accumulated both in terms of wealth and experience because he wasn't afraid to take the necessary steps. And now, if need be, he wouldn't hesitate to pack up and go again if he had to.



You raised him well.


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[Allegiance]

You raised him well.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkLet's all brag.

Two with doctorates
One in Peace Corp

[Abby10]

His LIFE is his work...instead of the other way around...working to live.

His choice...others choose to have roots and find employment where they can.

You're right.....my husband and I probably taught him that by example and it has it's consequences. The only thing about staying around here is so few jobs and a lot of competition. As a result, many of his peers are having to do the part-time and/or $10/hour gig and you can't afford to live on your own around here on that amount.

[Allegiance]

Let's all brag.

Two with doctorates
One in Peace CorpO... and all three very independent.

I forgot Talt proves educmacation and independence are different animals

[Allegiance]

O... and all three very independent.

I forgot Talt proves educmacation and independence are different animals Talt failed the bar multiple times and never disclosed what he got on his SAT and LSAT. Most likely he never belonged in college and should have went straight to McDonald's.

Trouble with schools, they will take anyone's money, yours or the taxpayers.

Today idiots have too much self esteem

[Abby10]

Am I reading that correct, did he move back in with you and he has a job?

IF So, why doesn't your adult son have to pack up and move out?

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So that's where it gets complicated and there are various reasons. His move happened very recently. One is that as soon as he got the job transfer and relocated, he recognized that the position may not be long lasting and he might be moving again, sooner rather than later. We are waiting too, to see if he does end up staying as it could facilitate our being able to retire and move to our TV home a lot sooner. We have been unable to sell our house up here for the past 4 years - not that it's not salable from the standpoint of being desirable, but to make a long story short let's just say the EPA standards have gotten ridiculous over the last 5+ years and our township is being a PIA. So essentially, as my husband says, we are prisoners in our own house until something gives. NOW, if my son ends up staying here, the cost to carry this house and stay in it is about 30% less than what he would pay for a studio apartment near where he works. He is not looking to buy right now (and would not want this big house anyway) because he has his money tied up in the rental market elsewhere. When he left, he moved to a very up and coming area that has a very low cost of living. While there he bought multiple properties and now has them all on the rental market, so essentially he was working 2 full-time jobs out there building a financial future for himself. So now here we all are, biding time to see what the next best move is for all of us.

Sorry for the long story, but you asked.

[Abby10]

They are the typical "white debt slaves". They will have one child and work forever.

Negros and Hispanics go the other route...total dependence on government...making up to $60,000 a year in total government benefits. Popping out kids with reckless abandon.

They are the majority now...51%...and growing...minorities have most of the children now.

You SHOULD tell your kids to have LOTS of kids themselves...take back America...make it white again.

I agree with you, Don, about the points you make about our kids. It frightens me sometimes how driven my son is about work and financial independence. I wish that he had more balance in his life. I fear how not having that will affect his future happiness.

[Don Baldwin]

Let's all brag.

Two with doctorates
One in Peace Corp

I hope they bring LOTS of birth control. Helping minorities who have overpopulated their own lands...to have more kids and come here...isn't a smart thing in my book.

Talt failed the bar multiple times and never disclosed what he got on his SAT and LSAT. Most likely he never belonged in college and should have went straight to McDonald's.

Trouble with schools, they will take anyone's money, yours or the taxpayers.

Today idiots have too much self esteem

Yes they will...there are 100,000 graduates for 10,000 jobs...with 20% going to minority and women quotas...it's slim pickings for a white guy.

YOU taught them they were great! YOU did it with "everyone's a winner" bullsh!t. Everyone get's a trophy. WOMEN did this...because women NEVER get a trophy unless the deck is stacked...either with decreased standards, their own leagues...SOMETHING to give them an edge over men.

I agree with you, Don, about the points you make about our kids. It frightens me sometimes how driven my son is about work and financial independence. I wish that he had more balance in his life. I fear how not having that will affect his future happiness.

The thing is...the whole "financial system" is a corrupt ponzi. I think it WILL come crashing down. As America's demographics change...so will America.

America IS bankrupt...$30 trillion ($20,000,000,000,000) in debt and going deeper more than $1 trillion every year. Trump WILL add to it...a LOT. How high CAN it go? We already spend $500,000,000,000 a year in INTEREST and the rates are HISTORICALLY and artificially low.

I wish him luck...I truly do.

p.s. Tell him to NEVER marry without an ironclad prenup. Otherwise he WILL lose it all. MOST marriages end in divorce and women these days get windfall paydays.

[Abby10]

I hope they bring LOTS of birth control. Helping minorities who have overpopulated their own lands...to have more kids and come here...isn't a smart thing in my book.



Yes they will...there are 100,000 graduates for 10,000 jobs...with 20% going to minority and women quotas...it's slim pickings for a white guy.

YOU taught them they were great! YOU did it with "everyone's a winner" bullsh!t. Everyone get's a trophy. WOMEN did this...because women NEVER get a trophy unless the deck is stacked...either with decreased standards, their own leagues...SOMETHING to give them an edge over men.



The thing is...the whole "financial system" is a corrupt ponzi. I think it WILL come crashing down. As America's demographics change...so will America.

America IS bankrupt...$30 trillion ($20,000,000,000,000) in debt and going deeper more than $1 trillion every year. Trump WILL add to it...a LOT. How high CAN it go? We already spend $500,000,000,000 a year in INTEREST and the rates are HISTORICALLY and artificially low.

I wish him luck...I truly do.

p.s. Tell him to NEVER marry without an ironclad prenup. Otherwise he WILL lose it all. MOST marriages end in divorce and women these days get windfall paydays.

Thank you. Yes, he is well aware - in fact, I think that has been the reason for dragging his feet on that one. It's not like the opportunity has not been there. As much as I would love for him to have a mate, I know there is nothing worse than the wrong one.

[dirtbanker]

So that's where it gets complicated and there are various reasons. His move happened very recently. One is that as soon as he got the job transfer and relocated, he recognized that the position may not be long lasting and he might be moving again, sooner rather than later. We are waiting too, to see if he does end up staying as it could facilitate our being able to retire and move to our TV home a lot sooner. We have been unable to sell our house up here for the past 4 years - not that it's not salable from the standpoint of being desirable, but to make a long story short let's just say the EPA standards have gotten ridiculous over the last 5+ years and our township is being a PIA. So essentially, as my husband says, we are prisoners in our own house until something gives. NOW, if my son ends up staying here, the cost to carry this house and stay in it is about 30% less than what he would pay for a studio apartment near where he works. He is not looking to buy right now (and would not want this big house anyway) because he has his money tied up in the rental market elsewhere. When he left, he moved to a very up and coming area that has a very low cost of living. While there he bought multiple properties and now has them all on the rental market, so essentially he was working 2 full-time jobs out there building a financial future for himself. So now here we all are, biding time to see what the next best move is for all of us.

Sorry for the long story, but you asked.I understand how life can become difficult with our children. I also understand the rental market as well.

My son went out of state to college, earned an associates degree and decided college was not for him (we were not thrilled), and he returned back home.

That was supposed to be till he got a job and made enough money to get his own place, so we charged him $200 a month to live in our house. A few months later one of our tenants in an apartment moved out and our son expressed a desire to move to that $800 a month apartment, but said he did not think he could afford $800 a month with his other expenses (auto insurance, health insurance, fuel)

We told him that we were not going to take a cut in pay and he would pay us $500 a month and give us 16 hours labor a month (lawn care, snow removal, etc). He agreed and lived there for about 3 years and worked 4 hours a week on the maintenance of properties (most time Saturday mornings).

A few months into the arrangement my mother in law complains to me about charging my son for the rent. She states I don't need the money...I pointed out that it was $500 and 16 hours less a month that he could pi$$ away with his buddies that live with their parents and pay nothing. She asked would he do that? I said anyone, including me, would do that if they could.

I also pointed out that she of all people should not be giving parenting advise (she has a 60 year old son living with her that has not had a job in 30 some years - the original wackadoodle in my life- and he has never paid her a dime for anything...she even pays for his cigarettes!).

My actions might sound mean to some, but it did reinforce responsibility and commitment. Our son bought his first home last spring and he had no concerns with paying a mortgage, I believe he had enough experience with managing his money at that point (and making sure money for the roof over his head was set aside) that he was comfortable with monthly expenses that had to be paid.

I am not sure if any of that has anything to do with your circumstances, I just wanted to share something that worked well for us.



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[Don Baldwin]

Thank you. Yes, he is well aware - in fact, I think that has been the reason for dragging his feet on that one. It's not like the opportunity has not been there. As much as I would love for him to have a mate, I know there is nothing worse than the wrong one.

The thing is...it's happening now 30-40 years into a marriage...people in their 60s, 70s getting divorced. You just NEVER know. And what kind of a marriage IS IT...when it becomes a business transaction with lawyers.

It's sad what America has become Abby.

I know as a woman you won't agree...but white men create and run the best societies. We're NOT all the "same", there ARE square pegs and round holes. Round pegs belong in round holes. We should as a society encourage greatness...not treat mediocrity as greatness.

Abby...I know you think I'm a misogynist, you think I'm a racist.

I'm a realist. I've seen this all before. The history books are littered with failed civilizations...and we're making the SAME f@cking mistakes. We're PAYING them to breed us out. An 80% brown/black "America" will NOT be "America". And THAT IS what it WILL be in 30 years.

There is NOT ONE place that went from a white majority to a brown/black majority...and LIVED. When the blacks/browns move in...it ALWAYS turns to sh!t...the black/browns ARE "moving in" and taking over the country. MOST of the children born for the last 8 years are brown/black.

THIS is America's MOST pressing problem and THE most important.

Nothing else matters if America becomes 3rd world full of 3rd worlders.

Look at our cities...80% minority and they SUCK.,,away from the business/tourist centers. Look at the border states...they SUCK now that they're becoming 80% minorities.

You are losing your country...your culture...western civilization. Because the SAME thing is happening in Europe with the Muslim invasion. Paris streets homeless at DuckDuckGo (https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Paris+streets+homeless&t=lm&iax=images&ia=images) The mostly Muslim homeless in Paris.

[Abby10]

To Dirt and Don -

I have to run to work, but wanted to thank you both for your replies. I will respond to them when I return this evening.

[Abby10]

I understand how life can become difficult with our children. I also understand the rental market as well.

My son went out of state to college, earned an associates degree and decided college was not for him (we were not thrilled), and he returned back home.

That was supposed to be till he got a job and made enough money to get his own place, so we charged him $200 a month to live in our house. A few months later one of our tenants in an apartment moved out and our son expressed a desire to move to that $800 a month apartment, but said he did not think he could afford $800 a month with his other expenses (auto insurance, health insurance, fuel)

We told him that we were not going to take a cut in pay and he would pay us $500 a month and give us 16 hours labor a month (lawn care, snow removal, etc). He agreed and lived there for about 3 years and worked 4 hours a week on the maintenance of properties (most time Saturday mornings).

A few months into the arrangement my mother in law complains to me about charging my son for the rent. She states I don't need the money...I pointed out that it was $500 and 16 hours less a month that he could pi$$ away with his buddies that live with their parents and pay nothing. She asked would he do that? I said anyone, including me, would do that if they could.

I also pointed out that she of all people should not be giving parenting advise (she has a 60 year old son living with her that has not had a job in 30 some years - the original wackadoodle in my life- and he has never paid her a dime for anything...she even pays for his cigarettes!).

My actions might sound mean to some, but it did reinforce responsibility and commitment. Our son bought his first home last spring and he had no concerns with paying a mortgage, I believe he had enough experience with managing his money at that point (and making sure money for the roof over his head was set aside) that he was comfortable with monthly expenses that had to be paid.

I am not sure if any of that has anything to do with your circumstances, I just wanted to share something that worked well for us.



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Sorry for the delay in responding to this and thanks again for taking the time to share your story. It sounds like our methods of parenting were somewhat similar. When my son graduated college and was living with us, my husband took the rent idea a step further. Instead of charging him rent per se, he decided to have him pay for the utilities instead. That way my son had the ability, to some extent, to be in charge of the dollar amount that he had to pay each month by being more cognizant of how much he used. My husband and I were already pretty frugal that way ourselves. It worked out pretty well until one day when he was going out for the evening and my husband and I were watching TV. As he walked by, he turned the lights out on us saying he didn't know why we would need them on just to watch TV. That's when we learned the tables had turned in the house.....lol. Anyway, he has always been pretty careful with his money and was about to buy a place of his own and move out when he got laid off from that first post-grad job. Thankfully, he wasn't strapped to a mortgage because 6 months later he ended up packing his bags and moving 10 hours away.

Right now what we have is a pretty symbiotic relationship - one hand helping the other while we all transition. He certainly could well afford to pay the 30% more to rent locally, but with the possibility that he may be transferred again soon, and my husband and I trying to make an eventual move to TV, we just decided to hang tight for right now and see how everything plays out.

Thanks again for sharing your story. I think it is well worth it not to spoil our kids even if we are able. My son is not overly excited about being back in the same household as us, but understands the practicality of it for now. In the meantime, it makes me happy in a sense that he feels that way because I think it shows we have done our job in raising a kid that values independence.

[Abby10]

The thing is...it's happening now 30-40 years into a marriage...people in their 60s, 70s getting divorced. You just NEVER know. And what kind of a marriage IS IT...when it becomes a business transaction with lawyers.

It's sad what America has become Abby.

I know as a woman you won't agree...but white men create and run the best societies. We're NOT all the "same", there ARE square pegs and round holes. Round pegs belong in round holes. We should as a society encourage greatness...not treat mediocrity as greatness.

Abby...I know you think I'm a misogynist, you think I'm a racist.

I'm a realist. I've seen this all before. The history books are littered with failed civilizations...and we're making the SAME f@cking mistakes. We're PAYING them to breed us out. An 80% brown/black "America" will NOT be "America". And THAT IS what it WILL be in 30 years.

There is NOT ONE place that went from a white majority to a brown/black majority...and LIVED. When the blacks/browns move in...it ALWAYS turns to sh!t...the black/browns ARE "moving in" and taking over the country. MOST of the children born for the last 8 years are brown/black.

THIS is America's MOST pressing problem and THE most important.

Nothing else matters if America becomes 3rd world full of 3rd worlders.

Look at our cities...80% minority and they SUCK.,,away from the business/tourist centers. Look at the border states...they SUCK now that they're becoming 80% minorities.

You are losing your country...your culture...western civilization. Because the SAME thing is happening in Europe with the Muslim invasion. Paris streets homeless at DuckDuckGo (https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Paris+streets+homeless&t=lm&iax=images&ia=images) The mostly Muslim homeless in Paris.

Now on to you, Don....you have said a lot in your post and I have more to say about it than I can post on here. Probably a lot of it will surprise you because there are many points on which I agree.

Your first few sentences, I totally agree with. I think the thing that really threw my son for a loop was when one of the happiest, most successful, most committed couple we knew (or so we thought) ended up getting divorced right before their 25th wedding anniversary and she raked him over the coals. My son was just as close to this couple as my husband and I were, and my son was at a very impressionable age at the time in regards to marriage. I can see to this day how profoundly that affected him.

Regarding, men and women, I also agree with you. There is no doubt there are more differences between the 2 than meets the eye. From a biological/scientific perspective, take into consideration the hormone differences alone and how much a woman's fluctuates versus a man's in a lifetime. Then there's the biblical perspective which may not be relevant to you but it is to some, and that is that God made woman to be a companion to man not a competitor. I'm not saying women can not have successful careers, and may be even better than some men in their respective fields, but the idea of women taking over the world is as unsettling to me as I'm quite sure it is to you.

As far as your views on races, etc, all I can say is what others have said - I might not agree with some of your views in that regard, but I cannot argue your facts either. Having grown up in a very lily white small town and then moving on to 2 major cities from there, I have experienced quite a lot. Living where I do currently, in the suburbs of a large city, there are 2 smaller cities close by. One is 75% black and rated as one of the top 10 highest crime cities in the US. The other is also in the top 10 and is 56% black. I do not dislike blacks/African Americans. I have friends, co-workers, and even cousins who are black - you and I went around about that before. But there is a culture in some neighborhoods that seems to breed contempt. It is palpable in cities such as the first one I mentioned, so much so that I would not even go there in broad daylight. It is sad in a way because I think it stems from people not knowing any better and crowd mentality thinking. I know good people who live there as well, but they tend to live on the outskirts and keep their children close, sending them to private schools and keeping them busy in productive activities. I have seen some great kids come out of areas like that, but not without a lot of hard work from attentive parents.

I could go on and on with personal experiences, etc, but I don't want to belabor the point on here. I think the real issue is that many people have little to no experience in dealing with different races and cultures. Being in the medical profession and working near or in a city, you get a lot of exposure. I can only speak of what I know. If that makes me a racist to some, so be it. I know in my heart I am not, as do my friends, co-workers and family, and that's all that matters to me. I try to treat everyone with the same amount of respect, no matter their race, religion, socio-economic status, etc. To me everyone has value.

[ColdNoMore]

So Abby10 has now came completely out of the closet and proved my assertion earlier (the one she tried and failed to refute)...that most Trump Cultists are racists/bigots. :thumbup:


I really hate to say I told everyone so, but......I DID tell everyone so. :D



You're welcome. :ho:







Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave:

[Wiotte]

Now on to you, Don....you have said a lot in your post and I have more to say about it than I can post on here. Probably a lot of it will surprise you because there are many points on which I agree.



Your first few sentences, I totally agree with. I think the thing that really threw my son for a loop was when one of the happiest, most successful, most committed couple we knew (or so we thought) ended up getting divorced right before their 25th wedding anniversary and she raked him over the coals. My son was just as close to this couple as my husband and I were, and my son was at a very impressionable age at the time in regards to marriage. I can see to this day how profoundly that affected him.



Regarding, men and women, I also agree with you. There is no doubt there are more differences between the 2 than meets the eye. From a biological/scientific perspective, take into consideration the hormone differences alone and how much a woman's fluctuates versus a man's in a lifetime. Then there's the biblical perspective which may not be relevant to you but it is to some, and that is that God made woman to be a companion to man not a competitor. I'm not saying women can not have successful careers, and may be even better than some men in their respective fields, but the idea of women taking over the world is as unsettling to me as I'm quite sure it is to you.



As far as your views on races, etc, all I can say is what others have said - I might not agree with some of your views in that regard, but I cannot argue your facts either. Having grown up in a very lily white small town and then moving on to 2 major cities from there, I have experienced quite a lot. Living where I do currently, in the suburbs of a large city, there are 2 smaller cities close by. One is 75% black and rated as one of the top 10 highest crime cities in the US. The other is also in the top 10 and is 56% black. I do not dislike blacks/African Americans. I have friends, co-workers, and even cousins who are black - you and I went around about that before. But there is a culture in some neighborhoods that seems to breed contempt. It is palpable in cities such as the first one I mentioned, so much so that I would not even go there in the broad daylight. It is sad in a way because I think it stems from people not knowing any better and crowd mentality thinking. I know good people who live there as well, but they tend to live on the outskirts and keep their children close, sending them to private schools and keeping them busy in productive activities. I have seen some great kids come out of areas like that, but not without a lot of hard work from attentive parents.



I could go on and on with personal experiences, etc, but I don't want to belabor the point on here. I think the real issue is that many people have little to no experience in dealing with different races and cultures. Being in the medical profession and working near or in a city, you get a lot of exposure. I can only speak of what I know. If that makes me a racist to some, so be it. I know in my heart I am not, as do my friends, co-workers and family, and that's all that matters to me. I try to treat everyone with the same amount of respect, no matter their race, religion, socio-economic status, etc. To me everyone has value.



You are a very smart and articulate lady. I don’t know why you would want to hang with the NOTHINGS especially since it’s core is unredeemable.


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[Abby10]

So Abby10 has now came completely out of the closet and proved my assertion earlier (the one she tried and failed to refute)...that most Trump Cultists are racists/bigots. :thumbup:


I really hate to say I told everyone so, but......I DID tell everyone so. :D



You're welcome. :ho:







Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave:

Lying is so second nature for you.......very unbecoming.

[Abby10]

You are a very smart and articulate lady. I don’t know why you would want to hang with the NOTHINGS especially since it’s core is unredeemable.


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NOTHING is unredeemable. Wait a minute, is this a trick? No matter how I say it, it won't come out right......NOTHING is redeemable?

Anyway, is this your way of trying to get rid of me? I'm telling the Kommander........lol

[Abby10]

You are a very smart and articulate lady. I don’t know why you would want to hang with the NOTHINGS especially since it’s core is unredeemable.


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Btw, it's because you guys really crack me up sometimes and now I think you're stuck with me and I'm stuck with you. After all, we're all just a bunch of NOTHINGS.

Laughter is the best medicine, you know.

[Allegiance]

NOTHING is unredeemable. Wait a minute, is this a trick? No matter how I say it, it won't come out right......NOTHING is redeemable?

Anyway, is this your way of trying to get rid of me? I'm telling the Kommander........lolThe commander has been turned into an emotional pinko. I am trying to salvage what I can.

[ColdNoMore]

Lying is so second nature for you.......very unbecoming.

LOL :1rotfl:

YOU'RE the one that wrote it.

But no wonder you refuse to say what Trump would have to do to lose your support, because just like him...you deny you're OWN exact words. :oops:

You've definitely proving to be part of the..."1/2 basket of deplorable's." :thumbup:



Now on to you, Don....you have said a lot in your post and I have more to say about it than I can post on here. Probably a lot of it will surprise you because there are many points on which I agree.

Your first few sentences, I totally agree with. I think the thing that really threw my son for a loop was when one of the happiest, most successful, most committed couple we knew (or so we thought) ended up getting divorced right before their 25th wedding anniversary and she raked him over the coals. My son was just as close to this couple as my husband and I were, and my son was at a very impressionable age at the time in regards to marriage. I can see to this day how profoundly that affected him.

Regarding, men and women, I also agree with you. There is no doubt there are more differences between the 2 than meets the eye. From a biological/scientific perspective, take into consideration the hormone differences alone and how much a woman's fluctuates versus a man's in a lifetime. Then there's the biblical perspective which may not be relevant to you but it is to some, and that is that God made woman to be a companion to man not a competitor. I'm not saying women can not have successful careers, and may be even better than some men in their respective fields, but the idea of women taking over the world is as unsettling to me as I'm quite sure it is to you.

As far as your views on races, etc, all I can say is what others have said - I might not agree with some of your views in that regard, but I cannot argue your facts either. Having grown up in a very lily white small town and then moving on to 2 major cities from there, I have experienced quite a lot. Living where I do currently, in the suburbs of a large city, there are 2 smaller cities close by. One is 75% black and rated as one of the top 10 highest crime cities in the US. The other is also in the top 10 and is 56% black. I do not dislike blacks/African Americans. I have friends, co-workers, and even cousins who are black - you and I went around about that before. But there is a culture in some neighborhoods that seems to breed contempt. It is palpable in cities such as the first one I mentioned, so much so that I would not even go there in broad daylight. It is sad in a way because I think it stems from people not knowing any better and crowd mentality thinking. I know good people who live there as well, but they tend to live on the outskirts and keep their children close, sending them to private schools and keeping them busy in productive activities. I have seen some great kids come out of areas like that, but not without a lot of hard work from attentive parents.

I could go on and on with personal experiences, etc, but I don't want to belabor the point on here. I think the real issue is that many people have little to no experience in dealing with different races and cultures. Being in the medical profession and working near or in a city, you get a lot of exposure. I can only speak of what I know. If that makes me a racist to some, so be it. I know in my heart I am not, as do my friends, co-workers and family, and that's all that matters to me. I try to treat everyone with the same amount of respect, no matter their race, religion, socio-economic status, etc. To me everyone has value.

[Rockyrd]

You are a very smart and articulate lady. I don’t know why you would want to hang with the NOTHINGS especially since it’s core is unredeemable.


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So right on.

These endorsers of white supremacy and followers of Baldwin....perhaps they can tell us from what country he is posting, who he represents, etc.

[Abby10]

The commander has been turned into an emotional pinko. I am trying to salvage what I can.

We all definitely have our roles in NOTHINGVILLE. Somehow I think you would be the last one to fall apart, for sure.

Btw, I will need your help with NOTHING VIOLATIONS tomorrow and Saturday. Work calls for me on those 2 days. I don't want to lose my job doing NOTHING by keeping my eye on NOTHING while I'm there. ;)

[Allegiance]

We all definitely have our roles in NOTHINGVILLE. Somehow I think you would be the last one to fall apart, for sure.

Btw, I will need your help with NOTHING VIOLATIONS tomorrow and Saturday. Work calls for me on those 2 days. I don't want to lose my job doing NOTHING by keeping my eye on NOTHING while I'm there. ;)I am on that NOTHING project Friday from 00:00 hours till Saturday 23:59 ma'am.

No violation will go unpunished.

[Abby10]

LOL :1rotfl:

YOU'RE the one that wrote it.

But no wonder you refuse to say what Trump would have to do to lose your support, because just like him...you deny you're OWN exact words. :oops:

You've definitely proving to be part of the..."1/2 basket of deplorable's." :thumbup:

And yet more of your redeeming qualities come out. You fool no one but yourself, but keep trying if you must.

[Rockyrd]

"The child gets a lifelong right to live and work and collect benefits in the U.S. And when they turn 21 they can sponsor their parents' application for an American green card."

This refers to the flock of people coming to Miami to have their babies in this country.....

FROM RUSSIA AND CHINA

Birth tourism brings Russian baby boom to Miami - NBC News (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/birth-tourism-brings-russian-baby-boom-miami-n836121)

Not a problem, right

[Rockyrd]

And yet more of your redeeming qualities come out. You fool no one but yourself, but keep trying if you must.

Yours are also showing.

Hanging with the anti American crowd will change you, along with avoiding topics.

[Abby10]

So right on.

These endorsers of white supremacy and followers of Baldwin....perhaps they can tell us from what country he is posting, who he represents, etc.

I don't think what you say is true. You continue to float the narrative that all Trump supporters are white supremacists and your friend calls us all deplorables. All from the group who insists that people should not be spoken of as groups and that name-calling is inappropriate.

I will agree on one point which is that Don stands out for sure as the one person who appears to be an outward supporter of white supremacy. However, dumb he is not. He does bring facts to his arguments, no matter what the topic. I do not like what he stands for, but I know I can't debate him. Can you? I have seen and experienced that of which he speaks. I call it crowd mentality because I notice that the blacks that do not go along with the crowd think, so to speak, are not like that at all. I love my African American (they don't mind me calling them black either, btw) friends, co-workers, and cousins. We have openly talked about racial issues (which go both ways, by the way) and what it's like to be black vs white, etc. So in one respect, I can agree with some of what Don says about the violence in many majority black neighborhoods (I presented stats too), but I do not judge individuals by the color of their skin, nor by their religion, or anything of the sort. My preference is to seek out what is in their heart and to look at each person as a unique individual. If you knew me, you would see that in the way I live my life and by the diversity of friends that I have.

The shallow-minded on here (hopefully not you) will continue to pick and choose from my narrative and make it their own basket of lies. So be it. I guess we all see what we want to see. Personally, I would rather just get along with everyone because no one is free of faults in their character. To me, life is best when I can bring out the best in another. We all have our redeeming qualities which, when found, can outshine our faults.

[Abby10]

Yours are also showing.

Hanging with the anti American crowd will change you, along with avoiding topics.

Again, more name calling. I will consider what you say and be wary of your precautions. My question to you is, have you considered the same for yourself? You seem like a generally nice man, but you don't hesitate to fall into the traps that you so despise. Could it be the company you keep and defend? Heck, he rarely has to come on here anymore because you fight all his battles for him.

I've said it before - I cannot change the behaviors of others, but I can continue to seek the good in all. I have even caught some glimpses of that in your friend. The thing is though, if you're going to be selective in who you try to find good in, isn't that just being judgmental? I'm far from perfect, but I do try to avoid selectivity as best I can. I know I need to try harder though......

[Abby10]

"The child gets a lifelong right to live and work and collect benefits in the U.S. And when they turn 21 they can sponsor their parents' application for an American green card."

This refers to the flock of people coming to Miami to have their babies in this country.....

FROM RUSSIA AND CHINA

Birth tourism brings Russian baby boom to Miami - NBC News (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/birth-tourism-brings-russian-baby-boom-miami-n836121)

Not a problem, right

Why do you say that - not a problem? I suspect you say it facetiously, but could you be more specific as to what your motive is for asking in that manner? Are you saying because of where they are from? What difference does that make would be my question. Although it is legal, it is definitely something to look into and possibly change - not for just one group of people but for all. I think the whole idea of immigration to America has been distorted. In talking to friends and former co-workers about this who have emigrated (I call it the hard way), they couldn't agree more.

[Allegiance]

Again, more name calling. I will consider what you say and be wary of your precautions. My question to you is, have you considered the same for yourself? You seem like a generally nice man, but you don't hesitate to fall into the traps that you so despise. Could it be the company you keep and defend? Heck, he rarely has to come on here anymore because you fight all his battles for him.

I've said it before - I cannot change the behaviors of others, but I can continue to seek the good in all. I have even caught some glimpses of that in your friend. The thing is though, if you're going to be selective in who you try to find good in, isn't that just being judgmental? I'm far from perfect, but I do try to avoid selectivity as best I can. I know I need to try harder though......I give you credit for attempting logic with hateful illogical people.


It is hopeless. I really think their stupidity has evolved into pure evil.

[Taltarzac725]

Now on to you, Don....you have said a lot in your post and I have more to say about it than I can post on here. Probably a lot of it will surprise you because there are many points on which I agree.

Your first few sentences, I totally agree with. I think the thing that really threw my son for a loop was when one of the happiest, most successful, most committed couple we knew (or so we thought) ended up getting divorced right before their 25th wedding anniversary and she raked him over the coals. My son was just as close to this couple as my husband and I were, and my son was at a very impressionable age at the time in regards to marriage. I can see to this day how profoundly that affected him.

Regarding, men and women, I also agree with you. There is no doubt there are more differences between the 2 than meets the eye. From a biological/scientific perspective, take into consideration the hormone differences alone and how much a woman's fluctuates versus a man's in a lifetime. Then there's the biblical perspective which may not be relevant to you but it is to some, and that is that God made woman to be a companion to man not a competitor. I'm not saying women can not have successful careers, and may be even better than some men in their respective fields, but the idea of women taking over the world is as unsettling to me as I'm quite sure it is to you.

As far as your views on races, etc, all I can say is what others have said - I might not agree with some of your views in that regard, but I cannot argue your facts either. Having grown up in a very lily white small town and then moving on to 2 major cities from there, I have experienced quite a lot. Living where I do currently, in the suburbs of a large city, there are 2 smaller cities close by. One is 75% black and rated as one of the top 10 highest crime cities in the US. The other is also in the top 10 and is 56% black. I do not dislike blacks/African Americans. I have friends, co-workers, and even cousins who are black - you and I went around about that before. But there is a culture in some neighborhoods that seems to breed contempt. It is palpable in cities such as the first one I mentioned, so much so that I would not even go there in broad daylight. It is sad in a way because I think it stems from people not knowing any better and crowd mentality thinking. I know good people who live there as well, but they tend to live on the outskirts and keep their children close, sending them to private schools and keeping them busy in productive activities. I have seen some great kids come out of areas like that, but not without a lot of hard work from attentive parents.

I could go on and on with personal experiences, etc, but I don't want to belabor the point on here. I think the real issue is that many people have little to no experience in dealing with different races and cultures. Being in the medical profession and working near or in a city, you get a lot of exposure. I can only speak of what I know. If that makes me a racist to some, so be it. I know in my heart I am not, as do my friends, co-workers and family, and that's all that matters to me. I try to treat everyone with the same amount of respect, no matter their race, religion, socio-economic status, etc. To me everyone has value.

That is actually a good post with heart. My sister-in-law is Jamaican and was married to my late brother from around 2006 onward. So I am rather familiar with people who are seen as African-American especially by nephew the Jamaican sister-in-law's son.

[Don Baldwin]

So Abby10 has now came completely out of the closet and proved my assertion earlier (the one she tried and failed to refute)...that most Trump Cultists are racists/bigots. :thumbup:


I really hate to say I told everyone so, but......I DID tell everyone so. :D



You're welcome. :ho:


Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave:

What YOU call racist/bigot...is telling the truth.

WHERE IS the black villages? Black Oxford? A MLK Blvd that ISN'T dangerous? A black school WITHOUT metal detectors and armed security? YOU CLAIM they are equal...put up. SHOW me their greatness.

So right on.

These endorsers of white supremacy and followers of Baldwin....perhaps they can tell us from what country he is posting, who he represents, etc.

Negros ARE a different species. Would you trade your Fifi for a wolf? Blacks are MORE different from EVERY race than dogs to wolves.

I represent f@cking AMERICA...that WHITE SUCCESSFUL place that I call home. WHY do YOU want to destroy "America" and replace it with Mexico II?

"The child gets a lifelong right to live and work and collect benefits in the U.S. And when they turn 21 they can sponsor their parents' application for an American green card."

This refers to the flock of people coming to Miami to have their babies in this country.....

FROM RUSSIA AND CHINA

Birth tourism brings Russian baby boom to Miami - NBC News (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/birth-tourism-brings-russian-baby-boom-miami-n836121)

Not a problem, right

EXACTLY...the propaganda "news" will NEVER tell you that. Just like ALL women living in America...drop a kid or two and you're pretty much set for life.

I don't think what you say is true. You continue to float the narrative that all Trump supporters are white supremacists and your friend calls us all deplorables. All from the group who insists that people should not be spoken of as groups and that name-calling is inappropriate.

I will agree on one point which is that Don stands out for sure as the one person who appears to be an outward supporter of white supremacy. However, dumb he is not. He does bring facts to his arguments, no matter what the topic. I do not like what he stands for, but I know I can't debate him. Can you? I have seen and experienced that of which he speaks. I call it crowd mentality because I notice that the blacks that do not go along with the crowd think, so to speak, are not like that at all. I love my African American (they don't mind me calling them black either, btw) friends, co-workers, and cousins. We have openly talked about racial issues (which go both ways, by the way) and what it's like to be black vs white, etc. So in one respect, I can agree with some of what Don says about the violence in many majority black neighborhoods (I presented stats too), but I do not judge individuals by the color of their skin, nor by their religion, or anything of the sort. My preference is to seek out what is in their heart and to look at each person as a unique individual. If you knew me, you would see that in the way I live my life and by the diversity of friends that I have.

The shallow-minded on here (hopefully not you) will continue to pick and choose from my narrative and make it their own basket of lies. So be it. I guess we all see what we want to see. Personally, I would rather just get along with everyone because no one is free of faults in their character. To me, life is best when I can bring out the best in another. We all have our redeeming qualities which, when found, can outshine our faults.

Save your breath...you're dealing with retards who are SO stupid...they don't realize just HOW stupid they are.

You skimmed the surface...you've never hung out in the inner city ghettos. You didn't grow up in a black school. You have NO idea how bad it really is.

You "love" the 1%...and face it...they're NOT your "equal" are they? They don't kick your ass in chess or their expansive all encompassing knowledge and wisdom.

You SHOULD judge them...you're a FOOL not to.

But blacks are a different species...look it up! You DON'T treat a wolf like a dog. They're different. Blacks are different too...a different species.

Again, more name calling. I will consider what you say and be wary of your precautions. My question to you is, have you considered the same for yourself? You seem like a generally nice man, but you don't hesitate to fall into the traps that you so despise. Could it be the company you keep and defend? Heck, he rarely has to come on here anymore because you fight all his battles for him.

I've said it before - I cannot change the behaviors of others, but I can continue to seek the good in all. I have even caught some glimpses of that in your friend. The thing is though, if you're going to be selective in who you try to find good in, isn't that just being judgmental? I'm far from perfect, but I do try to avoid selectivity as best I can. I know I need to try harder though......

Are you going to find a "good" wolf to be your pet? Probably not...maybe 1% would be docile enough to be a pet? Same with negros...they are a violent SPECIES and only 1% are capable of living in a modern society. SAME as wolves and dogs.

I'll leave you with a story...

The scorpion told the frog...please give me a ride across the river...I promise I won't sting you...frog agrees...as they reach shore...the scorpion stings the frog...as he lay dying...he says...you PROMISED you wouldn't sting me...why did you? The scorpion says...I'm a scorpion, I can't help it.

Blacks ARE black...they CAN'T change WHAT they are. A DIFFERENT species. INCAPABLE of living in ANY modern society. They are ALWAYS the lowest of the low in EVERY country. There is not one successful black place. WHY do you keep thinking they're "equal"? LOOK at them...WHY do you insist they are "us"? They are not and pretending they are is destroying this country.

[Rockyrd]

What YOU call racist/bigot...is telling the truth.

WHERE IS the black villages? Black Oxford? A MLK Blvd that ISN'T dangerous? A black school WITHOUT metal detectors and armed security? YOU CLAIM they are equal...put up. SHOW me their greatness.



Negros ARE a different species. Would you trade your Fifi for a wolf? Blacks are MORE different from EVERY race than dogs to wolves.

I represent f@cking AMERICA...that WHITE SUCCESSFUL place that I call home. WHY do YOU want to destroy "America" and replace it with Mexico II?



EXACTLY...the propaganda "news" will NEVER tell you that. Just like ALL women living in America...drop a kid or two and you're pretty much set for life.



Save your breath...you're dealing with retards who are SO stupid...they don't realize just HOW stupid they are.

You skimmed the surface...you've never hung out in the inner city ghettos. You didn't grow up in a black school. You have NO idea how bad it really is.

You "love" the 1%...and face it...they're NOT your "equal" are they? They don't kick your ass in chess or their expansive all encompassing knowledge and wisdom.

You SHOULD judge them...you're a FOOL not to.

But blacks are a different species...look it up! You DON'T treat a wolf like a dog. They're different. Blacks are different too...a different species.



Are you going to find a "good" wolf to be your pet? Probably not...maybe 1% would be docile enough to be a pet? Same with negros...they are a violent SPECIES and only 1% are capable of living in a modern society. SAME as wolves and dogs.

I'll leave you with a story...

The scorpion told the frog...please give me a ride across the river...I promise I won't sting you...frog agrees...as they reach shore...the scorpion stings the frog...as he lay dying...he says...you PROMISED you wouldn't sting me...why did you? The scorpion says...I'm a scorpion, I can't help it.

Blacks ARE black...they CAN'T change WHAT they are. A DIFFERENT species. INCAPABLE of living in ANY modern society. They are ALWAYS the lowest of the low in EVERY country. There is not one successful black place. WHY do you keep thinking they're "equal"? LOOK at them...WHY do you insist they are "us"? They are not and pretending they are is destroying this country.

From what country are you posting ?

[Taltarzac725]

I see Don Baldwin is still posting his racist filth.

[Abby10]

That is actually a good post with heart. My sister-in-law is Jamaican and was married to my late brother from around 2006 onward. So I am rather familiar with people who are seen as African-American especially by nephew the Jamaican sister-in-law's son.

Thank you, Tal, for seeing it as I meant it to be. You are right about family - you become much more aware of the real life struggles of being different when it's in your own family.

Btw, I worked with a Jamaican man some years back. He became very friendly with my husband and I. What a great guy he was. Wonderful employee, husband, and father. Haven't talked to him in some time. Your mention makes me want to check in and see how he's doing.

[Allegiance]

Thank you, Tal, for seeing it as I meant it to be. You are right about family - you become much more aware of the real life struggles of being different when it's in your own family.

Btw, I worked with a Jamaican man some years back. He became very friendly with my husband and I. What a great guy he was. Wonderful employee, husband, and father. Haven't talked to him in some time. Your mention makes me want to check in and see how he's doing.I know the guy, he is in federal prison.


Jk

[Allegiance]

I see Don Baldwin is still posting his racist filth.Buddy, you know this thread is also directed at you, right?

[Don Baldwin]

Why do you say that - not a problem? I suspect you say it facetiously, but could you be more specific as to what your motive is for asking in that manner? Are you saying because of where they are from? What difference does that make would be my question. Although it is legal, it is definitely something to look into and possibly change - not for just one group of people but for all. I think the whole idea of immigration to America has been distorted. In talking to friends and former co-workers about this who have emigrated (I call it the hard way), they couldn't agree more.

It WAS in the 1960s by LBJ...he CHANGED immigration from 90% white people from Europe...to 90% minorities from 3rd world countries.

[Abby10]

Buddy, you know this thread is also directed at you, right?

I'm sure glad I gave you a job to do the next couple of days or poor W will be up to his ears trying to keep a lasso on you. :ohdear:

[Don Baldwin]

Thank you, Tal, for seeing it as I meant it to be. You are right about family - you become much more aware of the real life struggles of being different when it's in your own family.

Btw, I worked with a Jamaican man some years back. He became very friendly with my husband and I. What a great guy he was. Wonderful employee, husband, and father. Haven't talked to him in some time. Your mention makes me want to check in and see how he's doing.

He's the 1%...you "know" the 1%.

The 99% live in the inner cities...they are NOT like the man you know.

[Rockyrd]

He's the 1%...you "know" the 1%.

The 99% live in the inner cities...they are NOT like the man you know.

PLEASE share from what country you are posting from ?

[Taltarzac725]

I'm sure glad I gave you a job to do the next couple of days or poor W will be up to his ears trying to keep a lasso on you. :ohdear:

He may be booted off Talk of the Villages before then if there is any justice. Have no idea why the MODERATOR is not acting. It makes no sense why Allegiance is still even allowed to post.

[Wiotte]

Thank you, Tal, for seeing it as I meant it to be. You are right about family - you become much more aware of the real life struggles of being different when it's in your own family.



Btw, I worked with a Jamaican man some years back. He became very friendly with my husband and I. What a great guy he was. Wonderful employee, husband, and father. Haven't talked to him in some time. Your mention makes me want to check in and see how he's doing.



Jamaican blacks have different attitudes compared to American born blacks. Number one difference is the lack of a chip on their shoulders. They also consider themselves “superior” to American blacks. Just like white people, blacks have established a pecking order specific to their race and heritage.


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[Allegiance]

He may be booted off Talk of the Villages before then if there is any justice. Have no idea why the MODERATOR is not acting. It makes no sense why Allegiance is still even allowed to post.Your membership is being evaluated as we speak.

Remember no 224 613 in general forum. Etc etc

[Taltarzac725]

Jamaican blacks have different attitudes compared to American born blacks. Number one difference is the lack of a chip on their shoulders. They also consider themselves “superior” to American blacks. Just like white people, blacks have established a pecking order specific to their race and heritage.


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My nephew was born here, but my sister-in-law was not. Her other son is the guy that yells "Pizza" in the movie August Rush. He gave up acting though. That was the one with the late great Robin Williams. August Rush (2007) - Rotten Tomatoes (https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/august_rush/) Keri Russell - Rotten Tomatoes (https://www.rottentomatoes.com/celebrity/keri_russell) He, the former actor, I believe was also born in the US.

My sister-in-law used to be one of the straps on the US SEAL teams.

[ColdNoMore]

And yet more of your redeeming qualities come out. You fool no one but yourself, but keep trying if you must.

Like so many other Trump Cultists, I bet you felt a great sense of relief when he was elected...now that you don't have to hide your heretofore suppressed and pent-up racism and bigotry.


By the way, I meant to compliment you on an earlier post...where you proved me correct again. :thumbup:


The vast majority of racists & bigots try to deny their true nature with the typical... "I can't be racist because I have black friends/coworkers/relatives."



You were dead true to form...so thanks for that. :ho:

[Abby10]

Like so many other Trump Cultists, I bet you felt a great sense of relief when he was elected...now that you don't have to hide your heretofore suppressed and pent-up racism and bigotry.


By the way, I meant to compliment you on an earlier post...where you proved me correct again. :thumbup:


The vast majority of racists & bigots try to deny their true nature with the typical... "I can't be racist because I have black friends/coworkers/relatives."



You were dead true to form...so thanks for that. :ho:


I have explained my Trump vote more than once on this forum. He was not my first choice by far, but he did win the Repub nomination, so that is who I voted for. As far as supporting him, I will do so as long as he is President just as I did any other President in office, hoping for the best for the Presidency and our country. If extenuating circumstances dictate, in fact, that he is unfit for office than so be it. I will support that decision as well, for the sake of the country. You see, my allegiance to this county is not beholden to any one person or party. I have voted for Dems in the past as well. Hopefully we all vote for who we think is the best at the time - it is a very subjective thing - that's why I try not to judge anyone for who or how they vote.

I don't believe I said "I can't be a racist....", the fact is I'm NOT a racist. I truly wonder if you have any experience at all with race relations. You seem to be very ignorant of the whole subject.

Now, if you would quit following me around the forum, both here and the regular one, like a stalker I would greatly appreciate it.

[Don Baldwin]

Jamaican blacks have different attitudes compared to American born blacks. Number one difference is the lack of a chip on their shoulders. They also consider themselves “superior” to American blacks. Just like white people, blacks have established a pecking order specific to their race and heritage.


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None of them...generally..can compare/compete with whites...THAT is WHY we HAVE to have quotas.

What f@cking business ISN'T going to hire the BEST they can get?

The NBA and NFL is FULL of blacks...but nowhere else is...why?...because blacks are GOOD at basketball and football...but NOT much else.

Like so many other Trump Cultists, I bet you felt a great sense of relief when he was elected...now that you don't have to hide your heretofore suppressed and pent-up racism and bigotry.


By the way, I meant to compliment you on an earlier post...where you proved me correct again. :thumbup:


The vast majority of racists & bigots try to deny their true nature with the typical... "I can't be racist because I have black friends/coworkers/relatives."



You were dead true to form...so thanks for that. :ho:

SHOW me equality...show me. WHERE is it? WHAT statistic puts blacks at the top? Where ARE their successful places? WHERE? Where is their Einstein? Newton? Ford? Gates? Musk? Rockefeller? Edison? Westinghouse? Tesla? HOW many do I have to list? a few million?

Where is YOUR list of GREAT blacks? NOT MLK, he talked and did little else. Not Mandela, he talked and did little else. I didn't list "talkers", I listed doers...people who MADE a LOT of things. People who changed the world...are white...how many blacks can you name?

You KEEP telling me I'm contemptible, I'm wrong...well...put up.

PROVE equality...right now. Give me the PROOF that negros are human. Show me the EVIDENCE of equality.

I keep offering you MY proof but you refuse it. MLK Blvd...ANY city. A 90% blacks school...ANY city. ANY 90% black ghetto. THERE is the 99%...there are the REAL blacks. NOT the 1%. You are seeing/meeting the "black geniuses"...not the 99%. The 1% are OK...the 99% they bring with them isn't worth it.

The planet would be a better place if they were all back in Africa.

Disagree? Why? What is BETTER between Wildwood/Leesburg and the villages because the former have black people living there? Name me a reason those two are better than the villages. IS there ANYTHING better in those two compared to the villages. If you HAD to...where would you send your daughter to live ALONE? There or here?

There's ONE thing in common between those two places and here...they have a good number of black people...we don't.

[ColdNoMore]

I have explained my Trump vote more than once on this forum. He was not my first choice by far, but he did win the Repub nomination, so that is who I voted for. As far as supporting him, I will do so as long as he is President just as I did any other President in office, hoping for the best for the Presidency and our country. If extenuating circumstances dictate, in fact, that he is unfit for office than so be it. I will support that decision as well, for the sake of the country. You see, my allegiance to this county is not beholden to any one person or party. I have voted for Dems in the past as well. Hopefully we all vote for who we think is the best at the time - it is a very subjective thing - that's why I try not to judge anyone for who or how they vote.

I don't believe I said "I can't be a racist....", the fact is I'm NOT a racist. I truly wonder if you have any experience at all with race relations. You seem to be very ignorant of the whole subject.
You can try and minimize your alliance and shared beliefs with Racist Boy Baldwin and that you're not a racist all you want...but your own words say differently. :ho:


As for me, I have worked/lived with blacks and other minorities all of my life.


My formative years (those that predominately establish prejudices/racism/bigotry), unlike your own admission...weren't spent in a "lily-white community."


Regardless of your attempt to present a 'civil facade' and your pathetic protestations to the contrary...you've shown the board your true racist/bigoted nature.


So why are you so afraid of...accepting the obvious? :shrug:




Now, if you would quit following me around the forum, both here and the regular one, like a stalker I would greatly appreciate it.
Now you're just flat out lying. :oops:


Show where I have been "following you around" on the regular forum. And as far as here, I've only quoted/posted behind you...after you've shown your true nature. :popcorn:


Are you really so ignorant to believe that others can't see what you've written...or what I've written?


Now that you've been outed...your desperation is palpable. :ho:



Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave:

[Don Baldwin]

You can try and minimize your alliance and shared beliefs with Racist Boy Baldwin and that you're not a racist all you want...but your own words say differently. :ho:


As for me, I have worked/lived with blacks and other minorities all of my life.


My formative years (those that predominately establish prejudices/racism/bigotry), unlike your own admission...weren't spent in a "lily-white community."


Regardless of your attempt to present a 'civil facade' and your pathetic protestations to the contrary...you've shown the board your true racist/bigoted nature.


So why are you so afraid of...accepting the obvious? :shrug:





Now you're just flat out lying. :oops:


Show where I have been "following you around" on the regular forum. And as far as here, I've only quoted/posted behind you...after you've shown your true nature. :popcorn:


Are you really so ignorant to believe that others can't see what you've written...or what I've written?


Now that you've been outed...your desperation is palpable. :ho:



Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave:

Hey Coldsore...where's MY reply? Where's the answer to MY questions?

Well then Coldsore...WHAT the f@ck are you doing living here in "whiteville"? If black people are so great...WHY don't you live among them? Not THAT great. Not THAT good of friends.

Did you "go native" Coldsore?

I'll ask YOU that Coldsore...WHY are you so afraid of the obvious? Negros are NOT "us"...they're NOTHING like us. They're a different species. Why are you so afraid of the obvious?

Why are you so afraid to go to MLK Blvd to SEE the 99%? Why are you so afraid to go to a black school and SEE the obvious?

You are wrong Coldsore.

Shut me up...show me the black villages. The black TOP anything.

[Rockyrd]

You can try and minimize your alliance and shared beliefs with Racist Boy Baldwin and that you're not a racist all you want...but your own words say differently. :ho:


As for me, I have worked/lived with blacks and other minorities all of my life.


My formative years (those that predominately establish prejudices/racism/bigotry), unlike your own admission...weren't spent in a "lily-white community."


Regardless of your attempt to present a 'civil facade' and your pathetic protestations to the contrary...you've shown the board your true racist/bigoted nature.


So why are you so afraid of...accepting the obvious? :shrug:





Now you're just flat out lying. :oops:


Show where I have been "following you around" on the regular forum. And as far as here, I've only quoted/posted behind you...after you've shown your true nature. :popcorn:


Are you really so ignorant to believe that others can't see what you've written...or what I've written?


Now that you've been outed...your desperation is palpable. :ho:



Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave:

I have checked out some things on Abby's friend Don Baldwin.

If you go to Stormfront which is a White Nationalist web site, you will be amazed at the information on there, most of which will remind you of Baldwin's posts.

They actually have a permanent thread entitled "Strategy and Tactics" and there you will for sure find familiar graphs and charts he has used on here. They have a thread specifically to demean Martin Luther King, and interesting one that supplies "pictures" as in many we have seen on this forum.

It is international and I keep asking from what country he is posting from, with no response.

But those who way they cannot argue with him....well, first he has a built in advantage as he has access to lots of stuff to bewilder you. Secondly, when you say you cannot argue with him, to me, that means you have already built in that it is just fine to judge another human being by the color of their skin. From there, it is a short walk to use any statistic to make your point. FIRST you gotta be open to the idea that skin color makes you different.

[Abby10]

You can try and minimize your alliance and shared beliefs with Racist Boy Baldwin and that you're not a racist all you want...but your own words say differently. :ho:


As for me, I have worked/lived with blacks and other minorities all of my life.


My formative years (those that predominately establish prejudices/racism/bigotry), unlike your own admission...weren't spent in a "lily-white community."


Regardless of your attempt to present a 'civil facade' and your pathetic protestations to the contrary...you've shown the board your true racist/bigoted nature.


So why are you so afraid of...accepting the obvious? :shrug:





Now you're just flat out lying. :oops:


Show where I have been "following you around" on the regular forum. And as far as here, I've only quoted/posted behind you...after you've shown your true nature. :popcorn:


Are you really so ignorant to believe that others can't see what you've written...or what I've written?


Now that you've been outed...your desperation is palpable. :ho:



Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave:

You are truly hopeless and I see that as sad. Anyone who would defend you and your vile and nasty ways, well, I don't even know what to think about them. I don't think there are many.

You exemplify everything that is wrong with this great country of ours and is exactly the reason I have refused to engage with you up to this point. I had already figured you were too deep-seated in your hatred for others to have any kind of back and forth exchange without spewing your vitriol.

You "talk" as if you know so much, even about others. Your inability to engage as a normal human being "speaks" otherwise. You have given a great example of this by just your comments above, although I don't think most people on here needed any more evidence of that, as you have already given so much prior to this.

Just within recent days it seemed as if every thread I engaged in you popped up, usually to say something unkind. Many of the posts have since been deleted. I will give you the benefit of the doubt that it was just coincidence, but will certainly be on guard because I don't think you are a person to be trusted with the truth.

[Abby10]

I have checked out some things on Abby's friend Don Baldwin.

If you go to Stormfront which is a White Nationalist web site, you will be amazed at the information on there, most of which will remind you of Baldwin's posts.

They actually have a permanent thread entitled "Strategy and Tactics" and there you will for sure find familiar graphs and charts he has used on here. They have a thread specifically to demean Martin Luther King, and interesting one that supplies "pictures" as in many we have seen on this forum.

It is international and I keep asking from what country he is posting from, with no response.

But those who way they cannot argue with him....well, first he has a built in advantage as he has access to lots of stuff to bewilder you. Secondly, when you say you cannot argue with him, to me, that means you have already built in that it is just fine to judge another human being by the color of their skin. From there, it is a short walk to use any statistic to make your point. FIRST you gotta be open to the idea that skin color makes you different.

Rocky, you really disappoint me. CNM means NOTHING to me with a capital N, but I did not think you were known to be so cruel as well. You know darn well that Don B is not someone I know, so therefore how could he be my friend? Are you trying to tell me that you and CNM are 2 peas in a pod? Trying to post innuendos as an attempt to fit your own narrative? How in the world do you ever expect to have any kind of political discussion with that kind of attitude? You know darn well that I had a much higher regard for you. I am not only disappointed, but hurt, as you have made many attempts to be friendly with me on this forum and I took that to mean something. If this is how you treat people you like, well you can be sure I want NOTHING to do with you or CNM. I will just classify both of you in the same category and be done with it.

You could have merely presented your information without interjecting my name - a tactic CNM would use to insinuate that these are my beliefs too. Again, shaking my head that you too could be so nasty.

[ColdNoMore]

You are truly hopeless and I see that as sad. Anyone who would defend you and your vile and nasty ways, well, I don't even know what to think about them. I don't think there are many.

You exemplify everything that is wrong with this great country of ours and is exactly the reason I have refused to engage with you up to this point. I had already figured you were too deep-seated in your hatred for others to have any kind of back and forth exchange without spewing your vitriol.

You "talk" as if you know so much, even about others. Your inability to engage as a normal human being "speaks" otherwise. You have given a great example of this by just your comments above, although I don't think most people on here needed any more evidence of that, as you have already given so much prior to this.

Just within recent days it seemed as if every thread I engaged in you popped up, usually to say something unkind. Many of the posts have since been deleted. I will give you the benefit of the doubt that it was just coincidence, but will certainly be on guard because I don't think you are a person to be trusted with the truth.

I'm simply an excellent observer and you're certainly not the first...to take great umbrage with me having that skill. :D

I'm not the one that forced you to show everyone your true, despicable and loathsome nature and alliance with Baldwin...you did that all on your own.

And doubling down on your lying about posts proving that I was following you, have now been somehow magically deleted...tells me even a bit more about you.

You are not only a racist/bigot and a hypocritical fake...you also have no compunction with lying. :ohdear:

Once again, I thank you for the insights. :ho:



Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave:

[Rockyrd]

You are truly hopeless and I see that as sad. Anyone who would defend you and your vile and nasty ways, well, I don't even know what to think about them. I don't think there are many.

You exemplify everything that is wrong with this great country of ours and is exactly the reason I have refused to engage with you up to this point. I had already figured you were too deep-seated in your hatred for others to have any kind of back and forth exchange without spewing your vitriol.

You "talk" as if you know so much, even about others. Your inability to engage as a normal human being "speaks" otherwise. You have given a great example of this by just your comments above, although I don't think most people on here needed any more evidence of that, as you have already given so much prior to this.

Just within recent days it seemed as if every thread I engaged in you popped up, usually to say something unkind. Many of the posts have since been deleted. I will give you the benefit of the doubt that it was just coincidence, but will certainly be on guard because I don't think you are a person to be trusted with the truth.

Abby, I have a question for you.

Have you ever taken a stand like this on the foul mouthed posters who denegrate our country daily and our free press ?

Have you ever taken offense to posters ignoring topic in order to attack Hillary Clinton and or Obama, not in any kind of defense of Trump, but just to attack them out of the blue ?

Have you ever taken offense at a poster, who I think is not even in this country doing what the Russian bots did in dividing people along racial lines or spreading anti government sentiments ?

I am seeing your wrath and stellar character is reserved and very narrowly doled out, or at least it seems that way.

The posters you embrace with LOL, etc are those with the dirty mouths, the complete and total racist posts, the little cartoons (many flat out obscene).....you "seem" to like that kind of thing but anything other is blamed on the media, and which I still wait for an example of them lying in delivering the news.

Your reason for voting for Trump is that he was nominated is what you said. I voted with a write in, because I have a conscience and in any kind of good conscience neither candidate had the morals to deserve to be in the oval office. It had nothing to do with policies, and frankly you are so close minded as to how you are being conned as was pointed out yesterday in speaking of the wall. You did not even approach the subject of him lying to you...you just went after a statement on who voted for him as a moral stand. You are not, however, upset at all the our country may dish out millions to honor Trump ?

During the campaign, Trump maligned personally and in every way possible the talked about and much worked on comprehensive immigration reform...it did it in almost every rally....he made fools of Rubio and Jeb Bush and yesterday as he said he would support maybe 5 different things, one was the one....comprehensive immigration reform that he told you followers would never happen.

Well, lots of words..sorry.....but CFNM at least is talking facts and not anything else. It IS upsetting to be lectured to by someone who seems to avoid all issues EXCEPT race...I realize I am generalizing you have made yourself "read" by lecturing.

And I fully expect an all out attack by your buddies

[Abby10]

You are a very smart and articulate lady. I don’t know why you would want to hang with the NOTHINGS especially since it’s core is unredeemable.


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Sometimes it takes me awhile - finally understanding your post. Maybe it's because I always hope to make a difference, bring people together in some way but still hold onto individuality. This is all reminding me why I stuck to the NOTHING thread in polltical - it was the only thread where one had to be nice.

Evil pervades this forum in many ways.

[Rockyrd]

Rocky, you really disappoint me. CNM means NOTHING to me with a capital N, but I did not think you were known to be so cruel as well. You know darn well that Don B is not someone I know, so therefore how could he be my friend? Are you trying to tell me that you and CNM are 2 peas in a pod? Trying to post innuendos as an attempt to fit your own narrative? How in the world do you ever expect to have any kind of political discussion with that kind of attitude? You know darn well that I had a much higher regard for you. I am not only disappointed, but hurt, as you have made many attempts to be friendly with me on this forum and I took that to mean something. If this is how you treat people you like, well you can be sure I want NOTHING to do with you or CNM. I will just classify both of you in the same category and be done with it.

You could have merely presented your information without interjecting my name - a tactic CNM would use to insinuate that these are my beliefs too. Again, shaking my head that you too could be so nasty.

Well, if you are correct, your discussions I have read "with" or on his posts, I read incorrectly but you seemed to warm to his position on black people.

I abhor racism of any kind....it is illogical no matter how much you say you cannot disagree with him. You CAN if you dismiss the fact the the color of your skin does not define you. That takes care of whatever he has to say...period.

[Abby10]

I'm simply an excellent observer and you're certainly not the first...to take great umbrage with me having that skill. :D

I'm not the one that forced you to show everyone your true, despicable and loathsome nature and alliance with Baldwin...you did that all on your own.

And doubling down on your lying about posts proving that I was following you, have now been somehow magically deleted...tells me even a bit more about you.

You are not only a racist/bigot and a hypocritical fake...you also have no compunction with lying. :ohdear:

Once again, I thank you for the insights. :ho:



Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave:

You had quite a few posts deleted and you know it. Anyone who was on those threads knows it too, but you go ahead and continue YOUR LIES.

Well, if you are correct, your discussions I have read "with" or on his posts, I read incorrectly but you seemed to warm to his position on black people.

I abhor racism of any kind....it is illogical no matter how much you say you cannot disagree with him. You CAN if you dismiss the fact the the color of your skin does not define you. That takes care of whatever he has to say...period.

I think you should know me better than that by now. But since you don't care to and would rather continue down the path of your buddy, CNM, by maligning others on this forum in vile ways, then have at it. It appears that I was the last one here to recognize the likeness.

Despite it all, I wish you well, but just do not care to engage again.

[Don Baldwin]

I have checked out some things on Abby's friend Don Baldwin.

If you go to Stormfront which is a White Nationalist web site, you will be amazed at the information on there, most of which will remind you of Baldwin's posts.

They actually have a permanent thread entitled "Strategy and Tactics" and there you will for sure find familiar graphs and charts he has used on here. They have a thread specifically to demean Martin Luther King, and interesting one that supplies "pictures" as in many we have seen on this forum.

It is international and I keep asking from what country he is posting from, with no response.

But those who way they cannot argue with him....well, first he has a built in advantage as he has access to lots of stuff to bewilder you. Secondly, when you say you cannot argue with him, to me, that means you have already built in that it is just fine to judge another human being by the color of their skin. From there, it is a short walk to use any statistic to make your point. FIRST you gotta be open to the idea that skin color makes you different.

And WHAT is that information? True or not true? It's TRUE.

I should have gone there...it would have saved me the trouble of finding it all myself...BTW...what have YOU found to counter me? Nothing? Where is the "Blacks are equals" web site where YOU can find graphs and charts to support YOUR side? There are none? Because there AREN'T any that would support your position.

MLK...like Mandela...DID nothing and afterwards...things are worse than before. BOTH were just agitators with nothing to back it up. AGAIN,,,there's NO shortage of blacks in occupations they're actually GOOD at...the NFL and NBA PROVES it. There are NO blacks...except by quota...in pretty much everything else.

Facts bewilder you? Driving down to MLK Blvd some Saturday night bewilders you? Visiting a black school along MLK Blvd bewilders you? The black crime rate numbers bewilder you? What bewilders me is that you still believe the equality bullsh!t.

There you go AGAIN...genetic DNA mapping has PROVEN that negros are NOT directly related to modern humans. They are a different genetic line...close...but NOT close enough.

Please...use ANY statistic to make YOUR point. You;ve gotta be able to find ONE statistic that favors blacks.

NO...it's GENES...it's you ancestors...THAT is what is different. They are literally NOT in our genetic line...WAY back...millions of years ago...yes...but NOT recently. "Humans" developed OUTSIDE Africa.

Well, if you are correct, your discussions I have read "with" or on his posts, I read incorrectly but you seemed to warm to his position on black people.

I abhor racism of any kind....it is illogical no matter how much you say you cannot disagree with him. You CAN if you dismiss the fact the the color of your skin does not define you. That takes care of whatever he has to say...period.

No...YOU are illogical...acting like an emotional woman...IGNORING the evidence...ignoring the proof.

The COLOR of your skin does NOT define you...but your species...your genes...they DO. You just DON'T get it...Negros...blacks are NOT related to us directly...they are a DIFFERENT SPECIES. Black LACK up to 1/20th of the DNA that EVERY "race" shares. Blacks aren't a "race"...they're a species. EVERYTHING about them is different...EVERYTHING.

YOU are ignorant rocky...you LACK the truth. You are calling a wolf a dog. They too are NOT the same species.

[Rockyrd]

You had quite a few posts deleted and you know it. Anyone who was on those threads knows it too, but you go ahead and continue YOUR LIES.



I think you should know me better than that by now. But since you don't care to and would rather continue down the path of your buddy, CNM, by maligning others on this forum in vile ways, then have at it. It appears that I was the last one here to recognize the likeness.

Despite it all, I wish you well, but just do not care to engage again.

You have got to be joshing.

AT least tell me about your silence with me on the foul mouth maligning folks (you have said I malign...hmmm). Tell me why you lecture me and engage with the punks who are simply trolls.

You can attack me from any way you want, but do not even try to call me what you did. I simply respond in kind, and YOUR SILENCE does say a lot.

You reserve the holier than thou for others while those who actually plague this forum are ok by you.

Sorry.......it just does not wash.

I am here and always have been to discuss ISSUES, not posters and here we go again.

Enjoy your NOTHINGS and your discussions or the "good black" you have met.

[Wiotte]

You have got to be joshing.



AT least tell me about your silence with me on the foul mouth maligning folks (you have said I malign...hmmm). Tell me why you lecture me and engage with the punks who are simply trolls.



You can attack me from any way you want, but do not even try to call me what you did. I simply respond in kind, and YOUR SILENCE does say a lot.



You reserve the holier than thou for others while those who actually plague this forum are ok by you.



Sorry.......it just does not wash.



I am here and always have been to discuss ISSUES, not posters and here we go again.



Enjoy your NOTHINGS and your discussions or the "good black" you have met.



This is NOTHING more than a microcosm of the tribal infighting which is dividing our country. If I had to choose between understanding the differences between the races and allowing our race to disappear by assimilation or standing with our own, I will stand with our own. If that is racism then I’m a racist. Even the most simple minded can see that the written history of western civilization is far superior to any other. If such history was accomplished as a result of environment or luck so be it, but I doubt it. Our aggressiveness as a race has propelled us out from our caves to explore, conquer and advance more than any other civilization on record. That is a fact. How that translates into today’s society is open to interpretation but NOTHING will compare to what Europeans have accomplished over the past 2,500 years.


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[Rockyrd]

This is NOTHING more than a microcosm of the tribal infighting which is dividing our country. If I had to choose between understanding the differences between the races and allowing our race to disappear by assimilation or standing with our own, I will stand with our own. If that is racism then I’m a racist. Even the most simple minded can see that the written history of western civilization is far superior to any other. If such history was accomplished as a result of environment or luck so be it, but I doubt it. Our aggressiveness as a race has propelled us out from our caves to explore, conquer and advance more than any other civilization on record. That is a fact. How that translates into today’s society is open to interpretation but NOTHING will compare to what Europeans have accomplished over the past 2,500 years.


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To each his own.

What you profess is exactly what the bots that have been infiltrating our country, which it appears is of no concern to anyone, are attempting to do.

The idea is to push this divide, exactly as Don Baldwin does in hear daily.

They appear to have been successful in your case.

[Wiotte]

To each his own.



What you profess is exactly what the bots that have been infiltrating our country, which it appears is of no concern to anyone, are attempting to do.



The idea is to push this divide, exactly as Don Baldwin does in hear daily.



They appear to have been successful in your case.



I’ve thought this way for 45 years. Please don’t insult me that way.


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[Rockyrd]

I’ve thought this way for 45 years. Please don’t insult me that way.


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certainly not trying to insult you.....it IS A HUGE PROBLEM IN THIS COUNTRY NOW...

The Fake Americans Russia Created to Influence the Election - The New York Times (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/07/us/politics/russia-facebook-twitter-election.html)

How Russia used social media to divide Americans | US news | The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/oct/14/russia-us-politics-social-media-facebook)

How Russia-linked social media stoked U.S. culture wars. (http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2017/09/27/how_russia_linked_social_media_stoked_u_s_culture_ wars.html)

[Rockyrd]

Then of course,.....these babies will be white thus no problem I suppose..

"The child gets a lifelong right to live and work and collect benefits in the U.S. And when they turn 21 they can sponsor their parents' application for an American green card."

Birth tourism brings Russian baby boom to Miami - NBC News (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/birth-tourism-brings-russian-baby-boom-miami-n836121)

This is exclusively speaking of RUSSIAN and/or CHINESE

This below link goes back to 2015....

"BEIJING — Business is booming here for companies that coach pregnant women on how to deceive U.S. immigration authorities so they can enter the United States for the sole purpose of giving birth to American citizens.

At least 500 companies offered "birth tourism" services in China last year, the Shanghai newspaper National Business Daily reported. While there are no official statistics, the number of Chinese citizens heading to the USA to give birth likely is in the tens of thousands each year. The cost of a trip, including medical expenses, runs from $20,000 to $80,000."


Chinese flock to USA to give birth to U.S. citizens (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2015/04/01/china-usa-birth-tourists-business-strong/24887837/)

[Rockyrd]

For clarification, I have always been for immigration reform, and felt Bush/Rubio were on the right track....comprehensive reform with strength in of the borders.

It appears after mocking these men and getting everyone in a panic mode, the President appears to maybe now agree.

Comprehensive...NOT EMOTIONAL, simply applying common sense after a thorough review of immigration laws.

That is exactly where we were prior to the election.

[Wiotte]

certainly not trying to insult you.....it IS A HUGE PROBLEM IN THIS COUNTRY NOW...



The Fake Americans Russia Created to Influence the Election - The New York Times (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/07/us/politics/russia-facebook-twitter-election.html)



How Russia used social media to divide Americans | US news | The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/oct/14/russia-us-politics-social-media-facebook)



How Russia-linked social media stoked U.S. culture wars. (http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2017/09/27/how_russia_linked_social_media_stoked_u_s_culture_ wars.html)



I agree with you. I am not a Trump disciple nor am I a Republican. I know he as a businessman is dirty, I don’t know if the Russians have anything on him, but based upon his actions they just might. It wouldn’t be against his character to treason against our country.


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[Don Baldwin]

Then of course,.....these babies will be white thus no problem I suppose..

"The child gets a lifelong right to live and work and collect benefits in the U.S. And when they turn 21 they can sponsor their parents' application for an American green card."

Birth tourism brings Russian baby boom to Miami - NBC News (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/birth-tourism-brings-russian-baby-boom-miami-n836121)

This is exclusively speaking of RUSSIAN and/or CHINESE

This below link goes back to 2015....

"BEIJING — Business is booming here for companies that coach pregnant women on how to deceive U.S. immigration authorities so they can enter the United States for the sole purpose of giving birth to American citizens.

At least 500 companies offered "birth tourism" services in China last year, the Shanghai newspaper National Business Daily reported. While there are no official statistics, the number of Chinese citizens heading to the USA to give birth likely is in the tens of thousands each year. The cost of a trip, including medical expenses, runs from $20,000 to $80,000."


Chinese flock to USA to give birth to U.S. citizens (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2015/04/01/china-usa-birth-tourists-business-strong/24887837/)

This is NOTHING compared to the 11 million Mexicans who come here each year and drop an anchor baby.

The Chinese and others do it for the citizenship...as an option...they don't stay and collect welfare...it's a "get out of China if they have to" card.

For clarification, I have always been for immigration reform, and felt Bush/Rubio were on the right track....comprehensive reform with strength in of the borders.

It appears after mocking these men and getting everyone in a panic mode, the President appears to maybe now agree.

Comprehensive...NOT EMOTIONAL, simply applying common sense after a thorough review of immigration laws.

That is exactly where we were prior to the election.

The reform we NEED is NO MORE 3rd worlders...we NEED to go back to ONLY white Europeans.

They ARE breeding us out!

[Rockyrd]

I agree with you. I am not a Trump disciple nor am I a Republican. I know he as a businessman is dirty, I don’t know if the Russians have anything on him, but based upon his actions they just might. It wouldn’t be against his character to treason against our country.


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I have never accused Trump of anything, and will wait for the result of the investigation.

I do, however fault him in a big way for not acting in a responsible manner as President. To call this entire thing a hoax and to do nothing at all to insure it does not happen again is totally irresponsible.

Problem is that he has convinced his followers that this is a hoax and they treat it as a game. It is not a reality show....it is real life

[Wiotte]

I have never accused Trump of anything, and will wait for the result of the investigation.



I do, however fault him in a big way for not acting in a responsible manner as President. To call this entire thing a hoax and to do nothing at all to insure it does not happen again is totally irresponsible.



Problem is that he has convinced his followers that this is a hoax and they treat it as a game. It is not a reality show....it is real life



Goebbels called it the “big lie” theory. Wouldn’t be the first or last time we’ve used Nazi tactics or the information they learned to use on our own people. There but for the grace of God would our country have gone as far. The only things that differentiated us from the German people in the 1920’s is our constitution and the Atlantic Ocean. It’s no secret that our journey to the moon was also a victory for the German people.



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[Don Baldwin]

Goebbels called it the “big lie” theory. Wouldn’t be the first or last time we’ve used Nazi tactics or the information they learned to use on our own people. There but for the grace of God would our country have gone as far. The only things that differentiated us from the German people in the 1920’s is our constitution and the Atlantic Ocean. It’s no secret that our journey to the moon was also a victory for the German people.



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We got a LOT from "the German people". MANY of our top scientists. Theoreticians...engineers...

[Wiotte]

We got a LOT from "the German people". MANY of our top scientists. Theoreticians...engineers...



Including Einstein, a German Jew. If he had not sent a letter to FDR, the Germans may have had the bomb before us.


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[Don Baldwin]

Including Einstein, a German Jew. If he had not sent a letter to FDR, the Germans may have had the bomb before us.


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There are/were a LOT of smart successful Jews...especially in Germany. Then as now...they were the top in many fields. Ran the banking, finance, manufacturing, media, movies...etc.

It's not the poor Jew living in the ghetto that Hitler was after...it was the Jews at the top...running everything...that he blamed.

[Wiotte]

There are/were a LOT of smart successful Jews...especially in Germany. Then as now...they were the top in many fields. Ran the banking, finance, manufacturing, media, movies...etc.



It's not the poor Jew living in the ghetto that Hitler was after...it was the Jews at the top...running everything...that he blamed.



Yep, they were a threat to his autocracy.
The German Jews were at the top of the heap compared to the rest of the Jews in Europe.


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[Allegiance]

Something has to be done.