My gas cart wants ethanol free gas

[zummy]

Just got my 08 yamaha back from a carb rebuild allegedly due to ethanol plugging up my carb when it sat over the summer. It was covered under warranty , one time deal, but will not be next year.

I put stabile in the tank last May to no avail. I bought gas instead of electric to avoid storage issues. Will draining the carb solve my problem and running it until it stops before storage. Is there any "recreational gas" available the has no ethanol? Help!

Thanks folks

PS Is there any product to add to the gas that safely cleans the carb?

[ricthemic]

Bought a new 09 yamaha gas cart in Sept. from TV. They told me to add Sta-Bil treatment with ethynol protection (not to be confused with regular Sta Bil treatment) especially during months when not in use. Problem is I have not been able to find the Sta-Bil with ethynol protection. ACE hardware is checking it out. TV Salesman told me the cart must be driven atleast once a month during down time to protect the engine/carb. Appreciate any additional advice. Thanks

[k2at]

Just bought a 2010 Yamaha gas cart today and asked about the procedure for storing the cart for the 4 summer months we will be spending in New Jersey. The owner specifically said not to add stabile and to shut the valve above the gas tank and then let the cart run until it stops. As a side note he also said using octane above 87 is totally unnecessary. If there is a gas smell in the cart it is because there is most likely no muffler extender installed.

Don't burn me in effigy as I am only repeating what the salesperson, owner, told me.

[ricthemic]

Thanks, was your salesman from the villages cart store or another yamaha dealer? I only ask to see if different dealers are suggesting different solutions to ethynol and storage issues.

[anyexit]

Thanks, was your salesman from the villages cart store or another yamaha dealer? I only ask to see if different dealers are suggesting different solutions to ethynol and storage issues.

We bought ours at Carts and Clubs in Ocala and were told to run the gas out if we were going to be gone for an extended time. We did just that and were gone 4 1/2 months. Turned the gas back on and started right off. We've put about 400 miles on it since we've been back and have had no problem at all. We buy our gas at the station by Mulberry Grove (Rt 42) and haven't got a clue what it's got in it!

[k2at]

My cart was purchased at Parts and Clubs on highway 301 today, just out of the villages. He , the owner, was adament; no stable and burn off the fuel by shutting the flow to the engine. He also stated one does not have to disconnect the battery leads either. Lastly use regular gas.

[zummy]

Very interesting stuff. Thanks to all who left this valuable information. How long should I have to run the cart to run it out of gas? The mechanic at the villages shop showed me how to loosen the screw on the side of the carb to drain. Should this be done also? Should you drain the gas tank of ethanol gas if no sta-bile is used? Can you get gas w/o ethanol in Fl anywhere close to the villages?

[ricthemic]

To answer your question about how long to run the gas out?

This is a generic answer that is easy to do but don't sue me if you go astray. Must carts do not have a fuel petcock ( that is an automotive term for shut off valve).

Remove the fuel line from the tank to the fuel pump, at the pump end of the hose. Then insert a golf tee into the hose to prevent any fuel from leaking.

Then run your engine with your cart in neutral until it stalls, this will take approximately 2 minuets. Then reinstall the hose to the fuel pump. Your cart is now ready for storage. This will also charge the battery for storage.

DO NOT STORE THE CART WITH THE FUEL LINE DISCONNECTED, EVER.
If you are not a mechanical type of cart owner ask for help from a pro or a mechanical neighbor. There is one in every neighborhood.

To answer the second part of your question, where can you find gas without ethanol?, it can be done but it is not easy. Ethanol, also called corn gas is not the only issue with modern fuels. Today's fuel is a world apart from the fuel we used 30 years ago.

If you let a can of fuel that is made today evaporate it leaves a substance behind that is similar to molasses. There is no need to add Sta-Bil to the fuel stored in your gas tank. In the 4-6 months that you may be gone there will be enough volume of fuel to prevent any problem.

Also remember to run the fuel out of any gas powered equipment you own. On smaller gas powered equipment that you are not going to use for a while pour the fuel back into a can then run the engine out of gas until it stalls.

If you are not comfortable doing any of this stuff than disregard it entirely and hire a good home watch person. Have them operate your equipment in your absence. I do know a good home watch person but that is for another thread.

Great advice, thank you, one question please. I have a yamaha gas cart.
I don't think I have a neutral gear just forward and reverse. If this is the case do I jack it up or drive it back and forth until it stops and then push it into the garage?

[renos]

You have neutral it is in between forward and reverse

[golfnut]

Disconnect gas, drive cart until it stops, call village kart aide to come get you and take you home....GN

[Prof]

Try STA-BIL ethanol treatment. Available at home depot. 1/2 oz. per tank. Costs much more at golf cart dealerships.

[BobandMarilyn]

Walmart carries the Sta-Bil Ethanol Treatment (blue bottle) in the auto section. I use it in the cart, lawn mower, stick edger, etc. Lawn equipment repair shops indicate that a significant portion of their small engine problems are ethanol related and recommend ethanol treatments. I also add it to the van gas tank about once a month.

[red tail]

Just got my 08 yamaha back from a carb rebuild allegedly due to ethanol plugging up my carb when it sat over the summer. It was covered under warranty , one time deal, but will not be next year.

I put stabile in the tank last May to no avail. I bought gas instead of electric to avoid storage issues. Will draining the carb solve my problem and running it until it stops before storage. Is there any "recreational gas" available the has no ethanol? Help!

Thanks folks

PS Is there any product to add to the gas that safely cleans the carb?

Amazon.com: sta bil ethanol treatment

[red tail]

Bought a new 09 yamaha gas cart in Sept. from TV. They told me to add Sta-Bil treatment with ethynol protection (not to be confused with regular Sta Bil treatment) especially during months when not in use. Problem is I have not been able to find the Sta-Bil with ethynol protection. ACE hardware is checking it out. TV Salesman told me the cart must be driven atleast once a month during down time to protect the engine/carb. Appreciate any additional advice. Thanks

they sell it at amazon

[Bill-n-Brillo]

red tail, your Amazon link doesn't work.

Bill :)

[Shimpy]

You have neutral it is in between forward and reverse

It can be found by putting cart in reverse, then slowly move the lever to forward until the reverse buzzer stops.

[Shimpy]

[QUOTE=zummy;232289] Is there any "recreational gas" available the has no ethanol? Help!

QUOTE]

Try this site: Ethanol-free gas stations in FL (http://pure-gas.org/index.jsp?stateprov=FL)

You'll notice most stations are boating Marina's and most gas without ethanol is high octane. Most people assume "high octane" or "high test" gas gives more power when in fact it doesn't and the higher the octane the slower buring it is for high compression engines. Your engine designed for reg. gas will run better on regular gas.
I'd get the StaBil for ethanol, use the max amount (you can't use too much)and shut off the gas from the tank and let it run out of gas. Other than having someone starting and running it for you once a month, that's the best you can do.

[Pianoman]

Effective July 1, 2013, ethanol is no-longer required by Florida law to be added to automobile fuel. (H.B. 4001, signed into law 5/31/13) There are a few gas stations in the area that have E-0 fuel (with octane ratings from 87 to 93) for use in lawn mowers, rec vehicles, etc. but none in The Villages. We need to convince the golf-cart accessible gas stations in The Villages to carry E-0 fuel. You can be sure that the first station to do so will be overwhelmed by golf cart owners who are savvy about the adverse effects of ethanol in their fuel and will demand E-0 fuel. I need a new gas cart, but will not buy one until E-0 fuel is available in The Villages. Talk to the owners of all of the gas stations in The Villages.

[wendyquat]

Bought a new 09 yamaha gas cart in Sept. from TV. They told me to add Sta-Bil treatment with ethynol protection (not to be confused with regular Sta Bil treatment) especially during months when not in use. Problem is I have not been able to find the Sta-Bil with ethynol protection. ACE hardware is checking it out. TV Salesman told me the cart must be driven atleast once a month during down time to protect the engine/carb. Appreciate any additional advice. Thanks

You can buy the Sta Bil Ethanol Protection from Amazon.com

[mulligan]

Ace hardware has marine grade Stabil.

[Shimpy]

Effective July 1, 2013, ethanol is no-longer required by Florida law to be added to automobile fuel. (H.B. 4001, signed into law 6/31/13) .

This is the best news I've heard in a long time. When ethanol was first used I noticed an immediate 10% reduction in gas mileage due to ethanol having less energy than gas. If a station anywhere near TV carries low octane gas without ethanol I'll use it in my car, motorcycle and golfcart.

[Pianoman]

This is the best news I've heard in a long time. When ethanol was first used I noticed an immediate 10% reduction in gas mileage due to ethanol having less energy than gas. If a station anywhere near TV carries low octane gas without ethanol I'll use it in my car, motorcycle and golfcart.

Right now, all of the stations near TV carry 90 octane, only. I use it in both of my cars - a 2001 Miata that LOVES it (10-1 compression ratio) and a 2012 Nissan (10.3-1 compression ratio) The Nissan service manager says the Nissan is better off with E-0 although the car will get used to the 90 octane and won't like 87 E-10 octane, temporarily, if I switch back. ( a computer thingy). Anyway, there are enough E-0 gas stations along any route I plan to travel in the near future until TV gets with the program and sells E-0.

[NoMoSno]

If a station anywhere near TV carries low octane gas without ethanol I'll use it in my car, motorcycle and golfcart.

closest station is in Ocala:
Ethanol-free gas stations in the U.S. and Canada (http://pure-gas.org/?stateprov=FL)

[eremite06]

It's not listed, but the Sunoco in Panasoffkee has 90 octane ethanol-free.

[will1546]

Try using a product named K100. You can see it on youtube.com. It is available from the motorcycle shop on rte 25 out by Gator Joes.

[Donvito]

Use marine gas stabilizer sold in Walmart. I've been using it for years and it works.

[Vinne]

You can buy Ethanol free gas
Lake-Sumter Fuel Oil
1428 Center Street
Leesburg, FL 32748
Tel: 352-787-4454

[Pianoman]

You can buy Ethanol free gas
Lake-Sumter Fuel Oil
1428 Center Street
Leesburg, FL 32748
Tel: 352-787-4454

Thanks, I posted it on the pure-gas.org site. Station owners I have talked to say there is not much demand for E-0 right now except for lawn mowers, tractors and people with classic/sports cars. I believe that is because very few people are aware that the law in Florida has changed and they are under the impression that they have no choice but to knuckle under and continue to destroy their vehicles with ethanol. Gear heads know about the damage that ethanol causes.

Folks, if you want to increase the availability of E-0 fuel, you need to start making that known to stations in TV. Like I said before, I will not buy a gas golf cart until E-0 is available at stations in TV.