Speed of Development

[geofitz13]

We first visited TV the second week of January, 2016. I believe it was a few weeks later when the plans for Fenney were announced. Now, a year later, it is unbelievable! Golf courses, rec center, hundreds of homes... all in under a year!
Is it just me, or is anyone else impressed with the speed of the development down there? And they are already starting homes in De Soto!

[Bogie Shooter]

Been impressed since 2000.

[Chi-Town]

It's amazing.

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[villagetinker]

The secret is they have seeds for the houses, just plant and water, and stand back.....We are watching a new house on Del mar, amazing how fast they can put up a house. Ours was done in around 80 days from empty lot to move in ready.

[billethkid]

We have watched the developer do that since 2003 when 466 was a two lane road and there was nothing south of 466 (not 466A.....466).

It is what and how they do it....very consistent method/procedure from planning to completed homes, then completed villages.

[twoplanekid]

It was interesting to me to learn about the mix of homes in CDD 12 that includes Fenney. A total of 3,637 homes will be built in CDD 12, including 1,700 villas, 1,928 standard homes and nine premier homes. Premier homes decline while villas are on the rise.

[graciegirl]

It was interesting to me to learn about the mix of homes in CDD 12 that includes Fenney. A total of 3,637 homes will be built in CDD 12, including 1,700 villas, 1,928 standard homes and nine premier homes. Premier homes decline while villas are on the rise.

I think that it has remained fairly constant, that mix. There are many, many more designers and cottages, and ranches and villas than premiers. Just what people want to buy.

[Wiotte]

It was interesting to me to learn about the mix of homes in CDD 12 that includes Fenney. A total of 3,637 homes will be built in CDD 12, including 1,700 villas, 1,928 standard homes and nine premier homes. Premier homes decline while villas are on the rise.



Not good when a developer starts to go after the cheap money when more can be had with upscale on the same acreage. It’s a microcosm of the steady decline of the stronger middle class who once held defined benefit plans and lifetime medical.


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[vintageogauge]

Not good when a developer starts to go after the cheap money when more can be had with upscale on the same acreage. It’s a microcosm of the steady decline of the stronger middle class who once held defined benefit plans and lifetime medical.


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That's not true. There are/were very few middle class defined pensions that would support the purchase of a premier home down here unless they are coming from an area such as New York City, LA, etc. 10,000 boomers retire a day and only 6 of them choose to come here. Quite a few of the villas are purchased as rental properties, quite a few more are purchased by buyers who choose to keep their homes up north and they are therefore a great choice for a second home, and quite a few more are purchased by owners of designer homes that want to down size. Don't forget, there are villas selling well into the $300,000 plus range in Fenne and they are selling quickly, higher than many of the designer homes that are available. A month or so ago they released 35 lots in Fenney ranging in price from $99,000 to $139,000 and all of the more expense ones were sold in a matter of days, a few weeks later most all were sold. There is still a large demand for higher priced designer homes. There are only a handful of people that can afford a million dollar plus premier home on a view lot that would even consider spending that kind of money in TV. and there are still premiers sitting in Oceola as well as the Pines that can be purchased when those buyers eventually show up.

[Wiotte]

That's not true. There are/were very few middle class defined pensions that would support the purchase of a premier home down here unless they are coming from an area such as New York City, LA, etc. 10,000 boomers retire a day and only 6 of them choose to come here. Quite a few of the villas are purchased as rental properties, quite a few more are purchased by buyers who choose to keep their homes up north and they are therefore a great choice for a second home, and quite a few more are purchased by owners of designer homes that want to down size. Don't forget, there are villas selling well into the $300,000 plus range in Fenne and they are selling quickly, higher than many of the designer homes that are available. A month or so ago they released 35 lots in Fenney ranging in price from $99,000 to $139,000 and all of the more expense ones were sold in a matter of days, a few weeks later most all were sold. There is still a large demand for higher priced designer homes. There are only a handful of people that can afford a million dollar plus premier home on a view lot that would even consider spending that kind of money in TV. and there are still premiers sitting in Oceola as well as the Pines that can be purchased when those buyers eventually show up.



I was referring to all but the designers.
A financially healthy retirement
is a three legged stool consisting of a pension, personal savings and social security. Unless you have the financial discipline to save over and above to make up for the lack of a pension, your retirement will not be as comfortable as your working
life lifestyle. That’s a fact.

[kstew43]

when looking at the map for Fenny, it does appear that the patio and courtyards are indeed selling, although I think slowly, but the designer and cottage, not so much

There seems to be lots of blue dots...spec homes available for sale.

[Wiotte]

when looking at the map for Fenny, it does appear that the patio and courtyards are indeed selling, although I think slowly, but the designer and cottage, not so much



There seems to be lots of blue dots...spec homes available for sale.



Without restrictions on rentals this is a recipe for a decline of the quality of life for full timers.


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[Lottoguy]

Makes you wonder how well they are constructed? Something to think about....

[Kat-Florida]

That is my question too. Are the new homes the same quality?

[Chi-Town]

It was interesting to me to learn about the mix of homes in CDD 12 that includes Fenney. A total of 3,637 homes will be built in CDD 12, including 1,700 villas, 1,928 standard homes and nine premier homes. Premier homes decline while villas are on the rise.
The ratio of villas to designers and premiers seems higher than other areas, not sure though.

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[Amb3rTastic]

I'm a local, born and raised in Wildwood. I'm not sure if it's impressive or scary...

I blame Witchcraft...

[twoplanekid]

I think that it has remained fairly constant, that mix. There are many, many more designers and cottages, and ranches and villas than premiers. Just what people want to buy.

For District 7
3,515 Standard Home Sites
1,250 Villa Home Sites
0 Premier Home Sites
4,765 Total Home Sites

For District 8
2,958 Standard Home Sites
2,004 Villa Home Sites
231 Premier Home Sites
5,193 Total Home Sites

For District 9
3,924 Standard Home Sites
1,249 Villa Home Sites
203 Premier Home Sites
5,376 Total Home Sites

I am in the process of obtaining the figures for District 10 as all other Districts have the numbers listed on the Districtgov web site.

[GoodLife]

For District 7
3,515 Standard Home Sites
1,250 Villa Home Sites
0 Premier Home Sites
4,765 Total Home Sites

For District 8
2,958 Standard Home Sites
2,004 Villa Home Sites
231 Premier Home Sites
5,193 Total Home Sites

For District 9
3,924 Standard Home Sites
1,249 Villa Home Sites
203 Premier Home Sites
5,376 Total Home Sites

I am in the process of obtaining the figures for District 10 as all other Districts have the numbers listed on the Districtgov web site.

Nice to get exact info thanks! Where on the districtgov website is this data located?

[twoplanekid]

Nice to get exact info thanks! Where on the districtgov website is this data located?

Using District 9 as an example -

VCDD District FAQs (http://www.districtgov.org/yourdistrict/faq.aspx?district=9)

[GoodLife]

Using District 9 as an example -

VCDD District FAQs (http://www.districtgov.org/yourdistrict/faq.aspx?district=9)

Got it thanks!

[vintageogauge]

when looking at the map for Fenny, it does appear that the patio and courtyards are indeed selling, although I think slowly, but the designer and cottage, not so much

There seems to be lots of blue dots...spec homes available for sale.

The villas are not selling slowly, the seem to sell out in a few weeks every time they release them. Last Thursday they released the Sweet Gum Villas and sold 12 within 24 hours, now a week later it is double that and most of these villa neighborhoods only have around 60 units. Sweetgum is still under construction and all of the other villas that have been completed are pretty much sold out except for those that are lacking something or on a bad lot. The first group of cottage homes sold out quickly also and the designers are selling pretty well with the exception of the streets running parallel to 468, those have walls and are going to be a little noisy, very well priced though but will be a tough sell to most buyers. The other sections seem to be selling very well, even the new southern section south of Fenny Way is selling now and most of the desirable view lots have been spoken for. It seems to be going very well down here and they just keep putting them up.

[Goldwingnut]

I started watching CYVs about 5 years ago when we decided that was our home of choice, since then, in every new area that opened up the first homes built were always CYVs and they have all sold quickly when they listed. When we purchased our villa 4 years ago they listed 12 the first evening and all were sold within 2 hours with waitlists for everyone sold in case someone got cold feet, we had 5 other people wanting ours, lucky for us our realtor was quick on the keyboard and got us the one we wanted. The big draws for CYVs are small/low maintenance yards, privacy, and pets (fenced in yards). For us we have 2 Golden Retrievers so a fenced yard was a must. We love ours and our neighborhood is very close and friendly. Wouldn't have anything else.

[Packer Fan]

Without restrictions on rentals this is a recipe for a decline of the quality of life for full timers.


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Not that many people buy rentals. If they did, the rental availability would go UP, it has gone down and rents are rising. Believe me, if anything there is a shortage of rentals for the high season.

[Packer Fan]

Makes you wonder how well they are constructed? Something to think about....

Really getting sick of hearing this stupidity. It takes about 2-3 hours to build a Toyota Camry- is that poor quality? TV uses a production approach that is fast, not poor quality

Ed

[Wiotte]

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[JoMar]

Without restrictions on rentals this is a recipe for a decline of the quality of life for full timers.


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The sky is falling.....again :)

[Wiotte]

Well, the trusses in my first house looked like #4 grade ( is that
possible ? ) The trusses in the house we have now are of much better quality


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[spring_chicken]

That is my question too. Are the new homes the same quality?

They've been throwing them up this quickly for many years. Quality is in the eye of the beholder. Someone who sold a 2000 sq ft home in NJ for 700k has a different expectation from a 2000 sq ft home for 200k.
Quantity vs quality. $$$

[billethkid]

I think there should be some recognition for a system of building homes at the rate 150 -400 homes per month (400 per month in the early 2000's).

One cannot compare the usual onesey twosey construction subdivisions (no matter the price).

TV has been doing it for 30 some years.....

They all meet the codes of the day and regions/area.

[Chatbrat]

Its not uncommon for a uniformed civil service worker to have a pension in excess of $100K, the person who took over my position which I left in 1983--prior to going into my own business- his retirement from the city was $165K--city pension,SS, Local 3 pension & annuity & IBEW national pension. Today even a NYV sanitation worker can get a pension of $100K--I don't know if it still works--but when if left your pension was based on ONE high year.

[graciegirl]

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[dirtbanker]

Its not uncommon for a uniformed civil service worker to have a pension in excess of $100K, the person who took over my position which I left in 1983--prior to going into my own business- his retirement from the city was $165K--city pension,SS, Local 3 pension & annuity & IBEW national pension. Today even a NYV sanitation worker can get a pension of $100K--I don't know if it still works--but when if left your pension was based on ONE high year.Slightly off topic, but thanks for sharing THAT!
Though, some people that worked in that field might not share your self description as "uninformed civil service worker"...


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[dirtbanker]

I think there should be some recognition for a system of building homes at the rate 150 -400 homes per month (400 per month in the early 2000's).

One cannot compare the usual onesey twosey construction subdivisions (no matter the price).

TV has been doing it for 30 some years.....

They all meet the codes of the day and regions/area.Agree...

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[fw102807]

I thought the point of retirement was downsizing. We went from a 3000 sq ft house up north to a 1700 sq ft villa and I love it.

[kstew43]

Slightly off topic, but thanks for sharing THAT!
Though, some people that worked in that field might not share your self description as "uninformed civil service worker"...


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its not uninformed.....not knowing vs uniformed.....what you wear to work

2 totally different words, just saying....

[upstate]

The final year salary, Tier 1 ended in 1973 for NYC uniformed services.

[justjim]

We first visited TV the second week of January, 2016. I believe it was a few weeks later when the plans for Fenney were announced. Now, a year later, it is unbelievable! Golf courses, rec center, hundreds of homes... all in under a year!
Is it just me, or is anyone else impressed with the speed of the development down there? And they are already starting homes in De Soto!

The building is what runs the “economic engine” of Florida and what keeps the taxes low and the primary reason for NO state income tax. That said, retirees have been coming to The Villages from high tax states and this will increase with the limits on state tax deductions just passed by Congress and signed into law. States with no State Incomes Taxes will benefit and the expansion with continue into the unforeseen future. We will likely continue to be impressed with the speed of development. :welcome:

[Chatbrat]

Not for NYC employees who were hired before 73-- I quit with a shade under 10 years--

[TNGary]

With the fast build rate and low cost to build, is a two year out buyer better off buying now or waiting?

[asianthree]

With the fast build rate and low cost to build, is a two year out buyer better off buying now or waiting?

Not about build out, it’s about finding the house you want to live in and the area. We have bought 2 new and then settled on a preowned which may or may not be our forever home. It’s easy to sell and move on. No attachments to a home like you were younger where you raised kids, and had family. Even if you move away from friends here they are still only a golf cart away.

The move from our first house here was easy, movers came tagged the furniture packed the boxes, and in our next house in few hours, including our golf cart.

[pauld315]

The building is what runs the “economic engine” of Florida and what keeps the taxes low and the primary reason for NO state income tax. . :welcome:

No, that would be tourism

[manaboutown]

The building is what runs the “economic engine” of Florida and what keeps the taxes low and the primary reason for NO state income tax. That said, retirees have been coming to The Villages from high tax states and this will increase with the limits on state tax deductions just passed by Congress and signed into law. States with no State Incomes Taxes will benefit and the expansion with continue into the unforeseen future. We will likely continue to be impressed with the speed of development. :welcome:

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[dirtbanker]

With the fast build rate and low cost to build, is a two year out buyer better off buying now or waiting?You might wish to reference Zillow for the projected growth of the area...and weight that against what your bank is paying in interest?

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[GoodLife]

Not that many people buy rentals. If they did, the rental availability would go UP, it has gone down and rents are rising. Believe me, if anything there is a shortage of rentals for the high season.


There are currently 32 properties showing availability for Feb/March 2018 on just one site villagershomes4rent so I wouldn't go so far to say there is a shortage. There is a lot of competition with more and more people renting homes here. If price, location etc are not competitive even high season is not a lock. I doubt all these homes will be rented at this late date.

[Packer Fan]

There are currently 32 properties showing availability for Feb/March 2018 on just one site villagershomes4rent so I wouldn't go so far to say there is a shortage. There is a lot of competition with more and more people renting homes here. If price, location etc are not competitive even high season is not a lock. I doubt all these homes will be rented at this late date.

This has been the same every year, until about the first week of February, then they are all gone. I get calls all year just asking even through I show rented on 2 homes. Every year the rents go up. Wish they would rent that well in the off season!

[Wiotte]

There are currently 32 properties showing availability for Feb/March 2018 on just one site villagershomes4rent so I wouldn't go so far to say there is a shortage. There is a lot of competition with more and more people renting homes here. If price, location etc are not competitive even high season is not a lock. I doubt all these homes will be rented at this late date.



Give those landlords a call to see if they are still available. Chances are they’re not. That’s
what my tenants would tell me when I rented out. They were very happy I answered their call or email.


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[GoodLife]

This has been the same every year, until about the first week of February, then they are all gone. I get calls all year just asking even through I show rented on 2 homes. Every year the rents go up. Wish they would rent that well in the off season!

Could be but it seems a bit late to be reserving your rental for Feb/March at this late date.

[GoodLife]

Give those landlords a call to see if they are still available. Chances are they’re not. That’s
what my tenants would tell me when I rented out. They were very happy I answered their call or email.


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Sorry no time for that, I just put in a search for Feb/March 2018 and that's what came up. A professional rental website should be able to update availability instantly but who knows.

[Wiotte]

Sorry no time for that, I just put in a search for Feb/March 2018 and that's what came up. A professional rental website should be able to update availability instantly but who knows.



It doesn’t. You pay the fee to list and that’s it. It’s up to the landlord to update. The website owner does nothing.


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[GoodLife]

It doesn’t. You pay the fee to list and that’s it. It’s up to the landlord to update. The website owner does nothing.


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Thanks, did not know that as I don't use that site for my rentals. Not a big fan of websites that don't keep info up to date.

[dirtbanker]

There are currently 32 properties showing availability for Feb/March 2018 on just one site villagershomes4rent so I wouldn't go so far to say there is a shortage. There is a lot of competition with more and more people renting homes here. If price, location etc are not competitive even high season is not a lock. I doubt all these homes will be rented at this late date.Several factors could come into play here. Those homes that are available:

Could really not be available, just as a previous poster suggested a landlord that does not update his listing (think of the several item you call about in the classifieds that have already been sold).

Something happened to the tenant that prevented them from being able to travel (I had a guy break his leg 6 weeks before he was supposed to arrive, he was in his late 70s and was not projected to be healed by then, so he cancelled his trip).

The homes might be in areas not convienant to the squares or could be less home than the renter's standards (only a select few would want to rent a trailer home next to a golf cart grave yard).

If you have a quality home to rent, in a clean village, located convienantly to the square, January February and March are never an issue.



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[dirtbanker]

.... on just one site villagershomes4rent...
That website...
I had a few homes on there and had been listing with them for probably 5 years. I decided to take one of my homes out of the rental and move into it. So I notified them that I would not be renewing that listing when it was to expire. They insisted that I still had to pay for the listing, because I could use the other listings (the ones I planned to renew) to get renters in the home I planned to move in.
So you have done business with me for 5 years and now you want to insult my business integrity over a listing fee on one of the homes that I said was not going to be used as a rental?...I canceled my other listings. My homes have been rented no problem since...and they can go pound salt!


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[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

We moved here in 2012 and there was nothing south of The Sarasota Driving Range. So yes, it is very impressive.

[John_W]

We first visited TV the second week of January, 2016. I believe it was a few weeks later when the plans for Fenney were announced. Now, a year later, it is unbelievable! Golf courses, rec center, hundreds of homes... all in under a year!
Is it just me, or is anyone else impressed with the speed of the development down there? And they are already starting homes in De Soto!

We first came to TV in April 2011 and Buena Vista ended at the Turtle Mound traffic circle, you could not go all the way to the red light at 466A. There was nothing south of 466A, the first homes for sale were opened in August 2011. I went there on a caravan put together by salesman Tony Trussler, who thought we might be interested even though we had already moved into Tamarind Grove. By August Buena Vista had connected to 466A and you could go east on 466A to Morse, but Morse only went to the first traffic circle. You either exited onto Pinellas or went back up Morse. You turned onto Pinellas and there was nothing but sand in every direction except for about 5 or 6 furnished models on Braddy Ct. You turned right on the second right turn which was Asher Ct and then right on Braddy Ct. and proceeded to the cul-de-sac at the end of the street to the models.

That area south of 466A was basically finished by 2015 until they bought the land in Lake County which became Pine Ridge, Pine Hills, LaBelle and Osceola Hills. Which added Belle Glade Country Club, several executives, 2 Rec Centers, a Shopping Center, etc.

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[diane reynolds]

To me, it is disgusting. Rampant development and no requirement for new homes to have solar panels. Money making rules The Villages.

[billethkid]

To me, it is disgusting. Rampant development and no requirement for new homes to have solar panels. Money making rules The Villages.

Really?!?!?

The other 99.6765349% disagree!

[rlcooper70]

Fascinating response - "a reflection of the degradation of the middle class" is interesting.

I offer to you that if people chose a life style (including the size of the retirement home) that they can afford then they will be happy. And all of use (65+) had an opportunity to accumulate some money (major economic expansion since 1980) and those who chose to focus on it have bigger houses ... and that it is the next generations whose pensions and retirement will be affected. Our generation is just fine.

[twoplanekid]

Everyone should take with a grain of salt the announcement today in the Village Daily Sun that “New Home Construction Soars in 2017 in Villages: Growth up 93 Percent, Value at $446M”.

I believe the paper was talking exclusively about Village growth in only Sumter County for this comparison of 2016 to 2017 as total sales in the Villages remain about the same for that time period. A newbie might not realize the Village growth that took place in Lake County during this same time period. So, their picture of growth could be distorted. It’s not growth up 93 Percent for the Villages as a whole.

It’s sometimes difficult for the news media in the headlines to present an accurate picture of what is happening.

[perrjojo]

To me, it is disgusting. Rampant development and no requirement for new homes to have solar panels. Money making rules The Villages.
I’m wondering at what point development should have stopped? The Villages had its first 400 homes in the 80s. Should Harold Schwartz have stopped then? When is enough enough? I think it is when people no longer want your product. As long as there is demand, TV will grow. BTW, any homeowner is free to add solar panels and many have done so.

[Chatbrat]

At the average age of people living and or moving into TV, solar panels IMHO is pure stupidity unless you have a contract from GOD to live to 110--the break even point $$ wise is in excess of 30 years & a lot of solar panels will not last in the Fl sun

[dyobrien]

Sometimes people buy the villa instead of a home for the sheer lack of privacy. We could afford both , but I was adament about the privacy. If the homes had fences maybe more would be sold. Just my opinion.

[JoMar]

Sometimes people buy the villa instead of a home for the sheer lack of privacy. We could afford both , but I was adament about the privacy. If the homes had fences maybe more would be sold. Just my opinion.

Hate fences. That's why they have options here....if you need privacy they have the home for you. I also don't think that selling homes here is an issue, they can sell what they build.

[twoplanekid]

There is another new Bridgeport for sale in Fenney with a major change to the kitchen area. It looks almost identical to one that sold several months ago along 468 in Fenney. The outside area is also unusual with a large pergola and large non-enclosed seating area. These houses in Fenney are interesting in that they are unique/different than other models of the same name up north in TV.

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[gweisheipl]

They are not pretty, expensive, and put multiple holes in your roof! No thanks!

[fastboat]

In 2009 I watch the house behind us go from a vacant lot to under roof in only 5 days. The huge empty property in front of us was quickly filled with 67 houses in bearly 2 months. I am impressed. Tell a builder up North that and they would never believe you.

[graciegirl]

In 2009 I watch the house behind us go from a vacant lot to under roof in only 5 days. The huge empty property in front of us was quickly filled with 67 houses in bearly 2 months. I am impressed. Tell a builder up North that and they would never believe you.

You are talking about the framing, not the finished home. Before that was the underlayment, the attachments to the infrastructure, the surveying and placement, and after that is all of the other things that happen when a house is built. A Villages home is not EVER completed in five days. They give you the date of closing when you sign the papers to buy. Ours was about three months and it had been done for a week or so. We watched it every day. It is our second new home in The Villages.

[John_W]

Framing is a term used in stick built homes. In the panhandle of Florida the under roof phase is what we called being 'dried in'. Your framing is completed, normally about 10 days on a larger home, your roof trusses have been set, plywood nailed down and exterior windows and doors set in place, so basically work inside can go on even on rainy days.

The OP said within 5 days, that's probably not framing because even here it will take a week or more to frame a house, but he was watching a masonry home go up. Of the 88 homes on Odessa Circle in Tamarind Grove I've watched over half of them go up on my daily walks. Almost all are masonry and they can lay the block normally in a day and half on a designer home. You'll know it's going on when you see about 15 cars and trucks parked out front of a home site, the next day the walls are complete. I had heard years ago that a normal masonry designer will take about 57 days from start to finish, and I think that's about right.

[amexsbow]

Is natural gas available for homes in Fenney?

[Fenney5776]

Yes, natural gas is available in Fenney....positively for designer homes....not sure about the villas.

[Goldwingnut]

Villas have gas also, they are using flash hot water heaters now which hang on the outside of the homes, in the Patio Villas you get to look at your neighbors HW heater when you sit out on your front porch.

[vintageogauge]

Villas have gas also, they are using flash hot water heaters now which hang on the outside of the homes, in the Patio Villas you get to look at your neighbors HW heater when you sit out on your front porch.

But you also have more storage in your furnace closet or wherever they used to put the hot water tank, fair tradeoff in my opinion.

[New Englander]

But you also have more storage in your furnace closet or wherever they used to put the hot water tank, fair tradeoff in my opinion.

Also, they are far more efficient than traditional hot water tanks.

[waterlily]

There is another new Bridgeport for sale in Fenney with a major change to the kitchen area. It looks almost identical to one that sold several months ago along 468 in Fenney. The outside area is also unusual with a large pergola and large non-enclosed seating area. These houses in Fenney are interesting in that they are unique/different than other models of the same name up north in TV.

Homefinder - The Villages(R) Homes and Villas for Sale (http://www.thevillages.com/homefinder/#/S4F.107?new&preowned&lng=-82.02504468441084&lat=28.79330284482259&lvl=11)

Was with a Villages Realtor the other day in Fenney. He took me to this house as I was interested in the Indigo & Silverbell floorplan. The home is out of my price range but he wanted me to see some of the changes they are making. He said that the design staff is trying out new things from comments by buyers. If the changed floorplan sells quickly, they try it again. I really liked what I was hearing from the rep about design. It will however cause me to wait a while longer on my purchase to see what other new design changes come along!

[waterlily]

Is natural gas available for homes in Fenney?

All homes have gas AVAILABLE. Not all homes are being outfitted with gas appliances. Even some lower priced designers.

[Brenda.ball]

Villas have gas also, they are using flash hot water heaters now which hang on the outside of the homes, in the Patio Villas you get to look at your neighbors HW heater when you sit out on your front porch.

The box for the water heater is so small, it is hardly noticed! I do wish they would put a HW booster in the master bath. It takes forever for hot water to get back there.

[Daddymac]

This has been the same every year, until about the first week of February, then they are all gone. I get calls all year just asking even through I show rented on 2 homes. Every year the rents go up. Wish they would rent that well in the off season!

If you are lucky 4 Months Of Rental. But most of the landlords
Get the 3 High Months Jan,Feb, Mar. The rest of the year you are sucking wind,, For most of the landlords it a losing proposition.
THAT IS THE FACTS.

[Daddymac]

To me, it is disgusting. Rampant development and no requirement for new homes to have solar panels. Money making rules The Villages.

When you bought your home in the villages, did it have solar,

[SERENITY52]

What golf courses. The amenities are not in proportion to the the amenities North of 42. Fenney and Souther Oaks are a sham. It's disgraceful.