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Sandtrap328
01-30-2018, 03:43 PM
There was a thread regarding a teacher who was "filmed" with cellphone making idiotic statements about the military.

The film went viral. Etc, etc.

Why allow cellphones in school? They are distractions to the entire classroom. Kids text each other during class, cheat on tests, and try to catch teachers doing something wrong.

Ban cellphone usage in schools except during lunch, changing classes, and before/after school. Emergencies from home can always be handled by front office staff - just like when we went to school.

billethkid
01-30-2018, 03:46 PM
There was a thread regarding a teacher who was "filmed" with cellphone making idiotic statements about the military.

The film went viral. Etc, etc.

Why allow cellphones in school? They are distractions to the entire classroom. Kids text each other during class, cheat on tests, and try to catch teachers doing something wrong.

Ban cellphone usage in schools except during lunch, changing classes, and before/after school. Emergencies from home can always be handled by front office staff - just like when we went to school.

Agreed!!

SFSkol
01-30-2018, 04:06 PM
They are distractions to the entire classroom. Kids text each other during class, cheat on tests, and try to catch teachers doing something wrong.

We had a very sophisticated note passing system in one class in High School. That was due to the fact that the teacher was terrible who made the topic uninteresting. No difference to today's messaging. Cheating? I can only guess you are presuming this to be a rampant issue.Only a foolish teacher would allow phone usage during a test. I had college professors that read from their book the whole class, I would have loved to have had a video/audio of that great interactive teaching method. I can only guess this poster has not been in school for quite a while.

Polar Bear
01-30-2018, 04:09 PM
Surprises me too that cell phones are allowed in school.

Listen to ST!! :)

GrnThumb
01-30-2018, 06:17 PM
I think it started after Sept 11th when parents and children tried to reconnect and also after Columbine and other attacks.

JoMar
01-30-2018, 06:29 PM
It is not our world anymore......the generations behind us are making and enforcing their own rules. When I drive around TV and see all the kids here there is evidently a relaxed atmosphere when you can take kids out of school. My generation.....had to be an emergency to get me out of my school. My kids are just as guilty.....pull the kids when something comes up that they want to do. They play the education card when they come here and the school just says ok......their education trip ends up at the pool, the movies, the squares etc.

Marathon Man
01-30-2018, 09:43 PM
It is not our world anymore......the generations behind us are making and enforcing their own rules. ...

An excellent bit of wisdom. Well said.

Amb3rTastic
01-31-2018, 08:35 AM
As a "millennial" I can assure you, MOST schools do not allow cell phone usage in class. I've had my phone taken away multiple times when I was in school because my alarm went off or because it was seen in my lap. Sometimes, you'll have the occasional "cool" teacher or sub that's not concerned by them, but usually only in down time.
I didn't watch that video, but I'm assuming he's either one of those teachers, or a sub.

Polar Bear
01-31-2018, 10:13 AM
As a "millennial" I can assure you, MOST schools do not allow cell phone usage in class...
I thought that might be the case. Glad to hear it. :)

Amb3rTastic
01-31-2018, 10:16 AM
I thought that might be the case. Glad to hear it. :)

I'm here to keep you informed of the lives us youngins live :posting:
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mulligan
01-31-2018, 10:25 AM
Real simple. AS you walk into the classroom, drop your phone into a steel box. If you are caught with a phone on your person, you get a "0" for the day in that class. Add up a few of those, and you fail. Problem solved.

spring_chicken
01-31-2018, 10:43 AM
I would want my teenager to be able to contact me in the event of an emergency. School lockdowns, shooters, weather emergencies...
As for the constant disparagement of an entire generation that happens frequently on this board, it appears the millennials are actually smarter than the previous generations.
Just one example: Millennials Saving More Than Generation X and Baby Boomers | Money (http://time.com/money/4882463/millennials-saving-retirement-genx-baby-boomers/)

justjim
01-31-2018, 10:54 AM
Real simple. AS you walk into the classroom, drop your phone into a steel box. If you are caught with a phone on your person, you get a "0" for the day in that class. Add up a few of those, and you fail. Problem solved.

Sounds like a good idea but imagine the chaos when they get another students phone out of that box. In the unlikely event of a shooting, parents want their kids to be able to communicate with them and the students “feel safer” with their phones. It’s a complicated issue.

billethkid
01-31-2018, 10:58 AM
I would want my teenager to be able to contact me in the event of an emergency. School lockdowns, shooters, weather emergencies...
As for the constant disparagement of an entire generation that happens frequently on this board, it appears the millennials are actually smarter than the previous generations.
Just one example: Millennials Saving More Than Generation X and Baby Boomers | Money (http://time.com/money/4882463/millennials-saving-retirement-genx-baby-boomers/)

The comfort to know is understandable. ....from the parents side.

From the students side......they are content as long as they have their phone to do all their "phone things" most of which should not be done while school is in session.

One's opinion, background and of course as demonstrated above, the pertinent generation, are all factors.

bluedivergirl
01-31-2018, 11:10 AM
Our grandson lived with us for a time. We set his phone (on the provider's website) so it would only call us or his mother during school hours. He complained, of course, but he was unable to change it.

mulligan
01-31-2018, 11:15 AM
How did I get through 20 years of school without a phone ??

Sgroemm
01-31-2018, 11:20 AM
Many schools are moving towards allowing technology (cell phones, tablets, laptops, etc.) to be used in our student's daily education. Our high school here in NJ worked very hard to give each student a laptop for daily use in class. They also are allowed to have a cell phone in class for grades 7-12. There are some great apps out there that allow each student to respond on their cell phone, to a question sent by the instructor (25 instant responses replaces 1-2 hands raised). Others allow students to respond to a query posted in a closed online forum, enhancing typing and writing skills. Of course it does not replace instruction, but technology communication is the future and most careers require this knowledge, so we are planning for their future at the same time as enhancing instruction.

That being said, any experienced teacher also employs a shelf in the classroom as the cell phone/device parking lot. During tests or other designated tech down times, students must park their phone for the duration of the class. Its easy to spot perpetual texting and that often earns a time out in the cell phone parking lot also. Its all a matter of balance. It is the future and one of the reasons my daughter earned her engineering job above hundreds of applicants is due to the fact that she is tech savvy and can even write code! Google first year employees earn $70,000- $100,000. We cannot leave this important part of career readiness out of education. Rules, boundaries, limitations....good teachers just set the parameters for their use. 33 years in the classroom here.

spring_chicken
01-31-2018, 11:22 AM
While most older people do not like change, improving technology has made life a lot easier for millions of people. If you don't like it, may I suggest moving to an Amish community where you don't have to put up with all this "change"?

justjim
01-31-2018, 12:43 PM
I can see the use of cell phones in the classroom. Our Church now encourages the use of your cell phone during services. You can follow the sermon and take notes as the preacher delivers his sermon. The times they are changing!

photo1902
01-31-2018, 01:30 PM
:bigbow:While most older people do not like change, improving technology has made life a lot easier for millions of people. If you don't like it, may I suggest moving to an Amish community where you don't have to put up with all this "change"?

Doro22
01-31-2018, 01:53 PM
There was a thread regarding a teacher who was "filmed" with cellphone making idiotic statements about the military.

The film went viral. Etc, etc.

Why allow cellphones in school? They are distractions to the entire classroom. Kids text each other during class, cheat on tests, and try to catch teachers doing something wrong.

Ban cellphone usage in schools except during lunch, changing classes, and before/after school. Emergencies from home can always be handled by front office staff - just like when we went to school.
Well...I retired as a teacher/media specialist in Ft. Lauderdale in 2010 and our district did not allow the students to have cell phones in class. Honestly it was a no win situation. The students used them all the time. When the teacher called security to confiscate the cell phone the students would not just hand it over in a docile manner. Oh no! You would think they were having their hands amputated by the actions of these kids. One girl tried to get the campus police officer’s weapon from the holster. And this was because she had gone to the restroom and was texting sexually explicit photos of herself to other students on campus. It caused so much chaos that of course she was found out. I kid you not. A total nightmare!

Marathon Man
01-31-2018, 01:55 PM
Calculators and computers are used during tests, etc. Things are different in 2018. Our way of thinking may no longer fit. That's OK. It is the way of the world.

And yes, with all the school shootings, parents need to be able to reach their children.

It's Hot There
01-31-2018, 02:00 PM
Having them is not the issue, using them at the wrong times is the issue.

All my grandkids have them in class.

Parents like the tracking feature too.

Polar Bear
01-31-2018, 02:06 PM
While most older people do not like change, improving technology has made life a lot easier for millions of people. If you don't like it, may I suggest moving to an Amish community where you don't have to put up with all this "change"?
Pretty harsh.

What you describe is a far cry from wanting reasonable controls related to personal technology in our schools.

billethkid
01-31-2018, 02:09 PM
Calculators and computers are used during tests, etc. Things are different in 2018. Our way of thinking may no longer fit. That's OK. It is the way of the world.

And yes, with all the school shootings, parents need to be able to reach their children.

As long as we remain vigilant that the morals and behaviors established by right and wrong do not allow degradation.

That being said, we have definitely experienced a significant decline in respect and decency.
The new technologies have been allowed the insignificant to become significant...by choice.
The isolated be presented as if a general condition.
Permissiveness and lack of disciplinehas been and continues to rule no matter how wrong an act or action may be.

Technology has been good for the advancement of mankind.
Technology has facilitated the devaluing of humankinds core values.

Yes these are the signs of the times.....does not mean they are right/acceptable.

manaboutown
01-31-2018, 02:54 PM
There was a thread regarding a teacher who was "filmed" with cellphone making idiotic statements about the military.

The film went viral. Etc, etc.

Why allow cellphones in school? They are distractions to the entire classroom. Kids text each other during class, cheat on tests, and try to catch teachers doing something wrong.

Ban cellphone usage in schools except during lunch, changing classes, and before/after school. Emergencies from home can always be handled by front office staff - just like when we went to school.

Well, this student put one to good use. Not only did this dirtbag “teacher” denigrate our fine military, he used a lot of very foul language which alone should get him fired if not more. I would not want my daughter to have to sit and listen to his foul mouth!

Doro22
01-31-2018, 02:58 PM
Well, this student put one to good use. Not only did this dirtbag “teacher” denigrate our fine military, he used a lot of very foul language which alone should get him fired if not more. I would not want my daughter to have to sit and listen to his foul mouth!

Totally agree, Manabouttown!

Sandtrap328
01-31-2018, 03:04 PM
I had no idea my beginning this thread would bring so many replies.

Okay, let's revise it a bit.

Cellphones to be allowed in schools BUT must be OFF except during lunch, changing classes, or before and after school.

Any student caught texting, etc, during class would get a 0 for the day - even it was a test day. "Sexting" would be automatic expulsion, or at least, suspension.

Home emergencies can be called in to the front office and relayed to the student who could be excused from class to call home.

Comments?

Sandtrap328
01-31-2018, 03:12 PM
Totally agree, Manabouttown!

Yes, the cellphone video was put to good use THIS time - but what about the times you mentioned including the girl who was using her cellphone to take sexually explicit pictures of herself and sending them to other students?

I would venture a guess the latter is more prevalent than the former for cellphone usage in schools.

manaboutown
01-31-2018, 03:20 PM
Yes, the cellphone video was put to good use THIS time - but what about the times you mentioned including the girl who was using her cellphone to take sexually explicit pictures of herself and sending them to other students?

I would venture a guess the latter is more prevalent than the former for cellphone usage in schools.

I agree their use while in class should not be allowed except in extreme emergencies such as the initial case.

How about this type of situation? Student caught on cell phone video assaulting substitute teacher | abc13.com (http://abc13.com/news/nimitz-student-arrested-after-alleged-assault-on-teacher/63652/)

Or this?Student 'Body Slams' Teacher Who Took Cell Phone (VIDEO) | HuffPost (https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/01/26/student-arrested-after-bo_n_6547746.html)

Or this time? VIDEO: Teen punches teacher in the face during class (http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/crime--law/video-teen-punches-teacher-the-face-during-class/4R13ulA6MlfW7oZFGBSTkM/)

Sandtrap328
01-31-2018, 06:26 PM
I agree their use while in class should not be allowed except in extreme emergencies such as the initial case.

How about this type of situation? Student caught on cell phone video assaulting substitute teacher | abc13.com (http://abc13.com/news/nimitz-student-arrested-after-alleged-assault-on-teacher/63652/)

Or this?Student 'Body Slams' Teacher Who Took Cell Phone (VIDEO) | HuffPost (https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/01/26/student-arrested-after-bo_n_6547746.html)

Or this time? VIDEO: Teen punches teacher in the face during class (http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/crime--law/video-teen-punches-teacher-the-face-during-class/4R13ulA6MlfW7oZFGBSTkM/)

When you and I were in school, there were no cellphones but teachers were assaulted from time to time. The student was simply expelled. No real need for the video. However, it could be called an emergency and the video would be conclusive proof.

EPutnam1863
01-31-2018, 06:41 PM
I have mixed feelings. Cell phones may be a boon in some situations but they also may encourage thoughtlessness, selfishness, and rudeness. Who enjoys having dinner with someone who is constantly checking her cell phone? Who wants to ride in a car with a driver who is constantly using her cell phone, ignoring your presence. The list is long.

manaboutown
01-31-2018, 07:58 PM
When you and I were in school, there were no cellphones but teachers were assaulted from time to time. The student was simply expelled. No real need for the video. However, it could be called an emergency and the video would be conclusive proof.

I cannot recall a single incident of a student or students assaulting a teacher when and where I grew up in Albuquerque, New Mexico. Sadly, today it is a very different story all around our country. Thuggish behavior in schools needs to be stopped and recording abusive teaching tactics and language, assaults and batteries with cell phones may help.

Tripngirl
02-01-2018, 12:02 PM
Look forward to your weighing in on the
topics.

billethkid
02-02-2018, 09:46 AM
Positive results with the banning of a proven distraction:

Seymour High School Reports Positive Results After Cell Phone Ban - NBC Connecticut (https://www.nbcconnecticut.com/news/local/Seymour-High-School-Reports-Positive-Results-After-Cell-Phone-Ban-472029253.html)

Just requires leadership that is not afraid of doing what is right!!