Breaking news on Wesh 2 Shooting in TV!!

[graciegirl]

Breaking news on Orlando station. Shooting on Bloomington Street in the Village of Glenbrook. (Glen something)

Who knows more?

[carm310]

Orlando News

http://www.wesh.com/news/21599541/detail.html

[graciegirl]

I can't open the link because I bet every man woman and dog is trying to get information at the same time, all 77 thousand of us.

I heard that a woman is barracaded in her home on Bloomington Place (near the Glenview Country Club) after several shots were fired and Wesh 2 is there live.

[chuckinca]

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/21599274/detail.html

[carm310]

This is all that it says, it was updated at 6:30, there is a map and it looks like it is behind The Glenview Golf.

THE VILLAGES, Fla. -- Authorities said there has been a shooting in The Villages.
The incident was reported late Thursday on Bloomington Place in the northwest corner of The Villages in Sumter County in the Village at Glen Brook subdivision.

Authorities said the shooting began as a domestic dispute in which a woman shot a man.

The man was airlifted to a nearby hospital with multiple gunshot wounds.

Authorities said the woman has barricaded herself inside the home after the shooting.

The Villages is a massive retirement community that sprawls across parts of Sumter, Lake and Marion counties.

Stay with WESH 2 News and WESH.com for further updates on this story.

Copyright 2009 by WESH.COM. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

[golfnut]

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[graciegirl]

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[eremite06]

One report said Talley Ridge.

[graciegirl]

Busy with my map. Bloomington Place dead ends into TallyRidge. Looked up owners on Sumterpa.com. ....As if I would know who it is..:024:

[Barefoot]

This should put The Villages on the map for sure. And perhaps reinforce the "Leisureville" perspective of sex and inappropriate behaviour.

Sadly, it sounds like a "domestic" which can errupt anywhere. I hope all people involved are OK and will work things out.

[SUNNYMARYANN]

sounds like she was mad about something.

[Bogie Shooter]

This should put The Villages on the map for sure. And perhaps reinforce the "Leisureville" perspective of sex and inappropriate behaviour.

Sadly, it sounds like a "domestic" which can errupt anywhere. I hope all people involved are OK and will work things out.
Why not let Leisureville die a quick death. It has had its 15 minutes of fame!

[Russ_Boston]

sounds like she was mad about something.

That's weird, when my wife gets mad she dosen't SHOOT me!

At least not yet:)

[graciegirl]

People involved were Denise and Dennis Textor, he an ex police officer and she is 51 years old. They've lived here since 2005 according to Sumterpa.com.

She shot him several times and he crawled out of bathroom window.

She is arrested after being holed up in house for four hours appearing briefly twice with gun in hand.

That's all I know.

[Larryandlinda]

People involved were Denise and Dennis Textor, he an ex police officer and she is 51 years old. They've lived here since 2005 according to Sumter, Pa. She shot him several times and he crawled out of bathroom window.

That's all I know. She is arrested after being holed up in house for four hours appearing briefly twice with gun in hand.
Thanks for the updates
It's too late for this to be in tomorrow's Sun,
though it might not have made the news anyway
But who needs them with radio free Gracie?
Well, we're glad pistol packin' mama laid her pistol down before this became a more serious story.
L&L

[billethkid]

gun in hand in front of police, SWAT, etc....and still be alive. The only reason they did not shoot is she held the gun pointing down. If she had raised the gun the outcome could have been very different.

TV is already on the map. All she did was demonstrate that statistically, any community has it's nut cases.

btk

[jblum8156]

A long time ago in another world, my son's girlfriend's mother shot and killed her husband. They were both drunk. She later died in prison, having ruined several lives besides her own. Grim.

[SABRMnLgs]

I was wondering whether Super Channel 2 had it's crack mobile crew out there to do a "breaking news story"?!!

Yeah right!

[jdsl1998]

I don't know everything that happened and will never know the history. I only can pray for all involved.

[chuckster]

I was wondering whether Super Channel 2 had it's crack mobile crew out there to do a "breaking news story"?!!

Yeah right!

As seen in today's Sun, there is a VNN among other microphones during questioning of the public info person. So "Super Channel 2" was there..........chilout

[graciegirl]

AND who knew Sumter county had a SWAT team? With a big custom made Hummerish tank like vehicle...probably paid for with money from Homeland Security. Betcha it had never been out of the garage. AND...thankfully it was a cool evening here too, so the team didn't get all hot in all of their gear.

The couple is from Manahawkin, New Jersey originally. A close friend, also from that area (I think) whose last name is Natarelli, a retired police chief, talked her into surrendering.

When originally reported last night on the news they said the Villages spanned two counties, but on the 11:00 version we had reached three counties.

She is held without bail and will be charged with attempted murder...first degree I think.

All this gleaned from this morning's Sun. I hope it is correct...Tony has questioned me. Sigh....He doesn't question Boomer.

I really shouldn't be so flip. The article also reported that Mr. Textor had been shot twice in the upper torso and had surgery Thursday evening in Orlando and was listed in critical condition.

[mgm4444]

http://www.wesh.com/video/21602306/index.html

[pooh]

Oh MY GOODNESS, I know these two...played in a billiards league with them in the past. Both seemed like very nice people.

I'm so sorry that something in their lives led to this horrific event. Prayers for both of them and their family go up.

[bluedog103]

Very funny Sunny. You have to smack some folks in the head with a 2X4 to get them to see understated humor.

[Tweety Bird]

I've worked with a domestic abuse agency for quite a few years. It doesn't surprise me that domestics flair up in TV. Literally, it can happen with anyone or anywhere. A "nice" couple can have their issues behind closed doors. I really think it's best never to have a gun in the house. When a man or woman goes "temporarily crazy" (of course, I never have) :angel: haha, it is amazing what one can resort to.


http://www.theduluthmodel.org/pdf/PhyVio.pdf

This is a Power and Control Wheel. This rage of hers :rant-rave: could have escalated after years of "who knows what". Somehow, she went over the edge and unless we know the "inside story", we'll never really know.

[carm310]

So sad.... :sad:

[bluedog103]

True, you never know what will push someone over the edge. Certainly this is something that will change their lives forever.

[mgm4444]

No Bond for Woman in Villages Shooting

http://www.wesh.com/news/21606518/detail.html

[billethkid]

Of course not.

Guns are not the problem anymore than the knife in the knife rack....or the scissors....or the ball bat....or the car!!!!

The other 99% of married couples who have a gun in the home are/feel safe because of it.....why change that for the 1% who might use a gun while wacko?

btk

[Sally Jo]

Well put, btk.

[graciegirl]

I dunno BTK. I have never held a gun or really seen one up close. We don't have a gun. My grandmother advised that love and hate can be really very close sometime and it is wise to not have a gun in the house. They do a LOT of damage very quickly.

[chuckinca]

:agree::agree:


99% of people who don't have a gun in the house feel/are safer without one.


(and I have experience with guns)



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[Tweety Bird]

Of course not.

Guns are not the problem anymore than the knife in the knife rack....or the scissors....or the ball bat....or the car!!!!

The other 99% of married couples who have a gun in the home are/feel safe because of it.....why change that for the 1% who might use a gun while wacko?

btk

No..the rage does NOT go away. However, if the gun is there..it is most likely to be used in a domestic. If you feel safer with a gun while you travel, keep it in the safety deposit box and pull it out when you're ready to travel. Of course knives and scissors are used, but she was obviously out to kill. In the heart and twice in the torso. Probably when he was trying to escape out the window.

[Talk Host]

You've gotta wonder what goes through people's minds to make them shoot a gun into a fleeing victim. Specially a victim that you have spent your life with, made love to, produced children with and shared (hopefully) some wonderful times with.

We don't know the story, but it's sad. BTW, the gun didn't shoot him, she did.

JLK

[Julie]

You've gotta wonder what goes through people's minds to make them shoot a gun into a fleeing victim. Specially a victim that you have spent your life with, made love to, produced children with and shared (hopefully) some wonderful times with.

We don't know the story, but it's sad. BTW, the gun didn't shoot him, she did.

JLK

Yes, one must wonder what would bring a person to pull a gun out and shoot their loved(?) one.

And you are right, she shot the gun. I've lived around guns my entire life and I've also been EXCEPTIONALLY peeved off at my loved ones. Not once has it ever crossed my mind to pull one of the guns out to harm them.

Come to think of it, the only time I've ever taken a gun out to use was when I was target practicing.

[In awe of TV]

Yes, one must wonder what would bring a person to pull a gun out and shoot their loved(?) one.

And you are right, she shot the gun. I've lived around guns my entire life and I've also been EXCEPTIONALLY peeved off at my loved ones. Not once has it ever crossed my mind to pull one of the guns out to harm them.

Come to think of it, the only time I've ever taken a gun out to use was when I was target practicing.


Here, here Julie. Well said.

[SUNNYMARYANN]

when i get mad I stop talking and he loves that.

[dillywho]

It was reported that she had reached her wits end because of his domineering and controlling and she reportedly said that she just couldn't take any more. I have seen this first hand in others, as well as experienced it myself. Shooting, etc. is not an answer, but divorce can most certainly be.

Unfortunately, some of the contolling/domineering can get really dangerous for the party leaving or even trying to leave or attempting to get help for the situation. This is why many times couples perceived to be "ideal" are such a shock to everyone when something drastic or tragic happens.

I was asked to edit this for clarification as to the statement I made that it was "reported" that she could no longer endure his control and being "always on her case".

I saw it reported on a newscast, Channel 9 to be specific. It is also on Channel 9 and Channel 6 websites.

The whole point of this post is to say that others really don't know why this happened as it did and that we have no right to judge her at this point. Did she handle it the best way? Absolutely not! I just wonder what the comments would be if she had shot herself instead to change her situation or her perception of it.

My dad had a great philosophy: To quote him, "I never did see a board that didn't have two sides."

I don't mean to offend anyone, but would just like for everyone to withhold judgements of either of them. We didn't live there...they did.

[The Great Fumar]

I reached that point many years ago but she's a better shot than I...

Makes for a peaceful coexistance.......

not so dead eye fumar

[blueeagle65]

Surprise, surprise.... not a word in The Daily Sun on Sunday.:shrug:

[Bogie Shooter]

Surprise, surprise.... not a word in The Daily Sun on Sunday.:shrug:
What is left to say?

[graciegirl]

I keep humming "He Had It Comin" from All That Jazz. Sweetie has been SO nice to me.!

[Taltarzac]

Surprise, surprise.... not a word in The Daily Sun on Sunday.:shrug:

Friday's Orlando Sentinel has an article but I did not get anything more current in my noon Sunday search. http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/lake/os-villages-shooting-arrest-20091113,0,4933755.story

[SteveFromNY]

Surprise, surprise.... not a word in The Daily Sun on Sunday.:shrug:

It was front page news in Saturday's printed edition.

[tpop1]

The problem is - She is the �victim� because she�s controlled by him?

....... and/or

The problem is - There is a gun in the house crying out to be used?

Let�s get real here��. We all have free will.

The sooner society realizes that we all have to live with the consequences of our actions, the better off we will be as a society.

[bargee]

Perhaps we should end this discussion and offer a quiet prayer from our hearts for both unfortunate souls.

[Tweety Bird]

Perhaps we should end this discussion and offer a quiet prayer from our hearts for both unfortunate souls.

No..let's not end the discussion. I haven't posted publicly, and I feel that it needs to be talked about. Domestic crap is like a BIG ELEPHANT in a room. Let people talk!

[bargee]

Ok ?????

[saratogaman]

What is your first-hand knowledge of their "sex and inappropriate behavior?"
Do you know these people or are you just being judgmental?
He's wounded and in the hospital and she's in jail.
Butt out until the facts are known!

[pooh]

I agree .... no one here really knows either of these people. I have interacted with them in the past and both were enjoyable to be with. What has changed in their lives we really have no knowledge of. Both were in law enforcement before moving here and retired law enforcement officers still might have weapons...and permits to have such. Have a retired state police officer as a family member...and he still has his pistol.

Something went wrong between two individuals and judgment should be reserved. Maybe he was controlling, maybe he wasn't...we really don't know, and we might never know.

Domestic violence is something so many don't talk about...it really is difficult to deal with and for many people, ignored. Those abused, can become the abuser as they get older. It's up to parents to help their children, male and female, realize that abuse is not the way to gain power or respect.

Don't mean to get to preaching, it's just painful to realize that two people I've interacted with and enjoyed being around now have lives that are forever changed.

[JimJoe]

I totally agree that we should wait for the facts.. BUT IMHO... calling them both unfortunate souls, or suggesting it is ok to shoot your spouse if they are "controlling" is not a good idea. It is not ok to shoot your spouse unless you are acting in immediate self defense. The person who shoots their spouse whether it be the man or the woman, is not an unfortunate soul, unless they are acting in immediate self defense.

[Shirleevee]

when i get mad I stop talking and he loves that.

We must be mariied to the same man!

[bythecsure]

Does anyone know what happened to Denise Textor? I read she tried to commit suicide but that is the last of any news.

[graciegirl]

Is that the shooter? What happened to her husband? And to the neighbors? Can you imagine opening your front door to find a naked bleeding man with holes in him?

[pooh]

Is that the shooter? What happened to her husband? And to the neighbors? Can you imagine opening your front door to find a naked bleeding man with holes in him?

Goodness when I saw the title of the thread, I didn't immediately recognize that it was from a prior event....and you have to realize an ambulance had just gone by on Morse behind my house when I saw the post was very, very recent. Immediately changed the tv to WESH!

Someone gave me some info on Dennis and Denise, but honestly, I'm not sure if they had their facts correct either so I'll say nothing about it.

The entire situation was sad...and we may never really know what and why.

[Bogie Shooter]

Goodness when I saw the title of the thread, I didn't immediately recognize that it was from a prior event....and you have to realize an ambulance had just gone by on Morse behind my house when I saw the post was very, very recent. Immediately changed the tv to WESH!

Someone gave me some info on Dennis and Denise, but honestly, I'm not sure if they had their facts correct either so I'll say nothing about it.

The entire situation was sad...and we may never really know what and why.

try google.

[Larryandlinda]

Does anyone know what happened to Denise Textor? I read she tried to commit suicide but that is the last of any news.

This is why guns are not good to have around.

They get into the hands of people that don't know how to use them and thus
harm innocent people.

If this lady tried suicide, she had the weapon pointing the wrong way.

Google news had nothing as far as we saw

Fortunately this is old history not news and few outside were affected.

Lights out, Villagers.
It's 10 PM
Sun's up in 8 hours and the tees, courts, and bike paths are waiting for you!

L and L

[pooh]

try google.

I did and found out about her attempted suicide. The info I got was from earlier this year, before that particular incident and I have no idea if it's true.

[graciegirl]

Goodness when I saw the title of the thread, I didn't immediately recognize that it was from a prior event....and you have to realize an ambulance had just gone by on Morse behind my house when I saw the post was very, very recent. Immediately changed the tv to WESH!

Someone gave me some info on Dennis and Denise, but honestly, I'm not sure if they had their facts correct either so I'll say nothing about it.

The entire situation was sad...and we may never really know what and why.

I don't know how this thread got revived. Must be a slow Sunday night over at TH's.

[villa2]

This is why guns are not good to have around.

They get into the hands of people that don't know how to use them and thus
harm innocent people.

If this lady tried suicide, she had the weapon pointing the wrong way.

Google news had nothing as far as we saw

Fortunately this is old history not news and few outside were affected.

Lights out, Villagers.
It's 10 PM
Sun's up in 8 hours and the tees, courts, and bike paths are waiting for you!

L and L

A few short years ago in my home town a couple were found dead with zip ties around their necks. It was determined to be a murder suicide. I guess zip ties are not good to have around?

[Larryandlinda]

.......Our last posting might have gone over some heads!

A few short years ago in my home town a couple were found dead with zip ties around their necks. It was determined to be a murder suicide. I guess zip ties are not good to have around?

But if you're TV-official age you're
excused! ;)

L and L

[jblum8156]

I just realized this was from last year. What exactly is the point of running it again on TOTV?

[villa2]

.......Our last posting might have gone over some heads!



But if you're TV-official age you're
excused! ;)

L and L

When everybody in town heard that they used zip ties for the murder-suicide, nobody could believe it. What is a zip tie? ( for the uninformed) It is a plastic band that locks when tightened and can only be removed by something sharp, like a knife or scissors.( they were around their necks)

The point being: if your determined to kill yourself or someone else, you do not need a gun.

[Tweety Bird]

Actually this particular thread interested me way back and Im facinated that it had been revived. I worked with domestic violence in my line of work (in the past) and I have felt sadness for Denise. (I don't know her). She snapped. What she did was wrong. Have we all not snapped a little and done something or said something wrong? Of course shooting the husband is snapping a bit too far. I often wished I could visit with her and just talk it out. She needs an advocate just to hear her out. She ruined her life. Trying to kill the husband will only lock her up in jail. From paradise to jail. Man...what a change. Geeeeez

[manaboutown]

The person I feel sorry for is the victim, i.e., the man who was shot. Unless it was in self defense his wife tried to murder him. As for abuse issues, until the facts are known who is to say who abused whom? Shooting the fellow in an attempt to kill him is clearly abuse in my book!

As for guns, I keep one around for personal defense although I do not carry it all the time. A close friend of mine is a retired deputy sheriff and he must carry one wherever he goes in case some felon he may have put in prison attempts to use deadly force on him. Some convicts have sworn to kill him when they get out. Several people, women included, I know or know of have saved their own lives upon occasion by using a gun they had with them in a purse, backpack, car or wherever, against an attacker. One may not have 20 minutes to survive until the police arrive. Incidentally, statistics show the highest murder rates occur where gun control laws prohibit citizens from keeping guns for self defense. The wolves know where the lambs are unarmed. Gun control of course does not keep guns out of the hands of criminals.

[Taltarzac]

It does not look like Denise Textor even has a trial start date yet from the various searches I have done. She was denied bail in January '10 and then tried to commit suicide in April of '10.

[Tweety Bird]

The person I feel sorry for is the victim, i.e., the man who was shot. Unless it was in self defense his wife tried to murder him. As for abuse issues, until the facts are known who is to say who abused whom? Shooting the fellow in an attempt to kill him is clearly abuse in my book!

As for guns, I keep one around for personal defense although I do not carry it all the time. A close friend of mine is a retired deputy sheriff and he must carry one wherever he goes in case some felon he may have put in prison attempts to use deadly force on him. Some convicts have sworn to kill him when they get out. Several people, women included, I know or know of have saved their own lives upon occasion by using a gun they had with them in a purse, backpack, car or wherever, against an attacker. One may not have 20 minutes to survive until the police arrive. Incidentally, statistics show the highest murder rates occur where gun control laws prohibit citizens from keeping guns for self defense. The wolves know where the lambs are unarmed. Gun control of course does not keep guns out of the hands of criminals.

You are absolutely right about her husband being the victim. He was and if he is fighting for his life, he is still the victim physically and emotionally.

She was wrong, wrong, wrong by shooting him. Of course! But, I do feel sorry for her in the sense that I can only presume a negative scenario behind closed doors.

Don't laugh, but I snapped while my husband and I were out having dinner many years ago. He was merciless with whatever he was saying and I threw the contents of my wine glass at him. But, I missed. The wine flew over to the next booth behind him. The customer emerged from his booth and what made it worse is that I knew the couple. That was one night I was glad I didn't have a gun. haha!

But, you have turned my head around where gun control is concerned. I've learned something from this and I appreciate the education. It makes absolute sense if police are not able to get to your destination and your life is in danger where you could have used a gun.

I like when these discussions surface. I can only learn OR educate others.

[pooh]

I just realized this was from last year. What exactly is the point of running it again on TOTV?

Came up because bythecsure asked a question that was a continuation of this particular thread. Better to keep the topic in one location than start another thread....but it did take me by surprise....thought something had happened!

[manaboutown]

But, I do feel sorry for her in the sense that I can only presume a negative scenario behind closed doors.

Presumptions are not facts. By the way, in this country we are all presumed innocent until proven guilty, not guilty until proven innocent. Indeed, what may have gone on behind closed doors is she was abusing him all along and finally attempted to kill him by shooting him in the chest.

Back when I was in my mid twenties I worked with a fellow who had met a woman through an early computer dating service. He started to show up at work with bruises on his arms, neck and face. Black eyes followed and finally a broken arm. His office mate and I got her identification out of him and we called the police. She was arrested and convicted of battering him.

[Tweety Bird]

Presumptions are not facts. By the way, in this country we are all presumed innocent until proven guilty, not guilty until proven innocent. Indeed, what may have gone on behind closed doors is she was abusing him all along and finally attempted to kill him by shooting him in the chest.

Back when I was in my mid twenties I worked with a fellow who had met a woman through an early computer dating service. He started to show up at work with bruises on his arms, neck and face. Black eyes followed and finally a broken arm. His office mate and I got her identification out of him and we called the police. She was arrested and convicted of battering him.


That is a very sad situation. Thank you for sharing. I used the word PRESUME!!!!!!! I can personally presume anything I want thank you and I'm not in a court of law at the moment. Yes, women batter men. THAT is a fact. But the numbers of men hitting/or emotionally battering women is a higher stat. And..men are traditionally stronger than women. I will not presume ANYTHING about this "particular" couple because I have never met them. But, this is a very interesting subject, because when you are financially set and retired and have all the materialistic STUFF that you want and you have grandchildren and mutual friends....walking out the door is the hardest thing to do. It's VERY hard. Anybody that shoots their partner, however, has snapped and gone over the edge. That situation was attempted murder, and that's not a presumption. This thread though is very important because it is such a hush hush topic, and it's not just about Denise and Dennis...it is about the big elephant in the room that we never see or are aware of. I've been in the field of domestic abuse for many years in the past. I have been to many trainings and worked along side with law enforcement. I've been at the side of a particular young pregnant woman (6 weeks to go) in the hospital because she was badly battered. Pictures were taken and filed. We had to wait till the baby was born before we knew what kind of legal action would be taken against this slime of a "man". The baby could have been harmed by his brutal attack. Her eyes were black and blue and swollen. A BEAUTIFUL looking girl. She and I would get together at the office and view movies (little situational stories) of a variety of interractions between couples. It was a real learning tool because she was unaware. After time flew by, she was thinking of having her little girl get to know her father and perhaps return to him. As we were sitting in my office, I took out her file and showed her the pictures that were taken when she was in the hospital. I read the things that she stated at the time of her filing a restraining order and she relived the moment and decided to forget him. No one can tell a woman what to do (or a man) but coming to their own conclusion with guidance and education is all we can do to help people. I really wanted to share my story. Having this venue resurface, gave the opportunity.