Sometimes...

[ColdNoMore]

Karma actually exists.


Lions reportedly devour suspected poacher in South Africa (https://www.yahoo.com/gma/lions-reportedly-devour-suspected-poacher-south-africa-213707127--abc-news-topstories.html)


Lions reportedly devour suspected poacher in South Africa:

South African police are trying to identify a suspected poacher who was reportedly killed and partially devoured by lions in a private game reserve near the Kruger National Park.

The man’s mauled remains, including his head, were reportedly found today alongside a hunting rifle and ammunition.

[Sandtrap328]

The hunter was dressed wrong for lion hunting. He should have been wearing a clown costume. Lions leave them alone because they "taste funny".

[graciegirl]

This is a very unusual conversation.

I turn the channel when animals eat other animals. I know it happens, but it makes me sad. An animal killing a human, no matter what he did, is not something I could celebrate.

I think this may be an estrogen vs. testosterone thing.

[Taltarzac725]

The hunter was dressed wrong for lion hunting. He should have been wearing a clown costume. Lions leave them alone because they "taste funny".

That is a funny remark but a bite from a lion might be rather fatal even if that morsel tastes funny.

[manaboutown]

Poaching in game preserves in Africa is all too common. I am glad the lions got him.

[Chi-Town]

The Lion Sleeps Tonight (on a full stomach ).

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[Mrs. Robinson]

Poaching in game preserves in Africa is all too common. I am glad the lions got him.

Ditto!
I agree with you 100% and will never understand how someone can call this a sport.

Is there anyone out there on the TOTV site that knows about the "canned hunt" location the Morse's have in Ocala or any details regarding it???
Sadly (very sadly) it does exist!

In my estimation, this is as bad or worse than the lions mauling that illegal hunter.

[Tom C]

The hunter was dressed wrong for lion hunting. He should have been wearing a clown costume. Lions leave them alone because they "taste funny".


I'd be lion if I said this didn't make me grin ... tastes funny. HA!:a20:

[Kenswing]

The lions had every right to defend themselves..

[Abby10]

The lions had every right to defend themselves..

I was leaning toward agreeing with Gracie and then you had to come on here and make sense of all this.

[graciegirl]

Ditto!
I agree with you 100% and will never understand how someone can call this a sport.

]Is there anyone out there on the TOTV site that knows about the "canned hunt" location the Morse's have in Ocala or any details regarding it???
Sadly (very sadly) it does exist![/COLOR]

In my estimation, this is as bad or worse than the lions mauling that illegal hunter.

This thread is really about poaching.

Hunting is a legal activity open to the public in Florida. There are those who have had hunters in their family. I don't hunt and I don't shoot but others do.


Game hunting area near ocala - Bing (https://www.bing.com/search?q=Game%20hunting%20area%20near%20ocala&qs=n&form=QBRE&sp=-1&pq=game%20hunting%20area%20near%20ocala&sc=0-28&sk=&cvid=26F86C0D1EC54004876322E922C3B8F5)

[Abby10]

This is a very unusual conversation.

I turn the channel when animals eat other animals. I know it happens, but it makes me sad. An animal killing a human, no matter what he did, is not something I could celebrate.

I think this may be an estrogen vs. testosterone thing.

I wanted to go back to this line because I couldn't agree more. The risk is evident that when one engages with wild animals, bad things can happen. And as Kenswing commented, the lions in this instance certainly had the right to defend themselves. But I too have difficulty with celebrating the death of a human. I would have felt more celebratory if the poacher had been caught for his illegal activity and had to pay the penalty. But as Gracie said this could be a man/woman thing and just one of the many ways that our viewpoints differ.

On the other hand, hunting is a completely different subject altogether.

[CFrance]

This thread is really about poaching.

Hunting is a legal activity open to the public in Florida. There are those who have had hunters in their family. I don't hunt and I don't shoot but others do.


Game hunting area near ocala - Bing (https://www.bing.com/search?q=Game%20hunting%20area%20near%20ocala&qs=n&form=QBRE&sp=-1&pq=game%20hunting%20area%20near%20ocala&sc=0-28&sk=&cvid=26F86C0D1EC54004876322E922C3B8F5)
Sequestering animals so the human has a better chance of killing them is not hunting. Not everything that is legal is ethical.

(PS: I know nothing about any canned hunting facility owned by the Morses. I'm commenting on the practice of sequestering animals for the practice of killing them, no matter who is doing it.)

[GoodLife]

Sequestering animals so the human has a better chance of killing them is not hunting. Not everything that is legal is ethical.

(PS: I know nothing about any canned hunting facility owned by the Morses. I'm commenting on the practice of sequestering animals for the practice of killing them, no matter who is doing it.)

Had a hamburger, steak, farmed salmon, shrimp, chicken breast lately? They were all sequestered animals.

No, it's not "different" Killing a sequestered cow with an air powered bolt to the brain while it is held immobile so you can enjoy your filet mignon is no different from raising Bambi on a hunt farm and shooting him with a scoped rifle.

[GoodLife]

Karma actually exists.


Lions reportedly devour suspected poacher in South Africa (https://www.yahoo.com/gma/lions-reportedly-devour-suspected-poacher-south-africa-213707127--abc-news-topstories.html)

“It seems the victim was poaching in the game park when he was attacked and killed by lions. They ate his body, nearly all of it, and just left his head and some remains,” Limpopo police spokesman Moatshe Ngoepe told AFP.

Police also found a hunting rifle close to the body and are trying to identify the victim


So they found a guy eaten by lions, and he had a rifle. Lots of people carry rifles in Africa, no evidence that he was a poacher yet, no skins, paws, claws etc found. So you are willing to convict based only on the circumstancial evidence that he had a rifle?

Hate to have you on my jury.

[CFrance]

Had a hamburger, steak, farmed salmon, shrimp, chicken breast lately? They were all sequestered animals.

No, it's not "different" Killing a sequestered cow with an air powered bolt to the brain while it is held immobile so you can enjoy your filet mignon is no different from raising Bambi on a hunt farm and shooting him with a scoped rifle.
I don't eat ANY of those things, so yeah, I stand by my statement.

[GoodLife]

I don't eat ANY of those things, so yeah, I stand by my statement.

So you are a total Vegan, no use of any animal derived products in your lifestyle? It's basically impossible but please explain.

[CFrance]

My statement was that I don't condone sequestering animals for the sport of shooting them. Does anyone eat a lion who is confined so that they go out and kill them to feel macho? Don't answer that... I don't really care. Raising animals for food and killing them for sport are too entirely different things.

[GoodLife]

My statement was that I don't condone sequestering animals for the sport of shooting them. Does anyone eat a lion who is confined so that they go out and kill them to feel macho? Don't answer that... I don't really care. Raising animals for food and killing them for sport are too entirely different things.


Your statement was "you don't eat any of those things" ie: farm raised meats and fish. So which is it? All your farm raised meats and fish are sequestered and fed until killed and packaged nicely at Publix. To the animal, whether its a cow sequestered and shot thru the brain with an air powered bolt, or a deer, raised on a hunt farm and shot with a scoped rifle, the end result is the same.
Neither are what one would call a "sporting kill", but I'd wager the deer enjoys a better life than the cow.

They both die and then are eaten

[CFrance]

Your statement was "you don't eat any of those things" ie: farm raised meats and fish. So which is it? All your farm raised meats and fish are sequestered and fed until killed and packaged nicely at Publix. To the animal, whether its a cow sequestered and shot thru the brain with an air powered bolt, or a deer, raised on a hunt farm and shot with a scoped rifle, the end result is the same.
Neither are what one would call a "sporting kill", but I'd wager the deer enjoys a better life than the cow.

They both die and then are eaten
My original statement stands.

[GoodLife]

I will clarify my views by saying that I don't condone poachers that kill and sell animal parts for profit, although there are poachers who kill animals illegally in order to eat and survive (they don't have a publix nearby) I also do not condone trophy hunters that kill only for ego and to mount the heads in their living room.

But hunters who kill deer etc for the meat to feed their family, and shoppers buying neatly shrink wrapped packages at their local market, there is no difference between the two. The hunter on a hunting farm, where animals are raised to be killed, is no different from average shopper.

[GoodLife]

My original statement stands.

Which one?

[autumnspring]

This is a very unusual conversation.

I turn the channel when animals eat other animals. I know it happens, but it makes me sad. An animal killing a human, no matter what he did, is not something I could celebrate.

I think this may be an estrogen vs. testosterone thing.


The only reason mankind survived is because they taste bad.

[GoodLife]

The only reason mankind survived is because they taste bad.

Wrong. We survived because we were smarter and had superior survival skills. Think the lions ate this guy because he tasted bad?

[autumnspring]

Wrong. We survived because we were smarter and had superior survival skills. Think the lions ate this guy because he tasted bad?

some of these posters think an animal attacks THINKING about vengeance. Man is one of the only animals, other than monkeys that has any concept of vengeance. An animal, or most animals will by instinct attack to protect it's young or perhaps it's territory.

[GoodLife]

some of these posters think an animal attacks THINKING about vengeance. Man is one of the only animals, other than monkeys that has any concept of vengeance. An animal, or most animals will by instinct attack to protect it's young or perhaps it's territory.

So now we are switching from humans surviving because they taste bad to "its all about the vengeance"

If a human, or a bear, attacks to protect their young, what is their main motivation? Here is a clue.

Humans are animals too.

[graciegirl]

My original statement stands.

It is very hard to think like others on certain issues. I have never understood boxing, or wrestling on any level. Again I think it goes back to hunter/gatherer, estrogen/testosterone thing.

I am not a vegan, and have tried to teach my kids and grandkids not be vegans, simply because I believe it is not healthy for carnivores. But all things considered, there are other personality issues that we were either born with or adopted in each our own very different lives. In this it is not a right or wrong issue, good or bad, but simply what our inner self feels comfortable with.