Golf Cart Reckless Driving in my Village

[salgent]

I am starting a Golf Cart Awareness program. I don't know if it will help perhaps will slow down carts. Why?

Approximately 1.5 years ago a reckless speeding neighbor who never gave me a chance to put my seat belt on just hit the gas on a left hand turn starting out and with no forewarning I was ejected from the cart. He had no golf cart insurance and I have sustained injuries. In my Village he has been seen and witnessed speeding around the neighborhood and on Valentines day while our friends were stopped at our corner stop sign he hit the turn so fast (His wife has was the passenger with an obvious medical affliction) he nearly hit my friends car cutting the corner at high speed.
He seems to enjoy it when I express concern to him. Some people "Get off" on that and YES they live here.

This kindergarten childish behavior has to stop, it is just not him but many other "speeding cowboys" who are most likely struggling with their own security issues and feel the need to create drama.

I have been to the Property Owners Association and Sumter County Sheriff office and for now can only turn this into a positive by heading up a Golf Cart Awareness program with support from them.

If anyone is interested please comment with contact information.

Thanks for reading my post,

[the square]

Why not try to get his address and start an e-mail campaign informing him his conduct will no longer be condoned. Keep informing Neighborhood Watch when he drives recklessly with a description of his cart and ask them the best way to proceed..

[Sandtrap328]

You were the passenger in his cart when you were thrown out of his cart. I would think his homeowners policy would pay for your injuries or Attorney Dan Newlin would take the case and you could have owned most of the neighbor's assets. I presume you are no longer friends with the neighbor.

Just keep calling the sheriff whenever you witness an unsafe act by this person. Another possibility is to get a GoPro camera to give photographic proof to the sheriff.

[DonH57]

I am starting a Golf Cart Awareness program. I don't know if it will help perhaps will slow down carts. Why?

Approximately 1.5 years ago a reckless speeding neighbor who never gave me a chance to put my seat belt on just hit the gas on a left hand turn starting out and with no forewarning I was ejected from the cart. He had no golf cart insurance and I have sustained injuries. In my Village he has been seen and witnessed speeding around the neighborhood and on Valentines day while our friends were stopped at our corner stop sign he hit the turn so fast (His wife has was the passenger with an obvious medical affliction) he nearly hit my friends car cutting the corner at high speed.
He seems to enjoy it when I express concern to him. Some people "Get off" on that and YES they live here.

This kindergarten childish behavior has to stop, it is just not him but many other "speeding cowboys" who are most likely struggling with their own security issues and feel the need to create drama.

I have been to the Property Owners Association and Sumter County Sheriff office and for now can only turn this into a positive by heading up a Golf Cart Awareness program with support from them.

If anyone is interested please comment with contact information.

Thanks for reading my post,

Wish you the best of luck in your endeavors of trying to change this thick skulled individual's driving behavior but I doubt it. Some people just Don't understand golf carts are not toys and at some point will injure or possibly kill others or themselves.

[Rango]

The Villages offers a golf cart safety class.

[spring_chicken]

"Awareness" won't do a thing for the people who "get off on it".
You won't get much interest on this board because nobody here ever speeds or drives carelessly.
I only speed when I'm drunk or riding around throwing dog poop on yards.

[JimD215]

Why not a campaign to stop drivers from almost hitting golf carts because they cut right turns in the golf cart lane.

[SFSkol]

I am curious to know how you were able to ascertain that he was speeding? As far as I have seen golf carts do not have speedometers? Or is there some other speed indicator?

[dave042]

You were the passenger in his cart when you were thrown out of his cart. I would think his homeowners policy would pay for your injuries or Attorney Dan Newlin would take the case and you could have owned most of the neighbor's assets. I presume you are no longer friends with the neighbor.

Just keep calling the sheriff whenever you witness an unsafe act by this person. Another possibility is to get a GoPro camera to give photographic proof to the sheriff.

I concur with Sandtrap. Raise his insurance premiums.

Why not take pictures and post them on here? Call him out and put him on notice with the community. Sounds like he's about to cause a serious accident.

Just like school students, you need to observe and report.

[CWGUY]

I am curious to know how you were able to ascertain that he was speeding? As far as I have seen golf carts do not have speedometers? Or is there some other speed indicator?

:ohdear: My last 3 carts have had speedometers. 1st one didn't, but that was '04.

[Abby10]

I am starting a Golf Cart Awareness program. I don't know if it will help perhaps will slow down carts. Why?

Approximately 1.5 years ago a reckless speeding neighbor who never gave me a chance to put my seat belt on just hit the gas on a left hand turn starting out and with no forewarning I was ejected from the cart. He had no golf cart insurance and I have sustained injuries. In my Village he has been seen and witnessed speeding around the neighborhood and on Valentines day while our friends were stopped at our corner stop sign he hit the turn so fast (His wife has was the passenger with an obvious medical affliction) he nearly hit my friends car cutting the corner at high speed.
He seems to enjoy it when I express concern to him. Some people "Get off" on that and YES they live here.

This kindergarten childish behavior has to stop, it is just not him but many other "speeding cowboys" who are most likely struggling with their own security issues and feel the need to create drama.

I have been to the Property Owners Association and Sumter County Sheriff office and for now can only turn this into a positive by heading up a Golf Cart Awareness program with support from them.

If anyone is interested please comment with contact information.

Thanks for reading my post,

Thank you for your post, salgent. I believe I have read about your story and am sorry for all you have been through. I'm sure that you are very concerned and just want to help others so that something worse doesn't happen. I wonder if you could elaborate a little more about what and how this awareness program will work. In what ways will the POA and Sheriff's office support it and what is expected from those who would participate in it? Unfortunately, I am not down there enough to help out, but I thought if you would perhaps give more details about how it would work, more people might step up to help.

Again, thank you for your efforts to try to keep our community a safe place for everyone.

[ColdNoMore]

"Awareness" won't do a thing for the people who "get off on it".

You won't get much interest on this board because nobody here ever speeds or drives carelessly.

I only speed when I'm drunk or riding around throwing dog poop on yards.

:1rotfl:


:boom:

[JoMar]

I am starting a Golf Cart Awareness program. I don't know if it will help perhaps will slow down carts. Why?

Approximately 1.5 years ago a reckless speeding neighbor who never gave me a chance to put my seat belt on just hit the gas on a left hand turn starting out and with no forewarning I was ejected from the cart. He had no golf cart insurance and I have sustained injuries. In my Village he has been seen and witnessed speeding around the neighborhood and on Valentines day while our friends were stopped at our corner stop sign he hit the turn so fast (His wife has was the passenger with an obvious medical affliction) he nearly hit my friends car cutting the corner at high speed.
He seems to enjoy it when I express concern to him. Some people "Get off" on that and YES they live here.

This kindergarten childish behavior has to stop, it is just not him but many other "speeding cowboys" who are most likely struggling with their own security issues and feel the need to create drama.

I have been to the Property Owners Association and Sumter County Sheriff office and for now can only turn this into a positive by heading up a Golf Cart Awareness program with support from them.

If anyone is interested please comment with contact information.

Thanks for reading my post,

What Village?

[graciegirl]

If I fell out (or was thrown out) of a neighbors cart I wouldn't start a golf cart awareness group. I might stop riding in golf carts. They are a risk, no sides, even seatbelts could hold you in as you slide sideways into something hurtful.

Riding a bike is a risk. Roller skating is a risk, a friend had a tri-maleor break of his ankle that took him six months to walk again and may never stop swelling at night, all from roller skating.

Again I bring up what is realistic and unrealistic. I imagine if you formed such a group it would be quickly joined by people who are conscientious and law abiding and careful. The scoundrels that drive like crazy people don't think they drive like crazy people.

[784caroline]

After complaints like this, the Sumter county Sheriffs office will set up speed traps in the local neighborhood and also install MPH Digital readouts on the streets. Believe me I have seen this and once the Sheriffs radar is set up and nabs the unsuspecting neighbors the wrath will easily come your way. Dont get me wrong enforcement is good , BUT many will say not necessary in my neighborhood ...especially if the intended culprit is not one of the captured parties.

Good luck!

[aframe]

After complaints like this, the Sumter county Sheriffs office will set up speed traps in the local neighborhood and also install MPH Digital readouts on the streets. Believe me I have seen this and once the Sheriffs radar is set up and nabs the unsuspecting neighbors the wrath will easily come your way. Dont get me wrong enforcement is good , BUT many will say not necessary in my neighborhood ...especially if the intended culprit is not one of the captured parties.

Good luck!

Huh??

[rustyp]

Neighbor wars - a good thing to steer clear of

[EdFNJ]

After complaints like this, the Sumter county Sheriffs office will set up speed traps in the local neighborhood and also install MPH Digital readouts on the streets. Believe me I have seen this and once the Sheriffs radar is set up and nabs the unsuspecting neighbors the wrath will easily come your way. Dont get me wrong enforcement is good , BUT many will say not necessary in my neighborhood ...especially if the intended culprit is not one of the captured parties.



Good luck!



Good idea Except it will also catch people driving safely at 21-22mph which 95% of the carts are capable of.


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[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

I am starting a Golf Cart Awareness program. I don't know if it will help perhaps will slow down carts. Why?

Approximately 1.5 years ago a reckless speeding neighbor who never gave me a chance to put my seat belt on just hit the gas on a left hand turn starting out and with no forewarning I was ejected from the cart. He had no golf cart insurance and I have sustained injuries. In my Village he has been seen and witnessed speeding around the neighborhood and on Valentines day while our friends were stopped at our corner stop sign he hit the turn so fast (His wife has was the passenger with an obvious medical affliction) he nearly hit my friends car cutting the corner at high speed.
He seems to enjoy it when I express concern to him. Some people "Get off" on that and YES they live here.

This kindergarten childish behavior has to stop, it is just not him but many other "speeding cowboys" who are most likely struggling with their own security issues and feel the need to create drama.

I have been to the Property Owners Association and Sumter County Sheriff office and for now can only turn this into a positive by heading up a Golf Cart Awareness program with support from them.

If anyone is interested please comment with contact information.

Thanks for reading my post,


You sustained injuries. Did you sue? It doesn't matter if he has insurance or not. if you sustained injuries and can prove it was his fault, you can get a judgment against him. In fact, it might force him to sell his house solving your problem.

[Wiotte]

I reset my governor to 21.5 mph max last month. My commuting days are over now since the travel time from my garage workshop to home is about a nano second.


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[Marathon Man]

Your heart is in the right place. Unfortunately, those who would be interested in a safety awareness program are probably already safety minded and operating their carts in a responsible manner.

[SouthOfTheBorder]

Your heart is in the right place. Unfortunately, those who would be interested in a safety awareness program are probably already safety minded and operating their carts in a responsible manner.

:agree:
I run several days week, streets and rec trails, and find the majority of cart drivers are quite courteous and respectful. However there are a few that really make me wonder what they are thinking as they make no effort to reduce speed and give space to others. Occasionally they will even force me off the trail.

Don

[EdFNJ]

I reset my governor to 21.5 mph max last month. My commuting days are over now since the travel time from my garage workshop to home is about a nano second.


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As safe as it is That is still illegal. A golf cart is defined in FL as "not being CAPABLE of exceeding 20 mph" so if you get caught in a "Villages Safe Driving Dragnet" you could have expensive legal issues or if you get into an accident your GOLF CART insurance company can refuse to pay. Of course 99% of us have our "carts" set above 20 but most don't think about the insurance issues.




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[Bogie Shooter]

I am starting a Golf Cart Awareness program. I don't know if it will help perhaps will slow down carts. Why?

Approximately 1.5 years ago a reckless speeding neighbor who never gave me a chance to put my seat belt on just hit the gas on a left hand turn starting out and with no forewarning I was ejected from the cart. He had no golf cart insurance and I have sustained injuries. In my Village he has been seen and witnessed speeding around the neighborhood and on Valentines day while our friends were stopped at our corner stop sign he hit the turn so fast (His wife has was the passenger with an obvious medical affliction) he nearly hit my friends car cutting the corner at high speed.
He seems to enjoy it when I express concern to him. Some people "Get off" on that and YES they live here.

This kindergarten childish behavior has to stop, it is just not him but many other "speeding cowboys" who are most likely struggling with their own security issues and feel the need to create drama.

I have been to the Property Owners Association and Sumter County Sheriff office and for now can only turn this into a positive by heading up a Golf Cart Awareness program with support from them.

If anyone is interested please comment with contact information.

Thanks for reading my post,
The VHA holds a monthly golf cart safety meeting, have you contacted them??

[Abby10]

The VHA holds a monthly golf cart safety meeting, have you contacted them??

Actually that's a good idea. If for nothing else, the OP may be a good person to speak at such meetings having first-hand experience of the importance of it and the potential consequences when one is neglectful. Sometimes doing something like that to reach out to others can be a healing experience for the victim.

Of course, you always have good ideas, Bogie. :thumbup:

[OhioBuckeye]

I am starting a Golf Cart Awareness program. I don't know if it will help perhaps will slow down carts. Why?

Approximately 1.5 years ago a reckless speeding neighbor who never gave me a chance to put my seat belt on just hit the gas on a left hand turn starting out and with no forewarning I was ejected from the cart. He had no golf cart insurance and I have sustained injuries. In my Village he has been seen and witnessed speeding around the neighborhood and on Valentines day while our friends were stopped at our corner stop sign he hit the turn so fast (His wife has was the passenger with an obvious medical affliction) he nearly hit my friends car cutting the corner at high speed.
He seems to enjoy it when I express concern to him. Some people "Get off" on that and YES they live here.

This kindergarten childish behavior has to stop, it is just not him but many other "speeding cowboys" who are most likely struggling with their own security issues and feel the need to create drama.

I have been to the Property Owners Association and Sumter County Sheriff office and for now can only turn this into a positive by heading up a Golf Cart Awareness program with support from them.

If anyone is interested please comment with contact information.

Thanks for reading my post,
SALGENT, why didn't you put your seat belt on when you first got into the cart? You make sound like you waited until you got to the first corner before you decided to put your seat belt on. A seat belt is a not brainer to grab onto & push it together. Your story doesn't make a lot of sense because by the time you reach your first turn you should of had it clicked together. Just trying to get your story straight!

[GregP]

Golf cart speeding is a major problem. I was in my CAR on Woodridge Dr. doing 27 and I had a golf cart pass me on the right. WOW you think I was a little surprised.
I cannot understand why the Sheriff's Dept does not have a active campaign on speeding golf carts they would make years pay in one week.

[Abby10]

SALGENT, why didn't you put your seat belt on when you first got into the cart? You make sound like you waited until you got to the first corner before you decided to put your seat belt on. A seat belt is a not brainer to grab onto & push it together. Your story doesn't make a lot of sense because by the time you reach your first turn you should of had it clicked together. Just trying to get your story straight!

His post says that he had no time to do that before the driver hit the gas pedal taking an almost immediate left hand turn where the passenger fell out - at least, that's how I understood it to be. As I said previously, I had read an article some time back where he had described in more detail what had happened, that is if the OP is the same person I read about. In that article, if memory serves correctly, he said the seat belts were tucked back into the back of the seat and not easy to just grab and put on if one hits the pedal immediately upon getting into the cart. I also believe they had not traveled very far before the passenger was ejected. Perhaps the OP will re-post to either validate this or clarify it.

[karostay]

You have great intentions at addressing a growing concern.

How ever how do let an Idiot know their being an Idiot?
Like water on a ducks back it just rolls off

[DonH57]

Golf cart speeding is a major problem. I was in my CAR on Woodridge Dr. doing 27 and I had a golf cart pass me on the right. WOW you think I was a little surprised.
I cannot understand why the Sheriff's Dept does not have a active campaign on speeding golf carts they would make years pay in one week.

LOL. I've had the same done to me, same speed, on Enrique, San Marino, Chapparel, and Carzaras.:undecided:

[bbbbbb]

[QUOTE=salgent;1516014]I am starting a Golf Cart Awareness program. I don't know if it will help perhaps will slow down carts.

YES, YES. Something needs to be done,it is really a shame, Kamikaze Clubs at the Happy Hours. Yes so what can be done? Do we need to wait for a major accident?
I am willing to help and we need some drastic steps to take a stand on this. It would be so nice to be able to have a safe bike ride, a sensible routine that is not mixed with terror?

We ride bikes on the Multi Modal Suicide paths. It is really something to get into and we have found the management does not care, just spend your money folks and all will be well.
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[croughwell]

Why not a campaign to stop drivers from almost hitting golf carts because they cut right turns in the golf cart lane.

How true,
I've been living in TV for.less than 3 months and I've witnessed many instances where cars will make a right turn directly in front of a golf cart that is traveling in the same direction. I've observed many near misses die to drivers who fail to yield the right of way and act as if the golf cart is required to stop so the car c an make a right turn in front of the golf cart.

[DonH57]

[QUOTE=salgent;1516014]I am starting a Golf Cart Awareness program. I don't know if it will help perhaps will slow down carts.

YES, YES. Something needs to be done,it is really a shame, Kamikaze Clubs at the Happy Hours. Yes so what can be done? Do we need to wait for a major accident?
I am willing to help and we need some drastic steps to take a stand on this. It would be so nice to be able to have a safe bike ride, a sensible routine that is not mixed with terror?

We ride bikes on the Multi Modal Suicide paths. It is really something to get into and we have found the management does not care, just spend your money folks and all will be well.
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What are the " Kamikaze Clubs " you refer to ?:confused:

[Suziegrandma]

I think the Villages should include a DVD that goes thru golf cart safety in the closing paperwork. It's amazing how many people do not know the rules or courtesies.

[Chatbrat]

The only thing that will end this, is to end anonymity, which goes with all golf carts- the time for some kind of ID/per cart is long overdue--the hit and run of a bicyclists a few years ago and the recent pictures of gates being destroyed should be reason enough

[NoMoSno]

The only thing that will end this, is to end anonymity, which goes with all golf carts- the time for some kind of ID/per cart is long overdue--the hit and run of a bicyclists a few years ago and the recent pictures of gates being destroyed should be reason enough

I wouldn't expect the sheriff to send out a squad car, every time a citizen calls to report a speeding cart #30069.
Our cars have a tag...does that stop speeders?

[Sunflower33]

I think what you are doing is great. People cars and carts need to slow down

[Henryk]

I am curious to know how you were able to ascertain that he was speeding? As far as I have seen golf carts do not have speedometers? Or is there some other speed indicator?

Of course golf carts have speedometers. At least all I have seen.

[graciegirl]

The only thing that will end this, is to end anonymity, which goes with all golf carts- the time for some kind of ID/per cart is long overdue--the hit and run of a bicyclists a few years ago and the recent pictures of gates being destroyed should be reason enough

More bureaucracy always comes at a cost and I am a fiscal conservative.

[graciegirl]

I don't think any program is going to make people who drink and drive stop. I do think the online news showing pictures of people who are arrested for driving under the influence does help. I don't think any program that addresses speeding will slow down the speeders. Most scofflaws never think it is them and only responsible, ethical, law abiding people will take notice and join such a group. After lives filled with meetings, most people are not interested in meetings.

[Chatbrat]

At the condo we lived in all bicycles had to have ID's--does anyone actually think paying $5-$10 for a live time decal or tag for a golf cart would be cost prohibitive

This way it would be able to recover the cost of damages to the gates--it would probably save all of us some $$ in the long run via reduced amenity fees

[graciegirl]

At the condo we lived in all bicycles had to have ID's--does anyone actually think paying $5-$10 for a live time decal or tag for a golf cart would be cost prohibitive

This way it would be able to recover the cost of damages to the gates--it would probably save all of us some $$ in the long run via reduced amenity fees

That wouldn't work for carts. People would have to have it revalidated when they sold the cart. Someone has to be a record keeper. Some say we have close to 100,000 golf carts here.

[autumnspring]

The Villages offers a golf cart safety class.

Has been posted before. At the Savanna center once a moth there is an opportunity to ask any gold cart driving questions you might have.

As to attending that or taking a course, only safe mided people would attend.

YOU/WE see the same people posting and believing rules do not apply to them. As stated in the original post the person criticized did not have insurance. Probably a safe be that he/she it drive a golf cart on which they have boosted the speed.

If, I recall from some psychology course between by age two a child comprehends there are other people. SADLY far too many people went right to 60-99 without ever learnign the world does not revolve around them.

[autumnspring]

"Awareness" won't do a thing for the people who "get off on it".
You won't get much interest on this board because nobody here ever speeds or drives carelessly.
I only speed when I'm drunk or riding around throwing dog poop on yards.

We only tend to notice the rude self absorbed around us.
NOT ALL THE GOOD DECENT PEOPLE.

[autumnspring]

I am curious to know how you were able to ascertain that he was speeding? As far as I have seen golf carts do not have speedometers? Or is there some other speed indicator?

First of all you can have a speedometer installed in your golf cart. Most of the golf carts you see in tghe villages do not have license plates on then. You do not even need to have a valid drivers license to drive one. BUT, the maximum spped it is allowed to BE SET to go is TWENTY MILES PER HOUS.
My golf cart is set to go 20mph. Thus, if I am passed by a golf cart and it does not have plates on it THEY ARE BREAKING THE LAW-IT IS THAT SIMPLE.

[Arubagirl2000]

I would also like to see a golf cart safety class for teenagers. There is a lot to learn about driving a golf cart around TV besides stepping on the gas and brake.

[Topspinmo]

:agree:
I run several days week, streets and rec trails, and find the majority of cart drivers are quite courteous and respectful. However there are a few that really make me wonder what they are thinking as they make no effort to reduce speed and give space to others. Occasionally they will even force me off the trail.

Don

I don't let them get close enough to force me off the trail, diamond lane, or street. I take evasive action well in advance and get out of the way. My health more important than playing chicken. There are blind spots, glare, some don't pay attention where they are going and thousand more reasons to get out of the way well in advance IMO.

[Topspinmo]

First off what you or I consider unsafe the offender might not? Law enforcement is the only one that can enforce laws and regulations legally. We can complain and report all we want, but it's just speculation. I sure sheriff office gets lots complaints daily. They can set up trap anywhere and in hour catch umpteen law breakers anywhere in the villages.

When I ride in Golf cart I plant my feet and hold on to side rail. You just can't set like you setting at home at kitchen table. You have to brace yourself. when you allow yourself to take the ride you share some of the responsibility for your safety.

[Chatbrat]

What about children whose fee can touch the floor?

[yabbadu]

I know this thread is about Golf Cart Speeds BUT Until people learn how to properly use round abouts (Traffic Circles) are a far greater danger here in the Villages than all of the so called speeding golf carts.:gc::spoken:

[biker1]

I don't believe amenity fees pay for broken gates. I suspect it comes out of the annual CDD maintenance fee paid on your annual taxes. The amenities fee goes up automatically with the CPI. You probably will never see required golf cart IDs without a law being enacted, and the chances of that are slim.

At the condo we lived in all bicycles had to have ID's--does anyone actually think paying $5-$10 for a live time decal or tag for a golf cart would be cost prohibitive

This way it would be able to recover the cost of damages to the gates--it would probably save all of us some $$ in the long run via reduced amenity fees

[Topspinmo]

What about children whose fee can touch the floor?

They shouldn't be riding in golf cart unless they are strapped in and it parents responsible for their safety.

[OhioBuckeye]

His post says that he had no time to do that before the driver hit the gas pedal taking an almost immediate left hand turn where the passenger fell out - at least, that's how I understood it to be. As I said previously, I had read an article some time back where he had described in more detail what had happened, that is if the OP is the same person I read about. In that article, if memory serves correctly, he said the seat belts were tucked back into the back of the seat and not easy to just grab and put on if one hits the pedal immediately upon getting into the cart. I also believe they had not traveled very far before the passenger was ejected. Perhaps the OP will re-post to either validate this or clarify it.
I understood that they didn't have any time to put the seat belt on, so what you're saying they must of been somewhere, like in a parking lot close to a corner where they fell out. But it still doesn't seem like they were going to wear it because like you said the seat belt was tucked in the back of the seat. So if they didn't have it on from where they started from they must not of not worn it to where they got to. Sounds like the driver was driving pretty bad to wait so long to decide to wear it. I don't think this person gave us enough details to make it clear why they didn't have it on before or why they waited so long to decide they better put it on. I can see why we dictated their story 2 different ways. Oh well they learned a hard lesson!