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Doug B
02-22-2018, 07:19 AM
I went to purchase tickets to The Jersey Boys from the web site. At 8:30 I waited for the ticket site to open. When it did and I went to pick a seat I found that more than 80% of the seats were already sold. All in less than 30 sec.. No computer is that fast. About 20 min later I found another site selling tickets to the Sharon, and what did I find ? all the good seats now for sale on that sit at 2 to 3 times the price. Shame on the owners and management of The Sharon. They are scalping their own tickets to up the profit . I will nerver support your theater again and I hope no one will purchase these scalped tickets.:rant-rave:
fw102807
02-22-2018, 07:24 AM
I went to purchase tickets to The Jersey Boys from the web site. At 8:30 I waited for the ticket site to open. When it did and I went to pick a seat I found that more than 80% of the seats were already sold. All in less than 30 sec.. No computer is that fast. About 20 min later I found another site selling tickets to the Sharon, and what did I find ? all the good seats now for sale on that sit at 2 to 3 times the price. Shame on the owners and management of The Sharon. They are scalping their own tickets to up the profit . I will nerver support your theater again and I hope no one will purchase these scalped tickets.:rant-rave:
Actually they are. There are bots that can do this.
"An Internet Bot, also known as web robot, WWW robot or simply bot, is a software application that runs automated tasks (scripts) over the Internet. Typically, bots perform tasks that are both simple and structurally repetitive, at a much higher rate than would be possible for a human alone."
Marathon Man
02-22-2018, 07:39 AM
I went to purchase tickets to The Jersey Boys from the web site. At 8:30 I waited for the ticket site to open. When it did and I went to pick a seat I found that more than 80% of the seats were already sold. All in less than 30 sec.. No computer is that fast. About 20 min later I found another site selling tickets to the Sharon, and what did I find ? all the good seats now for sale on that sit at 2 to 3 times the price. Shame on the owners and management of The Sharon. They are scalping their own tickets to up the profit . I will nerver support your theater again and I hope no one will purchase these scalped tickets.:rant-rave:
It is the owners of the other site that are the scalpers. This is a common thing that happens to popular events that sell tickets on line. Before the days of the internet, they used to pay people to stand in line at the box office windows to buy the tickets that would later sell for elevated prices.
Please don't think that it is The Sharon doing this.
Buckeyephan
02-22-2018, 07:42 AM
So glad you posted this. I went to a website yesterday that I thought was for The Sharon only to find tickets going for $300 each. Couldn't figure out how they could be charging 3x what I paid on Broadway to only see a touring non-Equity tour. Typed in The Sharon and got the actual Villages website. They are typical prices for a touring show. Looking forward to seeing it again.
circletrack
02-22-2018, 07:59 AM
I went to purchase tickets to The Jersey Boys from the web site. At 8:30 I waited for the ticket site to open. When it did and I went to pick a seat I found that more than 80% of the seats were already sold. All in less than 30 sec.. No computer is that fast. About 20 min later I found another site selling tickets to the Sharon, and what did I find ? all the good seats now for sale on that sit at 2 to 3 times the price. Shame on the owners and management of The Sharon. They are scalping their own tickets to up the profit . I will nerver support your theater again and I hope no one will purchase these scalped tickets.:rant-rave:
When the Elton John tickets went on sale for Orlando a few weeks ago the same thing happened. It’s not the venue doing it.
I would say that The Sharon could, for shows they know will be a hit, do box office sales only and still sell out. But they host plenty of other wonderful acts that don’t sell out, even with the online system.
retiredguy123
02-22-2018, 08:16 AM
Actually they are. There are bots that can do this.
"An Internet Bot, also known as web robot, WWW robot or simply bot, is a software application that runs automated tasks (scripts) over the Internet. Typically, bots perform tasks that are both simple and structurally repetitive, at a much higher rate than would be possible for a human alone."
Using "bot" software to purchase tickets is illegal in Florida. But it is legal to resell tickets for a higher than face value price. However, this problem could easily have been prevented by the Sharon. I think they should be ashamed of themselves for letting the situation happen. I hope they will report the bot sales and hopefully have the scalpers prosecuted.
Cisco Kid
02-22-2018, 08:36 AM
So when you move to The Villages you can take off your big boy pants. Because the family is all knowing, all seeing. and takes care of all things. From ticket scalping bots to sinkholes. :a20:
graciegirl
02-22-2018, 09:11 AM
So when you move to The Villages you can take off your big boy pants. Because the family is all knowing, all seeing. and takes care of all thing. From ticket scalping bots to sinkholes. :a20:
I think Cisco means that he doubts very much that the Morse family who own The Sharon are scamming anyone.
I am so tired of Morse slamming posts. It is not a crime to be successful. Many people do it without breaking any laws. They build a better mousetrap.
Gracie. A huge fan of the free market.
collie1228
02-22-2018, 09:18 AM
I don't know if anyone is scamming anyone, but I do know that most legitimate ticket websites have a place where you must insert a code or identify a photo, to prove you are "not a robot". This generally defeats bots - and if the Villages Box Office website doesn't have this protection, or something similar, shame on them.
tophcfa
02-22-2018, 09:38 AM
Just wondering, could the box office limit the number of tickets sold to an individual account per show so that bots hackers can not get enough tix to make it worth their effort? Or can the bots simply create unlimited accounts? Also another thought. Could the box office make tickets available to Villages residents only for the first 48 hours before opening up to the general public, giving residents a window to get the best seats before the bots swoop in and snatch them up?
CFrance
02-22-2018, 10:39 AM
I think the solution is simple (see post #9). As great as the Morse family is, TV has always been lagging a bit on the technology end. It can be quaint, or it can be frustrating.
graciegirl
02-22-2018, 10:41 AM
I think the solution is simple (see post #9). As great as the Morse family is, TV has always been lagging a bit on the technology end. It can be quaint, or it can be frustrating.
You are right. They aren't the latest on internet technology. I'm not either. The word "scam" just flew all over me.
Cisco Kid
02-22-2018, 11:18 AM
If you look online Ticketmaster gets hit hard by the bots also.
So it appears there is no easy fix if you sell online.
CWGUY
02-22-2018, 11:32 AM
Just wondering, could the box office limit the number of tickets sold to an individual account per show so that bots hackers can not get enough tix to make it worth their effort? Or can the bots simply create unlimited accounts? Also another thought. Could the box office make tickets available to Villages residents only for the first 48 hours before opening up to the general public, giving residents a window to get the best seats before the bots swoop in and snatch them up?
:confused: All good questions..... do you really think they will get answered here?
CFrance
02-22-2018, 11:36 AM
You are right. They aren't the latest on internet technology. I'm not either. The word "scam" just flew all over me.
As long as we're good enough to get on the forum!
My Post
02-22-2018, 11:41 AM
I think Cisco means that he doubts very much that the Morse family who own The Sharon are scamming anyone.
I am so tired of Morse slamming posts. It is not a crime to be successful. Many people do it without breaking any laws. They build a better mousetrap.
Gracie. A huge fan of the free market.
Good post.
Also, hasn't it been widely known for years now that the solution to all ticket scamming is simply having to have an ID with you to get in BC its your name on the ticket? If you don't want the ticket anymore, there is an easy way to resell it through the venue for the face price. I think Pearl Jam figured this out sometimes in the 1990's to combat scalping. I'm not saying this idea is offered at all places but it could be so easily, like with airline tickets.
Chatbrat
02-22-2018, 11:55 AM
Let them choke on the tickets-shows are nice, but they are not the holy grail
EdFNJ
02-22-2018, 12:01 PM
Yeah. Experienced the same frustration. Waited for months to get seats to this show and got locked out from any decent seats. Village resident sales (WITH ID) for the first 48 hrs with 4 seat max purchase would help ameliorate the problem.
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SFSkol
02-22-2018, 12:23 PM
I wonder if anyone at the Sharon ticket sales even knows that this is occurring? To them, it would appear that ticket sales are going well. Block seat sales are common in the concert industry. All the possible suggestions above are quite plausible and should be easy to implement. Wonder what kind of arrangement The Villages entertainment has with these third-party brokers.
Does anyone know someone in power at the Sharon?
billethkid
02-22-2018, 12:34 PM
To chastise and relate negative commentary about The Sharon is misplaced ire.
We get all our tickets directly from The Sharon website....never an issue from day one the doors were open.
What I am curious about is why anyone would go to a "third party" on line when the tickets and seat selection are available on The Sharon website.
graciegirl
02-22-2018, 12:35 PM
I wonder if anyone at the Sharon ticket sales even knows that this is occurring? To them, it would appear that ticket sales are going well. Block seat sales are common in the concert industry. All the possible suggestions above are quite plausible and should be easy to implement. Wonder what kind of arrangement The Villages entertainment has with these third-party brokers.
Does anyone know someone in power at the Sharon?
Mark Morse's daughter is in charge of The Sharon's operation. I think it has been carefully thought out. I know this, any theatre venue with live entertainment is struggling to fill seats across this country. Perhaps not on Broadway or here. Even the huge hit show Hamilton on Broadway has seen a huge drop in tickets since last January. No more standing in line and lottery.
It is hard to fill seats in most places and theatre after theatre has closed .
theatre bankrupt - Bing (https://www.bing.com/search?q=theatre+bankrupt&form=EDGHPT&qs=PF&cvid=2c5b1bf9e53c4a2aa8a26e0e490e169d&cc=US&setlang=en-US&elv=AXK1c4IvZoNqPoPnS%21QRLOPnbwDjowBx*55mAbJhVZaX u7RW0mmNtT7kMj61KzbOzHlSW3l2EwqNLnoUtM3ncIenRukYiN 8st4V2Es5sf4Rt&PC=DCTS)
I am of the belief that if there were a shortfall on some presentations that the family would keep it afloat. But all looks like this too is another thriving business.
Sgroemm
02-22-2018, 12:43 PM
I went to purchase tickets to The Jersey Boys from the web site. At 8:30 I waited for the ticket site to open. When it did and I went to pick a seat I found that more than 80% of the seats were already sold. All in less than 30 sec.. No computer is that fast. About 20 min later I found another site selling tickets to the Sharon, and what did I find ? all the good seats now for sale on that sit at 2 to 3 times the price. Shame on the owners and management of The Sharon. They are scalping their own tickets to up the profit . I will nerver support your theater again and I hope no one will purchase these scalped tickets.:rant-rave:
Please call The Sharon and ask to speak to the Box Office Manager. They may not even be aware that this is happening!
SFSkol
02-22-2018, 01:03 PM
Mark Morse's daughter is in charge of The Sharon's operation. I think it has been carefully thought out. I know this, any theatre venue with live entertainment is struggling to fill seats across this country. Perhaps not on Broadway or here. Even the huge hit show Hamilton on Broadway has seen a huge drop in tickets since last January. No more standing in line and lottery.
It is hard to fill seats in most places and theatre after theatre has closed .
theatre bankrupt - Bing (https://www.bing.com/search?q=theatre+bankrupt&form=EDGHPT&qs=PF&cvid=2c5b1bf9e53c4a2aa8a26e0e490e169d&cc=US&setlang=en-US&elv=AXK1c4IvZoNqPoPnS%21QRLOPnbwDjowBx*55mAbJhVZaX u7RW0mmNtT7kMj61KzbOzHlSW3l2EwqNLnoUtM3ncIenRukYiN 8st4V2Es5sf4Rt&PC=DCTS)
I am of the belief that if there were a shortfall on some presentations that the family would keep it afloat. But all looks like this too is another thriving business.
Please look at the articles or searches you reference. Those are old stories! (Something a previous thread of yours noticed.)
(AGAIN) Broadway is doing quite well Broadway Sales for 2016-17 Season Break Record – Variety (http://variety.com/2017/legit/news/broadway-sales-record-2016-17-season-hamilton-dear-evan-hansen-1202441939/)
And how do you know theaters are struggling? I professionally know that the primary theaters in NJ are doing very well.
It is not the Sharon that is reaping any added benefit from these third party sites.
EDIT; My family gave three Blues Brothers tribute benefit shows here in the Villages last week. We entertained about 1,000 villages. Standing ovations every night. Not shabby for a dying industry.
My Post
02-22-2018, 03:45 PM
Even the huge hit show Hamilton on Broadway has seen a huge drop in tickets since last January. No more standing in line and lottery.
In fairness that has something to do with a lot of the original cast moving on, and the people leftover switching to more prominent roles leaving....something to be desired. To put it politely.
Topspinmo
02-22-2018, 04:38 PM
Want to fix this problem. Stop sale of tickets online.
billethkid
02-22-2018, 05:08 PM
Want to fix this problem. Stop sale of tickets online.
Buy from Sharon direct, online or will call....it just does not get any more convenient and secure!
SFSkol
02-22-2018, 05:44 PM
I think people are missing the intent of the OP.
I went to purchase tickets to The Jersey Boys from the web site. At 8:30 I waited for the ticket site to open. When it did and I went to pick a seat I found that more than 80% of the seats were already sold. All in less than 30 sec..
He tried to purchase tickets just after they went on-line, and 80% of the tickets were already sold/unavailable. So, either the Sharon had blocked those seats for some reason or something had already purchased them.
ColdNoMore
02-22-2018, 05:51 PM
I think people are missing the intent of the OP.
He tried to purchase tickets just after they went on-line, and 80% of the tickets were already sold/unavailable. So, either the Sharon had blocked those seats for some reason or something had already purchased them.
While the OP didn't actually specify which "website" they tried to purchase the tickets from...I also interpreted it that they went to the Sharon site.
Hopefully, they will come back and clarify.
CFrance
02-22-2018, 06:51 PM
To chastise and relate negative commentary about The Sharon is misplaced ire.
We get all our tickets directly from The Sharon website....never an issue from day one the doors were open.
What I am curious about is why anyone would go to a "third party" on line when the tickets and seat selection are available on The Sharon website.
Reread the OP's post. He was on the proper web site when ticket sales were supposed to start, only to find that 80% of the seats were already sold. He went to another site to find tickets, only to find that they were grossly overpriced.
It's obvious there is a bot that snapped up most of the tickets in order to resale them at a higher price, as is explained in subsequent posts. Also explained is a way TV can put in place a means to stop that.
I don't think TV is doing this intentionally. I just think they need a better IT person to put these technological stops in place.
Monkei
02-22-2018, 08:54 PM
It is the owners of the other site that are the scalpers. This is a common thing that happens to popular events that sell tickets on line. Before the days of the internet, they used to pay people to stand in line at the box office windows to buy the tickets that would later sell for elevated prices.
Please don't think that it is The Sharon doing this.
Maybe not but the Sharon has ways they can stop it from happening.
Kahuna32162
02-22-2018, 08:56 PM
My experience was different from the OP. I was online at exactly 8:30a and got great 2nd row seats. Very happy with the tickets we bought.
Monkei
02-22-2018, 08:57 PM
Buy from Sharon direct, online or will call....it just does not get any more convenient and secure!
??? isn't that what the OP said he did. I know I was #9 in line at the Savannah Center Box Office and the best I could get was halfway up the Mezzanine for 85.00 a piece.
SouthOfTheBorder
02-22-2018, 09:05 PM
Reread the OP's post. He was on the proper web site when ticket sales were supposed to start, only to find that 80% of the seats were already sold. He went to another site to find tickets, only to find that they were grossly overpriced.
It's obvious there is a bot that snapped up most of the tickets in order to resale them at a higher price, as is explained in subsequent posts. Also explained is a way TV can put in place a means to stop that.
I don't think TV is doing this intentionally. I just think they need a better IT person to put these technological stops in place.
The Sharon mgmt has chosen to contract with a third party online ticket sales organization to "sell" tickets for the shows at The Sharon. As most entertaiment venues are now doing.
There are several well known online sites that handle the majority of entertainment ticket sales. They certainly have the technical capability to prevent the "mass" purchasing of event tickets. However it must not be in these online ticket fulfillment sites to take the necessary steps to do so. Just follow the money. Would you rather collect a service fee or resell sold-out tickets at 3+ original price? Why not even do both?
Don
JoMar
02-22-2018, 10:05 PM
??? isn't that what the OP said he did. I know I was #9 in line at the Savannah Center Box Office and the best I could get was halfway up the Mezzanine for 85.00 a piece.
If it's a popular show that will happen more than not. I suspect most of the tickets now are bought online and if popular, could be gone in minutes. The theater holds about 1100 folks. How many residents and non residents must those 1100 come from? The more we grow the more scarce those seats will become. Our strategy has been to start the login process at 2 minutes prior to when they go and sale and keep reloading....we have been pretty successful at getting in when they open. We also have a priority list of the seats we want so don't spend a lot of time evaluating seats. Works for us.
Wing-nut2
02-24-2018, 04:59 PM
No ticket should be sold to the general public without a village ID for 48 hours after the first tickets go on sale.
asianthree
02-24-2018, 05:01 PM
Plenty of ticket for sale third party starting at $410. Each. I could by 10 tickets at a time for that price. I did find 8 tickets on Sharon web for $45 to $85 but none together. Guess they went really fast. For $820. I can find lots to do.
tophcfa
02-24-2018, 05:11 PM
Want to fix this problem. Stop sale of tickets online.
From the prospective of a part time resident that would be a bad idea and make it impossible to get tickets to many shows.
On the Facebook page of The Sharon today.....
CFrance
02-24-2018, 08:08 PM
On the Facebook of The Sharon today.....
Hmm, but... seconds after the tickets went on sale, most of the good seats of them were gone to a third party, at a much higher price... according to the OP. It may be legal, but there's a way to fix this, and TV needs to address it.
I don't buy 100% of TV's explanation.
ColdNoMore
02-24-2018, 08:23 PM
Hmm, but... seconds after the tickets went on sale, most of the good seats of them were gone to a third party, at a much higher price... according to the OP. It may be legal, but there's a way to fix this, and TV needs to address it.
I don't buy 100% of TV's explanation.
Yep, they completely ignored the issue of allowing large numbers of tickets to be purchased by those who bought them purely for resale.
I interpret their response as them basically saying that it's not their fault the tickets are drastically marked up...and there is nothing they can or will do.
champion6
02-24-2018, 08:58 PM
I went to purchase tickets to The Jersey Boys from the web site. At 8:30 I waited for the ticket site to open. When it did and I went to pick a seat I found that more than 80% of the seats were already sold. All in less than 30 sec.. No computer is that fast. About 20 min later I found another site selling tickets to the Sharon, and what did I find ? all the good seats now for sale on that sit at 2 to 3 times the price. Shame on the owners and management of The Sharon. They are scalping their own tickets to up the profit . I will nerver support your theater again and I hope no one will purchase these scalped tickets.:rant-rave:
My experience was different from the OP. I was online at exactly 8:30a and got great 2nd row seats. Very happy with the tickets we bought.After all these posts, can anyone explain why two users of the same website at the same time had completely different results?
EdFNJ
02-24-2018, 09:52 PM
On the Facebook page of The Sharon today.....
Their FB post doesn't address the issue we are discussing here. They are just defending the WAY they sell them not WHY they disappeared in minutes. No one says they are in cohoots with 3rd party buyers just that Villages residents don't get first dibs which IMO we should.
Chi-Town
02-24-2018, 09:52 PM
After all these posts, can anyone explain why two users of the same website at the same time had completely different results?I've been on at the beginning of Paul Anka and Tony Bennett. You can't dilly dally if your first choice fails, and it may help to have a high speed connection. Got the seating area I wanted both times. Popular events (think The Jersey Boys) have been promoted and demand is high.
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EdFNJ
02-24-2018, 09:57 PM
After all these posts, can anyone explain why two users of the same website at the same time had completely different results?
Probably because the 8:30 guy got lucky and if he had logged in at 8:32 he'd have had nothing.
or
maybe he's a Russian bot trying to cause dissension:spoken: :D
JGVillages
02-24-2018, 10:18 PM
Think about The Villages golf tee time system. You must be a Village Resident to place an online request for a tee time, up to a week in advance. Three days prior to your requested play date the tee time and course is assigned. Once those times are assigned then the unassigned open times become available for any resident. A modified version of this could work for The Sharon, possibly for known certain high attendance shows only. For example RESIDENTS ONLY could place an online request (max 6 to 8 per request), for the ticket price they prefer, the day the tickets would normally go on sale. Three days later these requests would be assigned based on the time the request was made. After the three day ticket requests are assigned then remaining tickets could go on sale to the general public. Yes in this case you could not pick your specific seats, but at least you would get a seat at face value, and RESIDENTS would get first dibs. Possibly this idea could be tweaked to work in a more efficient and equitable manner so let the conversation start here.
OCsun
02-25-2018, 09:27 AM
I am happy to report I was able to grab 4 great seats to see Jersey Boys on Saturday April 14 at 2:00 at the Sharon. I have to say I have never seen seats go so fast! The box office opened at 8:30 and I completed my purchase at 8:35.
Since I have frequently purchased seats for popular shows, I became curious regarding what I was seeing and immediately searched the other two dates to see if they were as popular as the matinee. Both the Friday and Saturday night shows were well on there way to being sold out. That would have been within the first 10 - 15 minutes of the box office opening. The thing I noticed as I was purchasing my tickets was that large groups of seats were disappearing, rather then two, four or six at a time. I was really glad I had selected the matinee because I seriously doubt I would have gotten such good seats at either of the evening events.
I know very little about online ticket scalpers other than my daughter has has to pay ridiculous prices for my granddaughter to see performances, due to tickets being purchased by brokers with the first few minutes of a sales offering.
Since the Sharon is such a big part of our Villages lifestyle I would love to see some sort of process be developed which would allow residents to have purchase priority for popular shows. Perhaps a first day sale which would require signing in using our Villages ID might help Villages get first dibs. Just a thought!
Chi-Town
02-25-2018, 10:35 AM
If you have a neighborhood group who wants to go to a show one person from that group purchases the tickets to keep the seating together. That could be why groups of seats disappear at a time. And that person chosen to be the seat purchaser is usually the most diligent of the group.
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New Englander
02-25-2018, 10:43 AM
Reread the OP's post. He was on the proper web site when ticket sales were supposed to start, only to find that 80% of the seats were already sold. He went to another site to find tickets, only to find that they were grossly overpriced.
It's obvious there is a bot that snapped up most of the tickets in order to resale them at a higher price, as is explained in subsequent posts. Also explained is a way TV can put in place a means to stop that.
I don't think TV is doing this intentionally. I just think they need a better IT person to put these technological stops in place.
:agree:
refeik
02-25-2018, 01:40 PM
No ticket should be sold to the general public without a village ID for 48 hours after the first tickets go on sale.
This is the simple answer !!
JoMar
02-25-2018, 02:53 PM
This is the simple answer !!
I don't think the Sharon (or even Savannah) have ever been a resident only venue. They are doing their part, getting a nice variety of acts at both places. They bid for these acts on a National stage and have a break even point on seats that need to be sold. I wouldn't depend on the resident base to make my numbers, and don't think they should either. There are over 100K people in and around TV and it seats 1100, first come first served as it is in all venues in this country unless you purchase a yearly early advisory subscription.....which might be an option. FYI, check the Orange Blossom Opry, they will sometimes have the same acts as The Sharon and Savannah but do the same thing, first come first served.
Paulettet
02-26-2018, 06:48 AM
I went to purchase tickets to The Jersey Boys from the web site. At 8:30 I waited for the ticket site to open. When it did and I went to pick a seat I found that more than 80% of the seats were already sold. All in less than 30 sec.. No computer is that fast. About 20 min later I found another site selling tickets to the Sharon, and what did I find ? all the good seats now for sale on that sit at 2 to 3 times the price. Shame on the owners and management of The Sharon. They are scalping their own tickets to up the profit . I will nerver support your theater again and I hope no one will purchase these scalped tickets.:rant-rave:
The same thing happened with tickets to Tony Bennett.
trichard
02-26-2018, 08:47 AM
Why hasn’t the Daily Sun reported on this?
NoMoSno
02-26-2018, 08:52 AM
If no one bought the ridiculously overpriced scalper tickets, the scalpers would go away.
CWGUY
02-26-2018, 08:59 AM
Why hasn’t the Daily Sun reported on this?
chilout They have. Why didn't you read it? :read:
BSFentz
02-26-2018, 09:00 AM
That is a great idea! If the tickets were available to residents first, we could eliminate many scalpers purchase.
graciegirl
02-26-2018, 09:19 AM
That is a great idea! If the tickets were available to residents first, we could eliminate many scalpers purchase.
Read what Jo Mar wrote above.
bilcon
02-26-2018, 09:25 AM
I agree with tophcfa. Offer tickets to residents only on the first day of sales and in person only. We got 6 tickets at 9AM at the Spanish Springs office for $80 each, but mezzanine were the best we could get. We were lucky. They are now over $400 each on the internet.
EdFNJ
02-26-2018, 12:46 PM
I don't think the Sharon (or even Savannah) have ever been a resident only venue. They are doing their part, getting a nice variety of acts at both places. They bid for these acts on a National stage and have a break even point on seats that need to be sold. I wouldn't depend on the resident base to make my numbers, and don't think they should either. There are over 100K people in and around TV and it seats 1100, first come first served as it is in all venues in this country unless you purchase a yearly early advisory subscription.....which might be an option. FYI, check the Orange Blossom Opry, they will sometimes have the same acts as The Sharon and Savannah but do the same thing, first come first served.
No one has claimed they should be "resident only" however Allowing resident only purchases for the first 48 hours certainly wouldn't stop outsiders from buying after that period passes. Jersey Boys still would have sold out as would any of the major attractions. If they didn't sell out under those rules they wouldnt have sold out anyway.
As an example American Express offers "advanced purchase" for card holders for many major shows in NYC and other major cities a couple days before they go public. Villages Entertainment could do the same. You still might not get seats but at least you'd beat out the pros and have a fighting chance.
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Harry Gilbert
02-26-2018, 02:07 PM
I agree with tophcfa. Offer tickets to residents only on the first day of sales and in person only. We got 6 tickets at 9AM at the Spanish Springs office for $80 each, but mezzanine were the best we could get. We were lucky. They are now over $400 each on the internet.
So instead of anonymous scalpers buying the tickets and reselling, Residents could take over the resale market? It would be a nice source of side income.
joldnol
02-26-2018, 02:44 PM
I think Cisco means that he doubts very much that the Morse family who own The Sharon are scamming anyone.
I am so tired of Morse slamming posts. It is not a crime to be successful. Many people do it without breaking any laws. They build a better mousetrap.
Gracie. A huge fan of the free market.
They could put a stop to bots buying blocks if they cared to do so. It’s not difficult so they do share blame.
EdFNJ
02-26-2018, 04:17 PM
So instead of anonymous scalpers buying the tickets and reselling, Residents could take over the resale market? It would be a nice source of side income.
LOL. You are kidding right? Frankly if I had a choice I'd prefer OUR residents scalping than outsiders [emoji3] but even if that were the case (and somehow I wouldn't expect that) if all the residents purchases were limited to 4 tickets for the first 48 hours it would keep it to a minimum and greatly slow down the "3 minute sellout.".
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Harry Gilbert
02-26-2018, 04:36 PM
LOL. You are kidding right? Frankly if I had a choice I'd prefer OUR residents scalping than outsiders [emoji3] but even if that were the case (and somehow I wouldn't expect that) if all the residents purchases were limited to 4 tickets for the first 48 hours it would keep it to a minimum and greatly slow down the "3 minute sellout.".
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It was a bit tongue in cheek. But I have no doubt that out of 100K+ residents there wouldn't be a few enterprising souls in the bunch.
thelegges
02-26-2018, 04:49 PM
Let’s see 100 tickets @ $45 each $4,500. Plus points on your card. Sell at $400 each only need to sell 11 to break even. Hope who ever is selling them from$400 to $500 gets stuck with them. Can’t think of any venue worth that much money
capecoralbill
02-26-2018, 04:50 PM
No ticket should be sold to the general public without a village ID for 48 hours after the first tickets go on sale.
Perfect and simple. Require the customer's name on the ticket and Village ID card are the same, then after some time release them to the public.
Marathon Man
02-26-2018, 04:51 PM
If no one bought the ridiculously overpriced scalper tickets, the scalpers would go away.
Agreed. It happens because the scalpers know that they will sell the tickets.
junction29
02-26-2018, 06:25 PM
Agreed. It happens because the scalpers know that they will sell the tickets.
Hi all,
The solution is very simple, it just requires a bit of self disapline and just requires that none of us buy tickets at more than the asking price - the scammers would soon get fed up of having a load of tickets on their hands that they cannot sell and/or make a profit on!!!!!
Monkei
02-28-2018, 11:25 AM
I would have to question the management of The Sharon if they are only selling tickets to the Jersey Boys for 100.00 and someone is selling them for 300.00 by simply buying them from them. Why would they lose 200.00 per ticket in sales? Obviously this is not a "we don't want to charge residents so much" as they lose that argument immediately when they sell them to non residents to re-sell at a much higher rate.
Monkei
02-28-2018, 11:27 AM
Hi all,
The solution is very simple, it just requires a bit of self disapline and just requires that none of us buy tickets at more than the asking price - the scammers would soon get fed up of having a load of tickets on their hands that they cannot sell and/or make a profit on!!!!!
that only works if you are including ALL buyers and not just residents. It would be very interesting to see who the buyers were for the really good tickets. I bet they are not residents and are from Orlando, Ocala, many other locales in Florida.
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