Yard ornaments and junk

[goodtimesintv]

How can it be that yard ornaments are wisely not allowed, but yet an owner can have an entire yard chock full of about 50 different, scroungy cactus plants that look like a big junkyard??

Why are neighbors and guests made to look at such an eyesore, right on the street and sidewalk? It’s a community embarrassment!

[coffeebean]

How can it be that yard ornaments are wisely not allowed, but yet an owner can have an entire yard chock full of about 50 different, scroungy cactus plants that look like a big junkyard??

Why are neighbors and guests made to look at such an eyesore, right on the street and sidewalk? It’s a community embarrassment!

I know exactly the property you are talking about. It is a backyard which faces a busy street. This backyard has had these cactus plants for a few years.

[goodtimesintv]

I know exactly the property you are talking about. It is a backyard which faces a busy street. This backyard has had these cactus plants for a few years.

So then...either:
a) nobody has complained to ARC; or
B) this is acceptable after complaints were made?

[BobnBev]

I'll vote for "B". Looks kinda like the Southwest, kinda neat.:coolsmiley:

[golf2140]

The one on Odel. It looks like crap.

[N44125]

I think it’s exempt since it’s the home’s backyard. I agree, looks terrible.

[stan the man]

I love the look, reminds me of Arizona

[goodtimesintv]

I love the look, reminds me of Arizona

So....Arizona looks like an eyesore and a junkyard, and that’s how TV should be also?!?

[JSR22]

I live near the house with the cactus and I like it. I think all the different cactus are interesting and I like the containers.

[Cedwards38]

"Eyesore" is in the eye of the beholder. I don't think you can complain about cactus. You might complain if they are not being kept well.

[Wiotte]

I’m cracking up [emoji23]


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[goodtimesintv]

"Eyesore" is in the eye of the beholder. I don't think you can complain about cactus. You might complain if they are not being kept well.

It’s not that they are cacti. It’s the cluttered messiness and brownness of so many.

[Retiring]

I’ve had a home in Scottsdale since 2003. The last thing my neighbors or I would install is a cactus. They are a scorpion, tarantula and insect hotel. Cactus is what builders put in for the snowbirds that don’t know any better. Like putting a palm tree up against the house. A Floridian knows that’s a rat ladder, a snowbird learns that the hard way.

[coffeebean]

I'll vote for "B". Looks kinda like the Southwest, kinda neat.:coolsmiley:

Personally, I don't like it but I never complained to anyone. Just observed the landscape and think it is very out of place here in Florida.

[ColdNoMore]

"Eyesore" is in the eye of the beholder. I don't think you can complain about cactus. You might complain if they are not being kept well.

Definitely a prickly subject. :D

[Jdmiata]

I like it. A little variety.

[kcrazorbackfan]

I pass it quite often whenever I take another route to the Colony area. IMHO, I like the looks of it.

Looks better than some of the crap-brown lawns that people seem to be content with.

[manaboutown]

This is a thorny issue, perhaps even prickly, but it seems the subject landscaping is incongruous with adjoining terrain.

[goodtimesintv]

I’ve had a home in Scottsdale since 2003. The last thing my neighbors or I would install is a cactus. They are a scorpion, tarantula and insect hotel. Cactus is what builders put in for the snowbirds that don’t know any better. Like putting a palm tree up against the house. A Floridian knows that’s a rat ladder, a snowbird learns that the hard way.

Thank You.

[ricthemic]

I think the reason the entire yard is covered with the cactus is to be cost saving maintenance free.. Sort of like replacing all the grass with river Rock which I believe that type of house is not allowed to do.

[ricthemic]

And IMO, it does look totally ridiculous

[Topspinmo]

So....Arizona looks like an eyesore and a junkyard, and that’s how TV should be also?!?

I don't think plants are considered lawn ornaments? Plus I don't backyards are as restrictive as front yard. I don't care for cactuses, unless their pipe organs. if you've ever been to SW some castus are impressive. , so each their own. One thing if you don't like it just look the other way.

[salpal]

I agree that it is eyesore and I pass it daily. I have often thought that no burglar would dare to tramp through that mess. I know that above 466 folks can have lawn ornaments. The one that drives me crazy is the giant blue angel on Del Mar and Panama, just before Spanish Springs.

[Chatbrat]

Best one is the Dalmation starring at a hydrant also on Delmar

[Jim 9922]

It is all in the eyes of the beholder. Consider the junk vehicles, rusty gas pumps and "farm equipment", bronze cows, derelict and half swamped boats, "genuine" phony "historical" placards, and artificially faded signs and "advertising" posters strewn around our town squares.

[biker1]

And you paid for all of that stuff. New old stuff is not cheap ;-)

It is all in the eyes of the beholder. Consider the junk vehicles, rusty gas pumps and "farm equipment", bronze cows, derelict and half swamped boats, "genuine" phony "historical" placards, and artificially faded signs and "advertising" posters strewn around our town squares.

[Henryk]

How can it be that yard ornaments are wisely not allowed, but yet an owner can have an entire yard chock full of about 50 different, scroungy cactus plants that look like a big junkyard??

Why are neighbors and guests made to look at such an eyesore, right on the street and sidewalk? It’s a community embarrassment!

Sorry, but I disagree completely. I think it’s quite beautiful with an interesting variety of types of cacti.

[Chi-Town]

How can it be that yard ornaments are wisely not allowed, but yet an owner can have an entire yard chock full of about 50 different, scroungy cactus plants that look like a big junkyard??

Why are neighbors and guests made to look at such an eyesore, right on the street and sidewalk? It’s a community embarrassment!Photo anyone?

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[Marathon Man]

How can it be that yard ornaments are wisely not allowed, but yet an owner can have an entire yard chock full of about 50 different, scroungy cactus plants that look like a big junkyard??

Why are neighbors and guests made to look at such an eyesore, right on the street and sidewalk? It’s a community embarrassment!

Because you can not regulate taste and opinion with rules.

[JoMar]

It is all in the eyes of the beholder. Consider the junk vehicles, rusty gas pumps and "farm equipment", bronze cows, derelict and half swamped boats, "genuine" phony "historical" placards, and artificially faded signs and "advertising" posters strewn around our town squares.

You consider those eyesores? Wow

[autumnspring]

Do you people really want to start this?

You object to his/her/it's cactus THAT IS ON THEIR PROPERTY. Perhaps, they object to your dog, your parties,
your golf cart, your trash bags, your swimming pool, your motocycle, or whatever.

THINK.

[eweissenbach]

Do you people really want to start this?

You object to his/her/it's cactus THAT IS ON THEIR PROPERTY. Perhaps, they object to your dog, your parties,
your golf cart, your trash bags, your swimming pool, your motocycle, or whatever.

THINK.

Live and let live is a philosophy that has served me well for over seventy years.

[fw102807]

Live and let live is a philosophy that has served me well for over seventy years.

Wish there were more like you

[Madelaine Amee]

Wish there were more like you

Oh, there are a lot of us that mind our business and don't interfere with our neighbors!

[Ecuadog]

Live and let live is a philosophy that has served me well for over seventy years.

Wish there were more like you

Oh, there are a lot of us that mind our business and don't interfere with our neighbors!

Bingo.

[fw102807]

Oh, there are a lot of us that mind our business and don't interfere with our neighbors!

Luckily in my neighborhood people are nice but I have heard many stories of people who were not.

[Jim 9922]

You consider those eyesores? Wow
Not eyesores. My point is the beauty is personal opinion. Some people like fire hydrant dogs, or pink flamingos or painted driveways with Mickey Mouse in the center, or cactuses in their yard garden. If it is not too obnoxious, live and let live and find your vision of beauty elsewhere.

[lafoto]

I cant stand folks who haven't looked in the mirror.
You are ugly for saying such things about your neighbor.
So judgmental, so self righteous, such conceded snobs.
Walk in their shoes, why dont you.
live and let live.....rant over

[patfla06]

We are all entitled to our opinion.

[thelegges]

The house few doors down from the cactus yard stayed on the market for awhile compared to 5 other houses in same price range farther down the street. The cactus yard backs up to Odell Circle, most houses were built in 08 and 09 on that street. At the time I am sure it was approved by someone since the percentage of grass is only about 10%.

There are a few houses in that area painted in approved colors mid 2017, but in October 2017 those colors have been removed from the approval color chart.

[CFrance]

I’ve had a home in Scottsdale since 2003. The last thing my neighbors or I would install is a cactus. They are a scorpion, tarantula and insect hotel. Cactus is what builders put in for the snowbirds that don’t know any better. Like putting a palm tree up against the house. A Floridian knows that’s a rat ladder, a snowbird learns that the hard way.

Thank You.
But the topic was how the OP thinks it looks, not if it's an insect draw.

And that's the homeowner's business, as long as deed compliance doesn't disagree.

There's a premier house over in Charlotte whose owners are ripping out their front lawn in favor of pine straw mulch and some kind of clumpy grasses. Looks unattractive to me, but his choice, assuming he has permission.

[joldnol]

Personally, I don't like it but I never complained to anyone. Just observed the landscape and think it is very out of place here in Florida.

Yeah, just like every foreign variety of palms the non-Floridian villagers put in their yard.

[VApeople]

live and let live

No.

In a place like TV with dense housing, we all have the responsibility to follow the rules. If your neighbor does something that you believe violates one of the rules, it is perfectly OK for you to complain to TV management and let them take care of it.

[spring_chicken]

The title is very misleading. Yard ornaments and junk? But the complaint is about cactus plants?
There are probably people who don't like your choice of landscaping or the color of your house. It's pretty ugly of the OP to make such an issue of this.

[CFrance]

The title is very misleading. Yard ornaments and junk? But the complaint is about cactus plants?
There are probably people who don't like your choice of landscaping or the color of your house. It's pretty ugly of the OP to make such an issue of this.
You got that right.:agree:

[Madelaine Amee]

If the "offensive" back yard plantings are still there it would appear that it is legal to have it, and in this case why get your knickers in a twist over something you cannot change and which is none of your business?

[billlaur]

a very quaint serene parcel of land I LOVE IT

[coffeebean]

The title is very misleading. Yard ornaments and junk? But the complaint is about cactus plants?
There are probably people who don't like your choice of landscaping or the color of your house. It's pretty ugly of the OP to make such an issue of this.

I don't think so. Actually, what is pretty ugly is the back yard with all the cactus plants, IMHO.

[coffeebean]

If the "offensive" back yard plantings are still there it would appear that it is legal to have it, and in this case why get your knickers in a twist over something you cannot change and which is none of your business?

I know it may be none of anyone's business what they plant in their yard but my concern is what happens if an eyesore in the neighborhood effects home prices if someone wishes to sell their home? That could cause a problem.

[kcrazorbackfan]

Live and let live is a philosophy that has served me well for over seventy years.

That’s the way it used to be. Now, SOME people decide to make everything that other people do; their business. It’s a different world today.

[kcrazorbackfan]

Do you people really want to start this?

You object to his/her/it's cactus THAT IS ON THEIR PROPERTY. Perhaps, they object to your dog, your parties,
your golf cart, your trash bags, your swimming pool, your motocycle, or whatever.

THINK.

Bravo! Good response!!

[VApeople]

If the "offensive" back yard plantings are still there it would appear that it is legal to have it

Not necessarily.

The back yard plantings may not adhere to TV rules, but nothing was done about them because no one complained.

If any of us are irritated by another person's actions, we all have the right to find out if that person has broken the rules.

[coffeebean]

Still no responses about my concern for property values. Many people, on this thread alone, view the cactus landscape to be an "eyesore" and have voiced their opinions about it.

What can be done if someone is trying to sell their home when an eyesore is visible to their property? I'm not referring only to the cactus landscape but any eyesore in any part of our community. Can something be done if negative feedback from potential buyers to the selling agent includes an eyesore visible to the home up for sale? Does anyone know if something can be done?

[Bogie Shooter]

What is your definition of an "eyesore"? I bet you could get 20 different definitions right here.
That's the purpose of Community Standards/Deed Restrictions.

[graciegirl]

What is your definition of an "eyesore"? I bet you could get 20 different definitions right here.
That's the purpose of Community Standards/Deed Restrictions.

Well said Bogie.

Life seems unbelievably short this morning. I want to tell you publicly Bogie, whose real name I don't know, how much I admire your direct approach to things, even when you disagree with me.

You are a good person, Bogie Shooter.

[JSR22]

What is your definition of an "eyesore"? I bet you could get 20 different definitions right here.
That's the purpose of Community Standards/Deed Restrictions.

My husband and I drove past this house yesterday. I told him about the posts and he shook his head. We both think the backyard looks fine. Many interesting cacti, pretty pots and an attractive bench. I have never heard of a cactus restriction.

[BobnBev]

I know it may be none of anyone's business what they plant in their yard but my concern is what happens if an eyesore in the neighborhood effects home prices if someone wishes to sell their home? That could cause a problem.

The sky is falling.....the sky is falling....geeezzzz:ohdear::ohdear::ohdear:

[Bogie Shooter]

Well said Bogie.

Life seems unbelievably short this morning. I want to tell you publicly Bogie, whose real name I don't know, how much I admire your direct approach to things, even when you disagree with me.

You are a good person, Bogie Shooter.

Aw, shucks...............

[fw102807]

The sky is falling.....the sky is falling....geeezzzz:ohdear::ohdear::ohdear:

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[Challenger]

I also think this yard looks super tacky. That being said, if it meets the requirement of pertinent covenants, laws , and restrictions , I believe the owners have every right to do plantings as they wish. If they violate covenants and other enforceable rules, then sick the trolls on them. JMHO

[Jim 9922]

Still no responses about my concern for property values. Many people, on this thread alone, view the cactus landscape to be an "eyesore" and have voiced their opinions about it.

What can be done if someone is trying to sell their home when an eyesore is visible to their property? I'm not referring only to the cactus landscape but any eyesore in any part of our community. Can something be done if negative feedback from potential buyers to the selling agent includes an eyesore visible to the home up for sale? Does anyone know if something can be done?
Reminds me of a friend who bought into one of those fancy high rise condos on the beach where all the lobbies and halls were controlled, all public grounds were controlled, all party rooms controlled. But then someone hung a holiday door decoration, and a year later 2 cars showed up in the garage each with a political bumper sticker affixed. Individuality and freedom of expression. For Shame!!:clap2:

[Madelaine Amee]

Still no responses about my concern for property values. Many people, on this thread alone, view the cactus landscape to be an "eyesore" and have voiced their opinions about it.

What can be done if someone is trying to sell their home when an eyesore is visible to their property? I'm not referring only to the cactus landscape but any eyesore in any part of our community. Can something be done if negative feedback from potential buyers to the selling agent includes an eyesore visible to the home up for sale? Does anyone know if something can be done?

So this is your idea of an eyesore - this past week a band of gypies arrived at dawn in our quiet little neighborhood and started cutting down the most beautiful oak tree in the neighborhood. The Neighborhood Watch came by and stopped the murder, then, I have been told, TV sent an arborist to look at the murder, he instructed the tree to be cut to a certain point and then left standing. It is now a mere skeleton of what once was a beautiful tree. Now that is a MAJOR eyesore and will be there for eternity!

[Susan Schonfeld]

How can it be that yard ornaments are wisely not allowed, but yet an owner can have an entire yard chock full of about 50 different, scroungy cactus plants that look like a big junkyard??

Why are neighbors and guests made to look at such an eyesore, right on the street and sidewalk? It’s a community embarrassment!

And what about for sale signs in front of houses and clothes drying racks on driveways. People should be considerate of neighbors and adhere to bylaws as the community dosen’t cite people for offenses. It’s up to the neighbors to report unseemingly stuff.

[chenault55]

I think cactus is fine but that yard has serious design flaws that make it just look unkept.

[Topspinmo]

We are all entitled to our opinion.


You've got the entitled part right. :loco:

[Topspinmo]

I think in or golden years we need to keep are eyes on the road and not gocken around nosing in someone's backyard. That would save some of the gate arms and PVC stops sign posts on MMP. I would also recommend keeping your eyes on the road and in your own lane going around roundabouts and maybe use the blinker light once in awhile.:wine: "O" lay off the liquor also. :wine::wine:

[airstreamingypsy]

So this is your idea of an eyesore - this past week a band of gypies arrived at dawn in our quiet little neighborhood and started cutting down the most beautiful oak tree in the neighborhood. The Neighborhood Watch came by and stopped the murder, then, I have been told, TV sent an arborist to look at the murder, he instructed the tree to be cut to a certain point and then left standing. It is now a mere skeleton of what once was a beautiful tree. Now that is a MAJOR eyesore and will be there for eternity!

Why would the gypsies cut down an oak tree? What's in it for them?

[joldnol]

My husband and I drove past this house yesterday. I told him about the posts and he shook his head. We both think the backyard looks fine. Many interesting cacti, pretty pots and an attractive bench. I have never heard of a cactus restriction.

The yard is beautiful. We drove by it today. Some of y'all need a hobby or a life. I see many things people put in their yards ( non-native plants, especially the African palms many love). That is their right however. At least cacti are native to the Americas.

[kcrazorbackfan]

If the yard offends some of you so much, pull you big boy pants/big girl panties up, walk up to the front door, ring the doorbell and proceed to tell the owners how much you dislike their yard. Express your displeasure to the owners in person.

Quit hiding behind the keypad.

[asianthree]

If the yard offends some of you so much, pull you big boy pants/big girl panties up, walk up to the front door, ring the doorbell and proceed to tell the owners how much you dislike their yard. Express your displeasure to the owners in person.

Quit hiding behind the keypad.

It’s been done. We looked at a house few doors down agent said it was a hard sell. Guess a drive by and living next to yard is two different stories

[joldnol]

It’s been done. We looked at a house few doors down agent said it was a hard sell. Guess a drive by and living next to yard is two different stories

Hard sell means you pay a bargain price, win win. Cheaper house next to a cool yard.

[asianthree]

Hard sell means you pay a bargain price, win win. Cheaper house next to a cool yard.

Yes it was $20,000 less than a house farther down the street. Loss for the seller. We passed on the house.

[Topspinmo]

Yes it was $20,000 less than a house farther down the street. Loss for the seller. We passed on the house.

20k not much when it's overpriced to begainning with. I expect to loose that much just get some of my money back by the time you pay all the nickel dime leaches.

[graciegirl]

20k not much when it's overpriced to begainning with. I expect to loose that much just get some of my money back by the time you pay all the nickel dime leaches.


Really? I am just like you, only different. I expect to make money on the investment of money on our house here. Or our girls will. AND 20 K is a lot of money.

[Harry Gilbert]

And what about for sale signs in front of houses and clothes drying racks on driveways. People should be considerate of neighbors and adhere to bylaws as the community dosen’t cite people for offenses. It’s up to the neighbors to report unseemingly stuff.


Slightly off topic but clotheslines are protected by law.




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[Topspinmo]

Really? I am just like you, only different. I expect to make money on the investment of money on our house here. Or our girls will. AND 20 K is a lot of money.

I can garrentee 20k lot more money to me than -. For most of us in the plan Jane stacked housing reality plain as the nose on your face. IMO it will be awhile before the housing market boom will go up with all the building and resale's on the market. Now for the prime million dollar properties by the developer's they will always command higher price.

[goodtimesintv]

For all who think the menagerie of cacti are attractive and pretty

....I would question whether they would put 50 well-done, artistic paintings together in one frame and demand it be on public display.

I have no problem with cacti nor what 99.9% of people here do with their yards. But this one is just, plain cluttered.

And yes, plants ARE "ornamental", as in yard ornamentation.

And for those who condescend to say "I go by 'live and let live'", which I think is a wise adage too, then why have the ARC??