Dst

[JoMar]

If DST becomes our time zone, what does that mean to you during those winter months. TV shows including sporting events start an hour later, your family will have to adjust to when you call or they call, if you still work you will need to start business at least an hour later and work an hour later to match any supplier or customer's hours. The panhandle is going to stay on central time so they will be two hours behind us. What else? This will be fun.

[Bogie Shooter]

Seem’s like there are more important things to be acting on up there in Tallahassee.

[EdFNJ]

As much as I like it, I highly doubt it will ever happen in FL alone unless it's done nationally (which won't happen either).

[villagetinker]

There are many items that will/may be affected, for example: for about half of the year

Any and all travel outside of the state, airlines, buses, trains, etc.
Cable TV shows, specifically the on screen schedule, and possibly the recording of these
Phone calls out of state (lets see which time is it?), same goes for any type of scheduled video chats, etc.
Cell phones, will they be able to pick the correct time?
GPS, OMG this could be a disaster half of the year.
The constant confusion of having to explain to out of state callers about the time, and for US remembering that we will need to make the conversion when we are calling out of state.
Any and all businesses that have closely tied operations out of state, think electric utilities, etc.

I am sure there are also going to be secondary effects that have not even been thought about, like cloud storage when the clocks on the servers on DST change yours does not, and the WRONG VERSION of your work is saved.

I could go on but you get the idea.
I would really like to see the elimination of daylight savings time, but only if the entire nation does it piecemeal solutions are going to present a lot of problems.

Any and all of your connected devices in your smart home, which time is your cable (internet) going to provide to your devices?
Any calls to a call center for scheduling anything.

This is just me humble opinion. I think this is a very bad idea for JUST Florida to change. My understanding, congress has to approve the change before Florida could actually implement it. Maybe we would get lucky, and the rest of the states would go along.......

[600th Photo Sq]

Like anything else...Lot's of Oh No !!!! Now What !!!!...OMG !!!!... an adjustment period............ Then.......Peace will return, then Chaos.....Then......well ya get the picture ...Relax..Pop a cold one Chill...ahhhh....

[Shimpy]

They did it wrong. Instead of keeping daylight saving time year around they should keep standard time year around..........I hate DST because that extra hour of daylight is burning up my lawn. LOL

[EdFNJ]

Like anything else...Lot's of Oh No !!!! Now What !!!!...OMG !!!!... an adjustment period............ Then.......Peace will return, then Chaos.....Then......well ya get the picture ...Relax..Pop a cold one Chill...ahhhh....

Right ... while the chances are virtually zero it will happen since the Feds, not the States control time zones they did it in a slightly different way in Arizona and Hawaii and have survived (they stayed on STANDARD TIME not DST).
From linked article:
The problem? Florida doesn’t have the authority to adopt daylight saving time year-round.
The federal government controls the nation’s time zones (https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/15/260a), as well as the start and end dates of daylight saving time. States can choose to exempt themselves from daylight saving time — Arizona and Hawaii do — but nothing in federal law allows them to exempt themselves from standard time.

SOURCE: Year-Round Daylight Saving Time? Florida Says Yes, but It’s Not So Simple - The New York Times (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/08/us/daylight-saving-time-florida.html)

[villagetinker]

Personally, I agree with a prior comment that will be a significant 'adjustment' period, I just hope Johnny Walker stays on schedule!!!! :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[kcrazorbackfan]

IMHO, I hope last night was the last time I ever have to change the clocks.

I don't mind DST; gives me more time to do things in the daylight when I get off work at 6pm.

[New Englander]

I like DST and wish it was a permanent thing.

[alwann]

It can be a nuisance. Look what they have to go through in the UK -- moving Stonehenge forward an hour.

74399

[villagetinker]

It can be a nuisance. Look what they have to go through in the UK -- moving Stonehenge forward an hour.

74399

OK, now that was funny. :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[rivaridger1]

I agree. That is hilarious. Well done. As to the Feds agreeing to the Florida change, not gonna happen.

[Mleeja]

Not for just Florida! To many complications!

[Chi-Town]

I agree. That is hilarious. Well done. As to the Feds agreeing to the Florida change, not gonna happen.I wouldn't be too sure. Florida is in a kind of favorite son status right now.

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[justjim]

Personally I spent most of my life on Central time. Never got use to nor liked eastern time. Congress pass a law putting the whole country on Central time. Problems solved.

[NYGUY]

It would screw up commerce in Florida :loco:

[billethkid]

One hour change and a week later no one would even remember the issue.

Ask the folks in AZ...they do not play the dst game....
they do quite well.

If a choice had to be made I would vote to stay on standard time.

Much bigger issues in today's world needing attention.

[fw102807]

I like DST and wish it was a permanent thing.

When I lived in New England I would have been ecstatic to have dst year round but when we moved down here we automatically gained an hour of daylight just by being further west.

[Nucky]

Oh just great. Now that I don't work anymore when my team is on Monday Night Football of in The Playoffs, now we will have the invention of having it earlier longer or later earlier. (Wrap your head around that).

Do you know how many days of work were missed by people who "went to the game last night"? You know what it's like heading home from Yankees Stadium or Giants Stadium after a game that ends at midnite. Every minute counts. Starting the game earlier is better. let the other coast suffer for 20 years.

[Mleeja]

If Florida stays on DST, we will be on the same time as San Juan year round, one hour ahead of Nassau in the winter, two hour ahead of Chicago, Nashville, Milwaukee, or Des Moines. Three hours ahead of Denver, Salt Lake City, or Phoenix. Forget the west coast... Monday night football would start at 10:00 pm. Jacksonville, Miami, or Tamps would probably never get a Sunday, Monday, or Thursday night home game. On cloudy days, it would not get light until 8:30/9:00 am. First tee times would be 8:30 am. Prime time TV shows will start at 9:00 pm. The local news at mid-night. Kids would be going and starting school in the dark. I hope you get my idea that staying on DST year round is not a great idea.

I agree with BTK, if we are going to not change our clocks, let’s settle on standard time year round. I lived through this when Indiana stayed on standard time year round. It was a pain in the arse, but not as bad as only one state being on DST year round.

[John_W]

...in the winter, two hour ahead of Chicago, Nashville, Milwaukee, or Des Moines. Three hours ahead of Denver, Salt Lake City, or Phoenix. Forget the west coast... Monday night football would start at 10:00 pm. Jacksonville, Miami, or Tamps would probably never get a Sunday, Monday, or Thursday night home game. On cloudy days, it would not get light until 8:30/9:00 am. First tee times would be 8:30 am. Prime time TV shows will start at 9:00 pm. The local news at mid-night. Kids would be going and starting school in the dark. I hope you get my idea that staying on DST year round is not a great idea...


Just for the sake of television and sports I would hate winter-time DST. I loved living in Pensacola for six years on Central Time. The NFL games in the Florida Panhandle on Sundays start at noon, primetime TV begins at 7:00, Johnny Carson was on at 10:30. If anything, I would like Central Time for the rest of Florida just like the Panhandle, but Daylight Savings Time year round, NO WAY!!

[Polar Bear]

...Much bigger issues in today's world needing attention.
Doesn’t mean the smaller issues have to be ignored. :)

[perrjojo]

We are in California for the month and it is 3 hours earlier here. It seems the day is half over before California wakes up. The good part is that it is 3:00 here but I know it’s 6:00in Florida so why not go ahead and have a cocktail.

[ColdNoMore]

Doesn’t mean the smaller issues have to be ignored. :)

Here we go again...I agree. :oops:

:D




Discussing big AND smaller issues...is the purpose of a site like this.

Not to even mention, that if someone doesn't care for the subject of a particular thread...there's a very easy way to solve that problem.

As for DST, I vote for every state going to it full time...and just keep it year around. :shrug:

[ColdNoMore]

It can be a nuisance. Look what they have to go through in the UK -- moving Stonehenge forward an hour.

74399

Love it! :1rotfl: :1rotfl:

[Aloha1]

Once again, the part - time brilliant minds in Tallahassee have come up with a solution in search of a problem. While on the surface, staying on DST might sound good, consider this: The majority of Florida revenue comes from TOURISM. And when do the vast bulk of tourists come to FL? In the winter. Now, if this law stands, amusement parks will no longer open at 8AM as it will be pitch dark. Fireworks at Disney will not happen because the parks will close at dusk. Golf in TV will be severely affected since the earliest starting times will now be around 8:30 AM instead of 7:30. Plus, at 8 AM during the winter it will be cold enough to freeze your socks off! If this must happen, the better solution would be to stay on STANDARD time year round. Better yet, leave it alone. Gov. Scott should let this die a quiet death.

[Polar Bear]

Once again, the part - time brilliant minds in Tallahassee have come up with a solution in search of a problem. While on the surface, staying on DST might sound good, consider this: The majority of Florida revenue comes from TOURISM. And when do the vast bulk of tourists come to FL? In the winter. Now, if this law stands, amusement parks will no longer open at 8AM as it will be pitch dark. Fireworks at Disney will not happen because the parks will close at dusk. Golf in TV will be severely affected since the earliest starting times will now be around 8:30 AM instead of 7:30. Plus, at 8 AM during the winter it will be cold enough to freeze your socks off! If this must happen, the better solution would be to stay on STANDARD time year round. Better yet, leave it alone. Gov. Scott should let this die a quiet death.
With DST, there will be the exact same amount of daylight. People will adjust.

I think more people would like more daylight later than earlier.

[New Englander]

With DST, there will be the exact same amount of daylight. People will adjust.

I think more people would like more daylight later than earlier.

I know I do.

[Mleeja]

With DST, there will be the exact same amount of daylight. People will adjust.

I think more people would like more daylight later than earlier.

There is a meme floating around Facebook, Twitter, etc that sums up DST fairly well. From a Native American speaking, “Only a white man can cut off 6 inches from the bottom of a blanket, sew it to the top and then convince you that you have a longer blanket.” Quite screwing around with time completely! To counter other comments, I like playing golf at 7:30 am, walking in the mornings, or getting my yardword done early. I am a morning person who prefers “god’s natural time”.

[Hacker1]

They did it wrong. Instead of keeping daylight saving time year around they should keep standard time year around..........I hate DST because that extra hour of daylight is burning up my lawn. LOL

I heartily agree!!!

[ColdNoMore]

I heartily agree!!!

I assume you realize that Shimpy's comment was nothing but a big joke (and a good one at that)...correct?

Regardless of what time your watch/clock says, there is still the exact same amount of daylight hours...on any given day.

It really boils down to whether you prefer having sunrise occur an hour earlier in the morning...or having sunset an hour later in the evening. :shrug:

[ColdNoMore]

There is a meme floating around Facebook, Twitter, etc that sums up DST fairly well. From a Native American speaking, “Only a white man can cut off 6 inches from the bottom of a blanket, sew it to the top and then convince you that you have a longer blanket.”
Actually, that analogy isn't even close to being accurate.

No sensible person is saying that you somehow get an hour extra of actual daylight with DST...it simply changes the time on your clock when the sun rises and when it sets.




Quite screwing around with time completely! To counter other comments, I like playing golf at 7:30 am, walking in the mornings, or getting my yardword done early.
Which simply means that you would be doing all of that an hour later...to maintain the exact same amount of daylight.

It really just boils down to either being a 'morning person' or 'an evening person.' :shrug:

Since the majority of the country works, it allows those who still have jobs to have an extra hour of daylight to do things...once they get off of work.



I am a morning person who prefers “god’s natural time”.

OK, whether intentional or not...that's pretty funny too. :D

Here's the reason Time Zones were instituted in the first place.


Why Were Time Zones Created? (https://www.timeanddate.com/time/time-zones-history.html)

19th Century Challenges

American railroads maintained many different time zones during the late 1800s. Each train station set its own clock making it difficult to coordinate train schedules and confusing passengers. Time calculation became a serious problem for people traveling by train (sometimes hundreds of miles in a day), according to the Library of Congress.

Every city in the United States used a different time standard, so there were more than 300 local sun-times to choose from.

Railroad managers tried to address the problem by establishing 100 railroad time zones, but this was only a partial solution to the problem.

[Aloha1]

With DST, there will be the exact same amount of daylight. People will adjust.

I think more people would like more daylight later than earlier.

Of course the amount of daylight would be the same. No one is disputing that. The issue is the big screwup in morning activities, etc., as others here have brought up. Now the Florida Teachers Association has come out against this ill thought out idea as it will create a potential safety hazard for children going to school. Kiil the bill!

[Polar Bear]

Of course the amount of daylight would be the same. No one is disputing that...
Of course that's true. (I certainly hope so anyway. :) ) You've never stated the obvious in expressing an opinion?

[Polar Bear]

...it will create a potential safety hazard for children going to school...
Not if they start school an hour later...according to the clock, not the sun.

[joldnol]

Not if they start school an hour later...according to the clock, not the sun.

Most districts in Florida use the same bus at least twice a day, some thrice. That is why high school starts early, elementary 8ish and middle school ninish. Transportation wags the dog. Your proposal would require more buses and middle schoolers getting out after five.

[Polar Bear]

Most districts in Florida use the same bus at least twice a day, some thrice. That is why high school starts early, elementary 8ish and middle school ninish. Transportation wags the dog. Your proposal would require more buses and middle schoolers getting out after five.
First of all, it’s not “my proposal”. Just a statement of fact.

Secondly, any change in school start times would likely necessitate other possible changes too. Transportation, while it may wag the the dog, is not etched in stone. It...like any other part of the entire education system or life in general...can change with the times.