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Chatbrat
03-28-2018, 05:04 AM
In the unmentionable online news, a number of cars were burglarized @ the Eisenhower Rec Center--with proximity to certain areas of Leesburg & Wildwood--word to the wise--leave nothing valuable in your cars or golf carts, when parking during hours of darkness--TV is not a "gated" community @ there are no surveillance cameras on Buena Vista & Morse Blvd pff of Rte 44

graciegirl
03-28-2018, 06:45 AM
In the unmentionable online news, a number of cars were burglarized @ the Eisenhower Rec Center--with proximity to certain areas of Leesburg & Wildwood--word to the wise--leave nothing valuable in your cars or golf carts, when parking during hours of darkness--TV is not a "gated" community @ there are no surveillance cameras on Buena Vista & Morse Blvd pff of Rte 44

There is a picture of the new looking SUV he was driving in the parking lot and a description of the dark skinned male who broke into the cars. It is an unusual happening and it makes me furious. In fact I can't think of it ever happening; cars broken into at a rec center here.

I have great trust in the combined effort of the Lake, Sumter, and Marion L.E.O.s. They found those scoundrels who mugged a Villager outside Target a couple of years ago. They worked with Orlando L.E.O.s to catch the pair.

Chellybean
03-28-2018, 07:01 AM
[QUOTE=graciegirl;1527645]There is a picture of the new looking SUV he was driving, in the parking lot and a description of the dark skinned male who broke into the cars. It is an unusual happening and it makes me furious. In fact I can't think of it ever happening; cars broken into at a rec center here.

I have great trust in the combined effort of the Lake, Sumter, and Marion L.E.O.s. They found those scoundrels who mugged a Villager outside Target a couple of years ago. They worked with Orlando L.E.O.s to catch the pair.[/QUOTE

This is why i am glad we live in a CC state and the Castle Doctrine applies which is stand your own ground.
Can you imagine if this individual was confronted by someone going to there vehicle while they where breaking in there car.
A lot of woman carry and i am glad they do and were properly trained by ex- law enforcement and military at 44 to carry safely.

billethkid
03-28-2018, 07:10 AM
A thief stealing from a car is not an offense warranting drawing a concealed weapon. Certain condition exist that govern when a weapon could or should be drawn. As soon as a weapon is drawn it is considered brandishing. A drawn weapon denotes lethal force intended.

Please read the following to get calibrated to the reality of carrying and when to draw a concealed weapon:

When To Draw Your Concealed Carry Handgun - USA Carry (https://www.usacarry.com/draw-concealed-carry-handgun/)

aninjamom
03-28-2018, 07:36 AM
You also need to consider the fact that the thief might be armed too. Better to just call for help and try to get the license or a photo than confronting someone. Locking a car doesn't make it secure, there are types that will just smash windows, or cut a convertible top if they see something tempting. If I need to leave bags or my purse in the car, I lock them in the trunk out of sight. Use some common sense people, don't leave stuff in your car!

Bogie Shooter
03-28-2018, 07:52 AM
[QUOTE=graciegirl;1527645]There is a picture of the new looking SUV he was driving, in the parking lot and a description of the dark skinned male who broke into the cars. It is an unusual happening and it makes me furious. In fact I can't think of it ever happening; cars broken into at a rec center here.

I have great trust in the combined effort of the Lake, Sumter, and Marion L.E.O.s. They found those scoundrels who mugged a Villager outside Target a couple of years ago. They worked with Orlando L.E.O.s to catch the pair.[/QUOTE

This is why i am glad we live in a CC state and the Castle Doctrine applies which is stand your own ground.
Can you imagine if this individual was confronted by someone going to there vehicle while they where breaking in there car.
A lot of woman carry and i am glad they do and were properly trained by ex- law enforcement and military at 44 to carry safely.

What does your last paragraph have to do with this incident?

Bogie Shooter
03-28-2018, 07:57 AM
In the unmentionable online news, a number of cars were burglarized @ the Eisenhower Rec Center--with proximity to certain areas of Leesburg & Wildwood--word to the wise--leave nothing valuable in your cars or golf carts, when parking during hours of darkness--TV is not a "gated" community @ there are no surveillance cameras on Buena Vista & Morse Blvd pff of Rte 44

It’s common sense to lock your car any where.....not just in the proximity to certain areas of Leesburg & Wildwood.
Btw what”certain areas” are you referring to?

DeanFL
03-28-2018, 08:00 AM
[QUOTE=Chellybean;1527649]

What does your last paragraph have to do with this incident?

Perhaps because this incident happened near Brownwood. And we all know what happens to cattle rustlers and horse thieves when encountered. Our cars and carts serve our needs as horses did in the wild west. If I would catch someone messin' with MY ride in a parking lot... well, just sayin' pardner... "git 'em up!"

:crap2::crap2::crap2:

thetruth
03-28-2018, 08:08 AM
[QUOTE=graciegirl;1527645]There is a picture of the new looking SUV he was driving, in the parking lot and a description of the dark skinned male who broke into the cars. It is an unusual happening and it makes me furious. In fact I can't think of it ever happening; cars broken into at a rec center here.

I have great trust in the combined effort of the Lake, Sumter, and Marion L.E.O.s. They found those scoundrels who mugged a Villager outside Target a couple of years ago. They worked with Orlando L.E.O.s to catch the pair.[/QUOTE

This is why i am glad we live in a CC state and the Castle Doctrine applies which is stand your own ground.
Can you imagine if this individual was confronted by someone going to there vehicle while they where breaking in there car.
A lot of woman carry and i am glad they do and were properly trained by ex- law enforcement and military at 44 to carry safely.

Most people have no idea how their lives will be changed.

graciegirl
03-28-2018, 08:40 AM
[QUOTE=Chellybean;1527649]

Most people have no idea how their lives will be changed.

Me and Chelly are quoted together and I am not sure whose lives you mean.

Me. I am sure law enforcement will catch this guy if he returns, probably driving a stolen car. I don't like folks breaking into anything here.

Just about every time I enter one of our regional rec centers and see all of the beautiful and expensive accessories everywhere, it makes me proud that things aren't taken. I hope that never changes. I believe that as a group of people, we folks born after the second world war and the baby boomers too, are mostly decent folks. We had moms that drilled it into us that it was wrong to steal, and to lie, and to kill...and dad's that backed up our moms, most of us, anyway.

manaboutown
03-28-2018, 08:53 AM
The good news is TV enjoys the protection very good LEOs. I am sure they are on it and will apprehend the thug if he is a local. He likely resides in one of the surrounding communities. Probably stealing for money to buy drugs.

vintageogauge
03-28-2018, 10:28 AM
As long as there are drugs to be purchased property crimes will remain, if not by this young man it will be by another. We all know this has been happening for decades and should not be naive enough to think it is not going to happen here. If you leave nothing of value in your car you have nothing to lose. As far as locking them the cost to repair the damage caused by a break in would most likely be higher than the replacement cost of whatever is stolen. I do lock my car but just from habit, there is nothing in it when parked. In our 49 years of marriage we have been burglarized 3 times, once while we were sleeping up stairs and have had two cars stolen. These crimes did not occur in or near areas that were considered to be at risk, we were just unlucky.

wisbad1
03-28-2018, 11:16 AM
I agree,

Kerry Azz
03-28-2018, 11:54 AM
I was raised in Boston’s South end. And always prided myself on being streetsmart and aware of my surroundings. People here in the villages amaze me with how nonchalant they are about leaving things in their golf carts and cars, they are inviting the thieves to ply their trade.
My phone cost over$1000 and my sunglasses around $300 I worked hard to buy the things I like and don’t leave them laying around for someone to take, The suronding areas of the villages have quite a few people who wouldn’t thing anything about grabbing what they can from you. Keep you stuff locked under key and don’t assume because your a villager your safe from being a target because your not! This is in no way a gated community you need to remember your stuff is only as safe as you keep it.

Chatbrat
03-28-2018, 12:19 PM
I believe the night the incident--TV Straight Shooters Club had its meeting-just a hunch--bet the perp was looking to snag some firearms --worth $$$ on the street in some neighborhoods

graciegirl
03-28-2018, 02:28 PM
I was raised in Boston’s South end. And always prided myself on being streetsmart and aware of my surroundings. People here in the villages amaze me with how nonchalant they are about leaving things in their golf carts and cars, they are inviting the thieves to ply their trade.
My phone cost over$1000 and my sunglasses around $300 I worked hard to buy the things I like and don’t leave them laying around for someone to take, The suronding areas of the villages have quite a few people who wouldn’t thing anything about grabbing what they can from you. Keep you stuff locked under key and don’t assume because your a villager your safe from being a target because your not! This is in no way a gated community you need to remember your stuff is only as safe as you keep it.

I came from a suburb of Cincinnati where we had lived for forty years and before that Columbus, Ohio. Even today our daughter who still lives there doesn't lock her door. I get after her for it, it isn't smart anymore. No one in our family has ever been robbed. When we left, suburban drugs were beginning to really happen. It makes me angry and upset that this is happening in wonderful areas.

I haven't ever left anything of value in our car. But for those reading this forum, The Villages does have very low crime and quite possibly because most of us do NOT work and have some pretty good vision. If we see folks who don't look like Villagers, they stick out like sore thumbs, and most of us would report them if they were acting suspiciously. Most of the folks in surrounding areas are good people. I HATE it when people make general statements about them that is negative. No wonder folks there dislike us so much.

It is always wise to pay attention to your surroundings and many of us have cameras everywhere. The ladies and gentlemen who are law enforcement in the three counties and municipalities deserve our thanks. You wait and see, if this fellow comes back, they will get him.

dave042
03-28-2018, 03:36 PM
There is a picture of the new looking SUV he was driving in the parking lot and a description of the dark skinned male

why not state his race? it would help everybody, just saying.

CFrance
03-28-2018, 03:50 PM
why not state his race? it would help everybody, just saying.
Maybe it's hard to tell from the video. Maybe it's difficult to discern among the different darker skinned races. Maybe she just plain DOESN'T WANT TO.

In 2011 there were thieves kicking in front doors in new area. One swift kick would take the whole door and frame out. A golf cart was stolen out of a driveway while the owners were inside having breakfast. Many valuable items were stolen in broad daylight.

The police caught maybe not 100% of them, but enough to stop the crime wave. It doesn't help your emotions much when you come home to find your house robbed, but there is some measure of satisfaction to see the criminals caught and prosecuted. The LEOs do a good job around TV.

manaboutown
03-28-2018, 04:32 PM
why not state his race? it would help everybody, just saying.

Well the news did report the perp was wearing white shoes, very helpful, no doubt!

Ecuadog
03-28-2018, 06:34 PM
I believe the night the incident--TV Straight Shooters Club had its meeting-just a hunch--bet the perp was looking to snag some firearms --worth $$$ on the street in some neighborhoods

I think you're wrong. Just a hunch.

kcrazorbackfan
03-28-2018, 08:05 PM
A thief stealing from a car is not an offense warranting drawing a concealed weapon. Certain condition exist that govern when a weapon could or should be drawn. As soon as a weapon is drawn it is considered brandishing. A drawn weapon denotes lethal force intended.

Please read the following to get calibrated to the reality of carrying and when to draw a concealed weapon:

When To Draw Your Concealed Carry Handgun - USA Carry (https://www.usacarry.com/draw-concealed-carry-handgun/)

But a thief caught burglarizing a car that makes a threatening gesture/move toward the person that caught him/her is a whole different story.

Most people would rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6.

manaboutown
03-28-2018, 08:48 PM
But a thief caught burglarizing a car that makes a threatening gesture/move toward the person that caught him/her is a whole different story.

Most people would rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6.

:BigApplause::boom:

Spikearoni
03-28-2018, 09:00 PM
But a thief caught burglarizing a car that makes a threatening gesture/move toward the person that caught him/her is a whole different story.

Most people would rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6.

I'm wondering how long it would take for a woman to get the gun out of her purse when coming upon the intruder. She may end up being carried by 6 if the robber, with gun in hand, gets her before she gets her gun. :boom:

BobnBev
03-28-2018, 09:12 PM
Time to bring back good old "street justice". That's something they understand. Broken kneecaps are a good reminder that crime doesn't pay.:boom::clap2::clap2:

Wiotte
03-28-2018, 10:02 PM
Time to bring back good old "street justice". That's something they understand. Broken kneecaps are a good reminder that crime doesn't pay.:boom::clap2::clap2:



Too many Jimmy Cagney movies. Have you ever capped anyone ?


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Nucky
03-28-2018, 10:45 PM
On the advice of my counsel, I take the fifth and The Lobster. Whoever did this needs some street justice, BobnBev was on the money and Krazorback knows the finer point of when it's ok to cap or not to cap because that is the real question. Scum that's what they are. Stay out of here.

Chatbrat
03-29-2018, 04:27 AM
Never , and I mean never attempt to draw down on any person who has a firearm in their hand pointed in your direction-best is to back away get cover and then unholster your firearm and hope you don't need to use it --remember these words if you ever have to use a firearm--when LEO's arrive--"I will co-operate with you 100% after my lawyer arrives"

cologal
03-29-2018, 04:58 AM
A thief stealing from a car is not an offense warranting drawing a concealed weapon. Certain condition exist that govern when a weapon could or should be drawn. As soon as a weapon is drawn it is considered brandishing. A drawn weapon denotes lethal force intended.

Please read the following to get calibrated to the reality of carrying and when to draw a concealed weapon:

When To Draw Your Concealed Carry Handgun - USA Carry (https://www.usacarry.com/draw-concealed-carry-handgun/)

Good post... I faced this situation a few years back. The guy that pulled the gun on me spent the weekend in jail and had a court date.

Kerry Azz
03-29-2018, 06:45 AM
I came from a suburb of Cincinnati where we had lived for forty years and before that Columbus, Ohio. Even today our daughter who still lives there doesn't lock her door. I get after her for it, it isn't smart anymore. No one in our family has ever been robbed. When we left, suburban drugs were beginning to really happen. It makes me angry and upset that this is happening in wonderful areas.

I haven't ever left anything of value in our car. But for those reading this forum, The Villages does have very low crime and quite possibly because most of us do NOT work and have some pretty good vision. If we see folks who don't look like Villagers, they stick out like sore thumbs, and most of us would report them if they were acting suspiciously. Most of the folks in surrounding areas are good people. I HATE it when people make general statements about them that is negative. No wonder folks there dislike us so much.

It is always wise to pay attention to your surroundings and many of us have cameras everywhere. The ladies and gentlemen who are law enforcement in the three counties and municipalities deserve our thanks. You wait and see, if this fellow comes back, they will get him.
The fact is Leesburg had the highest increase in crimes committed in the state last year!

graciegirl
03-29-2018, 07:18 AM
The fact is Leesburg had the highest increase in crimes committed in the state last year!

Crime rates for first half of 2017 down statewide but up in Broward, data shows - Sun Sentinel (http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/florida/fl-reg-2017-crime-stats-so-far-20171121-story.html)




There is nothing in my car that would make me want to shoot someone.

I could probably tear someone apart with my bare hands who would attempt to harm my grandchildren.

There was someone who broke into some of our cars at Eisenhower. The law enforcement will probably find out who it is.

OCsun
03-29-2018, 08:32 AM
Gracie - I am with you on this one!

kstew43
03-29-2018, 09:11 AM
Crime rates for first half of 2017 down statewide but up in Broward, data shows - Sun Sentinel (http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/florida/fl-reg-2017-crime-stats-so-far-20171121-story.html)




There is nothing in my car that would make me want to shoot someone.

I could probably tear someone apart with my bare hands who would attempt to harm my grandchildren.

There was someone who broke into some of our cars at Eisenhower. The law enforcement will probably find out who it is.

be it a car breakin or a home invasion, its not only the loss of my property, stuff can be replaced... its the INVASION of my personnel space.

A stranger rummaging thru my personal things would leave me with a level of insecurity that would probably never leave my memory.

If I attempted to protect my self, mace, gun what have you... That, on my part, would give me a sence of effort?, at least I tryed to protect what is mine.

knock on wood.....no one ever needs to

joldnol
03-29-2018, 09:33 AM
In the unmentionable online news, a number of cars were burglarized @ the Eisenhower Rec Center--with proximity to certain areas of Leesburg & Wildwood--word to the wise--leave nothing valuable in your cars or golf carts, when parking during hours of darkness--TV is not a "gated" community @ there are no surveillance cameras on Buena Vista & Morse Blvd pff of Rte 44

and spanish springs is ON 441....what's your point?

billethkid
03-29-2018, 09:57 AM
be it a car breakin or a home invasion, its not only the loss of my property, stuff can be replaced... its the INVASION of my personnel space.

A stranger rummaging thru my personal things would leave me with a level of insecurity that would probably never leave my memory.

If I attempted to protect my self, mace, gun what have you... That, on my part, would give me a sence of effort?, at least I tryed to protect what is mine.

knock on wood.....no one ever needs to

Just remember the basic rule of concealed carry...

"...if you believe your life is in imminent danger, your first priority is to leave and your second is to use your firearm as the means of securing that exit...."

Too many people have the wrong impression of what concealed carry ALLOWS.

I feel obligated to remind those who, in my opinion, may view it incorrectly.

towgo
03-29-2018, 11:15 AM
what is an LEO?

manaboutown
03-29-2018, 11:20 AM
what is an LEO?

law enforcement officer

Retiring
03-29-2018, 11:20 AM
The last time I was victim to this sort of thing was in college. It was 1984 in Daytona Beach and I had my math textbook on the front passenger seat with the window open. When I returned, the book was gone. It was near finals and the book was full of notes and highlights. I was stupid but I was also a kid.

Now, I would never leave anything of value in open sight. Doesn’t matter where you live, it’s just common sense.

manaboutown
03-29-2018, 11:43 AM
The last time I was victim to this sort of thing was in college. It was 1984 in Daytona Beach and I had my math textbook on the front passenger seat with the window open. When I returned, the book was gone. It was near finals and the book was full of notes and highlights. I was stupid but I was also a kid.

Now, I would never leave anything of value in open sight. Doesn’t matter where you live, it’s just common sense.

That reminds me of the theft of my Blue Key sweater from my XK120 roadster parked next to my fraternity's house in 1964. It was not the $8 cost of the sweater but the letter on it that I could not get replaced. I thought no one would take such an item but someone did. Like your math textbook. What a bummer for you.

A lady I know in the early 1990s used to keep her maps in a laptop case in her car. Some thug broke into her locked car to steal what he thought was a computer. He was so angry that the case contained only maps that he broke a few more windows.

One of my cousins who lives in the Foggy Bottom area of Washington D.C and has no garage parks his car outside overnight. He calls leaving nothing to be seen inside as "city rules".