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Mainah
04-16-2018, 08:36 PM
My wife and I are shopping for our retirement home at Fenney. Yeah... I know it's disconnected, but we are still a few years from retirement. We have noticed that most of the Patio Villas there do not have a lanai. When I asked my salesman, he gave a nonsensical answer. Does anyone know why they are moving away from lanais?
tomwed
04-16-2018, 08:51 PM
My wife and I are shopping for our retirement home at Fenney. Yeah... I know it's disconnected, but we are still a few years from retirement. We have noticed that most of the Patio Villas there do not have a lanai. When I asked my salesman, he gave a nonsensical answer. Does anyone know why they are moving away from lanais?Would you mind sharing what he said? I don't know why they would discontinue lanais.
Mainah
04-16-2018, 09:24 PM
It was something about adding a bedroom for the emerald model. We never considered that model. He's a really nice guy but probably had a long day..If you look at Patio Villas in Fenney few have lanais. They are replaced by a Florida room. There is no door between it and the house so you can't enjoy fresh air...
wdonze
04-16-2018, 10:53 PM
Of the 12 Patio Villa floor plans:
4 have no lanai (Cottage,Nantucket,Sapphire and Vineyard)
2 have a lanai with only 1 screened wall (Emerald and Moonstone)
6 have a lanai with 2 screened walls (std for patio villas)
None of the Patio Villas have a Florida room. Maybe you are thinking of a different series.
CFrance
04-17-2018, 02:05 AM
Of the 12 Patio Villa floor plans:
4 have no lanai (Cottage,Nantucket,Sapphire and Vineyard)
2 have a lanai with only 1 screened wall (Emerald and Moonstone)
6 have a lanai with 2 screened walls (std for patio villas)
None of the Patio Villas have a Florida room. Maybe you are thinking of a different series.
Or maybe the sales agent is, since he's the one who mentioned Florida rooms.
graciegirl
04-17-2018, 05:42 AM
My wife and I are shopping for our retirement home at Fenney. Yeah... I know it's disconnected, but we are still a few years from retirement. We have noticed that most of the Patio Villas there do not have a lanai. When I asked my salesman, he gave a nonsensical answer. Does anyone know why they are moving away from lanais?
The patio Villa's usually have a screened in porch on the FRONT with two screened walls.
Wing-nut2
04-17-2018, 06:11 AM
I've been in Florida all my life and most of the year it's too hot to sit out on a lanai. Many people in TV close them in because of this.
Ride around and see just how many people are sitting out on the lanai. You won't see many during the day and very few at night. A house facing north is the best you can get in Florida. Sun comes up in the East and down in the West. Both are on the Side of the house. Facing North puts the summer sun on the Front of the house so you might be able to use the lanai. And of course the sun is toward the South in the Winter so it will warm the lanai. My two cents.
fw102807
04-17-2018, 06:15 AM
I have a friend that bought a house in Naples and then sold it and built a house because she said outdoor space in Florida is very important. I agree and we just expanded our lanai. I know many have enclosed them but our 3/2 CYV is big enough that we do not need another room.
asianthree
04-17-2018, 06:51 AM
For some it’s not about the lanai it’s about the extra space in the bedroom. We have friends who have never sat in their lanai they just don’t like it. If you’re looking at a patio villa and want that third bedroom it’s a bonus due to the lack of lanai.
At Our original patio villa, have to say I rarely spent any time on the lanai, I just didn’t like it being in the front of the house.
The developer is trying to please thousands of people so they have offered multiple patio villas layouts to pick from if you need a lanai just pick one of those. When we started coming in 07 you had two patio villas to pick from, that was it
Wing-nut2
04-17-2018, 07:32 AM
I tried to make a deal with a friend of mine. We would ride around TV and for every empty lanai, he would give my one dollar. For every lanai we found someone on, I would give him 5 dollars. He wouldn't do it. Said it would cost hime too much money. No Kidding. Remember, you only have to satisfy yourself.
DeanFL
04-17-2018, 07:46 AM
We bought/built in 2014 - Gilchrist. Regular lot with homes in back, but nice. Our Model, Holly, has a small inset lanai right in the middle of the home back. We did bump it back 2' = all they allowed. No real view - westerly with PM sun.
So during the design meeting we decided to have them make a Florida Room rather than lanai. Floor level with rest of home, HVAC, stretch of windows and door in the back and french doors to the room. We use it just about every day - read, relax, treadmill. Always comfy. The house is 2350 sq feet with the FL Room.
Would we like a lanai in back - Use it occasionally for sure - but we do get much more use from what we did.
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04-17-2018, 08:32 AM
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justjim
04-17-2018, 08:59 AM
Lanais are too cold a lot of the time during winter months and too hot during the summer. If you have any allergy issues they are pretty useless. A house facing north is best if you must have a lanai and get the best use of it. But to each his own......
vintageogauge
04-17-2018, 12:47 PM
It's nice to have a Lanai, we don't use it daily nor did we use our deck up north daily but would not want a Florida home without one. Our home has a water view and the lanai helps us to enjoy the view. They are nice to have when grilling or just having a late day cocktail or morning coffee. It also gives you something else to clean on a regular basis, they do get dusty.
Fredster
04-17-2018, 01:43 PM
Our house faces east and we use our lanai quite a bit.
It’s nice to have a cup of coffee and listen to the birds.
Don’t use it as much when it is really hot, but
that isn’t too often.
The weather here is generally pretty nice,
so it’s nice to be able to have the option to
not be closed in and enjoy it!
Ingenuity
04-17-2018, 05:06 PM
Your agent is correct, some of the Emerald models have Florida Rooms. The other models that we saw without a lanai a Sapphire and a Topaz. The models in Fenney are now being built differently, and my sales person, who has become a friend, stated they are building homes in response to surveys they have received and if there is a choice between a lanai and an extra room, many people want the extra room. With that said, they are still building many homes with Lanais.
I have noticed there are more retirees moving in that are still working and some are working from home. They need a home office but do not want a large home with 3 bedrooms.
Fraugoofy
04-17-2018, 08:19 PM
I've been in Florida all my life and most of the year it's too hot to sit out on a lanai. Many people in TV close them in because of this.
Ride around and see just how many people are sitting out on the lanai. You won't see many during the day and very few at night. A house facing north is the best you can get in Florida. Sun comes up in the East and down in the West. Both are on the Side of the house. Facing North puts the summer sun on the Front of the house so you might be able to use the lanai. And of course the sun is toward the South in the Winter so it will warm the lanai. My two cents.I love your perspective and the fact that you have lived in Florida your entire life may be why we are different. I live in TV 8 months out of the year (June through January) and hail from Wisconsin. I use my lanai each and every day. Morning coffee, nightcap beer. Every day. Love it. Would miss it dearly... just another 2 cents worth. The 4 months I am not in TV, I am enjoying the snow...
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We eat all of our meals on our lanai except on cold windy days and just a few very hot days in the summer. We have a west exposure and love the sunsets. We often use the ceiling fans in the summer. I love reading outside and listening to sounds of water and watching the water birds. It feels like a resort spa. Most of the neighbors on our side of the street use their lanais daily as well. Can't speak for the others.
CFrance
04-18-2018, 01:00 AM
Your agent is correct, some of the Emerald models have Florida Rooms. The other models that we saw without a lanai a Sapphire and a Topaz. The models in Fenney are now being built differently, and my sales person, who has become a friend, stated they are building homes in response to surveys they have received and if there is a choice between a lanai and an extra room, many people want the extra room. With that said, they are still building many homes with Lanais.
I have noticed there are more retirees moving in that are still working and some are working from home. They need a home office but do not want a large home with 3 bedrooms.
Thanks for the up-to-date information.
graciegirl
04-18-2018, 05:31 AM
We eat all of our meals on our lanai except on cold windy days and just a few very hot days in the summer. We have a west exposure and love the sunsets. We often use the ceiling fans in the summer. I love reading outside and listening to sounds of water and watching the water birds. It feels like a resort spa. Most of the neighbors on our side of the street use their lanais daily as well. Can't speak for the others.
I so agree. Our lanai faces west too. We have added a pool and a birdcage and sometimes we drink our morning coffee out there. We use our front porch often as well. I remember years ago when The Village Kahuna(the male one) said that being outdoors was one of the main reasons for being in Florida and that outdoor space was important. I love that the screening keeps out most bugs and critters.
JoJo's view is so beautiful. She has the water and a golf course view past the water. Her mother when they were adding the large lanai called for us to rescue a butterfly bush that was being dug up. Her mother is amazing at 105 years of age. And apples don't fall far from the tree in that family.
8notes
04-18-2018, 06:23 AM
Our lanai faces east. We get the morning sun, which makes it pleasant in the summer, to enjoy it in the mornings for coffee or whatever. In the afternoon it is in the shade, which if you want to use it in the summer, makes sense, because it is 10 degrees cooler than other locations. With the fans going it is tolerable, although not great. It is extremely hot in The Villages in the summer. In the winter we can't use it much, too cool. It is lovely this time of year, and in the fall. Although, with the high pollen counts, there is green crud on everything unless you clean frequently. We are fortunate to have a seating area in our house front entrance that we use as an alternate lanai, when the weather is cooler. Even on cool days in the winter, the front, which faces the west, heats up nicely in the afternoon sun. I would not get a west facing lanai if you plan on using it during warm weather. Unless it is shaded somehow, the afternoon sun, particularly in the summer, is absolutely brutal.
NotGolfer
04-18-2018, 06:54 AM
First year we were here we did sit on our lanai from time to time. Time passed and we used it...hardly ever. It collected dirt and we just weren't using it because of the weather---too hot most times. Everyone is different! We know some folks who use theirs ALL the time. We had ours made into a room w/heat and air. It's quite nice!!
Some lanai's are better than others---so look at all styles of homes etc. before deciding on what type to buy.
patfla06
04-18-2018, 07:57 PM
We are outside people so a lanai is very important to us.
Ours has an eastern exposure. We waited 3 years before we closed it with sliding (tinted) doors but also put in a Mitsubishi mini split with heat & cooling.
It was the best money we ever spent.
Keeps it clean, pollen out, cool in Summer and warm in
Winter.
dsnrbec
04-19-2018, 06:42 PM
Everyone is different but we use our lanai almost everyday. We wouldn’t consider a home here without outdoor living space.
rustyp
04-19-2018, 06:57 PM
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graciegirl
04-19-2018, 07:03 PM
People who own west facing lanai's will swear to not making a mistake until after the house is sold. So many people love the summer heat and humidity. But then again don't they keep telling me how it is like staying inside for the winter in the north ? If you have money to burn - no problem. You will get it enclosed and air conditioned. Perhaps others who have gone this route can tell you how much this cost.
This is our second west facing lanai in The Villages. The first was in Hadley.
We have no intention to have it enclosed. I invite you to come and have dinner on the lanai in July, Rusty pee.
rustyp
04-19-2018, 07:07 PM
This is our second west facing lanai in The Villages. The first was in Hadley.
We have no intention to have it enclosed. I invite you to come and have dinner on the lanai in July, Rusty pee.
Thanks for the offer but I assure I won't be here in mid summer - I am not a heat person. Enjoy Grace-sea Geeee.
graciegirl
04-19-2018, 07:08 PM
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