rules and regs

[mike barkley]

are the rules the same whether youre in a premier viilage or in the historic area?

[Bogie Shooter]

are the rules the same whether youre in a premier viilage or in the historic area?
The covenants have changed since the historical side. As The Villages has grown so has the deed restrictions and covenants been modified. Some say for the better, some say not. Can't please everbody.

[alemorkam]

Covenants are different but the amenities are the same for everyone in the villages.

[chuckster]

are the rules the same whether youre in a premier viilage or in the historic area?

Just curious, what do you mean by "the rules"?

[Bryan]

The answer is "mostly yes" with a couple of notable exceptions. First big exception is the covenants and restrictions in your deed. That changed as TV grew and there is one set in the historic district, another between 27/441 and 466, another between 466 and Sumter Landing, another between Sumter Landing and 466A, and they will probably change a little more when south of 466a to 44 gets built. The other exception is to realize that TV resides in three different countries (Lake, Marion, and Sumter), one town (Lady Lake) and at some point portions will also reside in the town of Wildwood. Each government has slightly different laws, rules, taxes, etc. - different but similar. As far as TV rules go (rec center usage, amenities, golf cart paths, ID cards, etc.) that is all the same anywhere in TV.

[mike barkley]

Just curious, what do you mean by "the rules"?

its not a complicated question

[Army Guy]

As Bryan has said, the rules or covs, have changed as TV has evolved. I think the rules have gotten better as they have gotten stricter. Less "wiggle" room to bring down a neighborhood or fights between neighbors.
Being 30+ years military, the wife and I believe in rules and following them to the letter. The only concern we have is, that they are enforced hit or miss and not like they should. Now before people jump on me, remember we all got a copy of them and had to sign that we read, understood, and will follow them, so it should be no surprizes. They were written to keep value up and a problem or inconv. to neighbors to a min.

Army Guy

[Ooper]

its not a complicated question

Well... a non-complicated answer is.. "Yes!"

[chuckster]

Too bad you can't reply to all those who took the time to answer a rather vague question with their thoughtful answers instead of singling out my earnest attempt at finding more specifics to your question.


Agree with ooper, yes! :beer3:

[mike barkley]

didnt mean to sound sarcastic. just looking for info! some gave it and some didnt.

[GatorFan]

What portion of the Villages in Lake County is actually in the City of Lady Lake? Also, what part will be in the City of Wildwood? I was under the impression that all of The Villages is either located in Marion, Sumter or Lake Coounty but not inside any city limits.

[JohnN]

Gator Fan, I think you're understanding is right.
The Villages is unincorporated and not covered by any of the city services.
The Villages does share a postal zip code, 32162, with Lady Lake, but that's about it.

[OpusX1]

I could be wrong but I think Spanish Springs is in Lady Lake. Also La Zamora too.

[graciegirl]

The Deed restrictions in the areas south of 466 prohibit any kind of statue, lawn accessory, birdbath, flower container etc.(except under your eaves line) unless preapproved by the architectural committee. Landscaping must be preapproved. You aren't supposed to allow privacy bushes to grow over six feet tall, and you cannot have fences of any kind. You cannot park a boat, motor home etc. in your driveway for more than 24 hours.

A little stricter than our development in Cincinnati, but I like it.

[springfield]

Before we perhaps move to TV, we want to know what we are agreeing to. We are about to sell our home but wouldn't want to make the big move if we find that TV is too restrictive. What sites can we go to educate ourselves? One question we have is what are the restrictions for children and grandchildren staying in TV and for how long.

Something else that bothered me was reading about yard ornaments. I do landscape design and have some beautiful yard art that I want to bring with us...no they aren't goofy pink flamingos.

Please help us before we perhaps make a big mistake and move to a place that wouldn't be right for us. Thanks

[bkcunningham1]

springfield, I'm supplying a link to The Villages (TV) Recreation Department's brochure. It outlines the rules for visitors and grandchildren. It also gives the web address for the Villages Community Development Districts (VCDD) website.

The VCDD is a wealth of information. It provides district maps, the covenants and declarations of restrictions for each of the areas within each district. If you aren't familiar with TV, IMHO, it may seem overwhelming because there is so much information and TV is a very large area within three counties. TV wasn't built over night. It has grown and changed for 20 plus years based on a community master plan developed by the original owner, much like Walt Disney did when he bought acres and acres of property to develop Disney World. Disney Resort has four theme parks, two water parks, 24 themed hotels, shopping, dining, entertainment and recreation venues now.

http://www.districtgov.org/images/RecGuide.pdf

[dillywho]

As Bryan has said, the rules or covs, have changed as TV has evolved. I think the rules have gotten better as they have gotten stricter. Less "wiggle" room to bring down a neighborhood or fights between neighbors.
Being 30+ years military, the wife and I believe in rules and following them to the letter. The only concern we have is, that they are enforced hit or miss and not like they should. Now before people jump on me, remember we all got a copy of them and had to sign that we read, understood, and will follow them, so it should be no surprizes. They were written to keep value up and a problem or inconv. to neighbors to a min.

Army Guy

I agree you, especially about the enforcement. There seems to be less enforcement when it comes to renters. We have a rental behind us and the enforcement is not the same as it is for us permanent residents. The ones just prior to the people in there now had flags, signs, ornaments....you name it...all over the place. Occasionally, deed compliance would send someone out to talk to them. Nothing ever changed. When they moved, the yard went "you-know-where" until I found out who the private property manager was and called her because the weeds and cinch bugs were getting in my yard. Now there are some people in there with a 2-year lease with 2 dogs that yap day and night....as early as 4:30 and as late as midnight. I love dogs, but not those. I realize that dogs bark (that's what dogs do), but they bark continuously. It's not their fault...it is their masters'. They have never taught them any different and think it's too late. Poor dogs...they never walk them, just still use puppy pads on the lanai. My husband has gone over some because he feels sorry for them never getting to go out and they let him walk them. I just wish someone would buy that house and live there, not rent it out...then it would change. Deed compliance doesn't get too concerned, either. Every neighbor has complained to no avail. Some have dogs themselves and do not allow theirs to bark continually.

[Army Guy]

Dilly, I would definitely call Deed Compliance, 352-751-3912/6719. Those dogs barking are a direct violation. It actually violates 2 things, the noise restriction and dog barking which are both listed in the cov as "finable". Keep on it. I have had to call several times about things till they took care of it. Remember the squeaky wheel gets the grease! And as I have pointed out in another thread. We ALL had to sign that we got the rules, etc. We have to follow them, so if they don't enforce them that is breach of a written contract on their part.
See I told you all I read and memorized the cov & rules!:angel:

Springfield, in answer to your question kids/grandkids, 30 total days per year per kid.

Army Guy

[zcaveman]

As stated above the deed restrictions have matured as the Villages added new villages and learned new lessons as technologies improved and what the Villagers want and don't want in their neighborhoods.

Go to http://www.districtgov.org/departments/community-standards/download.aspx

and you can look at the deed restrictions for all of the different areas.

But to answer your question, the deed restriction rules are NOT the same whether you are in a premier viilage or in the historic area. Go to the site above to see what the deed restriction rules are in each section.

[cmfjr]

As a potential TV resident and property owner, I would like to review the ordinances / bylaws / covenant that would apply to St Charles or that general area. Are they posted on the web and if so what would be the link. I've asked my sales rep and have not received a reply.
Thank you,

[bluedog103]

As Bryan has said, the rules or covs, have changed as TV has evolved. I think the rules have gotten better as they have gotten stricter. Less "wiggle" room to bring down a neighborhood or fights between neighbors.
Being 30+ years military, the wife and I believe in rules and following them to the letter. The only concern we have is, that they are enforced hit or miss and not like they should. Now before people jump on me, remember we all got a copy of them and had to sign that we read, understood, and will follow them, so it should be no surprizes. They were written to keep value up and a problem or inconv. to neighbors to a min.

Army Guy
Army Guy, I chuckle when I read your comments about rules and regs. In my Army days, rules were things we worked around. Only some of the lifers took a lot them seriously. We still got the job done and had a lot of fun. Remember the Colgate Tooth Powder and the underwear on the cardboard?
My apoligies for hijacking this thread.

[zcaveman]

As a potential TV resident and property owner, I would like to review the ordinances / bylaws / covenant that would apply to St Charles or that general area. Are they posted on the web and if so what would be the link. I've asked my sales rep and have not received a reply.
Thank you,

If you know the district and block number, you can go to Go to

http://www.districtgov.org/departmen.../download.aspx

and read it.

[downeaster]

Something else that bothered me was reading about yard ornaments. I do landscape design and have some beautiful yard art that I want to bring with us...no they aren't goofy pink flamingos.

Please help us before we perhaps make a big mistake and move to a place that wouldn't be right for us. Thanks

I think District 3 was the first to rule out lawn ornaments and that was built out about eight years ago. Since then the rule applies. The Developer corrected as he progressed. I suspect he saw some of the lawn ornaments were going way over board. If you were to drive through some of the older neighborhoods you would see what I mean.

You might consider buying in an older neighborhood where you would be free to design as you please.

I strongly advise you talk to someone in the district government before making any move. It sounds like the restrictions could be a deal breaker for you.

[Army Guy]

Blue dog, yes I do. Plus the salt pills in the summer, and green scrambled eggs! How about the old saying, "Smoke'em if you got 'em"!

That was the Army I came in with, it has changed so much.

Army Guy

[bluedog103]

Funny times. You just couldn't take a lot of that stuff seriously. I know it's much different now

[Army Guy]

Yes, it is, but so have the times.

Army Guy

[chacam]

I think District 3 was the first to rule out lawn ornaments and that was built out about eight years ago.

I think restrictions aren't district wide. In Summerhill in dist 3 no lawn ornaments allowed. In Polo Ridge, right next door, also in dist 3, some of the ornaments are ridiculous.

[zcaveman]

I think restrictions aren't district wide. In Summerhill in dist 3 no lawn ornaments allowed. In Polo Ridge, right next door, also in dist 3, some of the ornaments are ridiculous.

Actually, the declarations are not by district The declarations change as new villages are built. Summerhill actually followed the Marion county declarations since they were started after Marion county was started.

There are also villages in Glenview that have the same lawn ornament restrictions.

[chacam]

Actually, the declarations are not by district The declarations change as new villages are built. Summerhill actually followed the Marion county declarations since they were started after Marion county was started.

There are also villages in Glenview that have the same lawn ornament restrictions.

Glenview is a road and a Country Club. Did you mean Glenbrook (a village)?

[zcaveman]

Glenview is a road and a Country Club. Did you mean Glenbrook (a village)?

Glenbrook is correct. I always get the names backwards.

[gratton]

Gator Fan, I think you're understanding is right.
The Villages is unincorporated and not covered by any of the city services.
The Villages does share a postal zip code, 32162, with Lady Lake, but that's about it.

John N The portion of the villages that is in the city of Lady Lake is covered by City Services, I live in that portion and the city paved the streets, Trimmed trees that hung out in the road, When I had a tree that was causing a problem with the water line we had to contact the city of lady lake for a permit to cut it down, The lady lake police also patrol the streets here as well as lake county sheriffs department.

[downeaster]

I think restrictions aren't district wide. In Summerhill in dist 3 no lawn ornaments allowed. In Polo Ridge, right next door, also in dist 3, some of the ornaments are ridiculous.

I should have been more specific. Lawn ornaments were first ruled out during the build out of District 3. Belle Aire may have been the first village with those restrictions. That would mean most of District 3 would be open to lawn ornaments giving the original poster many resales to choose from.