Cosby guilty

[My Post]

Bill Cosby found guilty on all three counts.
Thoughts?

[billethkid]

We will now wait and see how justice treats the rich and famous sentencing!

[CFrance]

He seemed like such a good man back in the days of his tv show. Another role model falls/disappoints.

[My Post]

I agree. I know for a fact he did a ton of USO work over the years. Walter Reed, etc. Donated a lot of money. But of course, you can't be drugging women. Or anyone.

[Madelaine Amee]

We watched his programs and loved them. Never for one moment would have believed he was involved in something as repulsive as this. Surely, a man as famous and wealthy as him could have had all the sex he wanted without having to stoop to this level. From a female point of view, I cannot imagine a man wanting to have intimate relations with a drugged incapacitated body.

I see this in a very different light - race relations are bad enough, and to have a person of this stature brought down in such a way, just makes things worse and worse for people of color trying to survive in this world.

[My Post]

I can see that point Madelaine. A lot of African Americans, on twitter right now, are wondering why Harvey Weinstein, who has multiple credible rape accusations in multiple states, has not even been arrested yet. Bags of money passing around?

[NotGolfer]

I can see that point Madelaine. A lot of African Americans, on twitter right now, are wondering why Harvey Weinstein, who has multiple credible rape accusations in multiple states, has not even been arrested yet. Bags of money passing around?

BUT...there was O.J. Simpson who came across as a like-able individual. I HATE how everything gets politicized etc. Harvey Weinstein "will" get his one day...there's a court of a higer power after all.....one way or another. Sad that it hasn't already!!!

[600th Photo Sq]

Bill Cosby found guilty on all three counts.
Thoughts?

Excellent News !.....Finally " Allegedly " one word I absolutely cannot stand is now History in this case. :beer3:

[tomwed]

Excellent News !.....Finally " Allegedly " one word I absolutely cannot stand is now History in this case. :beer3:so they say

[karostay]

I'm Hollywood I can do anything Era has ended
HEY HEY HEY!

[retiredguy123]

I think that people who are assaulted should be required to report the incident within a reasonable time or shut up. And, if they accept money, they should abide by whatever agreement they signed. I understand that this woman received $3 million. I'm not saying that Cosby is not a bad guy, but where is the integrity of the so called victims? Why did they wait so long to report the assaults?

Stormy Daniels received money and agreed not to talk about her alleged affair with Trump. She breached that agreement big time. I was always taught to honor the agreements you make. There is too much greed and dishonesty in the world.

[Henryk]

I think that people who are assaulted should be required to report the incident within a reasonable time or shut up. And, if they accept money, they should abide by whatever agreement they signed. I understand that this women received $3 million. I'm not saying that Cosby is not a bad guy, but where is the integrity of the so called victims? There is too much greed and dishonesty.

Stormy Daniels received money and agreed not to talk about her alleged affair with Trump. She breached that agreement big time. I was always taught to honor the agreements you make. There is too much greed and dishonesty in the world.

Too much misogyny too, eh ?

“Integrity” of the victims??? Give me a break.

[ColdNoMore]

Too much misogyny too, eh ?

“Integrity” of the victims??? Give me a break.

I know...right? :oops:

[retiredguy123]

Too much misogyny too, eh ?

“Integrity” of the victims??? Give me a break.
Where were they when they could have prevented other victims? I understand there were about 60 victims.

[Topspinmo]

He'll probably die of old age before he spends 1 day in prison? Lawyers and money can delay for very long time. Course will be contested and claims he was mis represented.

[Topspinmo]

Too much misogyny too, eh ?

“Integrity” of the victims??? Give me a break.

Stormy a porn star, probably prostituted, and for sure gold digger, integrity is oxymoron used in same sentence.

[Taltarzac725]

When he lived near Reno, Nevada he had quite a reputation among the show girls there. I have seen posts by some people who used to work these nightclubs on Facebook. Someone to stay away from back then. His great reputation was a lot of marketing and the like. Of keeping that side of him really only known to people who are usually not listened to all that much.

Do not see a race angle in this. Karma got up with Bill Cosby. It will probably catch up to the others in time. A lot of this is just about $$$. Cosby was a cash cow for quite a lot of people for a while.

[manaboutown]

He'll probably die of old age before he spends 1 day in prison? Lawyers and money can delay for very long time. Course will be contested and claims he was mis represented.

:agree::cus::cus::cus:

[DonH57]

Hey, Hey, Hey !

[Taltarzac725]

Hey, Hey, Hey !

My late younger brother used to joke a lot about pudding pops and Bill Cosby. He was in Reno quite a bit longer
than I was and probably heard a lot of the rumors that were going around that town. Jell-O Pudding Pops Commercial with Bill Cosby '83 - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVIoBoFkoiM)

There were some casino show girls in my University of Nevada, Reno classes but I was a little too intimated by them to ever really talk to any on them. And they would not have brought up a topic like Bill Cosby, of course, in that kind of setting.

[graciegirl]

Too much misogyny too, eh ?

“Integrity” of the victims??? Give me a break.

I admit to being very very shocked by this. I think there is all kinda stuff that is wrong here including his wife standing by him after ALL this infidelity and proof he drugged women .

[Chatbrat]

A close friend of mine, whose wife was a super model-her professional name was Helen Selby, (she was the legs panty hose girl), appeared on the Cosby show once, when he tried to get her to drink in the dressing room-and she refused (she doesn't drink)- he told her to get off the set and she never made another appearance--people in Hollywood knew about him the same way they knew about Weinstein

we've been waiting for the hammer to drop

[vintageogauge]

When is sentencing scheduled, I could not find that in any of the news reports. I would like to see how fair the system is by knowing whether or not he will start serving time while appeals are under way. He deserves some jail time before he meets his maker for final judgement.

[Chatbrat]

House arrest, this way the tax payers wouldn't have to pay a dime--if he violates it--put him in the worst Pa prison, in general population

[tomwed]

Did you hear the story of Brad Pitt threatening Harvey Weinstein over Gweneth Paltro? I understand why a victim would be reluctant, afraid to come forward, intimidated, wrongly ashamed. Where were the other Brad Pitts in Hollywood or the entertainment business in general? How did they avoid the angry boyfriends, fathers or brothers of the victim?

[Henryk]

Where were they when they could have prevented other victims? I understand there were about 60 victims.

I think this is all about POWER. Victims feel unable to come forward. If it hasn’t happened to you, I don’t think you can understand.

[Henryk]

When is sentencing scheduled, I could not find that in any of the news reports. I would like to see how fair the system is by knowing whether or not he will start serving time while appeals are under way. He deserves some jail time before he meets his maker for final judgement.

Sentencing is to occur in 60-90 days. The delay makes zero sense to me. He should be in jail NOW.

[billethkid]

I suspect there is another category of those taken advantage of who are content to have "paid their dues" to get to where ever it was they were wanting to get.

[My Post]

A close friend of mine, whose wife was a super model-her professional name was Helen Selby, (she was the legs panty hose girl), appeared on the Cosby show once, when he tried to get her to drink in the dressing room-and she refused (she doesn't drink)- he told her to get off the set and she never made another appearance--people in Hollywood knew about him the same way they knew about Weinstein

we've been waiting for the hammer to drop

Interesting. Is she related to Forrest Gumpel? I kid, I kid.

Former Model Accuses Bill Cosby Of Unwanted Sexual Advances (https://www.buzzfeed.com/claudiakoerner/former-model-accuses-bill-cosby-of-unwanted-sexual-advances?utm_term=.oeA2xdGZb4#.pgJyj2Lv68)

[Chatbrat]

I considered her husband a "combat" buddy of mine and when they fell on hard times,I bought them a patio villa in the Village of Buttonwood, they have moved to another state where her husband can re-jump start his screen writing career

[Schaumburger]

I think this is all about POWER. Victims feel unable to come forward. If it hasn’t happened to you, I don’t think you can understand.

Thank you -- so true - this is all about power. The Golden Rule:
He who has the gold makes the rules.

Bill Cosby, once known as America's Dad, is now a convicted felon. Why would Mrs. Cosby stay with him now?

Hope Harvey Weinstein gets his day in court soon.

[fw102807]

Thank you -- so true - this is all about power. The Golden Rule:
He who has the gold makes the rules.

Bill Cosby, once known as America's Dad, is now a convicted felon. Why would Mrs. Cosby stay with him now?

Hope Harvey Weinstein gets his day in court soon.

Totally agree

[Taltarzac725]

Thank you -- so true - this is all about power. The Golden Rule:
He who has the gold makes the rules.

Bill Cosby, once known as America's Dad, is now a convicted felon. Why would Mrs. Cosby stay with him now?

Hope Harvey Weinstein gets his day in court soon.

My guess is that Weinstein still has quite a lot of clout in certain circles. His day of atonement will come.

[ColdNoMore]

Totally agree

Yep...me too! :thumbup:

[redwitch]

I really can’t believe that people today are still asking why the women didn’t come forward sooner. Sexual assault victims frequently feel helpless, ashamed, powerless. In the 70’s and even the 80’s, victims were blamed and rarely believed even when the assault was brutal. If you went to a man’s room, you were saying yes no matter how much you fought. And this was the case even if both the aggressor and victim were not famous. Now, imagine the male was well-known, even beloved by the populace, and you were drugged so there was no fight, no bruises .... Who would believe you? It is amazing they even found the courage to speak out when they did. Remember, Cosby was hung by his own words. He admitted under oath that he gave women Quaaludes without their consent or knowledge. Sadly for all of us who had admired him, he was and is a serial rapist. And, even more sadly, he has some pretty good arguments for appeal. There is a chance he will never spend a night in jail (a lot depends on if the judge stays execution of sentencing until the appeal is heard, which frequently occurs).

As to Stormy Daniels, her circumstances are entirely different. There was no assault, just an affair. It is obvious that this is a publicity stunt. She’ll make a lot more than the paltry $130,000 she was paid if she can get the agreement voided. She’ll make millions with interviews, book rights, a reality show or two, a possible movie, internet blogs, etc.

[Schaumburger]

I really can’t believe that people today are still asking why the women didn’t come forward sooner. Sexual assault victims frequently feel helpless, ashamed, powerless. In the 70’s and even the 80’s, victims were blamed and rarely believed even when the assault was brutal. If you went to a man’s room, you were saying yes no matter how much you fought. And this was the case even if both the aggressor and victim were not famous. Now, imagine the male was well-known, even beloved by the populace, and you were drugged so there was no fight, no bruises .... Who would believe you? It is amazing they even found the courage to speak out when they did. Remember, Cosby was hung by his own words. He admitted under oath that he gave women Quaaludes without their consent or knowledge. Sadly for all of us who had admired him, he was and is a serial rapist. And, even more sadly, he has some pretty good arguments for appeal. There is a chance he will never spend a night in jail (a lot depends on if the judge stays execution of sentencing until the appeal is heard, which frequently occurs).

As to Stormy Daniels, her circumstances are entirely different. There was no assault, just an affair. It is obvious that this is a publicity stunt. She’ll make a lot more than the paltry $130,000 she was paid if she can get the agreement voided. She’ll make millions with interviews, book rights, a reality show or two, a possible movie, internet blogs, etc.

Great post - thank you.

Why would Camille Cosby stay with her husband after this? Can she really believe he is innocent? I think there is a financial motive for her to stay with him. If he does go to jail, will she stand by him? Time will tell.

[redwitch]

I doubt guilt or innocence has anything to do with Camille staying with her husband. Ditto her financial situation. She could live quite comfortably on the divorce settlement/alimony. They’ve been together for a very long time. They suffered the loss of their only son. They celebrated daughters’ graduations, marriages, grandchildren. He hasn’t assaulted anyone for a long time. It may not be easy to forgive him and his behavior has to stick in her craw for the rest of her life but he is her husband. If I’m right about her values, she’ll stand by him even if he’s in prison. She’ll visit him at least once a month, probably weekly. She’ll make sure he has whatever comforts she can get him. He’s her husband and that’s that. She’s had the better. Now she’ll endure the worst.

Personally, he would have been out of the door at the first accusation that I believed (and his deposition left no doubt about what kind of man he is) but I’m not Mrs. C. I may very well have done a Bobbitt on him before kicking him out but, again, I’m not Mrs. C.

[Madelaine Amee]

I doubt guilt or innocence has anything to do with Camille staying with her husband. Ditto her financial situation. She could live quite comfortably on the divorce settlement/alimony. They’ve been together for a very long time. They suffered the loss of their only son. They celebrated daughters’ graduations, marriages, grandchildren. He hasn’t assaulted anyone for a long time. It may not be easy to forgive him and his behavior has to stick in her craw for the rest of her life but he is her husband. If I’m right about her values, she’ll stand by him even if he’s in prison. She’ll visit him at least once a month, probably weekly. She’ll make sure he has whatever comforts she can get him. He’s her husband and that’s that. She’s had the better. Now she’ll endure the worst.

Personally, he would have been out of the door at the first accusation that I believed (and his deposition left no doubt about what kind of man he is) but I’m not Mrs. C. I may very well have done a Bobbitt on him before kicking him out but, again, I’m not Mrs. C.

Redwitch your excellent writings always hit the mark for me.

As to why women will sell their souls for money, I have no idea, so alien to me and my way of thinking, but it has been going on since the beginning of time and will continue. With all the women who are willing to sell sex I cannot understand Cosby's need to drug and rape. As I said in an earlier post, you might just as well have sex with a cadaver. He must be a very disturbed character, but he fooled us all.

[ColdNoMore]

Redwitch your excellent writings always hit the mark for me.

As to why women will sell their souls for money, I have no idea, so alien to me and my way of thinking, but it has been going on since the beginning of time and will continue. With all the women who are willing to sell sex I cannot understand Cosby's need to drug and rape. As I said in an earlier post, you might just as well have sex with a cadaver. He must be a very disturbed character, but he fooled us all.

:agree:

[Schaumburger]

I doubt guilt or innocence has anything to do with Camille staying with her husband. Ditto her financial situation. She could live quite comfortably on the divorce settlement/alimony. They’ve been together for a very long time. They suffered the loss of their only son. They celebrated daughters’ graduations, marriages, grandchildren. He hasn’t assaulted anyone for a long time. It may not be easy to forgive him and his behavior has to stick in her craw for the rest of her life but he is her husband. If I’m right about her values, she’ll stand by him even if he’s in prison. She’ll visit him at least once a month, probably weekly. She’ll make sure he has whatever comforts she can get him. He’s her husband and that’s that. She’s had the better. Now she’ll endure the worst.

Personally, he would have been out of the door at the first accusation that I believed (and his deposition left no doubt about what kind of man he is) but I’m not Mrs. C. I may very well have done a Bobbitt on him before kicking him out but, again, I’m not Mrs. C.

:BigApplause:

[Schaumburger]

Redwitch your excellent writings always hit the mark for me.

As to why women will sell their souls for money, I have no idea, so alien to me and my way of thinking, but it has been going on since the beginning of time and will continue. With all the women who are willing to sell sex I cannot understand Cosby's need to drug and rape. As I said in an earlier post, you might just as well have sex with a cadaver. He must be a very disturbed character, but he fooled us all.

How true -- he did fool us all. Wonder if the "nostalgia" TV channels will stop showing reruns of the "The Cosby Show" now. That was a very good, positive show.

[Abby10]

Redwitch your excellent writings always hit the mark for me.

As to why women will sell their souls for money, I have no idea, so alien to me and my way of thinking, but it has been going on since the beginning of time and will continue. With all the women who are willing to sell sex I cannot understand Cosby's need to drug and rape. As I said in an earlier post, you might just as well have sex with a cadaver. He must be a very disturbed character, but he fooled us all.

Redwitch - always the voice of reason and fairness. Your posts were excellent and spot on.

Madelaine - to your point about the drugging which does seem strange, I think redwitch may have hit the nail on the head with her post regarding that. No struggle from the victim, no bruises, no proof in that regard......I had never thought of that.

[tomwed]

I kind of thought that I would separate comedy from life, because so many comedians have horrible lives, and they’re oftentimes people you don’t admire, or they’re not likable. And I didn’t want that to ruin my appreciation of their comedy. But I had to admit, as we discussed it, the more I thought about it, I couldn’t listen to [Cosby’s work] and enjoy it in the same way that I did before, and I was not able to separate it. So the wall kind of caved in. [Seinfeld on an on air conversation with Colbert]

for the entire read google
Jerry Seinfeld says he can no longer enjoy Bill Cosby's work, just a few years after everybody else

[fw102807]

Holy Moley Tomwed what did you do? Guess you fixed it, I got a whole page of code when I first saw it.

[Madelaine Amee]

Redwitch - always the voice of reason and fairness. Your posts were excellent and spot on.

Madelaine - to your point about the drugging which does seem strange, I think redwitch may have hit the nail on the head with her post regarding that. No struggle from the victim, no bruises, no proof in that regard......I had never thought of that.

Yes, thanks, good point - never thought about it like that, which appears to make him even more of a flawed character. He must have got this knowledge or idea from somewhere which makes me think this might have gone back to his college days!!! I suppose you could imagine a group of like minded young people sitting around and just throwing out "stuff".

[ColdNoMore]

I kind of thought that I would separate comedy from life, because so many comedians have horrible lives, and they’re oftentimes people you don’t admire, or they’re not likable. And I didn’t want that to ruin my appreciation of their comedy. But I had to admit, as we discussed it, the more I thought about it, I couldn’t listen to [Cosby’s work] and enjoy it in the same way that I did before, and I was not able to separate it. So the wall kind of caved in. [Seinfeld on an on air conversation with Colbert]

:agree: with Seinfeld.

But hey Tom, you really need to work on your URL copy/paste skills. :oops:

:1rotfl:

[tomwed]

oh brother---that never happened before
I cut and pasted my source and letters, numbers and symbols erupted.

[fw102807]

:agree: with Seinfeld.

But hey Tom, you really need to work on your URL copy/paste skills. :oops:

:1rotfl:

I second that.

[fw102807]

oh brother---that never happened before
I cut and pasted my source and letters, numbers and symbols erupted.

Before I paste a link I always paste it into a new tab in my browser to make sure it works.

[tomwed]

Before I paste a link I always paste it into a new tab in my browser to make sure it works.that's good advice---i tried deleting all that one line at a time and was getting nowhere---so i copied the paragraph, did ctrl a, backspace, ctrl v---and moved on

I mention this because a couple of old school shortcuts work on the chromebook too and are worth learning.

[fw102807]

that's good advice---i tried deleting all that one line at a time and was getting nowhere---so i copied the paragraph, did ctrl a, backspace, ctrl v---and moved on

I mention this because a couple of old school shortcuts work on the chromebook too and are worth learning.

I still use DOS commands all the time.

[tomwed]

For a couple of minutes I thought I broke the internet. whew

[ColdNoMore]

For a couple of minutes I thought I broke the internet. whew

I got carpal tunnel syndrome...just scrolling to the bottom of your post. :1rotfl:

[Polar Bear]

Edit an unwanted post and just "Select all" of the content. Then delete. Should take care of such unfortunate accidents. :)