Traffic speeds ever increasing!!

[billethkid]

Once upon a time one would see speed traps set up in various locations around TV.
This past year it has been very obvious there have been significantly fewer/none.
As a result the speeds on the roadways have continued to increase....in many areas by more than 10 mph.

I have maintained in the past and still maintain there should be a separate unit of law enforcement that does nothing but enforce traffic laws. The unit(s) would be self funding via ticket revenues.

We all know enforcement works. School zones....our favorite little towns notorious for notorious speed traps, etc.

Why?

ENFORCEMENT!! Very lacking throughout TV.

The traffic violations and numerous (per day) accidents/near misses are the single most negative aspect of TV life style. NO ENFORCEMENT!

[photo1902]

Once upon a time one would see speed traps set up in various locations around TV.
This past year it has been very obvious there have been significantly fewer/none.
As a result the speeds on the roadways have continued to increase....in many areas by more than 10 mph.

I have maintained in the past and still maintain there should be a separate unit of law enforcement that does nothing but enforce traffic laws. The unit(s) would be self funding via ticket revenues.

We all know enforcement works. School zones....our favorite little towns notorious for notorious speed traps, etc.

Why?

ENFORCEMENT!! Very lacking throughout TV.

The traffic violations and numerous (per day) accidents/near misses are the single most negative aspect of TV life style. NO ENFORCEMENT!

In the past week I have seen Sumter County Deputies working radar on Morse, Buena Vista, and from a postal station lot on Woodridge Drive. Just because you don't see them, it doesn't mean they aren't out there.

[billethkid]

In the past week I have seen Sumter County Deputies working radar on Morse, Buena Vista, and from a postal station lot on Woodridge Drive. Just because you don't see them, it doesn't mean they aren't out there.

No inference to whether they are "out there" or not.
The point is there is significantly less traffic enforcement than in the past. And there should be many, MANY more traps!
In my humble opinion.

[DonH57]

No inference to whether they are "out there" or not.
The point is there is significantly less traffic enforcement than in the past. And there should be many, MANY more traps!
In my humble opinion.

I agree with you. In the past 5 years we've lived here I've seen a big difference in LEO prescence here in the villages and ever increasing speeding.

[photo1902]

No inference to whether they are "out there" or not.
The point is there is significantly less traffic enforcement than in the past. And there should be many, MANY more traps!
In my humble opinion.

My point simply being I've personally observed three "traps" in a 7 day period. Seems like a good amount to me.

[pauld315]

I have maintained in the past and still maintain there should be a separate unit of law enforcement that does nothing but enforce traffic laws. The unit(s) would be self funding via ticket revenues.

We all know enforcement works. School zones....our favorite little towns notorious for notorious speed traps, etc.



If you are speaking of the speed traps Waldo used to have, I am sure you know they disbanded the police force there altogether after the state started an investigation into the number of tickets they were handing out (12000 a year).

[BobnBev]

Once upon a time one would see speed traps set up in various locations around TV.
This past year it has been very obvious there have been significantly fewer/none.
As a result the speeds on the roadways have continued to increase....in many areas by more than 10 mph.

I have maintained in the past and still maintain there should be a separate unit of law enforcement that does nothing but enforce traffic laws. The unit(s) would be self funding via ticket revenues.

We all know enforcement works. School zones....our favorite little towns notorious for notorious speed traps, etc.

Why?

ENFORCEMENT!! Very lacking throughout TV.

The traffic violations and numerous (per day) accidents/near misses are the single most negative aspect of TV life style. NO ENFORCEMENT!

:mademyday::clap2::BigApplause::BigApplause:

[raynan]

I agree, the speed limits are just being ignored especially in golf carts. Would someone please set a trap on Bailey Trail and pull over golf carts. We have a speedometer and we do 20. The governor will kick in and slow us down at 20.8 on a downhill and we're lucky to get 19 uphill near Cane Garden. Carts are going past us like we're sitting still. No turn signals are being used or if they are, are not being shut off so you don't know if they're going to turn or not. We have seen several close calls at intersections and carts making turns on 2 wheels. Slow down folks! Nothing is that important to put lives in danger. The carts are not toys.

[TNLAKEPANDA]

I am fed up with the high speeds on Powell Rd between 44a and 466a. The limit is 35 mph but most all traffic goes 50-55mph. Trucks are the worst offenders. Complaints to the city and county have done nothing.

[karostay]

Once upon a time one would see speed traps set up in various locations around TV.
This past year it has been very obvious there have been significantly fewer/none.
As a result the speeds on the roadways have continued to increase....in many areas by more than 10 mph.

I have maintained in the past and still maintain there should be a separate unit of law enforcement that does nothing but enforce traffic laws. The unit(s) would be self funding via ticket revenues.

We all know enforcement works. School zones....our favorite little towns notorious for notorious speed traps, etc.

Why?

ENFORCEMENT!! Very lacking throughout TV.

The traffic violations and numerous (per day) accidents/near misses are the single most negative aspect of TV life style. NO ENFORCEMENT!


:BigApplause::BigApplause:

100% agree if done on a national level
They could wipe out the national debt

Driving isn't fun any longer

[vintageogauge]

I am fed up with the high speeds on Powell Rd between 44a and 466a. The limit is 35 mph but most all traffic goes 50-55mph. Trucks are the worst offenders. Complaints to the city and county have done nothing.

I see the radar units set up on that section of Powell on a regular basis, that is one area where I set my cruise at 37 as I know they're watching it. I would say I see at least one if not more radar cars every day, not so much on Morse, I don't know that I ever saw one on Morse, but on the other roads I travel. People that go too fast will eventually get caught or get in an accident, hopefully one that does not cause injuries. It's like that everywhere. I would also like to mention that people going 25 in a 45 MPH zone are just as dangerous as those going 55.

[Topspinmo]

Be careful what you wish for? Usually the baddest offenders escape. 35 mph speed limit on portions of BV and 'MB BS anyway. Set so the LSVs can speed 30 to 40 MPH Down them. Few go 35 down BV and portions of MB. I got passed by cart in golf cart lane on BT in my car and I was going 30MPH with line behind me. IMO any looping trail you see this same thing, speeding. What we need are some more motorcycle cops. What do the got 2? Also need meter maids around the square ticket all the illegal parking, traffic violations, and drunks. Then, they can move on to diamond lane illegal parked cars, outrageous golf cart speeders.

[dillywho]

Unfortunately, when they do write speeding citations, so many get on here complaining as to "why they are not out there catching 'real' criminals". No win situation for them.:doh: Anyone in that big of a hurry just needs to leave earlier or not schedule every activity for the same day.

[Fredster]

I’m up north now, and lots of people
speed around here to!
I wonder sometimes if the traffic is too fast,
or I’m slowing down! :confused: Just a thought.

[asianthree]

LEO could sit on any street at 6am and ticket at least 40 lawn companies and biggest offender the garage trucks

[ColdNoMore]

LEO could sit on any street at 6am and ticket at least 40 lawn companies and biggest offender the garage trucks

Yep! :mad:

[patfla06]

I am fed up with the high speeds on Powell Rd between 44a and 466a. The limit is 35 mph but most all traffic goes 50-55mph. Trucks are the worst offenders. Complaints to the city and county have done nothing.

Unfortunately, when they do write speeding citations, so many get on here complaining as to "why they are not out there catching 'real' criminals". No win situation for them.:doh: Anyone in that big of a hurry just needs to leave earlier or not schedule every activity for the same day.

Well said!

[patfla06]

Pinellas Place has so many golf carts doing 30+ that
it is now more the norm.

[biker1]

I drive along there all the time and there are a lot of carts doing 20-25. 30+ the norm? No.

Pinellas Place has so many golf carts doing 30+ that
it is now more the norm.

[Rango]

The last quarter of 2017, over 1,100 speeding violations were issued in The Villages.

[Polar Bear]

I drive along there all the time and there are a lot of carts doing 20-25. 30+ the norm? No.
Agree.

20-25 common. 30+ not at all. In fact, from my experience 30+ is rare.

[TimeForChange]

We purchased our first home in Village of Charlotte in 2012. There were 20MPH speed signs on every street. Still people speeded on golf carts and in cars. Contractor trucks pulling trailers were the worst. We moved to La Belle North almost two years ago. There are NO speed limit signs on our neighborhood streets. There are signs on Moyer Loop. I called Sumter County several months ago and they said that a survey was done and TV did not feel 20 MPH speed limit signs were necessary since they had one at each entrance. We have golf carts and cars and contractor trucks going up to 35 MPH on the neighborhood streets. If people speed when there are posted speed limit signs then what do we think they will do with no speed limit signs? I would say there are very few new residents in any of the new villages that know the max speed on streets with homes is 20MPH!

[spring_chicken]

BREAKING NEWS: People in The Villages break traffic laws. As do millions of people on every county, state, and federal road in the United States millions of times per day.

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[perrjojo]

We purchased our first home in Village of Charlotte in 2012. There were 20MPH speed signs on every street. Still people speeded on golf carts and in cars. Contractor trucks pulling trailers were the worst. We moved to La Belle North almost two years ago. There are NO speed limit signs on our neighborhood streets. There are signs on Moyer Loop. I called Sumter County several months ago and they said that a survey was done and TV did not feel 20 MPH speed limit signs were necessary since they had one at each entrance. We have golf carts and cars and contractor trucks going up to 35 MPH on the neighborhood streets. If people speed when there are posted speed limit signs then what do we think they will do with no speed limit signs? I would say there are very few new residents in any of the new villages that know the max speed on streets with homes is 20MPH!

Max speed on Villa streets is 10mph. Never see a car go that slow

[Chatbrat]

In Fl you can only get a speeding ticket for car/truck when you exceed the speed limit by more than 5 mph--a golf car going more than 20 mph, the ticket is not for speeding--its for having an unregistered vehicle+ a bunch of other items

[ColdNoMore]

I thought the max speeds in our 'faux gated' neighborhoods...was 25 mph. :shrug:

[Polar Bear]

BREAKING NEWS: People in The Villages break traffic laws. As do millions of people on every county, state, and federal road in the United States millions of times per day...
Pretty much says it all.

[ColdNoMore]

Pretty much says it all.

I always drive the speed limit...inside the gates of any village.

Albeit...usually in the left lane.



:1rotfl:

[8notes]

I'd rather see tickets given out to drivers who disregard the rules in roundabouts. I'd be willing to bet there are more accidents and near misses due to people cutting in front of others illegally from the wrong lane, than from people going 5 or 10 mph over the speed limit. I was going straight the other day and someone did a right turn from the left lane, in front of me, and I barely slammed my brakes on in time. What is the matter with people? Are they that stupid they don't know the rules, or are they just inconsiderate or in la la land?

[Bogie Shooter]

We purchased our first home in Village of Charlotte in 2012. There were 20MPH speed signs on every street. Still people speeded on golf carts and in cars. Contractor trucks pulling trailers were the worst. We moved to La Belle North almost two years ago. There are NO speed limit signs on our neighborhood streets. There are signs on Moyer Loop. I called Sumter County several months ago and they said that a survey was done and TV did not feel 20 MPH speed limit signs were necessary since they had one at each entrance. We have golf carts and cars and contractor trucks going up to 35 MPH on the neighborhood streets. If people speed when there are posted speed limit signs then what do we think they will do with no speed limit signs? I would say there are very few new residents in any of the new villages that know the max speed on streets with homes is 20MPH!

I thought the max speeds in our 'faux gated' neighborhoods...was 25 mph. :shrug:

See, you were right, most don’t know.

[Mikeod]

I thought the max speeds in our 'faux gated' neighborhoods...was 25 mph. :shrug:

Actually, the signs at the entrances from Lake and Marion counties indicate the limit, unless otherwise posted, within TV is 20. That’s likely why they no longer put the signs on many individual streets.

[Polar Bear]

...I'd rather see tickets given out to drivers who disregard the rules in roundabouts...I was going straight the other day and someone did a right turn from the left lane, in front of me, and I barely slammed my brakes on in time. What is the matter with people? Are they that stupid they don't know the rules, or are they just inconsiderate or in la la land?
Was this at a roundabout? If so, it sounds like you were the one making a mistake. People making a left turn at a roundabout do exit the roundabout from the left lane. Traffic approaching the roundabout must yield.

[GoodLife]

My advice, move to Nancy Lopez area, north of 466, we don't have traffic problems here.

[BobnBev]

Was this at a roundabout? If so, it sounds like you were the one making a mistake. People making a left turn at a roundabout do exit the roundabout from the left lane. Traffic approaching the roundabout must yield.

Did you even really read the post?????????????:boom:

[VApeople]

I was going straight the other day and someone did a right turn from the left lane, in front of me, and I barely slammed my brakes on in time.

I guess no one had told you that it is OK to turn right from the left lane in a roundabout.

Well anyway, you seem to have learned the lesson on your own. If you are in the right lane, you should always expect the person in the left lane to turn right in front of you. It happens to me all the time.

[Polar Bear]

Did you even really read the post?????????????:boom:
Yes. I did. Either you didn’t Or you don’t have a clue about roundabout rules.

Which is it?????????????:boom:

[ColdNoMore]

Yes. I did. Either you didn’t Or you don’t have a clue about roundabout rules.

Which is it?????????????:boom:

:boom:


:boom:


:D

[BobnBev]

Was this at a roundabout? If so, it sounds like you were the one making a mistake. People making a left turn at a roundabout do exit the roundabout from the left lane. Traffic approaching the roundabout must yield.

Yes. I did. Either you didn’t Or you don’t have a clue about roundabout rules.

Which is it?????????????:boom:

No sense in trying to explain it to you. R/b traffic moves in a counter-clockwise direction. When you enter a r/b you are making continuous right turns to exit the r/b. Check the signage if you care too
:boom:
:boom:
:boom:

[pqrstar]

No sense in trying to explain it to you. R/b traffic moves in a counter-clockwise direction. When you enter a r/b you are making continuous right turns to exit the r/b. Check the signage if you care too . . .

Here is the pamphlet provided by Sumter County.
http://www.districtgov.org/community/Roundabout-02-08-12.pdf

It explains that if you are going half way around, you have the choice of entering into the outside lane and exiting via the outside lane, OR entering ino the inside lane and exiting via the inside lane.

If you are going 3/4 the way around, you must enter from the inside lane and exit from the inside lane.

NEVER CHANGE LANES IN THE TRAFFIC CIRCLE.

ALL TRAFFIC entering into the traffic circles must YIELD to BOTH lanes inside the traffic circle.

[pqrstar]

No sense in trying to explain it to you. R/b traffic moves in a counter-clockwise direction. When you enter a r/b you are making continuous right turns to exit the r/b. Check the signage if you care too

Some people refer to a traffic circle as an intersection.

Thus the 1st exit is the same as making a right hand turn and you would be in the right lane to do so.

The 2nd exit is the same as going straight and continuing on the same road way. Thus if you have 2 lanes, both could go straight with each lane exiting from the same lane in which they entered.

The 3rd exit is the same as making a left turn. So you would need to enter in the inside lane, just as you would at a regular intersection. You would also exit from the inside lane. You never change lanes while inside a traffic circle.

ALL ENTERING TRAFFIC HAVE A YIELD SIGN and MUST YIELD TO ALL CARS THAT ARE ALREADY IN THE TRAFFIC CIRCLE.

This explains how a person makes a left hand turn inside a traffic circle. (It is by using the 3rd exit from which you entered the circle)

So, yes, YOU ARE CORRECT about continuous right turns, It is just that you need to enter AND exit in the proper lane according to the exit you plan to use.

[CFrance]

Some people refer to a traffic circle as an intersection.

Thus the 1st exit is the same as making a right hand turn and you would be in the right lane to do so.

The 2nd exit is the same as going straight and continuing on the same road way. Thus of you have 2 lanes, both could go straight with each lane exiting from the same lane in which they entered.

The 3rd exit is the same as making a left turn. So you would need to be in the inside lane, just as you would at a regular intersection. You would exit from the inside lane.

ALL ENTERING TRAFFIC HAVE A YIELD SIGN and MUST YIELD TO YOU.

This explains how a person makes a left hand turn inside a traffic circle. (It by using the 3rd exit from which you entered the circle)

So, yes, YOU ARE CORRECT about continuous right turns, It is just that you need to enter AND exit in the proper lane according to the exit you plan to use.
This is the easiest way to understand a roundabout, and which lane you should be using to do what.

[8notes]

I guess no one had told you that it is OK to turn right from the left lane in a roundabout.

Well anyway, you seem to have learned the lesson on your own. If you are in the right lane, you should always expect the person in the left lane to turn right in front of you. It happens to me all the time.

I assume you are joking.

[retiredguy123]

:BigApplause::BigApplause:

100% agree if done on a national level
They could wipe out the national debt

Driving isn't fun any longer
To wipe out the national debt, you would need to collect about $66,000 from every person in the country, even those who don't drive.

[8notes]

Some people refer to a traffic circle as an intersection.

Thus the 1st exit is the same as making a right hand turn and you would be in the right lane to do so.

The 2nd exit is the same as going straight and continuing on the same road way. Thus of you have 2 lanes, both could go straight with each lane exiting from the same lane in which they entered.

The 3rd exit is the same as making a left turn. So you would need to be in the inside lane, just as you would at a regular intersection. You would exit from the inside lane.

ALL ENTERING TRAFFIC HAVE A YIELD SIGN and MUST YIELD TO YOU.

This explains how a person makes a left hand turn inside a traffic circle. (It by using the 3rd exit from which you entered the circle)

So, yes, YOU ARE CORRECT about continuous right turns, It is just that you need to enter AND exit in the proper lane according to the exit you plan to use.

Thank you! Finally, someone who understands the rules. Great explanation. If only people could understand this and put it into practice.

[photo1902]

I assume you are joking.

No joke. Perfectly legal. Read the pamphlet another user posted if you’re confused.

[Polar Bear]

No sense in trying to explain it to you....
You're absolutely right...you won't be able to explain your position.

Read the multiple posts correcting your incorrect assertions.

[VApeople]

I guess no one had told you that it is OK to turn right from the left lane in a roundabout.

Well anyway, you seem to have learned the lesson on your own. If you are in the right lane, you should always expect the person in the left lane to turn right in front of you. It happens to me all the time.

I assume you are joking.

As you gain more experience driving in our roundabouts, you will learn that I am not joking at all.

[golfing eagles]

As much as I hate to agree with PB, he (and pqr and photo) are 100% correct. The "exiting" from the left lane is all relative to where you entered and where you exit----the only time it is "wrong" is when you plan on exiting at the first 90 degree exit--in which case you should be in the right lane. But the most important point---the one that makes it all work---is that NO ONE SHOULD ENTER A RB WHEN THERE IS ONCOMING TRAFFIC IN EITHER LANE. YIELD MEANS YIELD!!! To do otherwise is just a set up for an unscheduled meeting of vehicles.

[l2ridehd]

Two points.

If you make speeding self funding and paid for by ticket collections, you will end up with another Waldo right here in The Villages. Every time LEO are given quotas for tickets, it's a self fulfilling prophesy. Not a good plan at all. I also have seen several speed traps recently so watch out for them, they are out there.

Roundabouts.

They are nothing more then a traffic light replacement. Pretend your at 466 and Buena Vista. If you wanted to turn right, you would be in the right lane before you got to the light. If you wanted to turn left, you would be in the left lane before you got to the light. If you were going straight through either lane works. And you would always yield to a vehicle already in the intersection. Treat any traffic circle exactly the same.

Those that enter on the right and go 3/4 the way around are breaking the law just as you would be if you approached a traffic light in the right lane and made a left turn. It's called reckless driving and you can and should be ticketed for it. If you cause an accident by someone going straight through and you hit them when they turn in front of you because you are in the right lane going 3/4 the way around, you are at fault.

[golfing eagles]

Roundabouts.

They are nothing more then a traffic light replacement. Pretend your at 466 and Buena Vista. If you wanted to turn right, you would be in the right lane before you got to the light. If you wanted to turn left, you would be in the left lane before you got to the light. If you were going straight through either lane works. And you would always yield to a vehicle already in the intersection. Treat any traffic circle exactly the same.

Those that enter on the right and go 3/4 the way around are breaking the law just as you would be if you approached a traffic light in the right lane and made a left turn. It's called reckless driving and you can and should be ticketed for it. If you cause an accident by someone going straight through and you hit them when they turn in front of you because you are in the right lane going 3/4 the way around, you are at fault.

Or even 1/2 way around. Of course that means you probably entered the RB as the car in the left lane was approaching, WHICH YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE DONE IN THE FIRST PLACE

[Polar Bear]

...the most important point---the one that makes it all work---is that NO ONE SHOULD ENTER A RB WHEN THERE IS ONCOMING TRAFFIC IN EITHER LANE. YIELD MEANS YIELD!!! To do otherwise is just a set up for an unscheduled meeting of vehicles.
Pretty much says it all.

As much as I hate to agree with PB...
I feel your pain, ge. :)

[golfing eagles]

I am fed up with the high speeds on Powell Rd between 44a and 466a. The limit is 35 mph but most all traffic goes 50-55mph. Trucks are the worst offenders. Complaints to the city and county have done nothing.

Not saying that I agree or disagree, but just to play devil's advocate.....
What possible difference could it possibly make to you if you are obeying the speed limit and someone passes you going 50? Unless they are impaired or distracted, they are most likely a much better driver than a clown going 25 in the left lane. And this bothered you enough that you complained to the city? Do you fancy yourself an auxiliary LEO?

Just sayin'(as devil's advocate)

[Lindaketchup]

BREAKING NEWS: People in The Villages break traffic laws. As do millions of people on every county, state, and federal road in the United States millions of times per day.

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[Topspinmo]

I'd rather see tickets given out to drivers who disregard the rules in roundabouts. I'd be willing to bet there are more accidents and near misses due to people cutting in front of others illegally from the wrong lane, than from people going 5 or 10 mph over the speed limit. I was going straight the other day and someone did a right turn from the left lane, in front of me, and I barely slammed my brakes on in time. What is the matter with people? Are they that stupid they don't know the rules, or are they just inconsiderate or in la la land?


If you look at the arrows left laner can exit the roundabout at the second, third and 4th exit if they desire to to all way Around. If you was behind some one in the right lane and YOU didnt exit at the first exit. YOU have to yield cause the car to your left has the right away even if he's beside you. You hit him and you will get the ticket.

A friend was in almost same position as you except she was ahead of the left Lanier and at the second exit she got hit at the rear side and ticketed. If you look at the arrows RIGHT lanier must exit at the first exit to have the right away, other wise you half to yield cause you are exiting at the second exit or yield. ( which means you only have the right way at the first exit if cars beside you or slightly ahead of you.)

Even it you enter the round about with traffic in the round about you have to yield (which shouldn't be entering rouandabout when traffic in it and that means coming Around, if they don't have blinker light on that means they are coming around or the Are DSs that don't use blinkers lights.


That's what causes accidents, people can't follow the signs or arrow directed signs.

[tomwed]

Fast forward to 4 min 30 seconds. The creator did a pretty good job of explaining our round about signs.
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[Topspinmo]

That wasn't frost? It was hard freeze for several days. You could see how old or tall some of those tropical plants were. So the hard freeze not common. This last winter froze stuff as far down as north Miami. IMO 301 pretty dangerous. Right on the mark on the roundabouts.

[Bogie Shooter]

Can we please switch over to dog poop debate.:pepper2:,

[Topspinmo]

Can we please switch over to dog poop debate.:pepper2:,

O come you know a roundabout thread is way better than dog poop thread.

[VApeople]

----the only time it is "wrong" is when you plan on exiting at the first 90 degree exit--in which case you should be in the right lane.

Of course, you are correct.

However, I recently came up to a roundabout in the right lane and another car came up beside me in the left lane. We both stopped to let a car in the roundabout pass by.

Then we started to advance. All of a sudden, the guy in the left lane cut in front of me to turn right at the first exit. I was surprised and I let him go.

Since then it has happened three more times to me. Now, when I am in the right lane, I really keep an eye on the person in the left lane.

[Daddymac]

BREAKING NEWS: People in The Villages break traffic laws. As do millions of people on every county, state, and federal road in the United States millions of times per day.

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Hahahahaha :pepper2: :a040:

[ColdNoMore]

No sense in trying to explain it to you. R/b traffic moves in a counter-clockwise direction. When you enter a r/b you are making continuous right turns to exit the r/b. Check the signage if you care too

Here is the pamphlet provided by Sumter County.
http://www.districtgov.org/community/Roundabout-02-08-12.pdf

It explains that if you are going half way around, you have the choice of entering into the outside lane and exiting via the outside lane, OR entering ino the inside lane and exiting via the inside lane.

If you are going 3/4 the way around, you must enter from the inside lane and exit from the inside lane.

NEVER CHANGE LANES IN THE TRAFFIC CIRCLE.

ALL TRAFFIC entering into the traffic circles must YIELD to BOTH lanes inside the traffic circle.

Some people refer to a traffic circle as an intersection.

Thus the 1st exit is the same as making a right hand turn and you would be in the right lane to do so.

The 2nd exit is the same as going straight and continuing on the same road way. Thus if you have 2 lanes, both could go straight with each lane exiting from the same lane in which they entered.

The 3rd exit is the same as making a left turn. So you would need to enter in the inside lane, just as you would at a regular intersection. You would also exit from the inside lane. You never change lanes while inside a traffic circle.

ALL ENTERING TRAFFIC HAVE A YIELD SIGN and MUST YIELD TO ALL CARS THAT ARE ALREADY IN THE TRAFFIC CIRCLE.

This explains how a person makes a left hand turn inside a traffic circle. (It is by using the 3rd exit from which you entered the circle)

So, yes, YOU ARE CORRECT about continuous right turns, It is just that you need to enter AND exit in the proper lane according to the exit you plan to use.

As much as I hate to agree with PB, he (and pqr and photo) are 100% correct. The "exiting" from the left lane is all relative to where you entered and where you exit----the only time it is "wrong" is when you plan on exiting at the first 90 degree exit--in which case you should be in the right lane. But the most important point---the one that makes it all work---is that NO ONE SHOULD ENTER A RB WHEN THERE IS ONCOMING TRAFFIC IN EITHER LANE. YIELD MEANS YIELD!!! To do otherwise is just a set up for an unscheduled meeting of vehicles.

Or even 1/2 way around. Of course that means you probably entered the RB as the car in the left lane was approaching, WHICH YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE DONE IN THE FIRST PLACE

If you look at the arrows left laner can exit the roundabout at the second, third and 4th exit if they desire to to all way Around. If you was behind some one in the right lane and YOU didnt exit at the first exit. YOU have to yield cause the car to your left has the right away even if he's beside you. You hit him and you will get the ticket.

A friend was in almost same position as you except she was ahead of the left Lanier and at the second exit she got hit at the rear side and ticketed. If you look at the arrows RIGHT lanier must exit at the first exit to have the right away, other wise you half to yield cause you are exiting at the second exit or yield. ( which means you only have the right way at the first exit if cars beside you or slightly ahead of you.)

Even it you enter the round about with traffic in the round about you have to yield (which shouldn't be entering rouandabout when traffic in it and that means coming Around, if they don't have blinker light on that means they are coming around or the Are DSs that don't use blinkers lights.


That's what causes accidents, people can't follow the signs or arrow directed signs.


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[golfing eagles]

Of course, you are correct.

However, I recently came up to a roundabout in the right lane and another car came up beside me in the left lane. We both stopped to let a car in the roundabout pass by.

Then we started to advance. All of a sudden, the guy in the left lane cut in front of me to turn right at the first exit. I was surprised and I let him go.

Since then it has happened three more times to me. Now, when I am in the right lane, I really keep an eye on the person in the left lane.

Rule 1: Always expect the other driver to do the most idiotic thing imaginable

Rule 2: I always adjust my speed in a RB so as to never be next to another vehicle

[8notes]

Of course, you are correct.

However, I recently came up to a roundabout in the right lane and another car came up beside me in the left lane. We both stopped to let a car in the roundabout pass by.

Then we started to advance. All of a sudden, the guy in the left lane cut in front of me to turn right at the first exit. I was surprised and I let him go.

Since then it has happened three more times to me. Now, when I am in the right lane, I really keep an eye on the person in the left lane.

My point exactly. What kind of idiot turns right from the left lane, cutting in front of the right lane of traffic to do so? Should be given a ticket.

[Polar Bear]

My point exactly. What kind of idiot turns right from the left lane, cutting in front of the right lane of traffic to do so? Should be given a ticket.
After entering the roundabout, taking the first exit from the left lane is not proper. Taking the second or third exit from the left lane is perfectly fine.

[ColdNoMore]

After entering the roundabout, taking the first exit from the left lane is not proper. Taking the second or third exit from the left lane is perfectly fine.

Exactly!

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/1538241-post1.html

Why is it so hard for some people...to understand that? :oops:

[Topspinmo]

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A am amazed that I agree with-- I agree with 4 lane roundabouts the navigation directionally signs should be standard like the one in the bottom or the many arrow lane sign before most roundabouts. Why they have the tops ones I'm stumped???:undecided: I know that's hard to believe!

[Topspinmo]

My point exactly. What kind of idiot turns right from the left lane, cutting in front of the right lane of traffic to do so? Should be given a ticket.

IMO that scenario rare? Really takes a DA to exit right in the left lane at first exit after entering roundabout. The rules and law clearly states right lane done not have right away to go straight after the first exit in roundabout.

[EviesGP]

And this Thread has gone on thru 7 pages??? Where do I go to get a life???

[ColdNoMore]

And this Thread has gone on thru 7 pages??? Where do I go to get a life???

Anywhere you would like.

The beauty of the way this whole thing works, is that you can even choose...not to read the posts in this thread. :thumbup:

[Topspinmo]

And this Thread has gone on thru 7 pages??? Where do I go to get a life???

I guess nowhere cause you're here reading all of it;)

[OhioBuckeye]

I agree, the speed limits are just being ignored especially in golf carts. Would someone please set a trap on Bailey Trail and pull over golf carts. We have a speedometer and we do 20. The governor will kick in and slow us down at 20.8 on a downhill and we're lucky to get 19 uphill near Cane Garden. Carts are going past us like we're sitting still. No turn signals are being used or if they are, are not being shut off so you don't know if they're going to turn or not. We have seen several close calls at intersections and carts making turns on 2 wheels. Slow down folks! Nothing is that important to put lives in danger. The carts are not toys.

I agree,my golf cart will run 20 mph. I think every golf cart that has ever followed me has passed me when I'm going 20 mph. Some of these golf carts will pass me going over 25 mph. Since I've lived here as a resident for 6 yrs. I've only seen 3 golf carts pulled over. People must set their own governor what they want it to run. Everytime I get something done to my cart at the dealer, they want me to sign a paper saying I'll let me reset or check my cart to see if it only runs 20 mph. Everytime I get it back it always runs slower. Personally I don't think it really does any good to have speed laws on carts that they don't even enforce. Also I don't think people on carts know what a STOP sign is, nobody stops, they slow down & go right on thru the sign. I'm surprise someone hasn't gotten T boned at one of the tunnels yet. People leave there turn signals on & people at the tunnel exit assume these people are going to turn. It was a bad design for the cart manufacturers not to put automatic disengaged turn signals on carts.

[IndianaJones]

O come you know a roundabout thread is way better than dog poop thread.

Maybe we need a thread about people who let their dogs poop in the roundabout??? Just sayin, let's cover all the bases!:D

[justjim]

No inference to whether they are "out there" or not.
The point is there is significantly less traffic enforcement than in the past. And there should be many, MANY more traps!
In my humble opinion.

OP, someone once told me, “careful what you wish for”.

[FromNY]

I have seen Village vehicles on Buena Vista doing way over 35miles an hour. So if Community Watch, Trollly, and Village airport vans cannot follow the law why should anyone? Sad world.

[UHH47]

I am a advocate of driving the speed limit in The Villages. I question why Powell Rd has a 35 mile speed limit. A 4 lane divided highway with very low volume side traffic I don’t understand why the speed couldn’t be a 45 MPH road like the 2 lane extension north of 466A.

[Topspinmo]

I have seen Village vehicles on Buena Vista doing way over 35miles an hour. So if Community Watch, Trollly, and Village airport vans cannot follow the law why should anyone? Sad world.

BV and MB have slow speed to allow LSV being cash for clunkers paid for most of them.

[Topspinmo]

I am a advocate of driving the speed limit in The Villages. I question why Powell Rd has a 35 mile spoof limit. A 4 lane divided highway with very low volume side traffic I don’t understand why the speed couldn’t be a 45 MPH road like the 2 lane road north of 466A.

Probably to allow LSV to strip malls off 44

[elreib]

I agree. Too many cars and carts think they do not have to stop at stop signs on the 25mph streets. They just slow down to 20 (from 35) and slip on through regardless if there is a car stopped waiting for them to stop and take their turn. It is always "their turn" (so they think). So often I have a close call at the corner of Belle Meade and Argyll, or Legacy. Use of turn signals helps as well. They do not know how important they are. SLOW DOWN PEOPLE, YOU ARE RETIRED!

[Topspinmo]

I agree,my golf cart will run 20 mph. I think every golf cart that has ever followed me has passed me when I'm going 20 mph. Some of these golf carts will pass me going over 25 mph. Since I've lived here as a resident for 6 yrs. I've only seen 3 golf carts pulled over. People must set their own governor what they want it to run. Everytime I get something done to my cart at the dealer, they want me to sign a paper saying I'll let me reset or check my cart to see if it only runs 20 mph. Everytime I get it back it always runs slower. Personally I don't think it really does any good to have speed laws on carts that they don't even enforce. Also I don't think people on carts know what a STOP sign is, nobody stops, they slow down & go right on thru the sign. I'm surprise someone hasn't gotten T boned at one of the tunnels yet. People leave there turn signals on & people at the tunnel exit assume these people are going to turn. It was a bad design for the cart manufacturers not to put automatic disengaged turn signals on carts.

Well for one it hard to enforce traffic laws on private roads (MMP). I agree if they are speeding down the diamond lanes then should be open season. I also agree that any LEO can set on any street and ticket carts, cars, bikers, and probably walkers that refuse to walk single file. But, with other duties nearly impossible to monitor all streets.

I noticed most abuser's of golf cart speed limit are golfers racing to their next tee time. Gas golf cart will run close or over 40 MPH if you take the governor out. The lawn mower engine will just keep winding up to air intake limit. I witnessed several carts speed at 38 plus.

The two elect carts that can be manipulated faster are par carts and star carts, some star carts have high and low switch, on low limited to 20 mph, flip it to high side and 35 Plus. Other brands if computer can't be reset have to have high speed motor and bigger tires.

Most don't let their gas carts wind all the way down due to the centrifugal clutch when there no traffic close. If there at 4'way stop and they're there first what difference does it make. Just like cars that do the rolling stop when other vehicles are at the stop sign waiting. not in line until stop at stop signs which means behind the stop sign not with front bumper out in the intersection.

Few even law enforcement stop behind stops sign or come to complete stop. No big deal IMO unless there are vehicles already in line at intersections

[bbbbbb]

Hi and thanks for the comments on speed. Well, we do have plenty of Happy Hours Bandits on the road. You can see them, take a walk at any square at about 3 to 6 and see the persons, who wobble over to the car or the cart. On the MMP paths, it is a real danger later in the day. Yes, we have our cart governed to 19.5 max. Carts over take us, then pull away after passing and that pull away is estimated at 10 mph so 20 plus 10 is 30. Some of us are keeping track, taking photos etc. It is a tragic event about to happen. So when this Village is, hopefully, hit with a class action lawsuit I will be first in line to tell some hair raising stories. This Village group will not support ID numbers on a cart. they will not support having a responsible call center to report offensive driving. I have called in about this, better to talk to a light pole. OK, the only thing they respond to is money money and money.
Their money making booze halls are well filled by the persons parking in the squares and going into drinking big time a big part of the day. Village Mgt. are enabling and helping this anomaly to happen and lei us hope they see a judge who will rap them, money is the only thing they respond to.

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[bbbbbb]

Hi it seems enforcement in the Villages is a thing of the past.
Note the trees that are overgrown, note the speeders and stop sign runners around, note the heavy drinkers buzzing by, throwing their beer cups out on the greens, note the rude folks cramming for a parking space next to their favorite watering hole. Note he Brightview guys in groups of 5 to 8 standing around and on their cell phones. Yep, it ain't what it used to be. So be it, please pardon the rant. The solution is to go away, so it takes time and it means a loss on the home since we bought into the dream when it was a dream.
Sorry.
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[ColdNoMore]

Hi it seems enforcement in the Villages is a thing of the past.
Note the trees that are overgrown, note the speeders and stop sign runners around, note the heavy drinkers buzzing by, throwing their beer cups out on the greens, note the rude folks cramming for a parking space next to their favorite watering hole. Note he Brightview guys in groups of 5 to 8 standing around and on their cell phones. Yep, it ain't what it used to be. So be it, please pardon the rant. The solution is to go away, so it takes time and it means a loss on the home since we bought into the dream when it was a dream.
Sorry.

I think it's the fault of the... 'older generation.' :1rotfl:

[OhioBuckeye]

Well for one it hard to enforce traffic laws on private roads (MMP). I agree if they are speeding down the diamond lanes then should be open season. I also agree that any LEO can set on any street and ticket carts, cars, bikers, and probably walkers that refuse to walk single file. But, with other duties nearly impossible to monitor all streets.

I noticed most abuser's of golf cart speed limit are golfers racing to their next tee time. Gas golf cart will run close or over 40 MPH if you take the governor out. The lawn mower engine will just keep winding up to air intake limit. I witnessed several carts speed at 38 plus.

The two elect carts that can be manipulated faster are par carts and star carts, some star carts have high and low switch, on low limited to 20 mph, flip it to high side and 35 Plus. Other brands if computer can't be reset have to have high speed motor and bigger tires.

Most don't let their gas carts wind all the way down due to the centrifugal clutch when there no traffic close. If there at 4'way stop and they're there first what difference does it make. Just like cars that do the rolling stop when other vehicles are at the stop sign waiting. not in line until stop at stop signs which means behind the stop sign not with front bumper out in the intersection.

Few even law enforcement stop behind stops sign or come to complete stop. No big deal IMO unless there are vehicles already in line at intersections

I can't disagree with what you said, it's pretty much exactly what you said. I guess my point was, like the old saying, If your going to have laws use them, if not why have them. TOPSPINMO, good points!

[BobnBev]

Hi and thanks for the comments on speed. Well, we do have plenty of Happy Hours Bandits on the road. You can see them, take a walk at any square at about 3 to 6 and see the persons, who wobble over to the car or the cart. On the MMP paths, it is a real danger later in the day. Yes, we have our cart governed to 19.5 max. Carts over take us, then pull away after passing and that pull away is estimated at 10 mph so 20 plus 10 is 30. Some of us are keeping track, taking photos etc. It is a tragic event about to happen. So when this Village is, hopefully, hit with a class action lawsuit I will be first in line to tell some hair raising stories. This Village group will not support ID numbers on a cart. they will not support having a responsible call center to report offensive driving. I have called in about this, better to talk to a light pole. OK, the only thing they respond to is money money and money.
Their money making booze halls are well filled by the persons parking in the squares and going into drinking big time a big part of the day. Village Mgt. are enabling and helping this anomaly to happen and lei us hope they see a judge who will rap them, money is the only thing they respond to.

:MOJE_whot: :MOJE_whot:

What's the going price for Judge today? Oh wait, what, you say I am asking the wrong people, I should ask people who have bought and paid for Judges. Any idea of who that might be?:oops::crap2::wine::rant-rave: