The Mature generation and Baby Boomers

[graciegirl]

This article gives the authors summary of six generations now living in this country.

Many of us who were born before 1945 were imprinted by parents who survived the depression and lived through the second world war. Those born past 1945, called Baby Boomers will continue to have ten thousand a day retiring for the next thirteen years.

See what you think about this article; I don't think anything can really catch or illustrate the highly individual people it is my pleasure to know who live here in The Villages. I am learning that WHERE we grew up also brands us in many ways.

What say you?
The Six Living Generations In America (http://www.marketingteacher.com/the-six-living-generations-in-america/)

[tomwed]

"With the advent of computers and web based learning, children leave behind toys at younger and younger age. It’s called KGOY-kids growing older younger, and many companies have suffered because of it, most recognizable is Mattel, the maker of Barbie dolls. In the 1990’s the average age of a child in their target market was 10 years old, and in 2000 it dropped to 3 years old. As children reach the age of four and five, old enough to play on the computer, they become less interested in toys and begin to desire electronics such as cell phones and video games."

I don't know how to react. Playing pretend, using you imagination, dolls, puppets, and building legos was big in my house. They don't mention playing sports. I suppose you use your imagination, learn and solve problems using technology. I have to mull this over.

[Jim 9922]

It nailed it!

[NotGolfer]

It nailed it!

Yes that article pretty much says it all. I was born "just" before the "boomers"...I can relate to both 'generations'. My parents were born as The Greatest Generation and I certainly have their values for sure.

[Chatbrat]

Looks like cell phones have become "the mind control helmets" depicted in the Buck Rogers serial starring Buster Crabbe--total focus and oblivious to the outside world around them

[Chi-Town]

Even though only a couple of years can separate the Mature /Silent generation from the Baby Boomer generation there is a pretty noticeable difference between the generations. Not bad or good, just noticeable.

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[Topspinmo]

Most baby boomers are spoiled little brats. Hence the name baby boomers.. now, some think they are bad? Nothing compared to baby boomers kids/kids which are twice as spoiled, which are the ultimate do Nothing kids except live at home and play on the cell phone or on the computer violent video games which alter the brain from reality. Small portions are so far gone they want to be popular and bring gun to school and make name for their themselves with they're pathetic altered brain, which was influenced by TV, movie theater, and video games. Now, you just wait if they can produce and they're kids not raised by grandparents or the state, you haven't seen nothing yet.

[manaboutown]

The baby boomers...I was born in 1942 ahead of them by a few years. I feel much more an "Ike" - silent generation - and recall as a college senior when incoming freshmen were pot smokers. Everything really changed after around 1965 which was the peak SAT score year. It went downhill thereafter in many, many ways, the dumbing down of school curricula, cultural disintegration, debasement of ethics and morality and much, much more.

I have a long time friend in my neighborhood who is now 86 years old. He grew up during the depression, while growing up along with his brother spent several years in an orphanage until his father took him home after regaining the financial ability to do so. He worked hard his whole life and owned a successful local retail business. He has three children now in their early to mid sixties. HE IS PAYING THE MORTGAGES FOR TWO OF THEM, AGED 65 AND 64!...as they are unable (unwilling?) to do so. One has a bachelors degree from Stanford which my friend no doubt paid for!

[tomwed]

Why can't they be like we were, perfect in every way.

Kids!
I don't know what's wrong with these kids today
Kids!
Who can understand anything they say?
Kids!
They are disobedient, disrespectful oafs
Noisy, crazy, sloppy, lazy loaf-
Ers!

And while we're on the subject
Kids!
You can talk and talk till your face is blue
Kids!
But they still do just what they want to do
Why can't they be like we were
Perfect in every way?
What's the matter with kids today?

[MAE]
Kids!
I've tried to raise you the best I could
Kids!
All the things I've done were for your own good
Kids!
Can't you once appreciated how I've sacrificed
Working, slaving, scrimping, saving pennies?
And livin' with your father
Kids!
No one knows the burden I've had to bear
(And in my condition!)
Kids!
I'm a poor, sick woman, and does he care?
Ha! Go on, go on, and kill me
That's what it's coming to
When a mother has kids like you

[CWGUY]

Most baby boomers are spoiled little brats. Hence the name baby boomers.. now, some think they are bad? Nothing compared to baby boomers kids/kids which are twice as spoiled, which are the ultimate do Nothing kids except live at home and play on the cell phone or on the computer violent video games which alter the brain from reality. Small portions are so far gone they want to be popular and bring gun to school and make name for their themselves with they're pathetic altered brain, which was influenced by TV, movie theater, and video games. Now, you just wait if they can produce and they're kids not raised by grandparents or the state, you haven't seen nothing yet.

:shrug: Painting my house soon..... where could I buy a "Broad Brush" like the one you use?;)


:read: paint with a broad brush = To describe a class of objects or a kind of phenomenon in general terms, without specific details and without attention to individual variations. :icon_bored:

[Topspinmo]

:shrug: Painting my house soon..... where could I buy a "Broad Brush" like the one you use?;)


:read: paint with a broad brush = To describe a class of objects or a kind of phenomenon in general terms, without specific details and without attention to individual variations. :icon_bored:


Yes I'm good with brush? Can even spot them 110 plus golfers:pepper2:

[Jdmiata]

As tomwed says.......Why can't they be like we were, perfect in every way.

[rustyp]

I sense many may feel whatever generation they are from was the best. Food for thought - the baby boomers were raised by the silent mature generation. Thus as many believe your value system is a product your environment (like area of country as only one of many attributes) is not your value system a product of your parents. So if you are one to believe each generation has got worse than the previous generation don't they only have themselves to blame ? For the record I don't prescribe to the thought that one generation is better than or worse than another. There is good and bad in every generation.

[Topspinmo]

I sense many may feel whatever generation they are from was the best. Food for thought - the baby boomers were raised by the silent mature generation. Thus as many believe your value system is a product your environment (like area of country as only one of many attributes) is not your value system a product of your parents. So if you are one to believe each generation has got worse than the previous generation don't they only have themselves to blame ? For the record I don't prescribe to the thought that one generation is better than or worse than another. There is good and bad in every generation.

so what you're say every parent is to blame from Adam and Eve.

[Schaumburger]

:shrug: Painting my house soon..... where could I buy a "Broad Brush" like the one you use?;)


:read: paint with a broad brush = To describe a class of objects or a kind of phenomenon in general terms, without specific details and without attention to individual variations. :icon_bored:

:agree: Thank you.

[Bucco]

:shrug: Painting my house soon..... where could I buy a "Broad Brush" like the one you use?;)


:read: paint with a broad brush = To describe a class of objects or a kind of phenomenon in general terms, without specific details and without attention to individual variations. :icon_bored:

good post

Seems to be the thing today in this country.

Label them, put them in a box, then attack them as a group, whether by age (as here), race, religion, politics, ethnic background.

Life is simple if you do that. You dont have to waste time even learning anything.

[Schaumburger]

Very interesting article -- definitely food for thought.

I see the positive and attributes in every generation. My father is part of the silent generation, born early in the Great Depression. He went to work on his family's farm when his older brothers went to fight in WWII. Marriage was for life. My mom quit working her paying job 3 months after she got married. No way was that the life for me!

I am boomer along with my 2 sisters. I don't think we were "spoiled,", but we did not want for material things within reason. Our parents were more frugal than we are. My father sees things in black and white; I tend to see things in shades of grey.

I am definitely more tolerant than my father; in today's workforce, you'd better learn to get along with everyone if you want to keep your job. I see even greater tolerance in my nieces who are millennials.

My nieces don't really remember a world without computers, but I learned to type on a manual typewriter in high school in the 1970's. Technology has certainly sped up the pace of change, especially in the past 30 years. Remember the VCR, dial-up modem and cell phones the size of bricks?

[rustyp]

Very interesting article -- definitely food for thought.

I see the positive and attributes in every generation. My father is part of the silent generation, born early in the Great Depression. He went to work on his family's farm when his older brothers went to fight in WWII. Marriage was for life. My mom quit working her paying job 3 months after she got married. No way was that the life for me!

I am boomer along with my 2 sisters. I don't think we were "spoiled,", but we did not want for material things within reason. Our parents were more frugal than we are. My father sees things in black and white; I tend to see things in shades of grey.

I am definitely more tolerant than my father; in today's workforce, you'd better learn to get along with everyone if you want to keep your job. I see even greater tolerance in my nieces who are millennials.

My nieces don't really remember a world without computers, but I learned to type on a manual typewriter in high school in the 1970's. Technology has certainly sped up the pace of change, especially in the past 30 years. Remember the VCR, dial-up modem and cell phones the size of bricks?

Excellent post
:eclipsee_gold_cup:

[rustyp]

so what you're say every parent is to blame from Adam and Eve.

No I am actually saying no one is to blame. Time stands still for no one. Generations values in part are an adaptation to changing times in my opinion. Times have never changed as quickly as in the last century.

[graciegirl]

No I am actually saying no one is to blame. Time stands still for no one. Generations values in part are an adaptation to changing times in my opinion. Times have never changed as quickly as in the last century.

I so agree.

[Bucco]

No I am actually saying no one is to blame. Time stands still for no one. Generations values in part are an adaptation to changing times in my opinion. Times have never changed as quickly as in the last century.

So true.

The link was a very unfair attempt to pigeon hole everyone.

I know young people who have a better work ethic than any of us elders. I also know elders who are very immature and lazy.

My point always is.....you cannot say ALL about any age, class, etc. the work is to get to KNOW of what or WHO you feel the need to judge.

[ColdNoMore]

Why can't they be like we were, perfect in every way.

Kids!
I don't know what's wrong with these kids today
Kids!
Who can understand anything they say?
Kids!
They are disobedient, disrespectful oafs
Noisy, crazy, sloppy, lazy loaf-
Ers!

And while we're on the subject
Kids!
You can talk and talk till your face is blue
Kids!
But they still do just what they want to do
Why can't they be like we were
Perfect in every way?
What's the matter with kids today?

[MAE]
Kids!
I've tried to raise you the best I could
Kids!
All the things I've done were for your own good
Kids!
Can't you once appreciated how I've sacrificed
Working, slaving, scrimping, saving pennies?
And livin' with your father
Kids!
No one knows the burden I've had to bear
(And in my condition!)
Kids!
I'm a poor, sick woman, and does he care?
Ha! Go on, go on, and kill me
That's what it's coming to
When a mother has kids like you

And that could have been written...in the 1700's. :oops:


I crack up (and pity) those people who think they are superior to others, simply because they were born a couple of years prior...to made up names for a particular 'generation.' :ohdear:

[ColdNoMore]

good post

Seems to be the thing today in this country.

Label them, put them in a box, then attack them as a group, whether by age (as here), race, religion, politics, ethnic background.

Life is simple if you do that. You dont have to waste time even learning anything.

Yep. :ohdear:

[graciegirl]

And that could have been written...in the 1700's. :oops:


I crack up (and pity) those people who think they are superior to others, simply because they were born a couple of years prior...to made up names for a particular 'generation.' :ohdear:


I think that being respectful to others whether they are older OR younger is the key. Most of us Villagers have friends in a wide age span. Most people pick others to be around because they are fun, and nice and comfortable, and who have similar interests, and don't try to avoid others in any way just because of age, be it younger or older.

[ColdNoMore]

I think that being respectful to others whether they are older OR younger is the key. Most of us Villagers have friends in a wide age span. Most people pick others to be around because they are fun, and nice and comfortable, and who have similar interests, and don't try to avoid others in any way just because of age, be it younger or older.
Yep.

I have friends here from their late 40's...to their mid 80's.

What I don't have, are any friends who are bullies, passive-aggressive, bigoted, racist or otherwise nasty to others...as life is too short for that.

[fw102807]

I don't think anything has changed at all, we just hear about it more. When I was in high school if a girl got pregnant they said she left to go into the convent it wasn't posted on FB. Things were covered up and not talked about. My unmarried uncle had a best friend until he died. Rape was just not mentioned it was just a misunderstanding. Now the media just jumps on everything and disects it ad nauseum. Bad behavior dates back to Adam and Eve.

[ColdNoMore]

I don't think anything has changed at all, we just hear about it more. When I was in high school if a girl got pregnant they said she left to go into the convent it wasn't posted on FB. Things were covered up and not talked about. My unmarried uncle had a best friend until he died. Rape was just not mentioned it was just a misunderstanding. Now the media just jumps on everything and disects it ad nauseum. Bad behavior dates back to Adam and Eve.

And their incestuous offspring.

Nothing really new...under this sun. :shrug:

[dillywho]

So true.

The link was a very unfair attempt to pigeon hole everyone.

I know young people who have a better work ethic than any of us elders. I also know elders who are very immature and lazy.

My point always is.....you cannot say ALL about any age, class, etc. the work is to get to KNOW of what or WHO you feel the need to judge.

Quoted from the link and says it much better than I could:

"This is only a guideline, remember that everyone is different and not everyone fits into this analysis, but for the most part you can generalize their behavior."

I have said just what you have about pigeon-holing many times on this very forum. Do the words "old people" and "drivers" and "entitled" come to mind?

Believe it or not, every next generation is "hell-bound" according to the previous and or current one. Always has been and always will be. There is something good and something bad about every generation and has been for eons; this practice will endure far longer than we will.

Meanwhile, let's just relax and try to get along. Villagers have not all come from the same place nor from the same generation. We all have opinions and that is great! If not, how dull and boring would our lives both past and present be!!

[manaboutown]

"The world is passing through troublous times. The young people of today think of nothing but themselves. They have no reverence for parents or old age. They are impatient of all restraint. They talk as if they knew everything, and what passes for wisdom with us is foolishness with them. As for the girls, they are forward, immodest and unladylike in speech, behavior and dress."
(From a sermon preached by Peter the Hermit in A.D. 1274)

[rustyp]

The article and for that matter the idea of labeling "generation" borders absurdity. First what wizzard got to tie a generation to a historical event ? If it were I - I would pick a positive one not a negative one like war. Second take the mature / silent generation 1927 - 1945 - does that mean if you were born in 1946 you value system is totally different ? I don't buy into the "generation thing". I feel it is a constant continuum adapting to the times. I remember my Dad born 1924 bucking his "generation " when teaching me to question whatever I have been told to make sure it passes a test of reasonableness. Not to be a radical but don't except blind faith (ah another subject). I could watch him change with the times as he raised me. A must was we be at the dinner table at 6 PM - no excuses. We will converse. One night we would have a conversation about you are young and should take risks (within the reasonableness clause). What do you have to lose ? The other 6 nights we got the save for a rainy day speech. I remember the depression" That was enough to make us pee our pants. That limited the risks in our mind to the nickle slots. So which "generation did my Dad belong to?

[ColdNoMore]

The article and for that matter the idea of labeling "generation" borders absurdity. First what wizzard got to tie a generation to a historical event ? If it were I - I would pick a positive one not a negative one like war. Second take the mature / silent generation 1927 - 1945 - does that mean if you were born in 1946 you value system is totally different ? I don't buy into the "generation thing". I feel it is a constant continuum adapting to the times. I remember my Dad born 1924 bucking his "generation " when teaching me to question whatever I have been told to make sure it passes a test of reasonableness. Not to be a radical but don't except blind faith (ah another subject). I could watch him change with the times as he raised me. A must was we be at the dinner table at 6 PM - no excuses. We will converse. One night we would have a conversation about you are young and should take risks (within the reasonableness clause). What do you have to lose ? The other 6 nights we got the save for a rainy day speech. I remember the depression" That was enough to make us pee our pants. That limited the risks in our mind to the nickle slots. So which "generation did my Dad belong to?


:BigApplause:

[fw102807]

"The world is passing through troublous times. The young people of today think of nothing but themselves. They have no reverence for parents or old age. They are impatient of all restraint. They talk as if they knew everything, and what passes for wisdom with us is foolishness with them. As for the girls, they are forward, immodest and unladylike in speech, behavior and dress."
(From a sermon preached by Peter the Hermit in A.D. 1274)

Amen!

[ColdNoMore]

"The world is passing through troublous times. The young people of today think of nothing but themselves. They have no reverence for parents or old age. They are impatient of all restraint. They talk as if they knew everything, and what passes for wisdom with us is foolishness with them. As for the girls, they are forward, immodest and unladylike in speech, behavior and dress."
(From a sermon preached by Peter the Hermit in A.D. 1274)

Dead on! :thumbup:

[graciegirl]

It is NEVER kind to exclude someone because of age. It is not pleasant to be dismissed summarily because of age.

There is no way any of us can avoid getting older, unless we die.

And none of us can get any younger.

I think most of us can read the unspoken attitude of most posters.

[Schaumburger]

\\\

[ColdNoMore]

:BigApplause: There are several people from TOTV I would like to live next door to if I ever move to TV. You are one of them.

Ditto! :thumbup:

[tcxr750]

I think what has changed in the past several decades has been the cultural change from all about US to all about ME. This has been aided by the advancement in technology which allows people the ability to spend hours focusing on the their own narcissistic interests without distraction from the world and people around them. Smart Phone?!!

[tomwed]

I wish my name was Peter the Hermit. It's a fun name.

[fw102807]

I wish my name was Peter the Hermit. It's a fun name.

Nah, Alexander the Great is a fun name.

[Bucco]

I think what has changed in the past several decades has been the cultural change from all about US to all about ME. This has been aided by the advancement in technology which allows people the ability to spend hours focusing on the their own narcissistic interests without distraction from the world and people around them. Smart Phone?!!

WE......POSTERS are the only thing that has changed. We got older.

I add this link from BBC in Oct discussing this issue where we generalize so much, ESPECIALLY in the USA.

BBC - Capital - What everyone gets wrong about 'millennial snowflakes' (http://www.bbc.com/capital/story/20171003-millennials-are-the-generation-thats-fun-to-hate)

Did you realize that children living with their parents peaked in the 1940's, and is NOT a phenom of the current age ?

The author ends this with this.....

"So basically, millennials are the same as other generations were at their age. Only a little different. More global, maybe. More diverse. More progressive. Definitely poorer. But a unique group of monsters, the entitled wrath of which the world has ever seen before? I’m not so sure."

This is not a serious study but simple an observation that I agree with. To make ourselves feel good, we tend to make any other generation the bad guys, the worst ever.

Changes happen and we are quick to judge, but somehow we always are the best ever and the young folks are the worst. THAT does not seem to change ever.

Personally, I think it would be great if we stopped judging based on the dumbest things and started listening to each other, helping each other, and learning from each other

[tomwed]

Nah, Alexander the Great is a fun name.I don't know. It doesn't make sense. Hermits keep to themselves. That's the whole idea of being hermit. So how can you quote a hermit? Peter can't have it both ways. He's more like Peter the Blabbermouth.

[fw102807]

I don't know. It doesn't make sense. Hermits keep to themselves. That's the whole idea of being hermit. So how can you quote a hermit? Peter can't have it both ways. He's more like Peter the Blabbermouth.

But a very wise blabbermouth...

[graciegirl]

Honor thy father and mother so that thou days may be long upon the land thou Lord thy God has given you.

Every Bible-believing mom and dad has either quoted or paraphrased this verse. Usually, we do it when we’re almost ready to sell the children to a group of traveling gypsies.

[Abby10]

Just an observation - I don't see nearly as much negativity in the linked article as I do in these posts. The author appears to be making generalizations, yes, but that is all they are. It appears she is merely pointing out certain facts/assertions about each era and how they may have impacted individuals growing up in that era.

I tend to believe as some have mentioned in this thread that what makes a person is a combination of many things, including what the author alludes to PLUS how you were raised and even where you were raised. And then throw in one's own individual personality just to put even more of a twist on it.

When I see generalizations like this, I don't immediately go to the thought of judgment of others, but to one of understanding. I use it as a means to understand people of different generations, knowing that it is not a one size fits all and that we are all unique individuals. As a result, I saw it as a helpful guideline to understanding some of the differences in the eras in which we were raised and how that might affect one's thoughts and behavior.

Personally, I love people of all ages and generations. Having close friends of all ages is a big part of what makes my own life more fulfilling.

[ColdNoMore]

Folks need to keep in mind, that the 'pure opinion' piece in the OP link was written by a marketing person...and their opinion on how to market to certain age groups. :oops:


It's not like it has anything to do with...actual facts, peer-reviewed-studies or real science of any kind. :ohdear:

[Abby10]

Folks need to keep in mind, that the 'pure opinion' piece in the OP link was written by a marketing person...and their opinion on how to market to certain age groups. :oops:


It's not like it has anything to do with...actual facts, peer-reviewed-studies or real science of any kind. :ohdear:

There were facts in the article regarding each era, then assumptions made about people who were raised in specific generations. I think most of us are aware it is not a scientific study and that's why we all have our own opinions about it. It's not factual, but food for thought. Nothing wrong with that if used in a positive manner to come to a better understanding of what makes different people think and act in certain ways. Sometimes it may be the case, and sometimes not, but nevertheless gives one some background on the differences of the time frames in which we were raised and how that might impact us.

[fw102807]

Sorry but I view it as pure propaganda.

[graciegirl]

There were facts in the article regarding each era, then assumptions made about people who were raised in specific generations. I think most of us are aware it is not a scientific study and that's why we all have our own opinions about it. It's not factual, but food for thought. Nothing wrong with that if used in a positive manner to come to a better understanding of what makes different people think and act in certain ways. Sometimes it may be the case, and sometimes not, but nevertheless gives one some background on the differences of the time frames in which we were raised and how that might impact us.

Many of us think the same way, but can't say it so beautifully. One thing for sure is that we are making great strides as time goes by, trying to understand others, both in family life and in behavioral science where it has been learned that many personality traits are inherited.. It still takes patience, overlooking a lot, and great strength and perception to continue any relationship for a long time. A sense of humor and good old common sense is a great help in getting along with others.

[ColdNoMore]

Sorry but I view it as pure propaganda.

And a pathetic attempt at denigration...of certain 'generations.' :ohdear:


Just my 'most excellent and superior generation' opinion...of course. :D

[fw102807]

And a pathetic attempt at denigration...of certain 'generations.' :ohdear:


Just my 'most excellent and superior generation' opinion...of course. :D

Of course. :bigbow:

[Bucco]

There were facts in the article regarding each era, then assumptions made about people who were raised in specific generations. I think most of us are aware it is not a scientific study and that's why we all have our own opinions about it. It's not factual, but food for thought. Nothing wrong with that if used in a positive manner to come to a better understanding of what makes different people think and act in certain ways. Sometimes it may be the case, and sometimes not, but nevertheless gives one some background on the differences of the time frames in which we were raised and how that might impact us.

You are correct, of course.

My posts are aimed at those who immediately dismiss young people as spoiled, unaware, "all about me", etc. I suppose all noted that the group of millennials we speak of are "Definitely poorer" than all of us were at the same time in our life, which is proven true. THAT alone can cause frustration as it may seem to them that they are being left behind as we read of the rich and powerful misusing what God has allowed them to garner, whether on their own or otherwise.

I see very little difference in people of millennial age from now to when I fit in that category. Fact is, I see very little difference in people in general.........HOWEVER, recognize the changes in society, technology, and the changes which have made our world so much "smaller" than it was when I was that age.

I also, by the way object to many generalizations of folks my age (I was born in 1939). WE are not all the same by any stretch, and I give that same latitude to those younger.

Experience is a good teacher, but we are not all good students in ANY generation.

The young man in Nashville who was a hero in the Waffle House shooting, and since has raised almost $200,000 to help the families of survivors is a great example of fine young people, and he is never mentioned on here or much anywhere, which has baffled me since our society seems ready to pounce on any negative. The "greatest generation" should be respected and held in awe. They were forced to fight a war to remain free, and they also overcame a depression, but even during the "greatest generation". There is book called "Dreadful" which, AS WITH Brokaw's book be taken as it is presented. 16 Million Americans served in WW2 and not all were brave or even good.

Point is, generalization is not a good or healthy thing. We are products of a lot of input, but other than the societal changes that force some change, we are always the same human beings.

As a young Catholic altar boy, I met a guy my age who was black, extremely poor and had a chip on his shoulder. We met quite by accident as I walked to church one Saturday night because I was scheduled to serve that evening in about 1953. He was loud, brash, cocky and frankly scared the hell out of me. In the early 80's, I was proud to attend his first mass celebration as a priest and his first sermon was relative to the winding journey to get where he was. I wonder how many, as I guess I did, passed judgement on him because he was young and brash and black ?

[CFrance]

Most baby boomers are spoiled little brats. Hence the name baby boomers.. now, some think they are bad? Nothing compared to baby boomers kids/kids which are twice as spoiled, which are the ultimate do Nothing kids except live at home and play on the cell phone or on the computer violent video games which alter the brain from reality. Small portions are so far gone they want to be popular and bring gun to school and make name for their themselves with they're pathetic altered brain, which was influenced by TV, movie theater, and video games. Now, you just wait if they can produce and they're kids not raised by grandparents or the state, you haven't seen nothing yet.
Blanket statements and accusations are never accurate. This BS is just plain wrong. How dare you characterize my hard-working husband and I as spoiled and our respectful, successful kids as do nothings.

Or any of the successful parents of respectful kids in this country.

[ColdNoMore]

You are correct, of course.

My posts are aimed at those who immediately dismiss young people as spoiled, unaware, "all about me", etc. I suppose all noted that the group of millennials we speak of are "Definitely poorer" than all of us were at the same time in our life, which is proven true. THAT alone can cause frustration as it may seem to them that they are being left behind as we read of the rich and powerful misusing what God has allowed them to garner, whether on their own or otherwise.

I see very little difference in people of millennial age from now to when I fit in that category. Fact is, I see very little difference in people in general.........HOWEVER, recognize the changes in society, technology, and the changes which have made our world so much "smaller" than it was when I was that age.

I also, by the way object to many generalizations of folks my age (I was born in 1939). WE are not all the same by any stretch, and I give that same latitude to those younger.

Experience is a good teacher, but we are not all good students in ANY generation.

The young man in Nashville who was a hero in the Waffle House shooting, and since has raised almost $200,000 to help the families of survivors is a great example of fine young people, and he is never mentioned on here or much anywhere, which has baffled me since our society seems ready to pounce on any negative. The "greatest generation" should be respected and held in awe. They were forced to fight a war to remain free, and they also overcame a depression, but even during the "greatest generation". There is book called "Dreadful" which, AS WITH Brokaw's book be taken as it is presented. 16 Million Americans served in WW2 and not all were brave or even good.

Point is, generalization is not a good or healthy thing. We are products of a lot of input, but other than the societal changes that force some change, we are always the same human beings.

As a young Catholic altar boy, I met a guy my age who was black, extremely poor and had a chip on his shoulder. We met quite by accident as I walked to church one Saturday night because I was scheduled to serve that evening in about 1953. He was loud, brash, cocky and frankly scared the hell out of me. In the early 80's, I was proud to attend his first mass celebration as a priest and his first sermon was relative to the winding journey to get where he was. I wonder how many, as I guess I did, passed judgement on him because he was young and brash and black ?

Blanket statements and accusations are never accurate. This BS is just plain wrong. How dare you characterize my hard-working husband and I as spoiled and our respectful, successful kids as do nothings.

Or any of the successful parents of respectful kids in this country.

Two VERY excellent posts! :BigApplause:

[Boomer]

WE......POSTERS are the only thing that has changed. We got older.

I add this link from BBC in Oct discussing this issue where we generalize so much, ESPECIALLY in the USA.

BBC - Capital - What everyone gets wrong about 'millennial snowflakes' (http://www.bbc.com/capital/story/20171003-millennials-are-the-generation-thats-fun-to-hate)

Did you realize that children living with their parents peaked in the 1940's, and is NOT a phenom of the current age ?

The author ends this with this.....

"So basically, millennials are the same as other generations were at their age. Only a little different. More global, maybe. More diverse. More progressive. Definitely poorer. But a unique group of monsters, the entitled wrath of which the world has ever seen before? I’m not so sure."

This is not a serious study but simple an observation that I agree with. To make ourselves feel good, we tend to make any other generation the bad guys, the worst ever.

Changes happen and we are quick to judge, but somehow we always are the best ever and the young folks are the worst. THAT does not seem to change ever.

Personally, I think it would be great if we stopped judging based on the dumbest things and started listening to each other, helping each other, and learning from each other


YAY! Bucco! :) I like what you wrote. I bet we would get along just fine. I don’t care what generation you are from. And yes, my name is Boomer.

(I think there are a bunch of people who are mad at the millennials because the millennials don’t want their stuff — literally and/or figuratively.)

[fw102807]

Even old, middle aged, young. In the end we will all be judged alike.

[rustyp]

Most baby boomers are spoiled little brats. Hence the name baby boomers.. now, some think they are bad? Nothing compared to baby boomers kids/kids which are twice as spoiled, which are the ultimate do Nothing kids except live at home and play on the cell phone or on the computer violent video games which alter the brain from reality. Small portions are so far gone they want to be popular and bring gun to school and make name for their themselves with they're pathetic altered brain, which was influenced by TV, movie theater, and video games. Now, you just wait if they can produce and they're kids not raised by grandparents or the state, you haven't seen nothing yet.

I know some of those vidiots your referring to as do nothing kids.

- Some are protecting your bank account every day
- Rooms full of them are protecting our infrastructure like the electric grid and our water supply 24 hours per day
- Some of them monitor and protect our pilots from radar jamming
- Some of them write software for state of the art medical devices enabling us to live longer

Some of those vidiots even dared to give up their video games and explore other fields like doctors, nurses, lawyers, firemen, etc. Maybe even one or two had a hand in building your home here behind the gates.

[fw102807]

I know some of those vidiots your referring to as do nothing kids.

- Some are protecting your bank account every day
- Rooms full of them are protecting our infrastructure like the electric grid and our water supply 24 hours per day
- Some of them monitor and protect our pilots from radar jamming
- Some of them write software for state of the art medical devices enabling us to live longer

Some of those vidiots even dared to give up their video games and explore other fields like doctors, nurses, lawyers, firemen, etc. Maybe even one or two had a hand in building your home here behind the gates.

That's because they don't make the news.

[Rapscallion St Croix]

Mature/Silent here, and I must disagree with the statement that chewing gum in class or passing notes were the gravest offences. I regularly got caught with more than five marbles, a sure indication that I had relieved another kid of his aggies and cats eyes via the forbidden game of "keepsies". Penalty....relieved of all my marbles and thirty precious minutes added to my school day....occasionally, a paddle might be involved.

[asianthree]

Blanket statements and accusations are never accurate. This BS is just plain wrong. How dare you characterize my hard-working husband and I as spoiled and our respectful, successful kids as do nothings.

Or any of the successful parents of respectful kids in this country.

Well said

[manaboutown]

And the dumbing down continues...65% of Public School 8th Graders Not Proficient in Reading; 67% Not Proficient in Math (https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/terence-p-jeffrey/65-public-school-8th-graders-not-proficient-reading-67-not-proficient)

[ColdNoMore]

I made a mention of the young man who was a hero in the Waffle House shooting. A fellow who has never, at least that I know of, been mentioned on TOTV in anyway, nor by any national leaders, but this warms my heart a bit to know he IS appreciated....

"NASHVILLE, Tenn. (AP) — The Predators gave Nashville a chance to give the man who wrestled an AR-15 rifle away from a gunman at a Waffle House a standing ovation.

James Shaw Jr. met with Nashville coach Peter Laviolette before Game 2 Sunday night of the Predators' Western Conference semifinal with Winnipeg and he was given his own personalized jersey.

The Predators recognized several of the first responders from that deadly shooting a week ago in Nashville. The sold-out crowd gave Shaw a roaring ovation.

Police have credited the 29-year-old Shaw for averting more bloodshed after a gunman opened fire outside the Waffle House and then stormed the restaurant. Four people were killed and four others, including Shaw, were wounded.

Shaw also has raised more than $200,000 for the victims."

Predators honor hero in Waffle House shooting before Game 2 - NY Daily News (http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/hockey/predators-honor-hero-waffle-house-shooting-game-2-article-1.3962645)

He is of the spoiled, "all about me" group.

Yep, James Shaw Jr. is a true hero...in every sense of the word. :BigApplause:


And yet, his selfless and heroic actions have been totally ignored on the national stage...by certain folks.


I wonder why? :confused:

[graciegirl]

Here is another person who deserves honor.

Sarasota police officer's emotional farewell goes viral - News - Sarasota Herald-Tribune - Sarasota, FL (http://www.heraldtribune.com/news/20180430/sarasota-police-officers-emotional-farewell-goes-viral)

[manaboutown]

Too much of this type of thing is ignored as well. FACT CHECK: Deputy Scott Wood Shooting (https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/scott-wood-shooting/)

[manaboutown]

Yes, James Shaw Jr. is quite a remarkable, brave and giving man. He is very deserving of the recognition and accolades he is receiving. Waffle House Hero Raising Money for Victims''' Families | PEOPLE.com (http://people.com/crime/james-shaw-jr-waffle-house-hero-fundraise-victim-families/)

[ColdNoMore]

Yes, James Shaw Jr. is quite a remarkable, brave and giving man. He is very deserving of the recognition and accolades he is receiving. Waffle House Hero Raising Money for Victims''' Families | PEOPLE.com (http://people.com/crime/james-shaw-jr-waffle-house-hero-fundraise-victim-families/)

Yep...he certainly is! :thumbup:


It is revealing however, that we haven't seen any high-level public comments/tweets...about his exceptional heroism. :(

[manaboutown]

Yep...he certainly is! :thumbup:


It is revealing however, that we haven't seen any high-level public comments/tweets...about his exceptional heroism. :(

I have seen a lot about it, especially on FB. He was on TV with Ellen Ellen Sits Down with Waffle House Hero James Shaw Jr. - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UIUVJG6dA4)

and may get an invitation to the White House. Waffle House shooting: Hero James Shaw Jr. may get White House invite. (https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/politics/2018/05/01/waffle-house-hero-james-shaw-jr-may-get-invitation-white-house/570706002/)

Vice President Pence tweeted about his selfless bravery. Pence tweets thanks to Waffle House hero | TheHill (http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/385147-pence-thanks-waffle-house-hero-days-after-shooting)

[ColdNoMore]

"May?"


"VP?"


I rest my case. :ho:

[Bucco]

Here is another person who deserves honor.

Sarasota police officer's emotional farewell goes viral - News - Sarasota Herald-Tribune - Sarasota, FL (http://www.heraldtribune.com/news/20180430/sarasota-police-officers-emotional-farewell-goes-viral)

I do understand exactly why you posted this, but I assume you do know he has been doing his job, received money and will have a great pension.

That is not to say he should not be honored for his service, but I find your comparing these two quite......."odd"

[graciegirl]

Yep, James Shaw Jr. is a true hero...in every sense of the word. :BigApplause:


And yet, his selfless and heroic actions have been totally ignored on the national stage...by certain folks.


I wonder why? :confused:

White House talking to Waffle House hero about Trump meeting (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/white-house-talking-to-waffle-house-hero-about-trump-meeting/ar-AAwAUpk?ocid=spartandhp&ffid=gz)

[ColdNoMore]

I have seen a lot about it, especially on FB. He was on TV with Ellen Ellen Sits Down with Waffle House Hero James Shaw Jr. - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UIUVJG6dA4)

and may get an invitation to the White House. Waffle House shooting: Hero James Shaw Jr. may get White House invite. (https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/politics/2018/05/01/waffle-house-hero-james-shaw-jr-may-get-invitation-white-house/570706002/)

Vice President Pence tweeted about his selfless bravery. Pence tweets thanks to Waffle House hero | TheHill (http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/385147-pence-thanks-waffle-house-hero-days-after-shooting)

He "may" get an invitation? :oops:

[Allegiance]

All great civilizations eventually were destroyed one way or another, usually by outsiders.

Ours is doomed as well.


Why Muslims are the world’s fastest-growing religious group | Pew Research Center (http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/04/06/why-muslims-are-the-worlds-fastest-growing-religious-group/)

Enjoy it while you can. It might be the last generation.


Societal collapse - Wikipedia (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Societal_collapse)

Technology will make it a world wide collapse.

[ColdNoMore]

White House talking to Waffle House hero about Trump meeting (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/white-house-talking-to-waffle-house-hero-about-trump-meeting/ar-AAwAUpk?ocid=spartandhp&ffid=gz)

In your link.

Trump himself has not tweeted or spoken about Shaw since the incident.

[ColdNoMore]

I think this bears repeating. :ho:

Yep, James Shaw Jr. is a true hero...in every sense of the word. :BigApplause:


And yet, his selfless and heroic actions have been totally ignored on the national stage...by certain folks.


I wonder why? :confused:

[Kenswing]

I think this bears repeating. :ho:

With about 20% of the posts in this thread being yours, I think you like to repeat a lot.. lol :ho:

[ColdNoMore]

With about 20% of the posts in this thread being yours, I think you like to repeat a lot.. lol

Only 27,058 posts...to go. LOL :1rotfl:

[Kenswing]

Only 27,058 posts...to go. LOL :1rotfl:

You'll easily cover that in about 8.5 more years..

[tomwed]

Nothing to it. We will help. Let's all join in.
27,058 posts on the thread, 27,058 posts to go, write one down, pass it around 27,057 to go.
Your turn.

[Allegiance]

Why are the haters turning this into a political thread?


Winning!

[Abby10]

Nothing to it. We will help. Let's all join in.
27,058 posts on the thread, 27,058 posts to go, write one down, pass it around 27,057 to go.
Your turn.

Thanks for turning this thread around......lol

You're a bright light in many threads on this forum and, at times, it's just what we all need. :thumbup:

[Allegiance]

Why are the haters turning this into a political thread?


Winning!Sorry ...hater

[Kenswing]

Why are the haters turning this into a political thread?


Winning!

Sorry ...hater

You really worry me when you reply to yourself.. lol

[manaboutown]

White House talking to Waffle House hero about Trump meeting (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/white-house-talking-to-waffle-house-hero-about-trump-meeting/ar-AAwAUpk?ocid=spartandhp&ffid=gz)

Thank you Mr. President! This modest brave young gentleman deserves your attention and praise!

[Allegiance]

Thanks for NOTHING! [emoji16]You really worry me when you reply to yourself.. lol

[Allegiance]

Thanks for NOTHING! [emoji16]Oops wrong thread, ignore the self response.

[Kenswing]

Oops wrong thread, ignore the self response.
:bigbow:

[ColdNoMore]

White House talking to Waffle House hero about Trump meeting (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/white-house-talking-to-waffle-house-hero-about-trump-meeting/ar-AAwAUpk?ocid=spartandhp&ffid=gz)

I encourage everyone to read this link...the entire link.


Facts matter. :ho:

[Abby10]

Thank you Mr. President! This modest brave young gentleman deserves your attention and praise!

I agree. This young man has it all - brave and humble. I was quite impressed when I saw the one-on one interview with him on Fox news.

[manaboutown]

Sadly the schools are letting down the children of today as their test scores keep going down, down, down...down the drain.

[Moderator]

A large number of off topic posts have been removed from this thread. Please return the discussing the article mentioned by the OP.

Moderator

[ColdNoMore]

I know some of those vidiots your referring to as do nothing kids.

- Some are protecting your bank account every day
- Rooms full of them are protecting our infrastructure like the electric grid and our water supply 24 hours per day
- Some of them monitor and protect our pilots from radar jamming
- Some of them write software for state of the art medical devices enabling us to live longer

Some of those vidiots even dared to give up their video games and explore other fields like doctors, nurses, lawyers, firemen, etc. Maybe even one or two had a hand in building your home here behind the gates.


:BigApplause:...:BigApplause:...:BigApplause:

[Topspinmo]

Blanket statements and accusations are never accurate. This BS is just plain wrong. How dare you characterize my hard-working husband and I as spoiled and our respectful, successful kids as do nothings.

Or any of the successful parents of respectful kids in this country.

Did you have dad and mom, have you been hungry not just missed meal or two? did you have to work in high school. Did daddy buy you car when you turned 16? Did dad pay for you're college? If you answered yes IMO you was spoiled.

[ColdNoMore]

Did you have dad and mom, have you been hungry not just missed meal or two? did you have to work in high school. Did daddy buy you car when you turned 16? Did dad pay for you're college? If you answered yes IMO you was spoiled.

Education, even a rudimentary one...matters. :oops:

[fw102807]

Did you have dad and mom, have you been hungry not just missed meal or two? did you have to work in high school. Did daddy buy you car when you turned 16? Did dad pay for you're college? If you answered yes IMO you was spoiled.

This happens in all generations. Some people have money and some don't. You sound very bitter and I am sorry for you.

[Allegiance]

This is a GREAT generation. Hard working legal immigrants.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180503/a0a86f11d8d77aea840b58243406cc12.jpg

[graciegirl]

Education, even a rudimentary one...matters. :oops:

A formal education past high school is now crucial for many careers. But many older people did not attend college, not because they weren't college material, but simply because they didn't have the means. People often became very successful and powerful and established businesses that employed many people without a college education. The Villages is full of people who without a college degree enriched this country with their hard work, amazing families and their wisdom.

Not every person is born to be college material, but that does not make them inferior to me, and to many. We may not all be born with the ability to turn a phrase, always spell correctly and show off skills that in the grand scheme of things aren't always that valuable.

Every person, no matter what their I.Q., amount of money and possessions, no matter their education or lack of it is born valuable. We may not all be born to be the center for the Celtics, the person who unlocks the secrets of DNA, able to mesmerize with our singing ability or have head turning physical beauty, but we are all people who have hearts and feelings, and most of us are doing the best we can. And that is treasured by those who have deeper perception.

[fw102807]

A formal education past high school is now crucial for many careers. But many older people did not attend college, not because they weren't college material, but simply because they didn't have the means. People often became very successful and powerful and established businesses that employed many people without a college education. The Villages is full of people who without a college degree enriched this country with their hard work, amazing families and their wisdom.

Not every person is born to be college material, but that does not make them inferior to me, and to many. We may not all be born with the ability to turn a phrase, always spell correctly and show off skills that in the grand scheme of things aren't always that valuable.

Every person, no matter what their I.Q., amount of money and possessions, no matter their education or lack of it is born valuable. We may not all be born to be the center for the Celtics, the person who unlocks the secrets of DNA, able to mesmerize with our singing ability or have head turning physical beauty, but we are all people who have hearts and feelings, and most of us are doing the best we can. And that is treasured by those who have deeper perception.

But that doesn't mean they can't be kind. The kids today may have more material goods (and not all do) but they also have more stress and pressure in their lives than ever before.

[Abby10]

A formal education past high school is now crucial for many careers. But many older people did not attend college, not because they weren't college material, but simply because they didn't have the means. People often became very successful and powerful and established businesses that employed many people without a college education. The Villages is full of people who without a college degree enriched this country with their hard work, amazing families and their wisdom.

Not every person is born to be college material, but that does not make them inferior to me, and to many. We may not all be born with the ability to turn a phrase, always spell correctly and show off skills that in the grand scheme of things aren't always that valuable.

Every person, no matter what their I.Q., amount of money and possessions, no matter their education or lack of it is born valuable. We may not all be born to be the center for the Celtics, the person who unlocks the secrets of DNA, able to mesmerize with our singing ability or have head turning physical beauty, but we are all people who have hearts and feelings, and most of us are doing the best we can. And that is treasured by those who have deeper perception.

This is a great post, Gracie. I really admire those who have become successful through hard work and entrepreneurial thinking who haven't necessarily had the luxury of higher education or have simply chosen another path besides college. In fact, I often find I learn a lot more from these brave souls than from my colleagues.

Their independent and courageous spirit to me is what the American dream is all about. And they come about in all generations.

[Allegiance]

And woman love men that are handy.This is a great post, Gracie. I really admire those who have become successful through hard work and entrepreneurial thinking who haven't necessarily had the luxury of higher education or have simply chose another path besides college. In fact, I often find I learn a lot more from these brave souls than from my colleagues.

Their independent and courageous spirit to me is what the American dream is all about. And they come about in all generations.

[Abby10]

And woman love men that are handy.

And ones that can cook......at least that's what I tell my son. However sometimes one generation doesn't think the other generation knows what they're talking about. :undecided:

[graciegirl]

And ones that can cook......at least that's what I tell my son. However sometimes one generation doesn't think the other generation knows what they're talking about. :undecided:

And they are missing out. Can't wait to have our 27 year old granddaughter visit us again in a couple of weeks. She calls a couple of times a week and sometimes we engage in debates, but we each walk away with added knowledge and intact love. She grew up just a few blocks from us and we had the privilege of REALLY knowing each other. She and her mother and aunt have added so much to our lives with their amazing insights. We learn so much from them. Hope we add to their lives too.

[ColdNoMore]

But that doesn't mean they can't be kind. The kids today may have more material goods (and not all do) but they also have more stress and pressure in their lives than ever before.

Yep...exactly! :thumbup:


And of course, they also have to endure the boorish behavior of some who try to constantly tell them that they are inferior...simply because they are younger than the person lecturing them. :oops:

[graciegirl]

sigh

[Abby10]

Yep...exactly! :thumbup:


And of course, they also have to endure the boorish behavior of some who try to constantly tell them that they are inferior...simply because they are younger than the person lecturing them. :oops:

I'm glad I don't know these people of whom you speak. All my life, whether it be my family, work, neighborhoods I have lived in, etc, I have not known people who treat other people with such inferiority because of generational differences.

I'm lost in the repetitive negativity of your posts because I just can't relate.

[Abby10]

Actually, you DO know some...of whom I speak. ;)



LOL :1rotfl:


I get how some folks become discombobulated when simple facts are stated, that conflict with their emotional feelings...but that's the only way I know how to roll. :ho:


And if you really paid attention, you would see that I have a pretty good sense of humor...and am often self-deprecating.


I also avoid a lot of rebuttals to the plethora of personal attacks from the 'bully clique,' but I will readily admit to not being perfect...and sometimes slip.


Like now. :D

Glad you enjoyed that.

I stand by my post.

[Bucco]

I'm glad I don't know these people of whom you speak. All my life, whether it be my family, work, neighborhoods I have lived in, etc, I have not known people who treat other people with such inferiority because of generational differences.

I'm lost in the repetitive negativity of your posts because I just can't relate.

You need to read this forum more closely.

This is a series of judgements and negativity based on generational differences.

My problem, I suppose, is that this very thread by its existence is a reflection of that thought process.

People NEVER need to be branded by age, race, education, ethnic history or religion.

People are people...period. Are we different in many ways...yep and that is what makes this country so great and the world so exciting.

I find constantly harping on any of those differences to be sadly very telling.

A good honest person is a good honest person...no matter his/her race religion, age, etc. I find labeling in anyway to be treating others differently.

Anyone who posts or reads these threads is aware of the reality of the situation.

[ColdNoMore]

You need to read this forum more closely.

This is a series of judgements and negativity based on generational differences.

My problem, I suppose, is that this very thread by its existence is a reflection of that thought process.

People NEVER need to be branded by age, race, education, ethnic history or religion.

People are people...period. Are we different in many ways...yep and that is what makes this country so great and the world so exciting.

I find constantly harping on any of those differences to be sadly very telling.

A good honest person is a good honest person...no matter his/her race religion, age, etc. I find labeling in anyway to be treating others differently.

Anyone who posts or reads these threads is aware of the reality of the situation.


Well stated...and factual! :thumbup:

[Allegiance]

Glad you enjoyed that.

I stand by my post.How does it feel going through life discombobulated?

NOTHING could be worse. [emoji41][emoji16]

Impersonation of Edith Bunker All in the Family - YouTube (https://youtu.be/UZ5yj0l64R4)

[Abby10]

You need to read this forum more closely.

This is a series of judgements and negativity based on generational differences.

My problem, I suppose, is that this very thread by its existence is a reflection of that thought process.

People NEVER need to be branded by age, race, education, ethnic history or religion.

People are people...period. Are we different in many ways...yep and that is what makes this country so great and the world so exciting.

I find constantly harping on any of those differences to be sadly very telling.

A good honest person is a good honest person...no matter his/her race religion, age, etc. I find labeling in anyway to be treating others differently.

Anyone who posts or reads these threads is aware of the reality of the situation.

I don't know anyone like that personally, was my statement. I don't disagree that there may be some, but I tend to believe it is a very small number. To continue to harp on that small number creates an illusion that it is a bigger problem than it really is.

If you've ever made a point to work with a difficult person (call it "killing them with kindness" and not relenting) you will find that most people's issues are not what you thought they were. Once they are broken of their negativity, it is the most satisfying thing one can experience. I see a lot of sick people in my chosen career. Sick in many ways - physically, emotionally, mentally and spiritually. The most rewarding moments of my job have been working with people whom others have deemed too difficult to bother, and then watching these kinds of breakthroughs happen and being able to see the real person underneath shine through.

That's why I prefer not to generalize where people are concerned, be it generationally or in any other manner. By doing so, you will often miss a blessing. If you notice in my original post on here, I mentioned using generalizations regarding eras in which we were born, but then went on to speak about the uniqueness of individuals no matter the generation.

[Allegiance]

I don't know anyone like that personally, was my statement. I don't disagree that there may be some, but I tend to believe it is a very small number. To continue to harp on that small number creates an illusion that it is a bigger problem than it really is.

If you've ever made a point to work with a difficult person (call it "killing them with kindness" and not relenting) you will find that most people's issues are not what you thought they were. Once they are broken of their negativity, it is the most satisfying thing one can experience. I see a lot of sick people in my chosen career. Sick in many ways - physically, emotionally, mentally and spiritually. The most rewarding moments of my job have been working with people whom others have deemed too difficult to bother, and then watching these kinds of breakthroughs happen and being able to see the real person underneath shine through.

That's why I prefer not to generalize where people are concerned, be it generationally or in any other manner. By doing so, you will often miss a blessing. If you notice in my original post on here, I mentioned using generalizations regarding eras in which we were born, but then went on to speak about the uniqueness of individuals no matter the generation.Well said Edith

[Abby10]

Well said Edith

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[manaboutown]

I'm glad I don't know these people of whom you speak. All my life, whether it be my family, work, neighborhoods I have lived in, etc, I have not known people who treat other people with such inferiority because of generational differences.

I'm lost in the repetitive negativity of your posts because I just can't relate.

:agree:

Nor can I.

[tomwed]

I don't know anyone like that personally, was my statement. I don't disagree that there may be some, but I tend to believe it is a very small number. To continue to harp on that small number creates an illusion that it is a bigger problem than it really is.

If you've ever made a point to work with a difficult person (call it "killing them with kindness" and not relenting) you will find that most people's issues are not what you thought they were. Once they are broken of their negativity, it is the most satisfying thing one can experience. I see a lot of sick people in my chosen career. Sick in many ways - physically, emotionally, mentally and spiritually. The most rewarding moments of my job have been working with people whom others have deemed too difficult to bother, and then watching these kinds of breakthroughs happen and being able to see the real person underneath shine through.

That's why I prefer not to generalize where people are concerned, be it generationally or in any other manner. By doing so, you will often miss a blessing. If you notice in my original post on here, I mentioned using generalizations regarding eras in which we were born, but then went on to speak about the uniqueness of individuals no matter the generation.
You must have a lot of patients.

[ColdNoMore]

You must have a lot of patients.

I see what you did there. :1rotfl:



(I'm a sucker for clever puns) :D

[fw102807]

I also avoid a lot of rebuttals to the plethora of personal attacks from the 'bully clique,' but I will readily admit to not being perfect...and sometimes slip.


Like now. :D

I know what you mean. I keep telling myself this is futile and I am not going to do it anymore and then get sucked right back in.

[Allegiance]

I know what you mean. I keep telling myself this is futile and I am not going to do it anymore and then get sucked right back in.Just when i thought i was out, they pull me back in - YouTube (https://youtu.be/8wJ7pmlCp-8)

[fw102807]

Just when i thought i was out, they pull me back in - YouTube (https://youtu.be/8wJ7pmlCp-8)

More like this

Resistance is Futile! - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtEaR1JU-ps)

[tomwed]

More like this

Resistance is Futile! - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtEaR1JU-ps) nevermind

[Kenswing]

Actually, you DO know some...of whom I speak. ;)



LOL :1rotfl:


I get how some folks become discombobulated when simple facts are stated, that conflict with their emotional feelings...but that's the only way I know how to roll. :ho:


And if you really paid attention, you would see that I have a pretty good sense of humor...and am often self-deprecating.


I also avoid a lot of rebuttals to the plethora of personal attacks from the 'bully clique,' but I will readily admit to not being perfect...and sometimes slip.


Like now. :D

I hope you didn't dislocated your shoulder patting yourself on the back.

And in your signature you profess to stand up to bullies? That just cracks me up. I bet you're also in the habit of calling the kettle black.. :ho:

[fw102807]

Do you know what they say when you tell someone they are assumelated?

Something about ass u me

[Kenswing]

And ones that can cook......at least that's what I tell my son. However sometimes one generation doesn't think the other generation knows what they're talking about. :undecided:I can cook and my wife loves me for it.. :wave:

[tomwed]

Something about ass u me
I'm not sure because it seems to include you, me and my late uncle ed. I thought I could make it work without being offensive. That's never my intention.
I certainly jumped too soon. I'll make it go away.

[fw102807]

I'm not sure because it seems to include you, me and my late uncle ed. I thought I could make it work without being offensive. That's never my intention.
I certainly jumped too soon. I'll make it go away.

I was not offended. I thought it was clever.

"to make an ass out of u and me. verb. To believe something is true based upon general unproven observations and reports. Coining up a foolish, humorous insinuation about somebody or something that is probably not valid. To make a complete idiot out of yourself or another person by saying that something happened that ..."

[ColdNoMore]

I hope you didn't dislocated your shoulder patting yourself on the back.

And in your signature you profess to stand up to bullies? That just cracks me up. I bet you're also in the habit of calling the kettle black..




I also avoid a lot of rebuttals to the plethora of personal attacks from the 'bully clique,' but I will readily admit to not being perfect...and sometimes slip.


:ho:

[ColdNoMore]

I know what you mean. I keep telling myself this is futile and I am not going to do it anymore and then get sucked right back in.

Yep. :thumbup:


Some days I'm better at it... than others. :D

[Abby10]

You must have a lot of patients.

Haha, Tom......always the one to find the humor in just about anything. Thanks for bringing levity to our world. We sure as heck need it!

[Abby10]

I can cook and my wife loves me for it.. :wave:

Yeah, quit rubbing it in.....lol

But speaking of that, how much more important are these things with this generation because of the times? I think a lot, with more women not only in the workplace, but often ending up as the real breadwinners in our society as it is today.

[CFrance]

I was not offended. I thought it was clever.

"to make an ass out of u and me. verb. To believe something is true based upon general unproven observations and reports. Coining up a foolish, humorous insinuation about somebody or something that is probably not valid. To make a complete idiot out of yourself or another person by saying that something happened that ..."
Hey, that's good. I forgot about that one.

[manaboutown]

I hope you didn't dislocated your shoulder patting yourself on the back.

And in your signature you profess to stand up to bullies? That just cracks me up. I bet you're also in the habit of calling the kettle black.. :ho:

:beer3:

My grandmother used to say "An empty barrel makes the most noise."

[ColdNoMore]

My grandmother used to say "An empty barrel makes the most noise."

Mine used to say... "Bullies run in packs." :beer3:

[fw102807]

Enough now go to your rooms!

[ColdNoMore]

Enough now go to your rooms!

Excellent idea. :thumbup:


I'm not sure that's possible though, given that so far only the lightweights have piped up...in the personal attacks toward me. :D

[tomwed]

The nuns use to say empty barrels make the most noise starting in fist grade. By the time you get to second grade you heard it so many times you can complete the sentence.
We had no idea what it meant. I thought you had to stick your head in a barrel and yell real loud to make a lot of noise. Who would expect a six year old to picture their mind as a vessel? But we did know that if the nun says it, it must be true and quietly nodding yes is better then getting hit.

[manaboutown]

The nuns use to say empty barrels make the most noise starting in fist grade. By the time you get to second grade you heard it so many times you can complete the sentence.
We had no idea what it meant. I thought you had to stick your head in a barrel and yell real loud to make a lot of noise. Who would expect a six year old to picture their mind as a vessel? But we did know that if the nun says it, it must be true and quietly nodding yes is better then getting hit.

What is the meaning of the saying 'an empty barrel makes the most noise'? How did it first come into existence? - Quora (https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-meaning-of-the-saying-an-empty-barrel-makes-the-most-noise-How-did-it-first-come-into-existence)

[fw102807]

The nuns were in my experience a scary lot. I became disallusioned with the Catholic religion a long time ago but thanks to the nuns still carry the guilt.

[tomwed]

What is the meaning of the saying 'an empty barrel makes the most noise'? How did it first come into existence? - Quora (https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-meaning-of-the-saying-an-empty-barrel-makes-the-most-noise-How-did-it-first-come-into-existence)
I don't have to read that. I know it was Sister Jovita in Immaculate Conception School who first said it.