Fenny exisiting Home $$$ increased

[kstew43]

So we have been watching 3 particular homes in Fenny that we just might be interested in for the past 11 months or so since they were newy built.

We noticed the other day that all 3 homes had a price increase of $1000, maybe more because I tend to not notice the last 3 numbers and rather pay attention to the first 3. $429,??? is now $430,???....

Hubby believes and I concur, that because we all know "build out is a myth" that the new sales tactic is for sales agents to say, buy the home today as the price of this home is going up tommorrow?


.hummmm

[tom_sjc]

We had a list of houses we were interested and we noticed recently price drops of 12-15K on several of them. We've been watching 8-10 houses over the past 4 months; most are still available. Seems like there are plenty of houses available in our price range.

[Marathon Man]

Doesn't seem to me that tactics are needed at all. Clearly, construction and sales are moving right along.

[raynan]

Usually a markdown sale in July.

[Lottoguy]

Don't forget to look at preowned homes. Many already have thousands in upgrades.

[VillageIdiots]

They are clearly adjusting prices to supply and demand, up or down accordingly. A house sits long enough, they may adjust the price down to move it. A popular model low in stock they may up it a bit. I just bought a Veranda home in Fenney a couple of weeks ago. There were 2 for sale with the same floor plan, both having water views. We settled on one of them and noticed the other one, about a week later, went up about 1000 dollars. We've been keeping close tabs since almost a year ago when we decided to sell our home to relocated to TV. There was one home in Osceola Hills that we looked at. Over our budget but we looked at it. Beautiful home with a huge pool and outdoor lanai and birdcage area, with a lot of upgrades. That home stayed on the market for a long long time as we watched it on the website. As great as the home was, it sat right beside one of the gates and within spitting distance of a neighborhood pool. The price was adjusted down several times until it finally sold not that long ago.

[Toymeister]

Let's keep your math on point. One grand at that price point is .2% annual inflation. Even four or five grand sounds reasonable, a bargain.

[VillageIdiots]

Where is any math, correct or incorrect, above? Just observations about prices going up or down, a little or not so little, and pontificating as to possibly why that is. Inflation could be a factor, but there is no denying that sometimes prices are cut and sometimes they are increased, if you watch closely enough. You'll also notice, in Fenney, that some homes will have an advertised "discount" while others do not. It's called business and marketing. They didn't invent it but they are certainly very good at it.

[manaboutown]

It's called marketing. Car dealers, retailers and developers all do it. If a business can't move a product at a given price they reduce the price after a period of time to move it. If a product is in high demand they can sell it quickly at whatever price the market will bear.

[ColdNoMore]

I'm guessing the price increases are an effort...to make up for a lack of golf cart sales.






(J/K....sorta) :D

[VillageIdiots]

I'm guessing the price increases are an effort...to make up for a lack of golf cart sales.






(J/K....sorta) :D

I heard beer sales dipped. Maybe it’s a veiled attempt to make up the difference.

:popcorn:

[New Englander]

I heard beer sales dipped. Maybe it’s a veiled attempt to make up the difference.

:popcorn:

:a20: No chance of that happening.

[vintageogauge]

Don't forget to look at preowned homes. Many already have thousands in upgrades.

This post is about Fenney, and there are very few resales down here.

[vintageogauge]

Where is any math, correct or incorrect, above? Just observations about prices going up or down, a little or not so little, and pontificating as to possibly why that is. Inflation could be a factor, but there is no denying that sometimes prices are cut and sometimes they are increased, if you watch closely enough. You'll also notice, in Fenney, that some homes will have an advertised "discount" while others do not. It's called business and marketing. They didn't invent it but they are certainly very good at it.

Most of the discounted homes down here are the new Court Yard Villas as they are in direct competition with the Designer Verandas both having fenced in yards. Other than those villas, there are a handful that are built up against 468 with a wall behind them, needless to say they are not selling well but really great deals even before the price reductions if you can take the road noise, they would be great rental investments.

[ColdNoMore]

Most of the discounted homes down here are the new Court Yard Villas as they are in direct competition with the Designer Verandas both having fenced in yards. Other than those villas, there are a handful that are built up against 468 with a wall behind them, needless to say they are not selling well but really great deals even before the price reductions if you can take the road noise, they would be great rental investments.

With all of the new homes, and I'm sure, subsequent commercial development...that could be a real issue in the near future.

[tomwed]

I noticed the Alder model in Finney use to be called the Allamander. I wonder why they rename them. What makes it unique is that it is poured concrete not block. I think it is the least expensive stucco designer home.

[ColdNoMore]

I noticed the Alder model in Finney use to be called the Allamander. I wonder why they rename them. What makes it unique is that it is poured concrete not block. I think it is the least expensive stucco designer home.

Did you mean 'Allamanda?'

Or did they have a model named 'Allamander?'

[VillageIdiots]

I noticed the Alder model in Finney use to be called the Allamander. I wonder why they rename them. What makes it unique is that it is poured concrete not block. I think it is the least expensive stucco designer home.

Likely marketing, like much of the rest of this thread. If you look at the Veranda homes, I believe they are all existing designer home models, but when they make a Veranda home out of it, they call it by a different name. The Veranda I bought is called a Hillsdale but is the same home as the Mossy Oak designer floor plan. What is it they say about a rose by another name? This is not a new tactic and in some ways it helps avoid confusion. Many of the designer homes are called one name when they are stucco construction and called something else when vinyl sided versions of the same floor plan.

[tomwed]

Did you mean 'Allamanda?'

Or did they have a model named 'Allamander?'If you are from NJ, and pronounce oil, earl, the Villages sell an Allamander model that looks the same and cost the same as the Allamanda but feels more like home.
They don't miss a trick.

[golf2140]

I'm sure The Villages owners will figure out the pricing of homes one of these days !!!!

[ColdNoMore]

If you are from NJ, and pronounce oil, earl, the Villages sell an Allamander model that looks the same and cost the same as the Allamanda but feels more like home.
They don't miss a trick.

Gotcha. :1rotfl:

[VApeople]

Don't forget to look at preowned homes. Many already have thousands in upgrades.

Yeah, but a lot of the upgrades could be things you may not want, like summer kitchens, crown molding, or driveway pavers.

In addition, a lot of people watch HGTV and believe the hosts when they say, "These $50K upgrades increased the value of the house by $80K." Dream on.

[vintageogauge]

Likely marketing, like much of the rest of this thread. If you look at the Veranda homes, I believe they are all existing designer home models, but when they make a Veranda home out of it, they call it by a different name. The Veranda I bought is called a Hillsdale but is the same home as the Mossy Oak designer floor plan. What is it they say about a rose by another name? This is not a new tactic and in some ways it helps avoid confusion. Many of the designer homes are called one name when they are stucco construction and called something else when vinyl sided versions of the same floor plan.

There are changes made in the models due to not having a lawn area on one side of the house they eliminated windows. The Midland model is an Ivy without sliders in the kitchen and a smaller lanai to accommodate a concrete slab and windows filled in on the non-lawn area side. In any event they are selling the veranda models at a fast pace.

[vintageogauge]

With all of the new homes, and I'm sure, subsequent commercial development...that could be a real issue in the near future.

There is no road noise inside Fenney it is just on the perimeter homes along 468 and that is why they have been discounted. Future development will not increase road noise except for that particular area. They are great deals if you are used to hearing cars and trucks. I'm sure the homes built along 466A, 466, Buena Vista, and Morse were discounted also when they were new as there is a lot of traffic on those roads also.

[JP]

I just talked to a friend of mine last night that told me his realtor said prices were going up $6-9,000 in June in the Fenney/Desota area and now would be the time to buy. Realtor said they were just out of a sales meeting(two days ago) and this is what was told to them. Rumor? Sales ploy? Time will tell.

[graciegirl]

I just talked to a friend of mine last night that told me his realtor said prices were going up $6-9,000 in June in the Fenney/Desota area and now would be the time to buy. Realtor said they were just out of a sales meeting(two days ago) and this is what was told to them. Rumor? Sales ploy? Time will tell.

I have heard time and time again that no future changes are EVER discussed in meetings with Villages reps. Our rep has told us several times that when a change happens, THEY hear it at the same time there is a general announcement to the public.

[manaboutown]

I just talked to a friend of mine last night that told me his realtor said prices were going up $6-9,000 in June in the Fenney/Desota area and now would be the time to buy. Realtor said they were just out of a sales meeting(two days ago) and this is what was told to them. Rumor? Sales ploy? Time will tell.

Realtor??? If you are writing about Villages reps they are not Realtors.

[kstew43]

I'm not so sure that raising the existing home prices in Fenny and Desota 6k to 9k will sell many new homes. I think its a sales tactic...

But I do think, that just maybe, raising new home prices will help out resales in the upper villages proper.

That might just be a good thing for people selling there homes.

[vintageogauge]

Realtor??? If you are writing about Villages reps they are not Realtors.

A realtor is an agent selling property so yes, they are realtors.

[vintageogauge]

I'm not so sure that raising the existing home prices in Fenny and Desota 6k to 9k will sell many new homes. I think its a sales tactic...

But I do think, that just maybe, raising new home prices will help out resales in the upper villages proper.

That might just be a good thing for people selling there homes.

If the increase is true, it's 2% after a year of selling, that is to be expected. According to todays paper TV agents sold 2,200 new homes and 2,200 re-sales in 2017. That ratio will most likely stay the same for 2018.

[kstew43]

A realtor is an agent selling property so yes, they are realtors.

To be a Realtor, you must be a member of the Board of Realtors in the county you would like to sell homes. You must pay your fees which can run between $500 upwards to $1000's per year and this entitles you to access to the MLS (Multiply Listing Service) and gives you access to any listings on that service with a lock box code or chip.

A Villages sales agent, is not a Realtor, they did pass the state license exam to enable them to sell real estate, but they do not pay to be a member of the board of Realtors so have no access to MLS. They can sell only Village properties listed with the builders broker. Therefore they are considered sales agents.

[tomwed]

Does anyone remember how much the least expensive home that's gone now, cost?

Did it have one or two bedrooms?

[kstew43]

Does anyone remember how much the least expensive home that's gone now, cost?

Did it have one or two bedrooms?

1 bedroom, patio villa with no screen porch $135,000

[graciegirl]

To be a Realtor, you must be a member of the Board of Realtors in the county you would like to sell homes. You must pay your fees which can run between $500 upwards to $1000's per year and this entitles you to access to the MLS (Multiply Listing Service) and gives you access to any listings on that service with a lock box code or chip.

A Villages sales agent, is not a Realtor, they did pass the state license exam to enable them to sell real estate, but they do not pay to be a member of the board of Realtors so have no access to MLS. They can sell only Village properties listed with the builders broker. Therefore they are considered sales agents.

I doubt few care except for the folks who belong to the club who CANNOT sell new properties and who sometimes post negative things about new areas where only new properties are sold.

[manaboutown]

To refer to a real estate agent who is not a member of NAR as a Realtor is improper and misleading. It is analogous to calling any old jeans "Levi's" when they are not Levi's but another brand.

"Trademark infringement is the unauthorized use of a trademark or service mark on or in connection with goods and/or services in a manner that is likely to cause confusion, deception, or mistake about the source of the goods and/or services."

"The NAR has begun citing members for using the term “REALTOR®” to indicate a person’s occupation rather than their membership in the Association. If your marketing is similar to these examples, use “Real Estate Agent” instead of “REALTOR®” or you will also receive a notice from NAR. The REALTOR® marks serve the special function of identifying members of the National Association and should never be used interchangeably with terms such as: real estate agent; broker; salesperson. While HRRA encourages members to proudly display the REALTOR® logo on their marketing and branding pieces, members should make themselves knowledgable on issues of proper use."
http://www.hrra.com/_docs/media/trademark.pdf

[manaboutown]

To be a Realtor, you must be a member of the Board of Realtors in the county you would like to sell homes. You must pay your fees which can run between $500 upwards to $1000's per year and this entitles you to access to the MLS (Multiply Listing Service) and gives you access to any listings on that service with a lock box code or chip.

A Villages sales agent, is not a Realtor, they did pass the state license exam to enable them to sell real estate, but they do not pay to be a member of the board of Realtors so have no access to MLS. They can sell only Village properties listed with the builders broker. Therefore they are considered sales agents.

:agree:

Disclaimer: Although I hold a real estate broker's license in the state of New Mexico I am not a Realtor, have never been a Realtor and have no intention of becoming a Realtor.

[tomwed]

1 bedroom, patio villa with no screen porch $135,000Does anyone remember what the least expensive 2 bedroom patio sold for? I tried looking this up and I sent an email to the salesperson who sold me my home. And I appreciate you for taking the time to reply.

[vintageogauge]

Those "non-realtors" sold 4,400 new and used homes in TV last year, That's a lot of homes and they most likely don't care what title they have as long as they are selling. I have nothing against MLS agents but I think down here in this unique atmosphere The Villages agents are kept more up to date on what is going on and what is going to be. Either way they all get sold eventually as long as the sellers don't get greedy. Are prices going to go up? Of course they are if for no other reason the cost of material and labor keeps going up. A little off topic but the furniture stores around here must be loving the continuing growth along with many other retailers and service oriented businesses.

[VillageIdiots]

There are plenty of MLS agents/brokers out there, all over the country, who aren't "Realtors" and they do just fine. As noted above, Realtor has become a generic term to describe one who is licensed to sell real estate. Generally, the only people who take offense to that are the ones who have invested the time and money to become certified "Realtors". When I was a kid, I remember my friends referring to any dirt bike motorcycle as a Honda, no matter if it was a Yamaha or something else. I have heard people refer to Pepsi as "Coke". This is not a new concept.

[manaboutown]

Post #35 cites evidence of the NAR policing its mark; if it fails to sufficiently do so "Realtor" could of course become generic

Here is more: Trademark Protection Program | www.nar.realtor (https://www.nar.realtor/membership-marks-manual/trademark-protection-program)

"Generic Use
A trademark can be lost due to genericity, or the process of becoming generic over time, if the owner doesn't promptly object to people using the mark as an ordinary verb or noun. Terms like "thermos," "aspirin," and "cellophane" were once corporate trademarks, but lost their trademark status once the terms passed into the general public lexicon. Courts include the degree to which a trademark owner has policed her trademark as a factor considered when determining whether trademark protection should be voided due to genericity."

[kstew43]

Does anyone remember what the least expensive 2 bedroom patio sold for? I tried looking this up and I sent an email to the salesperson who sold me my home. And I appreciate you for taking the time to reply.

If I remember correctly, when Fenny first came on the market last year, the cheapest 2/2 1.5 car garage was $153....? and the 2/2/2 car garages were going for $156?

We were considering one of them back then....I can't be exact off hand but I believe I am very close, but if you really want to know for sure, check out the sumter county tax records, square footage for patios and it will tell you the exact amount.

[tomwed]

If I remember correctly, when Fenny first came on the market last year, the cheapest 2/2 1.5 car garage was $153....? and the 2/2/2 car garages were going for $156?

We were considering one of them back then....I can't be exact off hand but I believe I am very close, but if you really want to know for sure, check out the sumter county tax records, square footage for patios and it will tell you the exact amount.

thanks

[kstew43]

I doubt few care except for the folks who belong to the club who CANNOT sell new properties and who sometimes post negative things about new areas where only new properties are sold.

when people ask the questions, and they did, I answer them.....

:boom:

[vintageogauge]

there were patio villas down here around $140,000 last year.

[tomwed]

there were patio villas down here around $140,000 last year.
thanks

[EnglishJW]

Likely marketing, like much of the rest of this thread. If you look at the Veranda homes, I believe they are all existing designer home models, but when they make a Veranda home out of it, they call it by a different name. The Veranda I bought is called a Hillsdale but is the same home as the Mossy Oak designer floor plan. What is it they say about a rose by another name? This is not a new tactic and in some ways it helps avoid confusion. Many of the designer homes are called one name when they are stucco construction and called something else when vinyl sided versions of the same floor plan.

This is exactly what they do. The agents usually have a sheet showing the different names side by side.

[EnglishJW]

Yeah, but a lot of the upgrades could be things you may not want, like summer kitchens, crown molding, or driveway pavers.

In addition, a lot of people watch HGTV and believe the hosts when they say, "These $50K upgrades increased the value of the house by $80K." Dream on.

We agree completely with this comment. We are so tired of shiplap, open concept everything (no, the house doesn't get bigger because you remove walls), and increases in value that significantly exceed the costs of the improvements. HGTV just replays the same tunes over and over. We love the fact that contractors appear instantaneously, permits are granted virtually on the spot, and time delays just don't happen.

[manaboutown]

There are plenty of MLS agents/brokers out there, all over the country, who aren't "Realtors" and they do just fine.

Only in some states - and areas therein - and under specific conditions can non-Realtor agents gain access to the MLS. Of course they have to pay a fee; but that fee is less than it costs to be a member Realtor. It just depends.

Non-Member Access to REALTOR(R) Association Multiple Listing Services | www.nar.realtor (https://www.nar.realtor/legal/non-member-access-to-realtor-association-multiple-listing-services)

[Chatbrat]

Buy the house to enjoy, not to make $$ on--and if you have to think about $1K on a house--maybe TV won't fit your lifestyle

[Jimf2018]

It seems that with a high inventory of new houses that someone purchasing a new home in The Villages should pay less than the asking price. For example, if the asking is $300,000, would an offer of $270,000 be appropriate? What is your experience?

Especially interested in recent experiences and the village of Fenney.

Thanks!

[Banaporg]

If you mean buying brand new directly from The Villages the answer is NO. You cannot offer less than the asking price not even a penny less. Resales yes but if I were asking $300,000 and an offer came in at 270,000 I’d counter at 330,000 unless the market was dead and I was desperate to get out. Just my humble opinion...

[vintageogauge]

If you mean buying brand new directly from The Villages the answer is NO. You cannot offer less than the asking price not even a penny less. Resales yes but if I were asking $300,000 and an offer came in at 270,000 I’d counter at 330,000 unless the market was dead and I was desperate to get out. Just my humble opinion...

Agree. don't waste your time making an offer on a new home. If they have dead inventory they will mark it down themselves but the agents will not write up anything lower than the asking price.

[Susan Schonfeld]

All depends on upgrades and how well the house was maintained. The beautiful ones go quick at a higher price and the ones that people hardly did anything to and don't show great will sit and sell at a much lower price

[jimbo2012]

Does anyone remember what the least expensive 2 bedroom patio sold for? I tried looking this up and I sent an email to the salesperson who sold me my home. And I appreciate you for taking the time to reply.

6 years ago they were under $130K

[mellincf]

I was in real estate for 35 years. Hello, supply and demand. And I never would buy "full priced retail" but some do. It's the same as buying a new car vs. a used car, your choice. One of the most curious things I ever found during my career were the people who bought homes for the large, bright windows and then when I went back to visit they had covered all those "large, bright windows" with heavy curtains. Go figure.

[genobambino]

We have been here 9 years, and it's amazing how much they adjust the prices up and down. We bought a new home about a year ago and the house next door to us went up a little over $20,000, in a short period of time. It's a big game they play

[graciegirl]

We have been here 9 years, and it's amazing how much they adjust the prices up and down. We bought a new home about a year ago and the house next door to us went up a little over $20,000, in a short period of time. It's a big game they play

It is called business.

[manaboutown]

I was in real estate for 35 years. Hello, supply and demand. And I never would buy "full priced retail" but some do. It's the same as buying a new car vs. a used car, your choice. One of the most curious things I ever found during my career were the people who bought homes for the large, bright windows and then when I went back to visit they had covered all those "large, bright windows" with heavy curtains. Go figure.

I bought my first house in 1967 and have held a real estate broker's license since 1976. During that period I have snapped up an occasional property at asking price, locking it up ahead of backup offers which occurred because it was a hot property, a hot market, or both. Most of the time one can of course negotiate an asking price down. It depends. A couple of months ago my daughter got her Aliso Viejo, CA condo under contract within four days. It needed new carpeting, a total paint job and was not staged. She received five offers within two days of it going on the market. She accepted a cash offer well above her asking price. It closed right on time, no problem. Hot market action!

The Villages is a spectacularly successful development. As a highly sophisticated business entity the developer constantly resets prices to adjust them to what the market will bear, sell off stale inventory and for various other reasons. Your local car dealer, furniture store and grocer do the same.

[Lil GTO]

Agree with that completely. Your money is as safe as it can be in these times invested in Villages property.

[bebemary]

The village REPS have a real estate license but they are not Realtors. They are in effect an employee of developer as they cannot sell property outside of the villages. They work like a licensed builder rep. you are familiar with in non-village communities. They only sell the builders properties even tho they have a Real Estate license from their board.

[manaboutown]

The village REPS have a real estate license but they are not Realtors. They are in effect an employee of developer as they cannot sell property outside of the villages. They work like a licensed builder rep. you are familiar with in non-village communities. They only sell the builders properties even tho they have a Real Estate license from their board.

They are more likely independent contractors, not employees, although I really do not know. As I understand it most real estate agents, including Realtors, are independent contractors.

[graciegirl]

We have gone to eat at Fenney Grill several times now. It seems that each time we drive down there the area is growing in front of our eyes. The porch at the Fenney Grill reminds me of a Girl Scout Camp Cottage Porch and the view to the spectacular Family pool is so beautiful with all of those towering oaks. It seems so private and so in the country.

We always take a spin through the Village of Fenney, now becoming the new Village of DeSoto. The residents show the same sense of property pride you see everywhere in The Villages. It is so beautiful.

It is hard to believe that there wasn't one single house south of 466A just shy of eight years ago. All of the landscaping and trees in the common areas and near the homes look like it has always been there.

I am so proud to call this place, The Villages, home.

[vintageogauge]

We were told today at the sales office that all existing inventory as well as new builds selling prices are being increased by $6,500 to $8,000 on June 4th.

[coconutmama]

Agree with that completely. Your money is as safe as it can be in these times invested in Villages property.

For now I think this is true, but history does repeat itself. It was about 10 years ago that the nation, including The Villages, had a real estate bubble that burst. The combination of a lack of banking regulations & inflated prices led to trouble, which took a long time to get out of.

That being said, I would not hesitate to buy in Fenney. But expect to pay full price for a new home or negotiate on a pre-owned one (which there are a few in that village).

I am curious to see what the prices on the new builds, as they get constructed back up towards Rte 44, will be.

I too heard today, while golfing with a Villages employee in the sales office, that prices were going up next month.

[coconutmama]

There is no road noise inside Fenney it is just on the perimeter homes along 468 and that is why they have been discounted. Future development will not increase road noise except for that particular area. They are great deals if you are used to hearing cars and trucks. I'm sure the homes built along 466A, 466, Buena Vista, and Morse were discounted also when they were new as there is a lot of traffic on those roads also.

No, homes that back to roads are not discounted. Some people prefer them, so as not to be too close to a neighbor's lanai. We back to Morse & like it. Seldom noisy. Lots to see.

[vintageogauge]

No, homes that back to roads are not discounted. Some people prefer them, so as not to be too close to a neighbor's lanai. We back to Morse & like it. Seldom noisy. Lots to see.

468 is 45 MPH 4-lanes, lots of trucks. It will seldom be quiet.

[Odysseus]

I can't understand why people want to live in Fenney. It's in the middle of nowhere, near a federal correction complex, and will have the dust and noise of construction around for years to come.

[8notes]

I can't understand why people want to live in Fenney. It's in the middle of nowhere, near a federal correction complex, and will have the dust and noise of construction around for years to come.

I’m with you. If it was me, I’d buy a preowned in a central location, preferably one that had the bond paid off.

[CindyNah1]

the most important decision of where to live here in the villages is KNOWING YOURSELF. and what brings you JOY.

I choose a pond view near 466 less expensive and all that I need is within a mile. If I were 50 yr old, and had an extra $75,000 for a water view, I would consider something more toward the south
right now Fenney does feel like the "end of the earth" from where I am. I'm sure as it builds up they will have "everything" we have here. I predict a Villages 1 and a Villages II in the long term future. that will be divided by 44
KNOW YOURSELF THEN hire the sales person.

[ColdNoMore]

I’m with you. If it was me, I’d buy a preowned in a central location, preferably one that had the bond paid off.

Yep...exactly what we did. :thumbup:

[vintageogauge]

I can't understand why people want to live in Fenney. It's in the middle of nowhere, near a federal correction complex, and will have the dust and noise of construction around for years to come.

That is part of it, being temporarily disconnected makes for a quiet relaxing rural atmosphere, that is what brought me down her. it's not in the middle of nowhere, less than 10 minutes to Paddock Square/Brownwood, and Rohan along with public, fuel, etc.25 minutes via I-75 to shopping in Ocala or about the same to 27/441 shopping. Retail will be here before you know it both small and large. The correction complex has no affect on Fenney, in over a year I have not hear sirens or seen bright lights, with the new Wildwood land they are going to build all the way around it. The construction is all but over in Fenney so the dust and noise is 95% gone, all of the construction is now in DeSoto and McClure and they have their own construction entrances over there. Fenney is clean and quiet with plenty of amenities. I feel that even after we have golf car access north of 468 and 44 that most people living here will not venture very far up there as with all that is going to be down here there will be no need. You really don't know the feel down here without experiencing it, it's different than other areas of TV, not saying which is better as that is a personal preference but it sure is different, friendly, and peaceful.

[photo1902]

That is part of it, being temporarily disconnected makes for a quiet relaxing rural atmosphere, that is what brought me down her. it's not in the middle of nowhere, less than 10 minutes to Paddock Square/Brownwood, and Rohan along with public, fuel, etc.25 minutes via I-75 to shopping in Ocala or about the same to 27/441 shopping. Retail will be here before you know it both small and large. The correction complex has no affect on Fenney, in over a year I have not hear sirens or seen bright lights, with the new Wildwood land they are going to build all the way around it. The construction is all but over in Fenney so the dust and noise is 95% gone, all of the construction is now in DeSoto and McClure and they have their own construction entrances over there. Fenney is clean and quiet with plenty of amenities. I feel that even after we have golf car access north of 468 and 44 that most people living here will not venture very far up there as with all that is going to be down here there will be no need. You really don't know the feel down here without experiencing it, it's different than other areas of TV, not saying which is better as that is a personal preference but it sure is different, friendly, and peaceful.

It never ceases to amaze me the rudeness of people bashing/criticizing others, based on where they live. Not that long ago there was nothing south of 466A, and people said similar things. Although I don't live in Fenny, I visit, golf and work there frequently, and I love it.

[asianthree]

It seems that with a high inventory of new houses that someone purchasing a new home in The Villages should pay less than the asking price. For example, if the asking is $300,000, would an offer of $270,000 be appropriate? What is your experience?

Especially interested in recent experiences and the village of Fenney.

Thanks!

New houses the price is the price. There’s no negotiating on any new house unless the village is almost closed out and then TV sets a discount

[asianthree]

6 years ago they were under $130K

In 2010, 2/2patio villa with a 1.5 garage started at 128,000, with flat ceilings white appliances and oak cabinets. Depending on the upgrades it went up from there.

If you really want to see what homes are selling for you can just go to the county site plug-in an address and then you can look at how much all of the houses sold for.

[asianthree]

I can't understand why people want to live in Fenney. It's in the middle of nowhere, near a federal correction complex, and will have the dust and noise of construction around for years to come.

If you have purchased a new home here you have lived through the dust in the dirt while a new village is being created. We have purchased two new homes and have live through it. It’s not a big deal.

Last I heard no one here twists your arm,tied you up, and gagged you until you buy a house.
It’s personal preference we all choose to live in the village of our choice.

Not sure why you have such an issue with those who buy and Fenney. If you don’t want to live there just don’t buy a house there. there are many extremely happy people in the village of Fenney, and probably our son will be one of them. I am on the fence as to move for the 4th time, and desend into the quiet of Fenney.

[VApeople]

If you have purchased a new home here you have lived through the dust in the dirt while a new village is being created. . . . It’s not a big deal.

Based on our experience, living in an area where there is construction is a VERY big deal!

We bought our house in Osceola Hills two years ago and there were very few houses around us. When they started building houses around us, it was terrible. The dust was everywhere.

The workers would park in front of our driveway and totally block us in, and I would have to go from house to house to ask someone to move their vehicle. I complained to the warranty office, but they did nothing and eventually just hung up on me.

Someone suggested we call the police and complain that our drive way was being blocked, so we did exactly that. Very soon, an officer showed up at our house and the workers seemed to disappear inside the houses they were working on. I wonder why?

The officer from Wildwood was very nice. He said they do not mind complaints like ours because it helps them find people who have outstanding arrest warrants.

Anyway, he found the person who blocked our driveway and told them to move their vehicle. After that, no one parked in our driveway.

[Emmakrock@yahoo.com]

Actually they are increasing as of June 1. Why? Because they can

[asianthree]

Based on our experience, living in an area where there is construction is a VERY big deal!

We bought our house in Osceola Hills two years ago and there were very few houses around us. When they started building houses around us, it was terrible. The dust was everywhere.

The workers would park in front of our driveway and totally block us in, and I would have to go from house to house to ask someone to move their vehicle. I complained to the warranty office, but they did nothing and eventually just hung up on me.

Someone suggested we call the police and complain that our drive way was being blocked, so we did exactly that. Very soon, an officer showed up at our house and the workers seemed to disappear inside the houses they were working on. I wonder why?

The officer from Wildwood was very nice. He said they do not mind complaints like ours because it helps them find people who have outstanding arrest warrants.

Anyway, he found the person who blocked our driveway and told them to move their vehicle. After that, no one parked in our driveway.

In both villages we were the first homes to be occupied. The workers or always pleasant and never had any problems with them.

We Knew that there was going to be dirt since very few homes were completed. This was our fifth home we have built so no big surprise of the dust and dirt.

Sounds like once workers knew you were living there problem solved with the parking.

I do not worry about things I can not change, life is too short

[Odysseus]

Don't forget the BOND on the new properties (and newer resale properties). It isn't included in the advertised price. Bond runs to five digits now.

[vintageogauge]

Don't forget the BOND on the new properties (and newer resale properties). It isn't included in the advertised price. Bond runs to five digits now.

Why would anyone forget about bond. It's part of the cost of the home. You can pay a bond or have a higher priced house if they include it in the selling price. Either way you're going to pay for it. The older homes with bonds paid off are priced accordingly so you are still paying for it just part of the selling price of those older homes, homes that may well now need a lot of replacements or repairs. The choice is there to be made, pay it now or pay it later but you're going to pay it in the end.

[VillageIdiots]

It never ceases to amaze me the rudeness of people bashing/criticizing others, based on where they live. Not that long ago there was nothing south of 466A, and people said similar things. Although I don't live in Fenny, I visit, golf and work there frequently, and I love it.

I am not sure which post/person you are referring to - perhaps it was rude. However, sometimes people are just giving their opinion and aren't bashing to be rude.

A couple of months ago, when I found out my home was sold and I would soon be relocating to TV, I started a thread here asking if people living in Fenney felt disconnected and weren't feeling like they were getting the full villages experience. It was an innocent question, soliciting opinions, but I was immediately accused of "bashing" Fenney. That was not my intent. My wife was concerned that it wouldn't really feel like TV if she couldn't hop on a golf cart and ride to a shopping area or a town square. Well, for what it's worth, we bought a home in Fenney and we love it. We moved in a week ago today.

[VApeople]

Sounds like once workers knew you were living there problem solved with the parking.


Sounds like once workers knew we would call the police if they blocked our driveway, problem solved with the parking.

[Odysseus]

Vintageoguage, Not all homes in The Villages have bonds. Houses in Lady Lake never had a bond. And the older homes which had bonds are paid off and the price of older homes reflects market value -- which has nothing to do with the paid off bond. New homes sold by Properties of the Villages do not reflect the bond in the advertised home price.

[vintageogauge]

Vintageoguage, Not all homes in The Villages have bonds. Houses in Lady Lake never had a bond. And the older homes which had bonds are paid off and the price of older homes reflects market value -- which has nothing to do with the paid off bond. New homes sold by Properties of the Villages do not reflect the bond in the advertised home price.

What I was saying is if there are two identical homes, lets say in Virginia Trace, one with no bond, one still owing $10,000, they will most likely be priced with a $10,000 difference. The fact that there is no bond does reflect in the asking prices. If the developer chose to pay the bonds on new homes they would be priced $20/$30,000 higher and that would set the market price for new homes being built.

[twoplanekid]

When we secured a loan to purchase our new Village house in 2014, the appraised value of the house interestingly didn’t include the bond payment that was due. While credit checks were preformed to secure the loan, the bond amount was not a factor. The bond amount is one of those weird Village things that is many times not taken into account. However, the bond balance due is a cost to the home owner.

[twoplanekid]

Today, I checked the web site on the new house in Fenney we visited last month to interested my wife's sister in living in the Villages. The house went up $4,000 in price and is now pictured as furnished. Homefinder - The Villages(R) Homes and Villas for Sale (https://www.thevillages.com/homefinder/#/S618.10?new&preowned&homesites&map&lng=-82.01791684047139&lat=28.794268982182437&lvl=11)

my thoughts on 5/24/18
https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-general-discussion-73/real-estate-question-264079/index6.html#post1546913

[Cedwards38]

Financial institution deregulation is heading us back toward a real estate bubble, and possibly another Great Recession. Hang on. We just don't seem to learn that thing about history repeating when we make the same mistakes.

[Nova Filtration]

If it includes the furniture it really didn't go up in price.

[champion6]

Financial institution deregulation is heading us back toward a real estate bubble, and possibly another Great Recession. Hang on. We just don't seem to learn that thing about history repeating when we make the same mistakes.You might be correct. However, I feel that Supply-and-Demand is a more important factor at this time.

This is a national problem. The bubble is growing because the supply of pre-owned houses cannot keep up with the demand. The prices of pre-owned houses moves upward and the prices of new houses follow the trend.

[ColdNoMore]

Financial institution deregulation is heading us back toward a real estate bubble, and possibly another Great Recession. Hang on. We just don't seem to learn that thing about history repeating when we make the same mistakes.

Yep.


And the fact that no one in the U.S. went to jail over devastating the world economy, simply emboldens those responsible...to do it again. :mad:


Highly recommended watching for those who don't know...the WHOLE story/reason(s).

The Big Short (poke here) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1596363/)

[twoplanekid]

If it includes the furniture it really didn't go up in price.

The first price of $189,*** did include furniture per the TV sales person on our visit to it although the first group of pictures of this home on the web site didn't show the furniture. Did TV make a mistake on the starting price of the home? I can't say.

[B-flat]

Don't forget to look at preowned homes. Many already have thousands in upgrades.

Ditto to the above comment.

Just about a month ago we were interested in purchasing a court yard villa.(CYV). We were interested in 4 different CYVs, however, we could not get to Florida quick enough and 3 were sold in a matter of days. We were lucky we did get the 4th choice since the party who put the deposit were not able to complete the sale. AT the time there were quite a few homes and patio villas for sale, many of them are still for sale. Not sure what happened in early to mid May but property seemed to be “flying off the shelves.” Now at least from what I see things have slowed down, but I’m far from an expert and aren’t privy to any sales numbers. Seems to me homes and patio villas aren’t selling as quickly as CYVs. We would have liked a free standing in home in Chatam but as snowbirds, lawn maintenance was a consideration. Our CYV has no lawn that’s fine with me because my home in the north has plenty of lawn.

[GoodLife]

Ditto to the above comment.

Just about a month ago we were interested in purchasing a court yard villa.(CYV). We were interested in 4 different CYVs, however, we could not get to Florida quick enough and 3 were sold in a matter of days. We were lucky we did get the 4th choice since the party who put the deposit were not able to complete the sale. AT the time there were quite a few homes and patio villas for sale, many of them are still for sale. Not sure what happened in early to mid May but property seemed to be “flying off the shelves.” Now at least from what I see things have slowed down, but I’m far from an expert and aren’t privy to any sales numbers. Seems to me homes and patio villas aren’t selling as quickly as CYVs. We would have liked a free standing in home in Chatam but as snowbirds, lawn maintenance was a consideration. Our CYV has no lawn that’s fine with me because my home in the north has plenty of lawn.

Lyle Gant keeps excellent stats on all homes sold thru the MLS. In 2017 Designers sold = 596, Cottages = 277 Courtyard Villas = 174 Patio Villa = 134

2017 Sales by Realtors in The Villages (http://lylegant.com/The-Villages-Florida-Homes/Sales-Statistics-by-Type-of-Home/2017-Sales)

Similar trend so far in 2018

New Page 234 (http://lylegant.com/The-Villages-Florida-Homes/Sales-Statistics-by-Type-of-Home/2018-SALES)

[B-flat]

Lyle Gant keeps excellent stats on all homes sold thru the MLS. In 2017 Designers sold = 596, Cottages = 277 Courtyard Villas = 174 Patio Villa = 134

2017 Sales by Realtors in The Villages (http://lylegant.com/The-Villages-Florida-Homes/Sales-Statistics-by-Type-of-Home/2017-Sales)

Similar trend so far in 2018

New Page 234 (http://lylegant.com/The-Villages-Florida-Homes/Sales-Statistics-by-Type-of-Home/2018-SALES)

Thank you GoodLife, very interesting stats.

[twoplanekid]

I checked a March 22 paper listing of three new homes in Fenney/DeSoto to the current web site price to note a $4,000 increase in all three. These are in addition to the one I already discussed.

6f018 Sandpiper 208,... now 212,...
10F036 Alder 243,... now 247,...
9F017 Crawford 273,... now 277,...

There was a price increase on many new homes at the beginning of June.

[pjwjpb]

NY prices,,,,Nope

[vintageogauge]

Quite a few golf course lots in McClure have already been sold without a hint in advertising. Really hard to believe how many homes have been sold in DeSoto.

[GoodLife]

Quite a few golf course lots in McClure have already been sold without a hint in advertising. Really hard to believe how many homes have been sold in DeSoto.


New home sales in TV have always been quite robust, but recent years are quite a bit less than in the years of 2004 thru 2006 when they averaged over 4000 new homes sold per year. Average sales for 2015 to 2017 was slightly more than 2000 per year.


75411

[vintageogauge]

New home sales in TV have always been quite robust, but recent years are quite a bit less than in the years of 2004 thru 2006 when they averaged over 4000 new homes sold per year. Average sales for 2015 to 2017 was slightly more than 2000 per year.


75411

Those were the years of Lake Sumter villages and they sold very well as did homes in other parts of the country. In 2017 there was not near the inventory of new homes available here as they were about built out in The Pines and Oceola and just beginning Fenney however this year they are building at a very fast pace and I believe sold units will be well over the 2000 mark, last year was actually 2200 new units and an almost identical number of resales by The Villages sales agents around 6000 total units sold by TV and multiple listing agents in one year is an amazing number. That is a lot of homes per day 7 days a week.

[GoodLife]

Those were the years of Lake Sumter villages and they sold very well as did homes in other parts of the country. In 2017 there was not near the inventory of new homes available here as they were about built out in The Pines and Oceola and just beginning Fenney however this year they are building at a very fast pace and I believe sold units will be well over the 2000 mark, last year was actually 2200 new units and an almost identical number of resales by The Villages sales agents around 6000 total units sold by TV and multiple listing agents in one year is an amazing number. That is a lot of homes per day 7 days a week.


Your original post was about how many new home sales there are now, I showed you that the numbers they are posting now are nowhere near what they did in years past. So nothing remarkable. Now you are adding TV resales and MLS resales to the mix, comparing apples to oranges. No doubt TV sells lots of homes, but current numbers are about 50% of what they did previously.

[vintageogauge]

Your original post was about how many new home sales there are now, I showed you that the numbers they are posting now are nowhere near what they did in years past. So nothing remarkable. Now you are adding TV resales and MLS resales to the mix, comparing apples to oranges. No doubt TV sells lots of homes, but current numbers are about 50% of what they did previously.

I agreed with your numbers, it's still shocking how many homes are sold per day both new and re-sales. I also feel that you will see the numbers grow over the next few years as they continue to build at an extremely fast pace south of 44. I'm not arguing with figures, I was down here looking at homes during the peak years when you were given only an hour to make up your mind or it would be sold to someone else, those were the bubble years and hopefully we will never have situations like that again. The future sales are going to be based on availability and the number of people retiring on a daily basis over the next decade.

[Seacoast1]

A realtor is an agent selling property so yes, they are realtors.


Not all real estate agents are Realtors, but all Realtors are real estate agents. The difference is
A Realtor is an agent who belongs to the National Association of Realtors and takes an ethics course.
The Village agents are not Realtors.


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[Wiotte]

I have dealt with realtors who practice zero integrity and those who simply hold a real estate license who practice with the utmost of integrity. Attending a few seminars on ethics will not change an unethical person. The term realtor is a distinction without a difference. Bottom line, trust no one and check everything.

[Love2Swim]

If the increase is true, it's 2% after a year of selling, that is to be expected. According to todays paper TV agents sold 2,200 new homes and 2,200 re-sales in 2017. That ratio will most likely stay the same for 2018.

If the economic news turns out to be true i.e. trade wars, the prices of new homes could go up even more due to higher cost of materials, which could make re-sales more attractive.

[vintageogauge]

If the economic news turns out to be true i.e. trade wars, the prices of new homes could go up even more due to higher cost of materials, which could make re-sales more attractive.

If the cost of a new home goes up i would assume re-sale asking prices would go up also so I doubt that cost will affect the ratio. I would go further into discussing any "possible" trade war but that is not the topic here.

[Wiotte]

The only material I see increasing in our new house construction would be Canadian lumber. Drywall, concrete block, asphalt shingles, windows, doors, wiring etc. are domestically produced.


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[graciegirl]

Not all real estate agents are Realtors, but all Realtors are real estate agents. The difference is
A Realtor is an agent who belongs to the National Association of Realtors and takes an ethics course.
The Village agents are not Realtors.


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All Gaul is divided into three parts.

Who made you. God made you.

Be is am are was were been being look taste feel smell hear seem appear continue remain stay.

Things we were taught by rote.

Other things we perceive and reason out for ourselves, like why is their a push back from realtors against Villages Sales Agents? Because MLS realtors aren't allowed to sell The Villages NEW homes.

[champion6]

If the economic news turns out to be true i.e. trade wars, the prices of new homes could go up even more due to higher cost of materials, which could make re-sales more attractive.The only material I see increasing in our new house construction would be Canadian lumber. Drywall, concrete block, asphalt shingles, windows, doors, wiring etc. are domestically produced.According to a recent CNBC report, lumber is currently selling a record highs. During the last 12 months, it has added $7,000-9,000 to the cost of building a house.

Regarding the cost of resales, they will also rise. The attractiveness of the selling prices will depend on the awareness of the sellers.

[vintageogauge]

The only material I see increasing in our new house construction would be Canadian lumber. Drywall, concrete block, asphalt shingles, windows, doors, wiring etc. are domestically produced.


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steel studs, electrical components, anything made out of sheet metal or aluminum such as water heaters, builder supplied appliances, kitchen sinks, aluminum window framing, garage doors, soffits, gutters, light posts, wiring, cabinet hardware and hinges, and I'm sure there is more that I can't think of right now. This however will be short lived.

[ColdNoMore]

I believe in the science of evolution...not Julius Caesar or Catechism. :oops:

Which is analogous to the 'evolution' of rising building supplies...should a trade war break out.

People will be paying more for new homes, which will by association...drag up the prices on resales also.

I personally couldn't care less however, as being a 'frog' myself...it will be my children that have to deal with the sales price of my house.


Around 2050...with any luck. :D

[gap2415]

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[vintageogauge]

We purchased a second home on Pine Island near Fort Myers and Sanibel. 2300sf, half acre, deluxe pool w waterfall, gorgeous pools. Fantastic restaurants with fresh foods, boating....wow......so many clubs to join too....don’t know where to stay longer.

And?

[villagerjack]

Paralysis by analysis. If you see a home you like and can afford, buy it. The rest will take care of itself.

[KSSunshine]

So we have been watching 3 particular homes in Fenny that we just might be interested in for the past 11 months or so since they were newy built.

We noticed the other day that all 3 homes had a price increase of $1000, maybe more because I tend to not notice the last 3 numbers and rather pay attention to the first 3. $429,??? is now $430,???....

Hubby believes and I concur, that because we all know "build out is a myth" that the new sales tactic is for sales agents to say, buy the home today as the price of this home is going up tommorrow?


.hummmm
We, too, have been watching a couple of homes in Fenny, including the price. Today, just noticed that they raised the price $30K on my fav :22yikes:, marked it out in RED, and now back to the original price they've had posted since going on the market. So, anyone who hasn't been following the price closely over time will think they are getting a bargain! Buyer beware!

[graciegirl]

We, too, have been watching a couple of homes in Fenny, including the price. Today, just noticed that they raised the price $30K on my fav :22yikes:, marked it out in RED, and now back to the original price they've had posted since going on the market. So, anyone who hasn't been following the price closely over time will think they are getting a bargain! Buyer beware!

In Fenney, you can't watch homes very long, because they don't last very long. I watch the market too, just because I find it interesting.

There are NO contingencies accepted on new homes here. No trade in's, and they don't accept anything but conventional mortgages on new homes. MLS realtors cannot sell them and that causes a lot of mis-information in my opinion.

I am not a realtor, never have been a realtor but we have seen many of our homes in our lifetime built for us. This place does it differently and we are completely satisfied with the two new homes we have bought and lived in here.

[coop]

Increases in prices will effect demand.

[KSSunshine]

In Fenney, you can't watch homes very long, because they don't last very long. I watch the market too, just because I find it interesting.

There are NO contingencies accepted on new homes here. No trade in's, and they don't accept anything but conventional mortgages on new homes. MLS realtors cannot sell them and that causes a lot of mis-information in my opinion.

I am not a realtor, never have been a realtor but we have seen many of our homes in our lifetime built for us. This place does it differently and we are completely satisfied with the two new homes we have bought and lived in here.

Sorry Graciegirl, but I can't figure out how your statements apply to my observation that TV is attempting to represent that a home has been discounted by now including a higher price that they are saying was reduced to the current price that is has been listing at for awhile. VNH#2F011. The new information is in red, crossed out, but that was added within the last week. The price it is showing is the price that I have seen on the TV website for 4-6 weeks. You can actually save favorites making it easy to see which ones have sold and which ones are still available.

We've purchased two brand new homes (no contingencies, no $ reductions, conventional mortage only) and one custom built home, and I don't see those as being different in TV. The only unique aspect to TV is that only TV realtors are allowed to sell new TV properties. No big deal.

[graciegirl]

I found it;

Homefinder - The Villages(R) Homes and Villas for Sale (https://www.thevillages.com/homefinder/#/S2F.11?new&lng=-81.98727801879008&lat=28.88401503306123&lvl=2)

I can see why you like it. It's beautiful. I particularly like the fireplace on the lanai, the pool area and the view. You have great taste.

[EPutnam1863]

If the economic news turns out to be true i.e. trade wars, the prices of new homes could go up even more due to higher cost of materials, which could make re-sales more attractive.

Not just the cost of materials but also the cost of hiring workers. Why should they want to earn less if they can earn more elsewhere?

[EPutnam1863]

I found it;

Homefinder - The Villages(R) Homes and Villas for Sale (https://www.thevillages.com/homefinder/#/S2F.11?new&lng=-81.98727801879008&lat=28.88401503306123&lvl=2)

I can see why you like it. It's beautiful. I particularly like the fireplace on the lanai, the pool area and the view. You have great taste.

Where are the trees though?

[Bogie Shooter]

Where are the trees though?

Are their trees on your lot?

[KSSunshine]

I found it;

Homefinder - The Villages(R) Homes and Villas for Sale (https://www.thevillages.com/homefinder/#/S2F.11?new&lng=-81.98727801879008&lat=28.88401503306123&lvl=2)

I can see why you like it. It's beautiful. I particularly like the fireplace on the lanai, the pool area and the view. You have great taste.

Thank you! We think everything about it is great, too! Our only issue is that we haven't sold our current home. Meeting with a different realtor to continue our listing. Really thought we'd call TV home by now. Oh well...I'm hoping that something else equally as fantastic will be ready for purchase when we are!

[Wiotte]

Thank you! We think everything about it is great, too! Our only issue is that we haven't sold our current home. Meeting with a different realtor to continue our listing. Really thought we'd call TV home by now. Oh well...I'm hoping that something else equally as fantastic will be ready for purchase when we are!



That house, north of 44 south of 466A would be $700+
Location, Location, Location


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[KSSunshine]

That house, north of 44 south of 466A would be $700+
Location, Location, Location


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We hope to be in TV long enough for Fenny to be the center of the development! :icon_wink:

[Bogie Shooter]

That house, north of 44 south of 466A would be $700+
Location, Location, Location


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Very doubtful, maybe with a water or golf view. Still a stretch.

[Wiotte]

Very doubtful, maybe with a water or golf view. Still a stretch.

The house has a pool, water view & lanai fireplace. That house located north of 44 is $700+ easy, any day, all year.

[vintageogauge]

Sorry Graciegirl, but I can't figure out how your statements apply to my observation that TV is attempting to represent that a home has been discounted by now including a higher price that they are saying was reduced to the current price that is has been listing at for awhile. VNH#2F011. The new information is in red, crossed out, but that was added within the last week. The price it is showing is the price that I have seen on the TV website for 4-6 weeks. You can actually save favorites making it easy to see which ones have sold and which ones are still available.

We've purchased two brand new homes (no contingencies, no $ reductions, conventional mortage only) and one custom built home, and I don't see those as being different in TV. The only unique aspect to TV is that only TV realtors are allowed to sell new TV properties. No big deal.

All of the prices went up in early June including that one however they have had trouble selling it possibly because it is very near to the road, Fenney Way behind it. All of the homes that are reduced are done so for a reason, that reason being that there is something holding back the sale of that particular home. There is one on SeaGrape that was raised to $572 and now lowered by about $30,000. It has vinyl floors, who would expect to have vinyl floors in a $572,000 home. It also has an open area patio with fire pit, no bird cage, you can't use it in the evenings due to mosquitos. Also the catch and release fishing pond walkway is right behind the Lanai as well as the noise from the Putt and Play, not very private. There is always a reason for price reductions.

[contwig80]

Where do I go to look for homes? I'd like to see 'pictures' of room and descriptions. We have a puppy, and would love a fence, but that's only villas...correct? New to "Talk of the Villages' and hoping to move there. Will come for 2 weeks in Dec with hubby to look over some homes. :doggie:

[VApeople]

We have a puppy, and would love a fence, but that's only villas...correct?

The Veranda style homes in Fenny have fences around them. They are very much like Designer homes.

You can find them on thevillages(dot)com

[graciegirl]

Where do I go to look for homes? I'd like to see 'pictures' of room and descriptions. We have a puppy, and would love a fence, but that's only villas...correct? New to "Talk of the Villages' and hoping to move there. Will come for 2 weeks in Dec with hubby to look over some homes. :doggie:

A good place to look is The Villages site; thevillages.com

Here is one of the Veranda homes that are fenced;Homefinder - The Villages(R) Homes and Villas for Sale (https://www.thevillages.com/homefinder/#/S16V.18/Gallery/12?new&preowned&homesites&lng=-82.0112647433498&lat=28.7913299815398&lvl=11)