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Chellybean
05-14-2018, 06:24 AM
A woman was smoking at the gas pump at Healdly way as she was pumping gas.
She started pumping gas and then walked less then 10 feet away while her husband was cleaning the car windows.
She put down her cigarette and then went to check the pump and then back to smoking her cigarette.
My husband said "can you please put your cigarette out you are putting all of us at dangerous risk" and her husband said "mind your own business".
One of the people pumping gas stopped and said you jerk to the lady and left.
My husband then begun to have words with the man and the man said she is a safe distance away.
My husband said are you kidding me the Federal and state law prohibits SMOKING; NO SMOKING period at gas station property.
Before it became a fist fight we left and went into the store were we met the store manager and stated why the gas station attendant was not telling these folks to stop smoking or leave.
It was latter found out the attendant had no idea of the confrontation outside with these idiots due to the attendant was cleaning in the store.
We later met the attendant before we left when the manager was speaking with her and she said she had no idea that there was a problem outside. That was all a surprise to us with all the yelling.
The manager of the store said she would look at the cameras to see if it was a regular customer and have them trespassed off the property and the manger agreed that it was a bone head thing to do.
People that smoke need to use your head, and is smoking that important for 5 minutes while you fill your tank.
JEZZZZZ what an IDIOT!!!!:mad::mad::mad::rant-rave::rant-rave::rant-rave::shocked::shocked::shocked::shocked::

BobnBev
05-14-2018, 06:43 AM
I would have hit the emergency cut off switch, and called 911 to have the FD & Sheriff/PD to respond to a verbal (turning physical) confrontation.

retiredguy123
05-14-2018, 07:25 AM
Just to be accurate, engaging in a verbal confrontation with the husband was more dangerous than the woman smoking. While smoking at the gas pump is not a good idea, it really does not create as high a risk as most people think. The chances of the gas igniting from a cigarette at the pump are small.

Rapscallion St Croix
05-14-2018, 07:37 AM
That lady was in real danger. Hasn't she heard about lung cancer, emphysema, heart disease, and stinky clothing.

427dave
05-14-2018, 07:37 AM
How about people talking on their cell phones while pumping gas. There are also warning about that by the pumps. Static electricity can also make gas fumes go boom.

retiredguy123
05-14-2018, 07:54 AM
How about people talking on their cell phones while pumping gas. There are also warning about that by the pumps. Static electricity can also make gas fumes go boom.
According to the Discovery Channel Mythbusters, talking on a cell phone while pumping gas will not cause a fire at the pump. But, static electricity from your body or something else can cause a fire.

Marathon Man
05-14-2018, 08:46 AM
Just to be accurate, engaging in a verbal confrontation with the husband was more dangerous than the woman smoking. While smoking at the gas pump is not a good idea, it really does not create as high a risk as most people think. The chances of the gas igniting from a cigarette at the pump are small.

Right. Reporting the situation to the manager may have been a better choice over a direct confrontation that results in escalation. Initially asking the woman not to smoke is good, but once the husband responded that way ...

manaboutown
05-14-2018, 08:50 AM
Drug addicts care only about their immediate gratification no matter the danger to themselves or others. I used to see this sort of thing quite often but I rarely see it now.

golfing eagles
05-14-2018, 08:59 AM
:boom::boom::boom::boom::boom:

ColdNoMore
05-14-2018, 08:59 AM
According to the Discovery Channel Mythbusters, talking on a cell phone while pumping gas will not cause a fire at the pump. But, static electricity from your body or something else can cause a fire.

Yep

FACT CHECK: Cell Phone Use at Gas Pump (https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/fuelish-pleasures/)

Later investigations, however, have always shown in such cases that the press reports were wrong, that something else (usually a discharge of static electricity)touched off the fires , and the presence of cell phones was coincidental rather than causal.

More concerning to me than cell phone use (or even smoking 10 feet away), are those people who fill a gas can while it's still in their trunk...or contractors filling them while on a trailer or in the bed of their trucks.

THAT is when the potential for static electricity starting a fire/explosion...is at its greatest. :ohdear:

Nucky
05-14-2018, 09:25 AM
As a former smoker, I did some smoking in places I regret. I apologized to the people that I could once I stopped. I never meant to hurt them I just wanted to puff at any cost even someone else's health. What a dope. I'm ashamed of my former behavior and am inclined to forgive and keep quiet about those that do as I did. I take it as Karma and a reminder that I should stay as a non-smoker.

That being said if I showed up and saw someone smoking near the pump I would leave until they were gone. If they started smoking while I was already filling up it would be a different story. I'm almost certain the situation would be snuffed quickly one way or the other. The feeling of needing a smoke is rough but come on give me a break. This is beyond dopey! It is also Illegal.

DimondAngels
05-14-2018, 12:12 PM
Even if the chance is 1000 to 1 it is not acceptable!

bbbbbb
05-14-2018, 01:25 PM
[QUOTE=ColdNoMore;1543509]Yep

Hi. Can we look at the facts ma'am?
Remember the TV show just looking at the >>>>>?

Consider this, and ponder it a bit.
Maybe it is Florida, maybe the Villages? It seems when we see a problem or safety item, there is NO way to get corrective action. There is frequently, the rationalizing that takes place.
Speeders, Pot smokers, DUI and Happy Hour over indulgences, dangerous trees as incredible hazards, it goes on and on and yes, the smokers at gas stations.
So keep your eyes open and be cautious seems to be the only solution. Sad but true.
:pepper2: :pepper2:

Mrs. Robinson
05-14-2018, 01:37 PM
Just to be accurate, engaging in a verbal confrontation with the husband was more dangerous than the woman smoking. While smoking at the gas pump is not a good idea, it really does not create as high a risk as most people think. The chances of the gas igniting from a cigarette at the pump are small.

I was just thinking about the times when I got gasoline on my hand(s) because the nozzle dripped or simply because the pump handle was a little wet and dirty from previous users.

The chances of a calamity happening are far greater than one would think or could imagine. "Look ma. No hands!"

spuds51
05-14-2018, 02:25 PM
Just to be accurate, engaging in a verbal confrontation with the husband was more dangerous than the woman smoking. While smoking at the gas pump is not a good idea, it really does not create as high a risk as most people think. The chances of the gas igniting from a cigarette at the pump are small.

This is true. I know that we live in a different world now but a service station owner/attendant that I knew almost never filled someone's tank up without a cigarette hanging out of his mouth. He did it for 20-30 years without incident but I can certainly see it's not a good idea...or talk on cell phones

sallybowron
05-14-2018, 05:22 PM
Maybe just pump gas and go???

ColdNoMore
05-14-2018, 05:48 PM
Maybe just pump gas and go???

And let an opportunity to get in a confrontation, with a chance that someone may be carrying concealed and pull a gun on you, slip by...on another boring day in The Villages?


Where's the fun in that?


:D

patfla06
05-14-2018, 06:18 PM
Notice the husband tells you to mind your own business.

But when your moron wife is smoking at the gas pump it
IS YOUR BUSINESS.

Nucky
05-14-2018, 06:54 PM
Where the hell is Thurston Howell III? This is right in his wheelhouse. He could have a blast (so to speak) with this one.

justjim
05-14-2018, 07:30 PM
When there were more smokers (20 or more years ago) I use to see this behavior all the time. Didn’t think much about the danger possibility then. Frankly, you are more likely to see smokers out of the “bubble” than in which may have something to do with our age. We should be wise enough to report the smoking to the station manager instead of confronting a stranger who is likely to defend his wife even though he might disapprove of her behavior himself. Pump on...

Harry Gilbert
05-15-2018, 05:45 AM
Amazingly its not illegal to smoke at a gas station. It may be a company policy or hopefully against local fire codes but its not against florida or federal law

florida gas station law:
Statutes & Constitution
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Online Sunshine (http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=0500-0599/0526/Sections/0526.141.html)

Chellybean
05-15-2018, 06:27 AM
[QUOTE=Harry Gilbert;1543790]Amazingly its not illegal to smoke at a gas station. It may be a company policy or hopefully against local fire codes but its not against florida or federal law

florida gas station law:
[url=http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=0500-0599/0526/Sections/0526.141.html]Statutes & Constitution
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Online Sunshine

Try getting your facts right pal and let me know how it works out for you if you cause a explosion at a gas station.

Florida has adopted the National Fire Protection Association‘s standards, including National Fire Protection Association Rule 30A, Code for Motor Fuel Dispensing Facilities and Repair Garages, Chapter 9.2.5.1, which states, in part: “Smoking materials, including matches and lighters, shall not be used within 6 m (20 ft) of areas used for fueling, servicing fuel systems of internal combustion engines, or receiving or dispensing of Class I or Class II liquids . . . .”

I am sure the DA and Fire Marshall would have a ball with you in front of a jury trial.
Fire Marshals have as much power as the Chief of Police and also has arrest power if you are breaking the Fire codes and Laws.
You must be a smoker or just ignorant!!!

Nucky
05-15-2018, 06:53 AM
Bring in attendants to pump your gas at all Villages stations just like they have in New Jersey. What a pleasure it would be. Charge an extra nickel a gallon.

Harry Gilbert
05-15-2018, 07:03 AM
chellybean,
Have a cup of coffee and relax. I did say it was not a state law but could be under fire code. Turns out I was correct. Thanks for clearing that up


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Chellybean
05-15-2018, 08:51 AM
Makes me wonder who had an attitude that day at the pump.

Yes you are probably right my husband has no tolerance for stupid people that puts others in risk of danger!!!!!
I think it was justified.
Just a FYI my husband said;
MS. can you put your cigarette out you are putting us all in a dangerous situation. And her husband replied mind my own business!
Well i think it is my business if someone is putting me and my family in harms way. Just my opinion.

Topspinmo
05-15-2018, 09:02 AM
A woman was smoking at the gas pump at Healdly way as she was pumping gas.
She started pumping gas and then walked less then 10 feet away while her husband was cleaning the car windows.
She put down her cigarette and then went to check the pump and then back to smoking her cigarette.
My husband said "can you please put your cigarette out you are putting all of us at dangerous risk" and her husband said "mind your own business".
One of the people pumping gas stopped and said you jerk to the lady and left.
My husband then begun to have words with the man and the man said she is a safe distance away.
My husband said are you kidding me the Federal and state law prohibits SMOKING; NO SMOKING period at gas station property.
Before it became a fist fight we left and went into the store were we met the store manager and stated why the gas station attendant was not telling these folks to stop smoking or leave.
It was latter found out the attendant had no idea of the confrontation outside with these idiots due to the attendant was cleaning in the store.
We later met the attendant before we left when the manager was speaking with her and she said she had no idea that there was a problem outside. That was all a surprise to us with all the yelling.
The manager of the store said she would look at the cameras to see if it was a regular customer and have them trespassed off the property and the manger agreed that it was a bone head thing to do.
People that smoke need to use your head, and is smoking that important for 5 minutes while you fill your tank.
JEZZZZZ what an IDIOT!!!!:mad:

IMO Not worth getting shot over, just move on down the street to another station. But, probably idiots down there too????:oops:

Henryk
05-15-2018, 09:15 AM
I would have hit the emergency cut off switch, and called 911 to have the FD & Sheriff/PD to respond to a verbal (turning physical) confrontation.

I like this option a lot!

manaboutown
05-15-2018, 11:42 AM
I would have hit the emergency cut off switch, and called 911 to have the FD & Sheriff/PD to respond to a verbal (turning physical) confrontation.

The real danger appears to lie in lighting a cigarette with a match or lighter amidst relatively contained gasoline vapor, not so much in smoking an already lit cigarette in open air around a gasoline pump. The spark from a lighter might create the most risk. Nonetheless in such a situation I might become sufficiently uncomfortable to hit the cutoff switch and call 911.

https://www.scienceabc.com/eyeopeners/can-cigarette-ignite-light-puddle-gasoline-fire.html

CFrance
05-15-2018, 12:44 PM
When there were more smokers (20 or more years ago) I use to see this behavior all the time. Didn’t think much about the danger possibility then. Frankly, you are more likely to see smokers out of the “bubble” than in which may have something to do with our age. We should be wise enough to report the smoking to the station manager instead of confronting a stranger who is likely to defend his wife even though he might disapprove of her behavior himself. Pump on...
This.

bagboy
05-15-2018, 02:14 PM
It amazes me when I see a Blue Rhino lp gas stand in front of a convenience store, and next to it an ash tray and an employee or two smoking cigarettes. I think that might be rather dangerous...

John_W
05-15-2018, 04:04 PM
I buy my gas at the new Walmart ever since it opened because Walmart gives 3% back on my Walmart card on gas. I've run into this before in Georgia, and went inside and told the attendant. If faced with this situation here I would of gone inside and advised the attendant and asked if he was going to call 911 or at least community watch since I live here? If he said, no, I'm calling the store manager, I would of waited for that, or if he said no, I'm not calling anyone, I would of called 911 or community watch depending on the attitude of the people involved. Community Watch are not the police, I don't want to endanger them if these people look like derelicts. Which from the response given the OP, I would of probably called 911 if the attendant had refused.

Chellybean
05-15-2018, 08:07 PM
The real danger appears to lie in lighting a cigarette with a match or lighter amidst relatively contained gasoline vapor, not so much in smoking an already lit cigarette in open air around a gasoline pump. The spark from a lighter might create the most risk. Nonetheless in such a situation I might become sufficiently uncomfortable to hit the cutoff switch and call 911.

https://www.scienceabc.com/eyeopeners/can-cigarette-ignite-light-puddle-gasoline-fire.html

YES I READ THE SAME THING, but i wouldn't want to chance it.