Another 40+ Village resident in the news for the wrong reasosn.

[Bogie Shooter]

A 47 year old Village resident over doses in the restroom at Walmart in Summerfield.
I believe this was the third similar incident in the past 10 days.
(If they can't make it on their own why do you think they will make it moving in with mom & pop)

[Madelaine Amee]

A 47 year old Village resident over doses in the restroom at Walmart in Summerfield.
I believe this was the third similar incident in the past 10 days.
(If they can't make it on their own why do you think they will make it moving in with mom & pop)

I have to say "what the h..l" is he doing here? The greater majority of us have worked our buns off to retire in this beautiful place and now we have these scumbags moving in! I have no sympathy whatsoever for either him or his parents.

[Chatbrat]

Living with his brain dead parents

[eweissenbach]

I have to say "what the h..l" is he doing here? The greater majority of us have worked our buns off to retire in this beautiful place and now we have these scumbags moving in! I have no sympathy whatsoever for either him or his parents.

Living with his brain dead parents

Wow, judgemental much? Maybe he is a low life and maybe the parents are supporting his bad habits. Or. Maybe he was in an accident, was over medicated by his healthcare providers, became hooked, was kicked out by his wife and his parents took him in so he could get clean because he has always been a good person and they love him unconditionally. We really don't know the circumstances and it could be any number of scenarios. I hope he gets clean and his parents get to see their love prevail, but if he doesn't deserve any sympathy, I hope he is locked up. In any case I, and we have no idea how we might react given similar circumstances.

[Fredster]

I personally believe there are a lot of enablers in TV.
Too bad, because that doesn’t usually bring about positive results!

[redwitch]

The parents probably aren’t blind to what is going on, just hopeful their love can change things. As EW said, we don’t know the facts behind the addiction. To judge without knowing all the facts is just plain wrong.

If we judged like that, we could assume that one poster here is an arrogant, insecure braggart. We could assume another is a kind, well-meaning, naive woman. And so on and so forth.

[manaboutown]

This type of sad situation is omnipresent. I see it literally everywhere among all classes. Seniors who take their drug addicted adult children in do them no favors. Enabling only prolongs the time it takes for addicts to bottom out. Some make it; some don't, but enabling only extends the agony for everyone involved, whatever the eventual outcome.

[The Chipster]

Wow, there was a lot of hate in those first three posts. Apparently you all have been reading the pablum Daily Sun for all of your news. The currently opioid epidemic (60,000 Americans died from it in 2017) affects more upper class young people than the “scum” you reference. I have a horrific problem with a close relative, so I am a bit sensitive to those who are ignorant about this. Wake up, get a life, and read the real news, deeply.

[Bogie Shooter]

Wow, there was a lot of hate in those first three posts. Apparently you all have been reading the pablum Daily Sun for all of your news. The currently opioid epidemic (60,000 Americans died from it in 2017) affects more upper class young people than the “scum” you reference. I have a horrific problem with a close relative, so I am a bit sensitive to those who are ignorant about this. Wake up, get a life, and read the real news, deeply.

Where is the hate in my post?

[Topspinmo]

I don't see difference in that and all the Drunks that are medicating Daily, Putting all of use at risk! The bottom line is Drugs and alcohol are consuming Too many Weak minded that just can't make it through day without Medicating. Now, add that wilth all the legal Medicated from the pill pushers and what do we get. at least 70% coverage IMO. Basically there are little runs here that can be enforced. So IMO its only going to get worse!

[ColdNoMore]

I didn't see the article.

Did it say he was living with his parents...or could it be that he owns a home here?

[manaboutown]

I didn't see the article.

Did it say he was living with his parents...or could it be that he owns a home here?

He does not own diddly-squat. He is mooching off his parents.

[ColdNoMore]

He does not own diddly-squat. He is mooching off his parents.

Where did you read about him?

Is it in today's paper or the other site?

[manaboutown]

The other site. I think it has been deleted as I could not find it now.

[Allegiance]

Adult children who are losers that never worked are far different than the truly disabled.

Most times it's very obvious to tell them apart.

[Marathon Man]

Wow, judgemental much? ...

Wow, there was a lot of hate in those first three posts ...

Agree agree agree. Why people want to carry so much hatred in their hearts is just beyond me. Every time an under 55YO resident with a life problem is in the news, we see the same old comments. Some body starts a thread and others get on board.

And, let me add that perhaps a mental disorder is in play, not at all the fault of the parents or the child. Don't give sympathy if you don't want to, but I think there is enough heartache in that family that they don't need anyone to pile up on them.

[Taltarzac725]

Wow, judgemental much? Maybe he is a low life and maybe the parents are supporting his bad habits. Or. Maybe he was in an accident, was over medicated by his healthcare providers, became hooked, was kicked out by his wife and his parents took him in so he could get clean because he has always been a good person and they love him unconditionally. We really don't know the circumstances and it could be any number of scenarios. I hope he gets clean and his parents get to see their love prevail, but if he doesn't deserve any sympathy, I hope he is locked up. In any case I, and we have no idea how we might react given similar circumstances.

I like your compassion. We need more of it in these very tough times in the US.

[Nucky]

A certain percentage of Villagers have one or another addiction as there is demand for various 12 Step Programs throughout the entire operation. Some get a second chance at living life well and some don't. If they don't want to stop and put in the hard work to sober up nobody can shame or wish them to straighten up. It is harder on those on the family and friend support staff than the victim of the addiction for certain. I feel bad for the person who is lumped up but even worse for our community that doesn't need to be exposed to this garbage but is a new reality of life to some. Add it to the list, another heartbreaker.

Some people are just not capable of Compassion when others face trouble but cry like sissies when they face adversary.

[ColdNoMore]

Wow, judgemental much? Maybe he is a low life and maybe the parents are supporting his bad habits. Or. Maybe he was in an accident, was over medicated by his healthcare providers, became hooked, was kicked out by his wife and his parents took him in so he could get clean because he has always been a good person and they love him unconditionally. We really don't know the circumstances and it could be any number of scenarios. I hope he gets clean and his parents get to see their love prevail, but if he doesn't deserve any sympathy, I hope he is locked up. In any case I, and we have no idea how we might react given similar circumstances.

Agree agree agree. Why people want to carry so much hatred in their hearts is just beyond me. Every time an under 55YO resident with a life problem is in the news, we see the same old comments. Some body starts a thread and others get on board.

And, let me add that perhaps a mental disorder is in play, not at all the fault of the parents or the child. Don't give sympathy if you don't want to, but I think there is enough heartache in that family that they don't need anyone to pile up on them.


:agree:


:BigApplause:

[manaboutown]

I like your compassion. We need more of it in these very tough times in the US.

What? It is a wonderful time of recovery, renewal and strengthening in the USA!

The economy is growing, employment is up, the stock market strong. We are emerging from a dreadful long period of despondency.

[ColdNoMore]

What? It is a very great time of recovery and strengthening in the USA!

The economy is growing, employment is up, the stock market strong. We are emerging from a dreadful long period of despondency.

Sorry, but I disagree.

I think a 'reality check' is in order here.

Facts matter. :ho:

I'll let everyone make their own conclusions...based on the years. :shrug:

[Allegiance]

Agree agree agree. Why people want to carry so much hatred in their hearts is just beyond me. Every time an under 55YO resident with a life problem is in the news, we see the same old comments. Some body starts a thread and others get on board.

And, let me add that perhaps a mental disorder is in play, not at all the fault of the parents or the child. Don't give sympathy if you don't want to, but I think there is enough heartache in that family that they don't need anyone to pile up on them.List of mental disorders - Wikipedia (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mental_disorders)

Mental / Medical professionals would love to one million more official disorders.

EVERYBODY has a few.

Once a person dwells on his diagnosis they are doomed to failure which is what the system wants.

[Allegiance]

Facts ho

LolSorry, but I disagree.

I think a 'reality check' is in order here.

Facts matter. :ho:

I'll let everyone make their own conclusions...based on the years. :shrug:

[manaboutown]

List of mental disorders - Wikipedia (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mental_disorders)

Mental / Medical professionals would love to one million more official disorders.

EVERYBODY has a few.

Once a person dwells on his diagnosis they are doomed to failure which is what the system wants.

Psychologists can't seem to dream up mental disorders fast enough to excuse what borders on or is actual criminal behavior. A plethora have been invented in the last generation. Of course then they have more "diseases" to treat and more money to make.

[villagerjack]

Addiction is a sickness that is very difficult to overcome. Even with the best programs, success rates are low. The addicted person in most cases does not want to live that way. The parent enablers can be just as sick as their offspring. It is a family disease which has the best chance of some success when both family enablers and offspring seek the help, mostly free, that is out there from those that have been through these horrors, admitted the problem and succeeded in living productive lives. Miracles happen every day. Those that want to learn more can watch utube videos by Father Martin called CHALK TALK. His tackling of the problem in a sometimes humorous way will both entertain and educate you and after viewing will likely give those who tend to criticize an entirely different perspective. See CHALK TALK REVISED...UTUBE SHORTER VERSION.

[Allegiance]

They must be forgiven for their actions.


The crime gene: Should bad genetics mean a shorter sentence for criminals? (https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/crime-gene-should-bad-genetics-mean-shorter-sentence-criminals-1639954)
Psychologists can't seem to dream up mental disorders fast enough to excuse what borders on or is actual criminal behavior. A plethora have been invented in the last generation. Of course then they have more "diseases" to treat and more money to make.

[Wing-nut2]

Remember 20% of the population can be under 55. So that's about 23,600, right? Everyone knew that going in.

[champion6]

Remember 20% of the population can be under 55. So that's about 23,600, right? Everyone knew that going in.What percentage of the population of TV is ACTUALLY under 55? That is the relevant statistic.

[Taltarzac725]

What percentage of the population of TV is ACTUALLY under 55? That is the relevant statistic.

Would that be in the Census? U.S. Census Bureau QuickFacts: The Villages CDP, Florida (https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/thevillagescdpflorida/PST045216)

[John_W]

Originally Posted by manaboutown
What? It is a very great time of recovery and strengthening in the USA!

The economy is growing, employment is up, the stock market strong. We are emerging from a dreadful long period of despondency.

Sorry, but I disagree.

I think a 'reality check' is in order here.

Facts matter. :ho:

I'll let everyone make their own conclusions...based on the years. :shrug:

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/attachments/villages-florida-general-discussion-73/75105d1526736137-another-40-village-resident-news-wrong-reasosn-djia-2008-2018-jpg


I don't quite understand your comeback. You're trying to disprove 'manabouttown' assertion that we are in a great time of recovery but put up a chart of Dow Jones showing a steady rate of growth from 2009 to 2018. I would of thought the chart would of be in a decline to help prove your point.

[John_W]

Remember 20% of the population can be under 55. So that's about 23,600, right? Everyone knew that going in.

I believe it's 20% of homeowners can be under 55. Most of the people this discussion is about can't even afford a car much less a home. We could have 100,000 of people under 55 since they're not homeowners but freeloaders. That's the problem. They have nothing at stake. Just like watching the Super Bowl and neither team is yours, you'll just get drunk and want to have a good time. No need to grow up as long as mommy and daddy will keep bailing your out in more ways than one.

[Marathon Man]

What a terrible way to label every non-owner resident. Including those who are here taking care of their aging parent.

[Marathon Man]

Remember 20% of the population can be under 55. So that's about 23,600, right? Everyone knew that going in.

It's up to 20% of the homes can be owned by someone under 55. Percentage of population could actually go higher.

Not everyone knew that going in. And now there is a lot of resentment and anger because of it.

[queasy27]

I can't be the only one who's seen a lot of news articles about 55+ residents arrested for DUI or drunk in public. Addiction affects all age groups.

[ColdNoMore]

What a terrible way to label every non-owner resident. Including those who are here taking care of their aging parent.

I can't be the only one who's seen a lot of news articles about 55+ residents arrested for DUI or drunk in public. Addiction affects all age groups.

Yep. :ohdear:


I'm still waiting for one of those who claim this guy is a freeloader on his parents and not an actual homeowner...to at least provide some type of proof. :shrug:


I'll be waiting. :popcorn:

[John_W]

Yep. :ohdear:


I'm still waiting for one of those who claim this guy is a freeloader on his parents and not an actual homeowner...to at least provide some type of proof. :shrug:


I'll be waiting. :popcorn:

Proof, go read the unfiltered news with mug shots in the Villages online news website. You'll find for every 39 year that the police responds to, usually involves a story that includes some 70 year old that they have stolen from, mistreated, hit, took a car from, fought with, etc. Those are what's called freeloaders, those are the ones of which I speak.

[John_W]

What a terrible way to label every non-owner resident. Including those who are here taking care of their aging parent.

Who said every? You have good apples and bad apples, I thought this thread was about the bad apples.

[ColdNoMore]

Proof, go read the unfiltered news with mug shots in the Villages online news website. You'll find for every 39 year that the police responds to, usually involves a story that includes some 70 year old that they have stolen from, mistreated, hit, took a car from, fought with, etc. Those are what's called freeloaders, those are the ones of which I speak.
What does that have to do with the person...who is the subject of this thread? :confused:

I'm not saying that he's not living with his parents, I'm simply saying that I'm still waiting for some type of proof...that he doesn't own here. :popcorn:

[ColdNoMore]

Who said every? You have good apples and bad apples, I thought this thread was about the bad apples.


And here I thought the thread was about...

A 47 year old Village resident over doses in the restroom at Walmart in Summerfield.


My bad. :ho:

[Marathon Man]

Who said every? You have good apples and bad apples, I thought this thread was about the bad apples.

I haven't seen any evidence that the person referred to in the original post ever caused harm to a single other person. Is he a bad apple simply because he is under 55 and living in TV?

Every week we read of TV residents arrested for DUI. What kind of apples are they?

[manaboutown]

Perhaps some apples go bad in less time than it takes others to do so.

It would be revealing to see the statistics, on a per capita basis, comparing DUIs, drug overdoses, crimes committed and so on of the loser middle aged adult children living back home with their parents because they have been unable to make it on their own to those same incidents ascribable to the 55 and over who have made their own way in life and are home owning residents of The Villages.

[golfing eagles]

I haven't seen any evidence that the person referred to in the original post ever caused harm to a single other person. Is he a bad apple simply because he is under 55 and living in TV?

Every week we read of TV residents arrested for DUI. What kind of apples are they?

pickled.

[New Englander]

What kind of apples are they?

pickled.


:a20:

[Nucky]

John, for a person of your level headed, wise status to come up with a diagnosis as you have makes me happier than a Clam at High Tide. Excellent. I feel exactly the same way but could never put it as clearly as you. Thanks.