Shinnecock '18

[My Post]

Golf Digest: USGA has much to prove this year.
It'''s Crucial That The USGA Gets It Right At Shinnecock - Golf Digest (https://www.golfdigest.com/story/us-open-2018-dont-mess-this-up-its-crucial-that-the-usga-gets-it-right-at-shinnecock)

[rjn5656]

I hope so. Will be there tuesday and thursday next week.

[My Post]

I hope Dustin is not up 7 strokes on Sunday morning. But i'm getting the feeling he might be.

[ColdNoMore]

Whomever wins this week...will have certainly earned it.

Seeing the best in the world make triple from the middle of the fairway...does help assuage my own rage from doing the same.

[Jima64]

I quit watching the U S. open because they to want to make appear to be a British Open course, in my opinion.

[ColdNoMore]

I quit watching the U S. open because they to want to make appear to be a British Open course, in my opinion.

Really?

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

I'm glad to see the US Open getting back to a formula that worked so well for many years. Narrow fairways, long, thick rough and firm fast greens.

I missed the US Open in 2015 when they played at a shaved down Pinehurst #2 and in 2017 with a wide open Erin Hills. It just didn't seem like a US Open. It was good to see them back at Oakmont last year and Shinnecock, (which might be the best golf course in the world) this year.

Because of its location near the ocean and the ages of its greens, Shinnecock is a difficult place to get the conditions right every day. Some people complain about that, but I think that it brings the ability to adapt to conditions into consideration. The greens are very sloping and we saw what can happen if they get too fast back in 2004. This year they had another problem. By not cutting the greens down, poa annua can be quite bumpy. There's nothing more difficult than extremely fast bumpy greens. But the choices that they had were extremely fast where balls would run off the greens or fast and bumpy. The conditions in 2004, especially of the seventh green were absurd. They made the right choice.

I think that when the winning score of a US Open is around even par, the USGA has done their job correctly.

[alwann]

No, they did not get it right. Phil gets blamed for showing us how fast the greens were, with his John-Daly-mad-as-hell-putt. Then USGA comes back on Sunday and soaks the greens. Was this fair to all who missed he cut?

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

No, they did not get it right. Phil gets blamed for showing us how fast the greens were, with his John-Daly-mad-as-hell-putt. Then USGA comes back on Sunday and soaks the greens. Was this fair to all who missed he cut?

Yes, it was fair. All of the players who made the cut played under the same conditions as those who missed it. What the USGA did after the cut had no effect whatsoever on those who missed the cut. They could have moved to a different venue after two days and it wouldn't have affected those that didn't play well enough to make the cut.

The only difference in conditions was between those who played in the morning and afternoon. Weather conditions change and nothing can be done about that.

Brook's Koepka shot one over for the four days. If he could do it any of the top players could do it. Dustin Johnson shot 67-69 on Thursday and Friday. There were several other sub-par rounds during the first two days. Three amateurs made the cut and two of them tied for 48th place. The golf course was perfectly playable. Phil got the ball in the wrong position and used a rule in a way that he thought was advantageous to him. I didn't hear him complain about the golf course. In fact, many players spoke very favorably of it.

[ColdNoMore]

No, they did not get it right. Phil gets blamed for showing us how fast the greens were, with his John-Daly-mad-as-hell-putt. Then USGA comes back on Sunday and soaks the greens. Was this fair to all who missed the cut?

Yep.


When you have different tee times playing totally different courses, (and not just the usual different weather conditions experienced on Thu/Fri) as seen in the third round, it isn't 'fair'... by any stretch of the imagination.


Even the USGA admitted their mistake and culpability...for Saturday. :oops: