This "entitled" golfer just infuriated me, and should infuriate everyone else as well

[golfing eagles]

So here we are, 7:50, after some heavy rain. Egret had been closed all day for maintenance, the pins were laid alongside the green and the tee markers were not set out. Lo and behold, along comes a single playing down 6, skips 7, then plays 8. IF the course was even open, it most likely would be cart path only, but this guy just drives his cart down the middle of the fairway, sloshing along all the way. Didn't bother to fill his divot, drove right up to the green between the putting surface and a bunker, and then skidded down the hill. God only knows how much damage he did to the course, as well as where he got his entitled attitude. Geez.

[ColdNoMore]

Ya shoulda shot his tires...and flattened them.








:D

[patfla06]

Another entitled, selfish idiot.

[dotti105]

We live in Gilchrist with our lanai overlooking the 8th green of Kildeer. Pinellas Place runs between our lanai and the course.
We had just moved in and were sitting on our lanai and watching the golfers putt on the green.
All of the sudden this ball lands in our yard. The next thing we know, this guy comes running across Pinellas with his pitching wedge and before we could say anything he hits his ball from our yard back across Pinellas toward the green!!
We were shocked! I did manage to say “Next time please don’t hit from our yard”, too stunned to think of much else to say!
He yells over his shoulder, “just giving your grass a trim!”
We were both dumbstruck! He was not only rude but so arrogant and entitled. Obviously knows nothing of golf etiquette, or etiquette in general.

[Kfrgolf]

Why didn't you confront the idiot?

[JoMar]

Need to have a camera at the ready to take photo's of these idiots.

[ColdNoMore]

Why didn't you confront the idiot?

I can think of a number of reasons...why that would/could have been a dumb thing to do. :oops:

Especially since the person wasn't on his (or his neighbors) property.

GE could have called Community Watch though...and maybe they could have caught the jerk.

[Taltarzac725]

So here we are, 7:50, after some heavy rain. Egret had been closed all day for maintenance, the pins were laid alongside the green and the tee markers were not set out. Lo and behold, along comes a single playing down 6, skips 7, then plays 8. IF the course was even open, it most likely would be cart path only, but this guy just drives his cart down the middle of the fairway, sloshing along all the way. Didn't bother to fill his divot, drove right up to the green between the putting surface and a bunker, and then skidded down the hill. God only knows how much damage he did to the course, as well as where he got his entitled attitude. Geez.

I would have yelled "fore" a number of times at the top of my lungs and watched what happened. Fore! - Scottish Golf History (http://www.scottishgolfhistory.org/origin-of-golf-terms/fore/)

[DonH57]

So here we are, 7:50, after some heavy rain. Egret had been closed all day for maintenance, the pins were laid alongside the green and the tee markers were not set out. Lo and behold, along comes a single playing down 6, skips 7, then plays 8. IF the course was even open, it most likely would be cart path only, but this guy just drives his cart down the middle of the fairway, sloshing along all the way. Didn't bother to fill his divot, drove right up to the green between the putting surface and a bunker, and then skidded down the hill. God only knows how much damage he did to the course, as well as where he got his entitled attitude. Geez.

Definitely a complete entitled, ignorant, a hole! If the course is closed means you stay off it. What a shame.

[EPutnam1863]

Why didn't you confront the idiot?

If possible, I would have picked up the ball and thrown it as far as I could in the opposite direction.

[Chatbrat]

a new reason all golf carts should have some kind of ID, be it a tag or decal

[Nucky]

So here we are, 7:50, after some heavy rain. Egret had been closed all day for maintenance, the pins were laid alongside the green and the tee markers were not set out. Lo and behold, along comes a single playing down 6, skips 7, then plays 8. IF the course was even open, it most likely would be cart path only, but this guy just drives his cart down the middle of the fairway, sloshing along all the way. Didn't bother to fill his divot, drove right up to the green between the putting surface and a bunker, and then skidded down the hill. God only knows how much damage he did to the course, as well as where he got his entitled attitude. Geez.

Should have cut loose the old "Bag of Snakes" on him so he would have had a memory or maybe no memory of the day! Priceless.

[graciegirl]

a new reason all golf carts should have some kind of ID, be it a tag or decal


I think you should own a nice golf cart first to see how you like them and the golf carting experience here. It is super fun and interesting but unfortunately you cannot legislate kindness and respect and morality.

This incident is particularly appalling because golf has always earned the reputation of it's players being polite, and rule abiding.

I find all of society is becoming more "I will do whatever I want". I don't like it.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

We live in Gilchrist with our lanai overlooking the 8th green of Kildeer. Pinellas Place runs between our lanai and the course.
We had just moved in and were sitting on our lanai and watching the golfers putt on the green.
All of the sudden this ball lands in our yard. The next thing we know, this guy comes running across Pinellas with his pitching wedge and before we could say anything he hits his ball from our yard back across Pinellas toward the green!!
We were shocked! I did manage to say “Next time please don’t hit from our yard”, too stunned to think of much else to say!
He yells over his shoulder, “just giving your grass a trim!”
We were both dumbstruck! He was not only rude but so arrogant and entitled. Obviously knows nothing of golf etiquette, or etiquette in general.

He also doesn't know anything about the rules of golf seeing as how your yard is obviously out of bounds.

[Chatbrat]

Wondering how many people never played golf before moving to TV--"free" anything attracts the wannabe's

[graciegirl]

Wondering how many people never played golf before moving to TV--"free" anything attracts the wannabe's

Many Villagers have played all of their lives and many are just now beginning to play. For me, I have played golf for 47 years and paid much more for it than here.

I think the biggest "draw" here is the beautifully maintained "feel" to this very large place. I sometimes think as I drive along in the golf cart that the Astors and The Vanderbilts and the Rockefellers didn't live as well.

We have not acres, but miles of flowers and trimmed bushes and green lawns and whimsical squares and people who have lived long enough to appreciate the joy of leisure and the opportunities to explore and enjoy what they didn't have time for before. I have NEVER once run into anyone who in answer to the question, "What made you choose The Villages?" said
THE FREE STUFF.

We are mostly hard working, law abiding people who have good taste and have carefully planned and diligently saved and sacrificed to live well in these later years. WE ARE NOT POOR in spirit or in character or in fact. We are careful and independent and fiercly proud and one of our collective horrors would to be to accept "free stuff" as a matter of daily living.

[photo1902]

Beautifully put, Gracie!

[rjn5656]

The good thing is there are only a few of these type of people. Most golfers are great people and are just out having a good time.

[Gpsma]

The good thing is there are only a few of these type of people. Most golfers are great people and are just out having a good time.

My neighbor works at the golf courses and thinks golfers are rudest, most demamding and selfish people in TV.

[graciegirl]

My neighbor works at the golf courses and thinks golfers are rudest, most demamding and selfish people in TV.

I doubt it.

[photo1902]

First World problems

[Chatbrat]

Its true, look @ they way they take over clubs and subject the dining room to their loud obnoxious conversations, try to have low level conversation @ a bar after noon time

[EPutnam1863]

I find all of society is becoming more "I will do whatever I want". I don't like it.

Neither do I.

[EPutnam1863]

Wondering how many people never played golf before moving to TV--"free" anything attracts the wannabe's

When we visited some friends in TV, my husband was taken out to their "free" executive golf course to play golf. He was surprised to see that it was only par 3 and was completely unchallenging. The grass was in poor condition. I guess he was spoiled after having played golf in Pebble Beach, CA. But these "free" courses are great for those wanting or needing to practice everyday before attempting the championship courses.

[graciegirl]

When we visited some friends in TV, my husband was taken out to their "free" executive golf course to play golf. He was surprised to see that it was only par 3 and was completely unchallenging. The grass was in poor condition. I guess he was spoiled after having played golf in Pebble Beach, CA. But these "free" courses are great for those wanting or needing to practice everyday before attempting the championship courses.

There are three levels of challenge in all of the executive courses. Some are quite easy and some are very difficult from the back tees. I would say that many who live here have played some remarkable courses in this country and abroad.

As for loud golfers, anyone who drinks becomes louder. I suppose that doesn't happen with the folks who only drink top shelf.

[Bogie Shooter]

My neighbor works at the golf courses and thinks golfers are rudest, most demamding and selfish people in TV.

All? A few? One?

[Chatbrat]

No, it doesn't happen to people who have manners and know how to drink, unlike out of town traveling salesmen types

[Bogie Shooter]

When we visited some friends in TV, my husband was taken out to their "free" executive golf course to play golf. He was surprised to see that it was only par 3 and was completely unchallenging. The grass was in poor condition. I guess he was spoiled after having played golf in Pebble Beach, CA. But these "free" courses are great for those wanting or needing to practice everyday before attempting the championship courses.

Where do you live?

[Bogie Shooter]

I think it is the “long” pour that causes the loud noise.:wine:

[DonH57]

There are three levels of challenge in all of the executive courses. Some are quite easy and some are very difficult from the back tees. I would say that many who live here have played some remarkable courses in this country and abroad.

As for loud golfers, anyone who drinks becomes louder. I suppose that doesn't happen with the folks who only drink top shelf.

The executive courses are also ranked 1 to 4 levels. I believe Silver Lake, Hilltop and Chula Vista have two tees.

[dewilson58]

We live in Gilchrist with our lanai overlooking the 8th green of Kildeer. Pinellas Place runs between our lanai and the course.
We had just moved in and were sitting on our lanai and watching the golfers putt on the green.
All of the sudden this ball lands in our yard. The next thing we know, this guy comes running across Pinellas with his pitching wedge and before we could say anything he hits his ball from our yard back across Pinellas toward the green!!
We were shocked! I did manage to say “Next time please don’t hit from our yard”, too stunned to think of much else to say!
He yells over his shoulder, “just giving your grass a trim!”
We were both dumbstruck! He was not only rude but so arrogant and entitled. Obviously knows nothing of golf etiquette, or etiquette in general.


Great Self Control on your part.

[Bjeanj]

I am still mulling over the idea of buying one of those paintball guns for those who feel they can breech the rules with impunity. Not only golfers, but golf cart drivers. :-)

But then, I would then fall into that category, wouldn’t I?

But maybe I should take Mickelson’s lead and evaluate the pros and cons before I took some action. Would I get probation? Would LE just roll their eyes at the old, senile person and laugh it off? Would I get sued? If so, would my umbrella policy cover it?

So many questions ...

[VApeople]

When we visited some friends in TV, my husband was taken out to their "free" executive golf course to play golf. He was surprised to see that it was only par 3 and was completely unchallenging.

If your husband were an experienced golfer, he would have know that 'executive' courses are always short with mostly par 3 holes


I guess he was spoiled after having played golf in Pebble Beach, CA.

You mean our exec courses are not the same quality as Pebble Beach? What a surprise.

[bilcon]

Oh the stories I could tell while living on the course. Guys playing in the dark with their headlights pointed to the green. Golfers driving all over my yard looking for a ball. Another guy telling me to f... o.. when I told him to stop beating my shrubs while he was looking for his ball. (Unfortunately I went after him, but the coward drove away). I was able to id him and found out he actually worked on one of the courses. No more. Daily Sun published the golf etiquette rules on Feb. 4, 2013. They need to be published again. Never play or retrieve a ball from the yard of a resident. Report any damage of private property. Playing is strictly prohibited beyond the property line of a resident, even if not designated by white stakes.
90% of our golfers are great and respectful and I am more than happy to let them get their ball (unless it's a ProV1) The trees have finally grown so I get very few balls any more. Love the view! ps last time I played Evans Prairie, I had to call up and tell them the fairways were so wet they should ban carts. We were sinking. Where is the course superintendent?

[Barefoot]

When we visited some friends in TV, my husband was taken out to their "free" executive golf course to play golf. He was surprised to see that it was only par 3 and was completely unchallenging. The grass was in poor condition. I guess he was spoiled after having played golf in Pebble Beach, CA. But these "free" courses are great for those wanting or needing to practice everyday before attempting the championship courses.
The "free" executive courses are also great for most of us golfers who have no desire to play a championship course. :ohdear:

[eweissenbach]

When we visited some friends in TV, my husband was taken out to their "free" executive golf course to play golf. He was surprised to see that it was only par 3 and was completely unchallenging. The grass was in poor condition. I guess he was spoiled after having played golf in Pebble Beach, CA. But these "free" courses are great for those wanting or needing to practice everyday before attempting the championship courses.

Hmmmm, I play "championship" courses regularly and have played some tour courses but not Pebble. I love to play the executive courses, and usually try to play the level three and four tracks. I find the execs in TV to be mostly well maintained and designed and in some cases quite challenging (tell your hubby to try Pelican). I don't look at them as "practice" for the championship courses, but rather a unique experience on their own. I usually play in ninety minutes or less and enjoy not always having to slog through a five hour round. Everybody has to find their own comfort zone - mine is rather sizeable.

[perrjojo]

We do not live on a golf course here but have lived on Country Club courses in Texas and Georgia. Oh, the stories I could tell. It’s just not here in TV.

[patfla06]

a new reason all golf carts should have some kind of id, be it a tag or decal

I think it’s become necessary due to the population.

[patfla06]

We live in Gilchrist with our lanai overlooking the 8th green of Kildeer. Pinellas Place runs between our lanai and the course.
We had just moved in and were sitting on our lanai and watching the golfers putt on the green.
All of the sudden this ball lands in our yard. The next thing we know, this guy comes running across Pinellas with his pitching wedge and before we could say anything he hits his ball from our yard back across Pinellas toward the green!!
We were shocked! I did manage to say “Next time please don’t hit from our yard”, too stunned to think of much else to say!
He yells over his shoulder, “just giving your grass a trim!”
We were both dumbstruck! He was not only rude but so arrogant and entitled. Obviously knows nothing of golf etiquette, or etiquette in general.

Unreal!

[CFrance]

When we visited some friends in TV, my husband was taken out to their "free" executive golf course to play golf. He was surprised to see that it was only par 3 and was completely unchallenging. The grass was in poor condition. I guess he was spoiled after having played golf in Pebble Beach, CA. But these "free" courses are great for those wanting or needing to practice everyday before attempting the championship courses.
I bet Pebble Beach wasn't free.

[golfing eagles]

I bet Pebble Beach wasn't free.

Not quite-----$495 off season, $525 in season. Plus it's hard to get a tee time unless you stay at one of the resorts for $800-$1200/night. Now if you don't mind putting on a lunar landscape, the fee is only $250 for the week of 9/4 after they aerate.

[CFrance]

Not quite-----$495 off season, $525 in season. Plus it's hard to get a tee time unless you stay at one of the resorts for $800-$1200/night. Now if you don't mind putting on a lunar landscape, the fee is only $250 for the week of 9/4 after they aerate.
Yes, so hardly a good comparison between a TV course and Pebble Beach.:o

[Sanibel7]

My neighbor works at the golf courses and thinks golfers are rudest, most demamding and selfish people in TV.

We
used to live on a golf course and the golfers will stop at nothing to get their ball even after they had hit your home.I was even told thats what you get for living on a golf course. The ambassadors cannot do a thing about these rude golfers and yes there were many! We had to move and are very happy to be away from that nightmare and yes it was in the villages!

[EPutnam1863]

My neighbor works at the golf courses and thinks golfers are rudest, most demamding and selfish people in TV.

Straight from the horse's mouth...or better still, straight from the gopher's mouth...

[EPutnam1863]

If your husband were an experienced golfer, he would have know that 'executive' courses are always short with mostly par 3 holes




You mean our exec courses are not the same quality as Pebble Beach? What a surprise.

Yes, he was surprised because of the way our friends were raving endlessly about the golf courses as if they were of the Pebble Beach caliber. He was not told the course was "executive." In fact, he accepted their invitation to see for himself because he could not believe that it was possible to play on such a great course for free.

By the way, we lived only 1/2 hour from Pebble Beach, so he did not have to stay at an expensive resort there. But yes the fee was high but well worth it because of its beauty and challenges. I am sure you have seen it on television.

However I acknowledge it would be great to be able to play golf all day and every day 365 (366 in a leap years) days a year without having to pay anything except for trail fees if you don't bring your own golf cart.

[kcrazorbackfan]

I can think of a number of reasons...why that would/could have been a dumb thing to do. :oops:

Especially since the person wasn't on his (or his neighbors) property.

GE could have called Community Watch though...and maybe they could have caught the jerk.

What is the numbers of reasons? NO ONE, except meters readers and people that I invite are allowed on my “castles” property.

[ColdNoMore]

What is the numbers of reasons? NO ONE, except meters readers and people that I invite are allowed on my “castles” property.

You really need to read my post...a little slower. :oops:

Especially since the person wasn't on his (or his neighbors) property.

So your reference to the 'Castle Doctrine/Stand Your Ground' law...is completely moot. :ohdear:

However, your mistake actually gives credence...as to one of the reasons.

If GE had left his property and went out on the course to confront the jerk, the jerk very easily could have pulled a weapon on him...claiming that he felt a 'perceived threat.'

So thanks for proving my point. :thumbup:

[Chatbrat]

the fight you will always win, is the one you avoid/ per-my ccw insurer

[davem4616]

well this certainly is another fine example of why there are more 'horses asses' than there are horses

[Blessed2BNTV]

Many Villagers have played all of their lives and many are just now beginning to play. For me, I have played golf for 47 years and paid much more for it than here.

I think the biggest "draw" here is the beautifully maintained "feel" to this very large place. I sometimes think as I drive along in the golf cart that the Astors and The Vanderbilts and the Rockefellers didn't live as well.

We have not acres, but miles of flowers and trimmed bushes and green lawns and whimsical squares and people who have lived long enough to appreciate the joy of leisure and the opportunities to explore and enjoy what they didn't have time for before. I have NEVER once run into anyone who in answer to the question, "What made you choose The Villages?" said
THE FREE STUFF.

We are mostly hard working, law abiding people who have good taste and have carefully planned and diligently saved and sacrificed to live well in these later years. WE ARE NOT POOR in spirit or in character or in fact. We are careful and independent and fiercly proud and one of our collective horrors would to be to accept "free stuff" as a matter of daily living.

Again.....what she said. Well said my friend.

[OhioBuckeye]

Why didn't you confront the idiot?

Personally I think it would of gotten into a bad scene. Today's world a lot of people would of just given you the 1 finger salute, or just gotten into an argument with you. The best thing this person could of done is called the Villages front office & let them handle it. Taking the law into your own hands wouldn't of been a good idea unless you were 6' 6" weighed 300 lbs. & had a pit bull temper. I'm really surprised that nobody that worked for TV saw this retard!

[robinsdw2]

I would have just picked up the ball and added it to my collection.

[Love2Swim]

When we visited some friends in TV, my husband was taken out to their "free" executive golf course to play golf. He was surprised to see that it was only par 3 and was completely unchallenging. The grass was in poor condition. I guess he was spoiled after having played golf in Pebble Beach, CA. But these "free" courses are great for those wanting or needing to practice everyday before attempting the championship courses.

Yes, you generally get what you pay for. In fairness, all of the golf courses really vary as far as the condition, generally according to time of year. There is a separate section on TOTV where you can see the comments on golf course conditions. Those residents who have played a lot of golf over the years, tend not to be impressed by conditions in The Villages. One of the problems is that courses are maintained by outside maintenance companies as opposed to our courses up north where there were individual greenskeepers and their staff that took personal pride in their course. Some maintenance companies are better that others, but once the The Villages has hired a company, I think they have a contract to honor for a particular amount of time, and things can go downhill in a hurry, then take a long time to bring back up to speed if a replacement maintenance company is hired.

[Topspinmo]

Oh the stories I could tell while living on the course. Guys playing in the dark with their headlights pointed to the green. Golfers driving all over my yard looking for a ball. Another guy telling me to f... o.. when I told him to stop beating my shrubs while he was looking for his ball. (Unfortunately I went after him, but the coward drove away). I was able to id him and found out he actually worked on one of the courses. No more. Daily Sun published the golf etiquette rules on Feb. 4, 2013. They need to be published again. Never play or retrieve a ball from the yard of a resident. Report any damage of private property. Playing is strictly prohibited beyond the property line of a resident, even if not designated by white stakes.
90% of our golfers are great and respectful and I am more than happy to let them get their ball (unless it's a ProV1) The trees have finally grown so I get very few balls any more. Love the view! ps last time I played Evans Prairie, I had to call up and tell them the fairways were so wet they should ban carts. We were sinking. Where is the course superintendent?

On the rare occasion I play golf I never look for ball I hit out of boundaries. For one I'm too embarrassed and two Only a cheap X$$ DS looks for balls holding up play.

[Chellybean]

I don't recall anyone being rude to me when we lived on a golf course. If you choose to live on a course you will see from time to time some annoying things and people will tromp through your yard. But that is true of anywhere. Some folks are nicer and more patient than others no matter where you live.

I am sorry Gracie girl the rules are for everyone just not the ones that want to follow them.
Some folks are in a very bad way to the proximate of the tee box and get a lot of balls a day that are being retrieved by rude golfers.
I am glad you had a positive experience.
However not everyone is as luck as you.
Stay Well.

[Bambi]

No Gracie, I don’t like golfers (strangers) tromping thru my yard especially at dusk. Nor do I like my bushes beat by golfers. Rules are rules Gracie and we expect others to abide by them. My tolerance for trespassers is apparently not as high as yours. I live in Marion county part of The Villages where there is not a sign restriction -size or content. . My neighbor and I are considering “posting” our properties. May help if a golfer slips on my
wet grass as far as liability. I don’t like finding people in the front yard looking for a ball when the golf course is in the back.

[limegreensaab]

We were playing Mira Mesa yesterday and at the 7th hole discovered two children in a battery-powered “car” riding all over the green. No adults in sight — kids were oblivious. Finally a woman cane out and said “sorry, my husband thought the course was closed”! Seriously ?!? How can you live on a GC and not know it’s never ok to drive ANYTHING on the green? Can you imagine if one of our drives had hit one of the kids? Aye yi yi

[villagerjack]

Wondering how many people never played golf before moving to TV--"free" anything attracts the wannabe's

Why do you wonder that?

[villagerjack]

a new reason all golf carts should have some kind of ID, be it a tag or decal

So let’s ounish everyone for the actions of someone we do not know?

[tophcfa]

So here we are, 7:50, after some heavy rain. Egret had been closed all day for maintenance, the pins were laid alongside the green and the tee markers were not set out. Lo and behold, along comes a single playing down 6, skips 7, then plays 8. IF the course was even open, it most likely would be cart path only, but this guy just drives his cart down the middle of the fairway, sloshing along all the way. Didn't bother to fill his divot, drove right up to the green between the putting surface and a bunker, and then skidded down the hill. God only knows how much damage he did to the course, as well as where he got his entitled attitude. Geez.

This does indeed infuriate me. Although it won't happen, in my opinion this person should be banned from playing all Villages golf courses for a year. If the same person is caught doing this again, they should be banned for life.

Oh well, if there is a silver lining to this storm cloud it is that it can't be blamed on snowbirds, although I suspect it would have been had the incident occurred during the busy season.

[Shbullet]

If your husband were an experienced golfer, he would have know that 'executive' courses are always short with mostly par 3 holes




You mean our exec courses are not the same quality as Pebble Beach? What a surprise.


And I bet he didnt par each hole!

[crash]

Wondering how many people never played golf before moving to TV--"free" anything attracts the wannabe's

Really Wanna Be because they want to take up golf which they do pay for every month whether the golf or not in their amenity fee.

Yes everyone should follow the rules but just because someone is new to the game of golf should not make them a wanna be.

[stan the man]

Why didn't you confront the idiot?

Amen

[karostay]

When we visited some friends in TV, my husband was taken out to their "free" executive golf course to play golf. He was surprised to see that it was only par 3 and was completely unchallenging. The grass was in poor condition. I guess he was spoiled after having played golf in Pebble Beach, CA. But these "free" courses are great for those wanting or needing to practice everyday before attempting the championship courses.

Did he shoot under par?
I bet not

[EPutnam1863]

Great Self Control on your part.

Oh I think he does know about golf etiquette but does not care.

[EPutnam1863]

On the rare occasion I play golf I never look for ball I hit out of boundaries. For one I'm too embarrassed and two Only a cheap X$$ DS looks for balls holding up play.

Cheap? You ought to see players at the Suntree Golf Course un Melbourne, FL. They literally search for their balls in the ponds.

[graciegirl]

Cheap? You ought to see players at the Suntree Golf Course un Melbourne, FL. They literally search for their balls in the ponds.

Alligators consider that menu item...…..



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Duffer Oysters.

[DonH57]

Cheap? You ought to see players at the Suntree Golf Course un Melbourne, FL. They literally search for their balls in the ponds.

There are definately those cheap types here in the villages. You know those white and green striped " Villages" practice balls for range use, I stumble upon them where ever I play? I gather them and return them home to the range.:MOJE_whot: