Rules on decorations in TV

[Chi33]

Are there any strictly enforced rules on American Flags (which I don't think of as a decoration but as patriotic) or any lawn decorations? I have even seen political signs.

I seem to remember there are no religion ones allowed, but even if in the contract would other things be enforced, or do multiple people have to complain.

And are their differences between a designer home and a villa.

I am sure people moving here would love to know.

[vintageogauge]

Whatever deed restrictions you or anyone may have should be followed and if not they should be enforced and the homeowner should be made to follow such rules and regulations. These restrictions were not placed because they want to be bad mean developers, they are in place to protect the communities from becoming eyesores. A statue in a front yard may be viewed by some as very nice but by others very ugly, by following the regulations no one gets offended. Same thing with dogs running around without leashes, why do those particular dog owners feel that they are exempt from the deed restrictions requiring dogs to be on a leash at all times if outside. You can go to your district website and see the restrictions that apply to your home. I remember 10 or 12 years ago when someone in the area of Canal painted their home purple. That was not allowed for obvious reasons and they had to change the color, now assume that if there were no restrictions on home colors what you street or neighborhood could look like. The regulations and restrictions are in place, follow them and you'll have no problems, remember that you agreed to do just that when you signed your deed.

[Challenger]

Are there any strictly enforced rules on American Flags (which I don't think of as a decoration but as patriotic) or any lawn decorations? I have even seen political signs.

I seem to remember there are no religion ones allowed, but even if in the contract would other things be enforced, or do multiple people have to complain.

And are their differences between a designer home and a villa.

I am sure people moving here would love to know.

Florida Statute 2018-- Sec 720.304

no restriction shall be enforced regarding flags as long as following conditions are met

One 4 1/2 ft x 6 (maximum) American flag plus one same size or smaller US Armed service flag or POW or MIA flag. All other flags are subject to applicable deed restrictions or covenants and may therefore be banned. Maximum pole height = 20 ft.

No Trump flags or sports teams nor colleges nor jolly rogers, religious banners etc.

[Chi33]

Florida Statute 2018-- Sec 720.304

no restriction shall be enforced regarding flags as long as following conditions are met

One 4 1/2 ft x 6 (maximum) American flag plus one same size or smaller US Armed service flag or POW or MIA flag. All other flags are subject to applicable deed restrictions or covenants and may therefore be banned. Maximum pole height = 20 ft.

No Trump flags or sports teams nor colleges nor jolly rogers, religious banners etc.

Thank you Challenger and vintageogauge. The American flag post was unknown to me. I learned something today.

[tomwed]

75593 If this wooden flag conformed to the correct size would it be permitted? Would there need to be a light on it? What if it was inside a lanai?

[Challenger]

75593 If this wooden flag conformed to the correct size would it be permitted? Would there need to be a light on it? What if it was inside a lanai?

Don't think it would comply where there are non plant ornament restrictions. Does not fall within the permissive clause of the Florida law. However , probably would meet "Holiday exceptions for July 4 th, etc. for limited period , like small flag lawn displays. (JMH guess)

Have not researched this issue deeply!

[tomwed]

Don't think it would comply where there are non plant ornament restrictions. Does not fall within the permissive clause of the Florida law. However , probably would meet "Holiday exceptions for July 4 th, etc. for limited period , like small flag lawn displays. (JMH guess)

Have not researched this issue deeply!Thank-you I was thinking about hanging it on the building. I see many homes with compasses or other ornamental displays in the side of buildings. Do you need to ask for permission?

[EdFNJ]

Thank-you I was thinking about hanging it on the building. I see many homes with compasses or other ornamental displays in the side of buildings. Do you need to ask for permission?


The fact it is made of wood would more than likely NOT make it permissible under the state "flag law" and I from what I have been reading on this forum over the last 2 years I highly doubt anything can be "legally" attached to your home where it is visible from the street without permission other than street numbers. I doubt the "but it's a flag" would get you exempt by TV. Of course worse case you can put it up (don't use too many nails!) and see if anyone complains. Lots of people get away with stuff it seems and it certainly wouldn't be a jailable offense but if so I'm sure bail would be reasonable. :).

[champion6]

Are there any strictly enforced rules on American Flags (which I don't think of as a decoration but as patriotic) or any lawn decorations? I have even seen political signs.
I seem to remember there are no religion ones allowed, but even if in the contract would other things be enforced, or do multiple people have to complain.
And are their differences between a designer home and a villa.
I am sure people moving here would love to know.The correct answer is that it depends on where you live in TV. The Covenants and Restrictions are not identical for the entire community. They vary by County, Community Development District, and Unit. You can find a copy of YOURS here: Village Community Development Districts (http://www.districtgov.org/departments/community-standards/download.aspx)

[Bogie Shooter]

The fact it is made of wood would more than likely NOT make it permissible under the state "flag law" and I from what I have been reading on this forum over the last 2 years I highly doubt anything can be "legally" attached to your home where it is visible from the street without permission other than street numbers. I doubt the "but it's a flag" would get you exempt by TV. Of course worse case you can put it up (don't use too many nails!) and see if anyone complains. Lots of people get away with stuff it seems and it certainly wouldn't be a jailable offense but if so I'm sure bail would be reasonable. :).

Suggest a reading of your deed restrictions. Nothing in mine about decorative hangings.

[Trzolnoski]

Florida Statute 2018-- Sec 720.304
I read the above Statute and could not find Trump's
Name anywhere in it. Strange that you would say that.

[Bogie Shooter]

Florida Statute 2018-- Sec 720.304
I read the above Statute and could not find Trump's
Name anywhere in it. Strange that you would say that.
not strange, during last election...…...they were flying everywhere.

[Challenger]

not strange, during last election...…...they were flying everywhere.

O'Dell -still there Only political flag I have seen . Would have criticized George Washington Flag if I had seen one.

[Challenger]

Florida Statute 2018-- Sec 720.304
I read the above Statute and could not find Trump's
Name anywhere in it. Strange that you would say that.

Not strange -- Drive down O,Dell toward Havana.

I am an Oriole Fan . Same street Oriole Flag from time to time. Also not appropriate.

[EdFNJ]

Suggest a reading of your deed restrictions. Nothing in mine about decorative hangings.

Attached to the side of a house ? Kinda doubt that would fly (no pun intended) if disputed. Aside from local "local" DR's which are specific to ones area aren't there "generic" ones that cover everyone?

I believe that just because every possibility known to mankind is not covered by ones DR there probably are some general rules that apply all over they can find to cover it. I can't imagine them permitting me to cover 12' x 24' area with a huge mural nailed to the side of my house just because it is not specifically excluded any more then they would allow a 2' x 4' wooden flag.

I guess you can take 'em to court but they have dozens of high-priced lawyers on the payroll who could eat anyone up alive. :)

[tomwed]

(2)(a) Any homeowner may display one portable, removable United States flag or official flag of the State of Florida in a respectful manner, and one portable, removable official flag, in a respectful manner, not larger than 41/2 feet by 6 feet, which represents the United States Army, Navy, Air Force, Marine Corps, or Coast Guard, or a POW-MIA flag, regardless of any covenants, restrictions, bylaws, rules, or requirements of the association.

Florida Statute 2018-- Sec 720.304

How would you define removable in this situation? Would it need to be removed daily? If a storm was coming up or I was to go away for a while it would be removed. I'm not trying to start an argument or stir the pot, just curious. Are there rules about what you can hang in a lanai? I followed an earlier link to the ccd site and can't find what I am looking for.

[Bogie Shooter]

Attached to the side of a house ? Kinda doubt that would fly (no pun intended) if disputed. Aside from local "local" DR's which are specific to ones area aren't there "generic" ones that cover everyone?

I believe that just because every possibility known to mankind is not covered by ones DR there probably are some general rules that apply all over they can find to cover it. I can't imagine them permitting me to cover 12' x 24' area with a huge mural nailed to the side of my house just because it is not specifically excluded any more then they would allow a 2' x 4' wooden flag.

I guess you can take 'em to court but they have dozens of high-priced lawyers on the payroll who could eat anyone up alive. :)
Who is they?

[EdFNJ]

Who is they?


Them over there. Them there guys.

[Bogie Shooter]

Them over there. Them there guys.

I thought so.

[EdFNJ]

I thought so.


I knew we were on the same page. :thumbup:

[Bogie Shooter]

I knew we were on the same page. :thumbup:

You don’t know who “they” are, do you?

[EdFNJ]

You don’t know who “they” are, do you?


:"They" are those who know. "They" are those who can price peanuts by pound without weighing them. If you saw "them" you would know. ;)

[Wiotte]

What about the Confederate battle flag flying at a backyard next to the Liberty Park gate ? Been up at least a year now.


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[Two Bills]

Back yards seem to be an, 'anything goes' area.
As for flags, crosses. ornaments etc. in front gardens, where you live, and whether you have live and let live neighbors, must also be in the equation as to what you can get away with.
There was a report, on the site that must not be mentioned, that there were a couple of 'vigilante' type residents:police:, touring round and reporting any restriction digressions. Myth or true, I know not.

[ColdNoMore]

What about the Confederate battle flag flying at a backyard next to the Liberty Park gate ? Been up at least a year now.

There are a few of those...flying here in TV. :oops:

I just drive by and laugh, while thinking..."angry, treasonous losers." :D

[Challenger]

What about the Confederate battle flag flying at a backyard next to the Liberty Park gate ? Been up at least a year now.


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Turn them in. Ignoring the problem just perpetuates the abuse.:a040:

[billethkid]

Abuse is unfortunately subjective....in the eye of the abusee.....sometimes prejudiced (abuser and abusee).

Violations per 100,000........minuscule.....lost in the rounding!

[Challenger]

Abuse is unfortunately subjective....in the eye of the abusee.....sometimes prejudiced (abuser and abusee).

Violations per 100,000........minuscule.....lost in the rounding!

Abuse is a fact . Either it is -or it isn't.

[billethkid]

Abuse is a fact . Either it is -or it isn't.

One persons abuse position is another persons so what!!!

That is why TV system is complaint driven VS enforcement....too subjective!

[Rapscallion St Croix]

What about the Confederate battle flag flying at a backyard next to the Liberty Park gate ? Been up at least a year now.


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If they took it down and replaced it with a Christian flag, would they then be in compliance?

[Challenger]

If they took it down and replaced it with a Christian flag, would they then be in compliance?

No no no

[Challenger]

One persons abuse position is another persons so what!!!

That is why TV system is complaint driven VS enforcement....too subjective!

True, but it doesn't change the factual situation.