Roundup and cancer

[Chi33]

Roundup was just found to cause cancer. by a jury Glyphosate is the cause. So, I have 2 gallon jugs of Roundup in my garage? What do I do?

PS; No trolling here, it is true.

[tophcfa]

It's been known round up is a carcinogen for a long time, now the courts finally recognize it. Instead of round up, we use agriculture strength vinegar (30% concentration) as a very effective weed killer. Just don't get it on bare skin or in your eyes.

[Gpsma]

Even oncologists cant determine what “causes” cancer. There are contributing factors to cancer but to rely on a jury in of all places California to determine that Roundup caused this man,s cancer is ridiculous.

Its nothing more than a jury rewarding this man money against the evil corporation.

If u dont want to use roundup, just properly dispose of it

[graciegirl]

Monsanto ‘Roundup' Cases Proceed in Calif. Courts | Bloomberg Law (https://www.bna.com/monsanto-roundup-cases-n57982064310/)

[mickey100]

A chemical can have different effects depending on the level of exposure. Roundup may not be carcinogenic at the low levels found in food we eat, for example, but the research points to it being carcinogenic at high doses, which would affect workers who handle it on a regular basis, particularly if inadequate protection was used.

[CFrance]

Where does one buy agricultural strength vinegar near The Villages?

[Bjeanj]

My understanding was that as long as you don’t get it on your skin or inhale it, you should be ok.Is that wrong?

[tophcfa]

Where does one buy agricultural strength vinegar near The Villages?

The same place you can get just about anything, Amazon. Just google agriculture vinegar and go to the link on amazon. We bought a case of 4 gallons with 30% acid concentration and a lawn sprayer to apply it for about $100. Delivered to our door in a couple of days and enough to last a long time. Just be careful to wear protective clothing and eye protection when applying, especially if windy.

[Jima64]

The enviros will eventually convince the feds and dept. of agr. To remove it with their scare tactics like they did with dursban, diazanon, lindane and chlordane. The vinegar folks will enjoy the price increases. What happens to the salt some add to help it top kill? But this is progress?

[Trayderjoe]

My understanding was that as long as you don’t get it on your skin or inhale it, you should be ok.Is that wrong?

In my opinion, you are not wrong (assuming you don't drink it or allow pets to lap it up). My understanding is that Round Up breaks down once it hits the soil. It would be a larger concern if Round Up was found to be a persistent accumulative toxin, in which case you could have a "hot spot" on your lawn...but that is not the case here.

I would wear long pants, safety glasses and chemical resistant gloves using ANY insecticide, pesticide or fungicide. Check the wind direction before spraying and use with plenty of ventilation. If you are in any way uncomfortable then you should look for another product.

By the by, I would be more concerned with spraying a corrosive material like 30% vinegar (30% acidic is quite corrosive). Here is a link to the material safety data sheet (http://earthwiseagriculture.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/MSDS-Mizkan-15-Vinegar.pdf) for 10-30% vinegar. You will note that it is acutely toxic (and could be fatal) by inhalation.

Again, you need to be aware of the hazards and use any chemical per the manufacturer's recommendations. Here is a link to a material safety data sheet for Roundup (www.roundup.com.au/files/download/180). Note that you might want to do a Google search to determine if you have the latest copy (MSDS sheets are generally required to be updated with any changes)

[tophcfa]

The enviros will eventually convince the feds and dept. of agr. To remove it with their scare tactics like they did with dursban, diazanon, lindane and chlordane. The vinegar folks will enjoy the price increases. What happens to the salt some add to help it top kill? But this is progress?

I see you made a living selling nasty chemicals in your profile, so I understand where your comments are rooted, but absolutely don't agree with them. People that don't want to get cancer, or worse yet, have it re-occure, are not environs for not wanting to use nasty proven carcinogens. And yes, I hope round-up is banned and don't care what it does to the price of vinegar. No matter how much the price goes up, it would be a drop in the bucket compared to the cost and anguish of treating cancer. And I will only add salt to the vinegar if it is an area that we never again want anything to grow. The Vinegar will kill growth, but unlike salt it will not permanently ruin the soil for any future vegetation. Tread lightly my friend.

[CFrance]

I see you made a living selling nasty chemicals in your profile, so I understand where your comments are rooted, but absolutely don't agree with them. People that don't want to get cancer, or worse yet, have it re-occure, are not environs for not wanting to use nasty proven carcinogens. And yes, I hope round-up is banned and don't care what it does to the price of vinegar. No matter how much the price goes up, it would be a drop in the bucket compared to the cost and anguish of treating cancer. And I will only add salt to the vinegar if it is an area that we never again want anything to grow. The Vinegar will kill growth, but unlike salt it will not permanently ruin the soil for any future vegetation. Tread lightly my friend.
I fear you have entered into a long uphill battle. People don't even want to give up their plastic straws.

[JP]

Vinegar is a chemical. You may like that it is "natural", but it is a chemical. I highly doubt that guy got his Hodgkins cancer from using roundup because if he did there would be a lot more people with similar cancers that have used roundup under similar circumstances. People always want to blame somebody or something for the bad things that happen to them.

[Sgroemm]

Just a farm perspective here....when we applied Round up to our 22 acre farm to kill off the weeds in preparation for planting each spring, it was applied by a boom sprayer (shoots about 40-50 feet) attached to the tractor....so a Round up fog settled over the fields....hence the farmer applying Round up has a air borne fog of the chemical surrounding their land until it settles.....very different than the tiny sprayer attached to my gallon jug of Round up in the garage.

Just as interesting....we could purchase "Round up ready seeds" that could be planted in the ground within 2 weeks of the spraying and would be able to grow even if sprayed with Round up....genetic engineering.....FDA approved....

[rivaridger1]

" Living " causes cancer. Unless you choose to live in a plastic bubble with purified air being pumped you are exposed to carcinogens. They are in the water, soil, air and food. If you lived 40,000 years ago you would have been exposed to them as well. People mined, smelted, smoked food and burned.
Cancer then killed you a lot more quickly and horribly. Too much exposure to any chemical compound will probably heighten the odds you will eventually develop cancer of some sort. Some have a genetic disposition for it as well.

[pauld315]

Roundup was just found to cause cancer. by a jury Glyphosate is the cause. So, I have 2 gallon jugs of Roundup in my garage? What do I do?

PS; No trolling here, it is true.

I will take it

[PennBF]

Going through a multiple number of cancers from Hodgkin's, Stomach (which was terminal), Uterus and various skin treatments it was brought out to us that causes of Cancer are either Genetics, Enviromental, or Chemical. It would seem Round Out falls under the chemical category. It is a major challenge to determine which was/is the cause in specific cases. In these cases the best guess was Hodgkins was chemical while stomach was genetic. These were just guesses. :ohdear:

[Bill32]

I think the various weed and vegetation killers may have already changed their formulations. We have tried all available products at Lowes and the weeds just laugh at them....making the products less potent causes us to use gallons more to try and control the weeds.... probably not good either for the land...20 years from now we will find out...

[Ralphy]

The person that won the lawsuit was using a commercial spreader on a farm. He was using RangerPro, which is a concentrated version of Roundup. It contains 41% of the active ingredient not 2% like in Roundup. Was the concentrate mixed to the proper strength? I also read that on more than one occasion, the wind blew the solution onto him soaking his clothes. I am going to keep using Roundup but only spraying the weeds and not me.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Why not just pull the weeds up? Save a ton of money. Also if it's cracks in the sidewalk, you could just use a bleach solution: 1 tablespoon per pint and *pour* it on the weed instead of spraying it. Kills it just as dead as if you used Roundup. Will also kill any red ants living in those weeds.