Airbnb, good or bad?

[tophcfa]

Just wondering what others think? We have a couple of neighbors on our road in Villages that rent their home on a nightly basis. We are really not on board with this as an appropriate home business that should be happening in our residential community. A revolving turnstyle of non-residents who show little respect for our neighborhood certainly does not enhance the Villages lifestyle.

[Tweety Bird]

This is an interesting post. I have wondered how Airbnb would be viewed in The Villages. But, how are revolving people being disrespectful?

[JoMar]

You are not alone.....but they own the house and I guess can do what they want as long as it's legal. If you search online you will find there are many houses in TV that are on Airbnb. Everything from patio to premier.

[Schaumburger]

I'm speaking strictly as a guest of Airbnb. i have used Airbnb twice to stay in The Villages during high season. My Airbnb's stays were in January of 2017 for 3 days and in February of this year for 5 days. During high season it is just about impossible to get a rental for less than 3 months. I would have loved to stayed longer during high season, but I still work full time (remember those days when you still worked full time?), and I have to work with the vacation time allotted to me by my employer.

While I was in The Villages during these visits, I broke no laws, did not damage any property and caused injury to no one.

I will be back in The Villages very soon for a visit. This time my visit will be longer. I fully intend to behave myself on this visit also.

Someday I hope to be a resident of The Villages. For the time being I will have to be content with being an occasional visitor.

[Chatbrat]

Just looked @ Airbnb reviews--It appears lots of people are renting out spare rooms/space & most of the rentals include golf carts, IMHO--including a golf cart is insane-from a liability standpoint

[bilcon]

Bad idea. Several years ago, when we lived in a villa, a guy down the street rented his villa for 3 nights. 2 Bedrooms, 7 people staying there. Kids were playing soccer on the golf course at night. Had to call Community watch. I thought this was a retirement community, not a resort. Just my opinion....


" I never made a mistake in my life. I thought I did once, but I was wrong." Charles Schulz

[Bill32]

Many deed restricted communities have a minimum length of stay rule written into their bylaws to prevent this...

[Chatbrat]

This what drove us out of a condo in Palm Coast--the minimum rental was supposed to be 30 days- 4 families would get together & rent a unit for 30 days & they would each get a the unit for a week--kids running thru the hallways , leaving bait buckets out for everyone to smell and bringing huge floats into the pool-- was way to much--

When a residential community becomes a bargain basement resort--its not good

[It's Hot There]

Like everything, there are good and there are bad experiences.

[perrjojo]

I thought it was against our covinents to run a business from your home. To me Air B&b is a business...not just a rental property. I wonder if anyone has brought this up with the powers that be. I sure Schaumburger is a very nice guest but nightly rentals are not a good idea for home values.

[Chatbrat]

Right on--short term and or daily rentals--degrade a community or how about hourly rates for a quickie

[New Englander]

Right on--short term and or daily rentals--degrade a community or how about hourly rates for a quickie

What's a quickie?

[khtg59]

AB&B has become major issue in San Diego area (I'm looking forward to getting to TV soon). Recent legislation passed to address the issue was very contentious, but necessary for many of the reasons mentioned in this thread. I don't view TV as a vacation hotspot for families...too far from Orlando attractions, but I would see it as something to address because I've seen the ugly side.

[Goldwingnut]

I thought it was against our covinents to run a business from your home. To me Air B&b is a business...not just a rental property. I wonder if anyone has brought this up with the powers that be. I sure Schaumburger is a very nice guest but nightly rentals are not a good idea for home values.

Agree, there are deed restrictions about running a business from your home. This is unfortunately an internal deed restriction issue so Community Standards department is powerless to enforce. It takes a resident challenging the developer to enforce the deed restriction (possibly in court) to correct this.

Personally, I’m totally against the entire rental idea anymore. Our CYV community has had a lot of renters over the years and most have been great people and many we still call friends. Unfortunately, we’ve had our share of “resorts guest” renters and a few were just jerks that have ruined my opinion of the whole rental idea. One long term renter currently in our neighborhood let’s thei dog run loose in the morning to do their business in neighboring yards. Time for her to go!

The abnb thing is a BAD deal for the residents a whole. I’m sure there’s good renters here through abnb but it’s not the community we agreed to. Too few have ruined a good thing for too many.

[charmed59]

When we first came down here on our Villages Lifestyle visit they put us in their newest section at the time, Alden Bungalows near Brownwood. We were surrounded by construction. The nearby infrastructure was lacking, and I just could not see myself here, and couldn’t imagine what it would be in a few years. My dear hubby then rented someone’s home near Sumter for a week and voila, he had a convert. Before we left we bought our first villages home.

Now that we are on our second home, I couldn’t give up the first. It’s in a great location with a great view and is perfect for one car and golf cart, but not two. We ended up getting a bigger house, but I know someday we will need to downsize, and I want to downsize to there. So in the meantime I rent it out. I keep in mind that some folks are coming to check out the Villages, and want to make it a positive experience for them. I leave them information and little villages gifts. People have given us very positive feed back, we are encouraging people to consider here for their long term retirement.

I see short term rentals as another option to get folks to experience our friendly town.

[tophcfa]

This is an interesting post. I have wondered how Airbnb would be viewed in The Villages. But, how are revolving people being disrespectful?

Lets see, where should I start. Noise, noise, noise, and more noise, people driving very fast and not yielding to walkers or bikers, not enough parking in the driveway so the renters park in the road causing traffic congestion, often in front of our house and on top of our sprinkler heads, renters (many, but not all) generally being much less friendly, at best, compared to residents. In general, we have found that many short term renters just don't display the pride in ownership and neighborhood camaraderie that most residents display. And many short term renters seem to always be in a hurry, and dam to anyone that does not yield to them and possibly slows them down. And did I mention the noise?

I understand that to promote demand for homes from part-time residents and investors, as well as full time residents, the Villages did not put tight rental regulations in the deed restrictions. However, I don't think the developers ever anticipated that short term rentals like Airbnb would grow as it has. Hopefully something can be done to amend the deed restrictions so that short term rentals run out of a residential home, being used as a business, can be stopped.

[Fraugoofy]

Devil's advocate.

Is there a difference for the consumer between a few days through airbnb and the Villages Lifestyle visit for a few days? About the same piece ($99 a night) and includes a golf cart...

As a Landlord, I don't personally use Airbnb...Just wondering what others think? We have a couple of neighbors on our road in Villages that rent their home on a nightly basis. We are really not on board with this as an appropriate home business that should be happening in our residential community. A revolving turnstyle of non-residents who show little respect for our neighborhood certainly does not enhance the Villages lifestyle.

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[Nucky]

My children us Airbnb and love it. They get wonderful homes for very reasonable rates and many landlords allow them to bring Tank & Shiloh with them, two humongous German Shepards. For me, I don't like the idea at all. Just doesn't appeal to me. I like Hampton Inn & Suites and most Hilton Hotels.

We have rental units around us and have had no problems at all, but I have an idea how to deter the Airbnb from spreading if it ever became a problem for me. The renters rate the rental and probably wouldn't give high marks if they didn't enjoy their stay. Just kidding, I wouldn't do anything underhanded. Probably. Do you think anyone ever gives a review on their own rental? Maybe people give a bad review when they never stayed in a house. Maybe its none of my business unless it affects me.

[Bay Kid]

What's a quickie?

A memory.

[graciegirl]

A memory.

:1rotfl:

[Chellybean]

My children us Airbnb and love it. They get wonderful homes for very reasonable rates and many landlords allow them to bring Tank & Shiloh with them, two humongous German Shepards. For me, I don't like the idea at all. Just doesn't appeal to me. I like Hampton Inn & Suites and most Hilton Hotels.

We have rental units around us and have had no problems at all, but I have an idea how to deter the Airbnb from spreading if it ever became a problem for me. The renters rate the rental and probably wouldn't give high marks if they didn't enjoy their stay. Just kidding, I wouldn't do anything underhanded. Probably. Do you think anyone ever gives a review on their own rental? Maybe people give a bad review when they never stayed in a house. Maybe its none of my business unless it affects me.

Fleas and Bed Bugs anyone!!!! Yuke

[Kahuna32162]

We have family coming for Thanksgiving this year and needed housing in our general area. I booked 2 very nice 2 bed, 2 bath cottage villas on Air BnB for 4 nights each. Very reasonable price in the location we wanted and much cheaper than staying in an area hotel, who seem to raise tier rates during any holiday period. We are dealing directly with the homeowners and not a management company which is reassuring.

[New Englander]

Agree, there are deed restrictions about running a business from your home. This is unfortunately an internal deed restriction issue so Community Standards department is powerless to enforce. It takes a resident challenging the developer to enforce the deed restriction (possibly in court) to correct this.

Personally, I’m totally against the entire rental idea anymore. Our CYV community has had a lot of renters over the years and most have been great people and many we still call friends. Unfortunately, we’ve had our share of “resorts guest” renters and a few were just jerks that have ruined my opinion of the whole rental idea. One long term renter currently in our neighborhood let’s thei dog run loose in the morning to do their business in neighboring yards. Time for her to go!

The abnb thing is a BAD deal for the residents a whole. I’m sure there’s good renters here through abnb but it’s not the community we agreed to. Too few have ruined a good thing for too many.

:agree:

[Dbinac]

Here are some other thoughts to consider. We chose to become airbnb hosts after having some wonderful experiences in Europe and the States.
We are proud to be ambassadors for The Villages. The vast majortiy of our guests are people interested in moving to The Villages. Several of them wanted to stay with current residents of The Villages so they could ask questions and get personal opinions of living in The Villages. Several of them have bought homes here within months of their visit with us, including one couple who now lives near us. Other guests have stayed with us while visiting older relatives or in for family reunions. Some are current homeowners whose property is rented by others on a long term basis. We are almost always home when we have guests. We recommend they rent carts from The Villages or other reputable cart rental businesses. We also have hosted traveling nurses and other professionals who have the need to be in The Villages for short times. We also occasionally allow small dogs to visit with their owners which many hotels do not. Our home is thoroughly cleaned between visits at a level that I believe, as a former Hyatt Regency manager, quality hotels would envy.
In the eighty plus guests we have had over the years our rating has consistently been five star, the highest rating possible. We have never had a negative review. Some of our guests book us year after year. We have earned and maintained a "Super Host Rating" from AirBnb. We pay our transit rental taxes monthly. And yes we have turned down guest requests from people we felt uncomfortable with but we feel our lives have been enriched by the kind, considerate and diverse guests with have had the honor to meet.

[JoMar]

Here are some other thoughts to consider. We chose to become airbnb hosts after having some wonderful experiences in Europe and the States.
We are proud to be ambassadors for The Villages. The vast majortiy of our guests are people interested in moving to The Villages. Several of them wanted to stay with current residents of The Villages so they could ask questions and get personal opinions of living in The Villages. Several of them have bought homes here within months of their visit with us, including one couple who now lives near us. Other guests have stayed with us while visiting older relatives or in for family reunions. Some are current homeowners whose property is rented by others on a long term basis. We are almost always home when we have guests. We recommend they rent carts from The Villages or other reputable cart rental businesses. We also have hosted traveling nurses and other professionals who have the need to be in The Villages for short times. We also occasionally allow small dogs to visit with their owners which many hotels do not. Our home is thoroughly cleaned between visits at a level that I believe, as a former Hyatt Regency manager, quality hotels would envy.
In the eighty plus guests we have had over the years our rating has consistently been five star, the highest rating possible. We have never had a negative review. Some of our guests book us year after year. We have earned and maintained a "Super Host Rating" from AirBnb. We pay our transit rental taxes monthly. And yes we have turned down guest requests from people we felt uncomfortable with but we feel our lives have been enriched by the kind, considerate and diverse guests with have had the honor to meet.

For me, the issue isn't about how you feel or how your guests feel, it'a about how you neighbors and community feels. We all know that you rent to make money and help cover your costs, not be an Ambassador for The Villages. There are houses that have been rented with multiple families, with spring breakers that have great parties until the wee hours, and young kids abound since Disney is only an hour away. If there wasn't something in it for the house owner there wouldn't be AirBnB.

[pqrstar]

Here are some other thoughts to consider. We chose to become airbnb hosts after having some wonderful experiences in Europe and the States.
We are proud to be ambassadors for The Villages. The vast majortiy of our guests are people interested in moving to The Villages. Several of them wanted to stay with current residents of The Villages so they could ask questions and get personal opinions of living in The Villages. Several of them have bought homes here within months of their visit with us, including one couple who now lives near us. Other guests have stayed with us while visiting older relatives or in for family reunions. Some are current homeowners whose property is rented by others on a long term basis. We are almost always home when we have guests. We recommend they rent carts from The Villages or other reputable cart rental businesses. We also have hosted traveling nurses and other professionals who have the need to be in The Villages for short times. We also occasionally allow small dogs to visit with their owners which many hotels do not. Our home is thoroughly cleaned between visits at a level that I believe, as a former Hyatt Regency manager, quality hotels would envy.
In the eighty plus guests we have had over the years our rating has consistently been five star, the highest rating possible. We have never had a negative review. Some of our guests book us year after year. We have earned and maintained a "Super Host Rating" from AirBnb. We pay our transit rental taxes monthly. And yes we have turned down guest requests from people we felt uncomfortable with but we feel our lives have been enriched by the kind, considerate and diverse guests with have had the honor to meet.

You say you are a host and an ambassador.
However you compare yourself to a Hotel business and say you pay your rental taxes.
I would say this is a BUSINESS.
My deed restrictions say a BUSINESS can not be operated out of a home.

[Buckeyephan]

In today's world, I find it astounding that anyone would let total strangers share their home. That seems extremely dangerous. I'm sure each person feels nothing bad could happen to them. I won't even address the fact that they are running a business from their home and bragging about their great reviews. I don't like the short-term rentals, but safety and security are a different concern. As for being ambassadors for The Villages, what a bunch of hogwash. It's all about the money.

[photo1902]

Although I agree about letting strangers share my home, I fail to see how AirBnB is any different than renting a home here in The Villages, wether its a short or long term rental. I know several people who own homes who never intend to live here. How is that not a "business"?

[retiredguy123]

Although I agree about letting strangers share my home, I fail to see how AirBnB is any different than renting a home here in The Villages, wether its a short or long term rental. I know several people who own homes who never intend to live here. How is that not a "business"?
There is a difference between a business and an investment. If you own a home and rent it out fulltime, the IRS will allow you to claim it as investment rental property, which gives you certain tax benefits, such as long term capital gain rates. They treat this as an investment, not a business. So, if the IRS would treat a BNB operation as a business, then it may be possible for The Villages to prohibit owners from operating BNBs here, but still allow investment property.

[photo1902]

There is a difference between a business and an investment. If you own a home and rent it out fulltime, the IRS will allow you to claim it as investment rental property, which gives you certain tax benefits, such as long term capital gain rates. They treat this as an investment, not a business. So, if the IRS would treat a BNB operation as a business, then it may be possible for The Villages to prohibit owners from operating BNBs here, but still allow investment property.

From the posts I've read here, most complaints about an Airbnb type setup are the resulting short term renters, not so much if there is a violation for running a business out of your home. Business or not, I see no difference in an Airbnb or one of the many rental companies here, the results of which result in short term renters.

[New Englander]

For me, the issue isn't about how you feel or how your guests feel, it'a about how you neighbors and community feels. We all know that you rent to make money and help cover your costs, not be an Ambassador for The Villages. There are houses that have been rented with multiple families, with spring breakers that have great parties until the wee hours, and young kids abound since Disney is only an hour away. If there wasn't something in it for the house owner there wouldn't be AirBnB.

:agree: 100%

[karostay]

Air B&B UN regulated and UN licensed by any health dept

[maureenod]

Air B&B UN regulated and UN licensed by any health dept

Neither are any of the rental houses.

[maureenod]

For me, the issue isn't about how you feel or how your guests feel, it'a about how you neighbors and community feels. We all know that you rent to make money and help cover your costs, not be an Ambassador for The Villages. There are houses that have been rented with multiple families, with spring breakers that have great parties until the wee hours, and young kids abound since Disney is only an hour away. If there wasn't something in it for the house owner there wouldn't be AirBnB.

Don't think spring breakers rent in a retirement community. :bigbow:

[JoMar]

Don't think spring breakers rent in a retirement community. :bigbow:

I thought the same thing but have a friend that had first hand experience with them in a Premium home with a swimming pool and there were 8 in the 4 bedroom house. Brought back memories for them.....as she said, ah, to be young again. Then reverted to senior citizen and complained about the parties...lol.

[GoPacers]

Short-term rentals of any kind is never a good thing for property values in a residential community/neighborhood. How many folks/friends/neighbors do you know that specifically moved into a neighborhood (The Villages or other) because there were a lot of short-term rentals and they were "happy" to live in that type of community???

[JoMar]

Don't think spring breakers rent in a retirement community. :bigbow:

I thought the same thing but have a friend that had first hand experience with them in a Premium home with a swimming pool and there were 8 in the 4 bedroom house. Brought back memories for them.....as she said, ah, to be young again. Then reverted to senior citizen status and complained about the parties...lol.

[photo1902]

I thought the same thing but have a friend that had first hand experience with them in a Premium home with a swimming pool and there were 8 in the 4 bedroom house. Brought back memories for them.....as she said, ah, to be young again. Then reverted to senior citizen status and complained about the parties...lol.

Its ok, people here complain about everything.

[Bay Kid]

Air B&Bs are like Uber, kind of.

[mulligan]

IMHO, anybody that rents property on anything less than a 1 year lease should have to purchase a rooming house license, install fire sprinklers, and be subject to inspections by the county. Also, every room where someone sleeps should have 2 exits. The county could adopt such an ordinance, and I believe they should.

[Mudder]

I agree with Ddinac, Airbnb is a wonderful experience. We have met some very nice interesting people. Airbnb requires lots of info from both parties. We have stayed in self contained tiny apts to sharing million dollar homes. All positive experiences. Really I think Airbnb is ok for The Villages. Airbnb travelers have to trust hosts and visa versa, it works, it just does?

[Chatbrat]

The windows in most of the houses in TV are considered egress windows, because of their low height-but IMHO short time rentals that are less than 30 days degrade a community

[tophcfa]

I agree with Ddinac, Airbnb is a wonderful experience. We have met some very nice interesting people. Airbnb requires lots of info from both parties. We have stayed in self contained tiny apts to sharing million dollar homes. All positive experiences. Really I think Airbnb is ok for The Villages. Airbnb travelers have to trust hosts and visa versa, it works, it just does?

I agree that Airbnb travelers and hosts need to trust each other. Many hosts/travelers are very kind and considerate, but there are also some that are not. The problem with Airbnb is that it forces the neighbors of the hosts to also have to trust the hosts and travelers. There is zero upside for the neighbors of the hosts, but lots of downside. Furthermore, the neighbors have no say in the matter, but their quality of living is directly effected by the other parties decisions and actions.

Before we bought our house, we read the deed restrictions very carefully and took comfort that we would be living in a neighborhood zoned single family residental and not as a business district. In my opinion, Airbnb hosts are not acting consistently with the intent of the deed restrictions.

[Chatbrat]

Right on--TV is a residential community, despite what others might think its not a resort

[New Englander]

I agree that Airbnb travelers and hosts need to trust each other. Many hosts/travelers are very kind and considerate, but there are also some that are not. The problem with Airbnb is that it forces the neighbors of the hosts to also have to trust the hosts and travelers. There is zero upside for the neighbors of the hosts, but lots of downside. Furthermore, the neighbors have no say in the matter, but their quality of living is directly effected by the other parties decisions and actions.

Before we bought our house, we read the deed restrictions very carefully and took comfort that we would be living in a neighborhood zoned single family residental and not as a business district. In my opinion, Airbnb hosts are not acting consistently with the intent of the deed restrictions.

Well said.

[rjn5656]

I have used them in Long Island and had very good experiences.

[retiredguy123]

Devil's advocate.

Is there a difference for the consumer between a few days through airbnb and the Villages Lifestyle visit for a few days? About the same piece ($99 a night) and includes a golf cart...

As a Landlord, I don't personally use Airbnb...

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I think there is a difference. The lifestyle rentals are confined to separate areas within The Villages, not scattered throughout the community. Same with the Waterfront Inn. An airbnb could be anywhere within the community.

[Marathon Man]

I think there is a difference. The lifestyle rentals are confined to separate areas within The Villages, not scattered throughout the community. Same with the Waterfront Inn. An airbnb could be anywhere within the community.

No difference to those that live near the lifestyle villas.

[Fredman]

Never used one and probably never will. I sure would not one in my neighborhood.

[Bay Kid]

I wouldn't want to own a home next to a hotel, so why would I want to live by a daily/weekly rental. Most people might be good, but it only takes 1 bad renter. The worry for the neighbor, not the landlord.

[golf2140]

We have one in the neighborhood, it sucks.

[tophcfa]

We have one in the neighborhood, it sucks.

Report it to community standards, they will send the homeowner a letter informing them of a complaint and stating that they are in violation of deed restrictions.

[Buckeyephan]

If the owners are not currently in The Villages, who cleans the property and changes linens between short-term renters? With such low rates being charged, it would eat up profits to pay a cleaning service.

[ColdNoMore]

I'm curious as to who/whom could legally be the arbiter, on the minimum length of time...a house could be rented?

If, let's say, a minimum of 30 days was instituted, wouldn't that adversely impact a selling point for The Developer who have no problem with people buying their houses for investment purposes...as long as they buy?

I can hear the howls if a regulation that no homes could be rented and they all have to be only owner occupied...were to be instituted.

Since so many homes can be rented for a month, or even a week...who should be given the authority to determine that less than a week is prohibited?

Who gets to make that determination?

Da Family?

Da homeowner?

Or maybe even Da neighbors?

And if that power were in the hand of the neighbors (or Da Family/homeowner for that matter), it's a steep & slippery slope...to regulating a lot of other criteria for renting or living here.

While it's obvious that controlling who lives here is an appealing prospect for certain people, I believe that is the antithesis of living in this great country...or being an American. :ohdear:

And one last thought, even if it's for a month at a time, how is that different from 'being a business'...than the one who does it nightly?


:popcorn:

[tophcfa]

If the owners are not currently in The Villages, who cleans the property and changes linens between short-term renters? With such low rates being charged, it would eat up profits to pay a cleaning service.

Most airbnb rentals are by homeowners living in their home and renting out space in their house to others, so both the owners and renters are co-habbitating if you will.

[perrjojo]

The original question was is AB&B good or bad. This is my take. It is good for the host. It is good for the renter. It is BAD for the neighborhood

[perrjojo]

An interesting article
Why You Shouldn’t Use Airbnb: 8 Troubling Issues You Didn’t Know • The Invisible Tourist (https://www.theinvisibletourist.com/why-you-shouldnt-use-airbnb-issues-you-didnt-know/)

[ColdNoMore]

The original question was is AB&B good or bad. This is my take. It is good for the host. It is good for the renter. It is BAD for the neighborhood

Can the same not be said for ANY home rentals, whether it's a day, week or even 6 months...if they are not hotels/motels?


It seems to me that the only difference between a regular B&B and an AirB&B...is breakfast. :D


So should regular B&B's...be outlawed also?

[tophcfa]

After speaking with one of the developers, who by the way was very nice, intelligent, articulate, and willing to speak with me for as long as necessary, here is what I learned regarding how the developer views the renting of homes and if this practice is allowed under the deed restrictions.

There are two deed restrictions that come into play when it comes to rentals, one is that Villages homes are restricted to being used as single-family residences, and the second is that homeowners are not allowed to operate a business out of their homes.

As far as rentals by homeowners who are NOT LIVING in their homes while they are being rented, weather they are part time residents, snowbirds, or investors, the developer does not see this as a violation of any deed restriction as long as they are renting to someone using the home as a single family residence. In other words, they can not rent to multiple parties at the same time. Since the homeowner is not living there while the home is being rented, they are not considered to be operating a business out of their house. This situation also applies to homeowners renting their entire house using the Airbnb platform, as long as the homeowner is not living in the home while it is being rented. Under this scenario, using the airbnb platform is no different than using a rental agency to find renters for the home.

On the other hand, Airbnb hosts who are LIVING IN THEIR HOMES and renting out space in their homes to others while they continue to live there are in clear violation of both deed restrictions. First, the residence is not being used as a single family residence when both the owners and renters are sharing space under the same roof. And second, if a homeowner is living in their home and renting out space in their home to third party renter's (which they have to report income on to the appropriate taxing authorities) then they are clearly running a business out of their home.

The developer made it clear to me that their job is not to police the approximately 150,000 (and growing rapidly) homes in the Villages and insure that each one is in compliance with all deed restrictions. The policemen of the Villages are the residents, who can submit violations of deed restrictions to community standards. Each and every complaint is taken seriously and looked into. So Airbnb hosts that are living in their homes and renting to third parties are clearly in violation of deed restrictions, but the violation will only be addressed one home at a time each time a complaint is received on an individual residence.

The way I view it is that if an Airbnb host is running a very good business, carefully screening potential renters, and keeping the renters totally in line so that the business does not disrupt the neighborhood, no one is likely to complain and it will be business as usual. On the other hand, the Airbnb operations that become disruptive to the neighborhood will most likely get reported to community standards and hopefully their disruptive business will discontinue operating.

Regardless of how good or bad an operation each and every Villages Airbnb host runs, who is renting space in their home while living in the home, you are in violation of two deed restrictions and have to live with that.

Hope this helps clarify things regarding Airbnb and deed compliance.

[4557Spahr]

Just wondering what others think? We have a couple of neighbors on our road in Villages that rent their home on a nightly basis. We are really not on board with this as an appropriate home business that should be happening in our residential community. A revolving turnstyle of non-residents who show little respect for our neighborhood certainly does not enhance the Villages lifestyle.
It’s the current trends to rent places short term. People usually pay a good amount as tenants. Please treat them like you would your neighbors or as you’d want to be treated. They may even be renting to see if they like your neighborhood.

[4557Spahr]

This article is all wet. We are hosts and travelers. Air bnb does not stand for bait & switch or shady rentals. Those are the facts.

[tophcfa]

This article is all wet. We are hosts and travelers. Air bnb does not stand for bait & switch or shady rentals. Those are the facts.

Sorry but not true, the real fact is that there are good hosts and travelers and bad ones. Your experience has been with the good ones, but trust me, the bad ones exist also. If you want proof, PM me with your phone number and I will call you next time our neighbor has some bad travelers staying at their house and you can stop by and see for yourself.

[the square]

I agree with you 100%..this is my community not a getaway destination. If people want to rent rooms by the night go to Disney World. No one is happy with transients coming and going all the time.

[New Englander]

The original question was is AB&B good or bad. This is my take. It is good for the host. It is good for the renter. It is BAD for the neighborhood

:agree:

[Chatbrat]

Since it is now very clear that its against community standards for a resident to rent rooms in a residence that they occupy, should be very easy for , community standards to go thru adds for Airbnb, and find out who is in violation, just look ad any add that says "private room"

[Villageswimmer]

Since it is now very clear that its against community standards for a resident to rent rooms in a residence that they occupy, should be very easy for , community standards to go thru adds for Airbnb, and find out who is in violation, just look ad any add that says "private room"


True but I don’t think Community Standards is in the business of investigating. As mentioned, the neighbors are the “policemen.”

OAN I can’t help but wonder how homeowners insurance companies react when they find out my home is being rented out on a daily basis. The homeowner would need to notify the insurance company to protect themselves from liability.

[retiredguy123]

Since it is now very clear that its against community standards for a resident to rent rooms in a residence that they occupy, should be very easy for , community standards to go thru adds for Airbnb, and find out who is in violation, just look ad any add that says "private room"
Apparently, there are 114 private rooms available for rent in The Villages on airbnb next week.

[perrjojo]

Apparently, there are 114 private rooms available for rent in The Villages on airbnb next week.

Wow! That is a lot.

[Chatbrat]

Gotta be very gutsy or desperate for $$, to have a total stranger sharing your house for $$--big risk--easiest home invasion ever--1 person makes a reservation--& a buddy comes to your house--the person who made the reservation , says he didn't feel like going to TV

[perrjojo]

The Villages Hometown Getaway - Houses for Rent in The Villages, Florida, United States (https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/21205448?location=The%20Villages%2C%20FL%2C%20Unit ed%20States&adults=2&children=0&guests=2&infants=0&toddlers=0&check_in=2018-09-08&check_out=2018-09-12&s=f0FEEIOZ)
Here is one example

[HandyGrandpap]

The Villages Hometown Getaway - Houses for Rent in The Villages, Florida, United States (https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/21205448?location=The%20Villages%2C%20FL%2C%20Unit ed%20States&adults=2&children=0&guests=2&infants=0&toddlers=0&check_in=2018-09-08&check_out=2018-09-12&s=f0FEEIOZ)
Here is one example

Thanks for the link, very interesting as one rents a room in the home with the owners. This a bed and breakfast Abnb!!!!

[manaboutown]

The Villages Hometown Getaway - Houses for Rent in The Villages, Florida, United States (https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/21205448?location=The%20Villages%2C%20FL%2C%20Unit ed%20States&adults=2&children=0&guests=2&infants=0&toddlers=0&check_in=2018-09-08&check_out=2018-09-12&s=f0FEEIOZ)
Here is one example

I would have to be seriously hard up for cash to do this, take the risk, do the work and put up with the lack of privacy for $70 a night.

They are offering the inducement of access to the amenities...Now that probably infringes upon use of the amenities by legitimate residents by increasing the number of people using them. Too, other residents are financially supplementing this business through their amenity fees.

I wonder if they are paying all of the various taxes due on this business endeavor, if their insurance company knows they are housing business invitees in their home. Also home owner mortgages typically require owner occupancy. If one rents the mortgage rates are higher so the lender might want to know about this if there is a mortgage on the premises.

[queasy27]

It seems like the crux of many of the complaints is not Airbnb itself but short term rentals in general. Which is old news here.

Airbnb hosts who are LIVING IN THEIR HOMES and renting out space in their homes to others while they continue to live there are in clear violation of both deed restrictions. First, the residence is not being used as a single family residence when both the owners and renters are sharing space under the same roof. And second, if a homeowner is living in their home and renting out space in their home to third party renter's (which they have to report income on to the appropriate taxing authorities) then they are clearly running a business out of their home.

Thanks for the explanation. It sounds like that would effectively prohibit people from having roommates, too.

[spring_chicken]

It seems like the crux of many of the complaints is not Airbnb itself but short term rentals in general. Which is old news here.



Thanks for the explanation. It sounds like that would effectively prohibit people from having roommates, too.

Old news and something that will never be stopped.
Not all airbnb renters stay in the home with the renters.
Homes, rooms, and golf carts will ALWAYS be rented out here by homeowners. Nothing anybody on the board can do about it, but it won't stop 8+ pages of griping and worrying in a couple of threads a year.

[Schaumburger]

Is The Villages Hometown Property Management owned by the developer? Check-in for these rentals is at The Villages sales office in Lake Sumter Landing if that is any indication of ownership. What looks like the official Villages logo appears on the website.

The home page features "Patio Villas starting at $400/week" "Courtyards and Cottages (Ranch) starting at $500/week." "Vacation like a millionaire."

Just for curiosity, I went on the HPM web site, typed in furnished rentals for 11/1/2018 to 11/8/2018, and 82 rentals are listed as available located all over The Villages.

So if HPM is owned by the developer, then the developer is also profiting from the short term rental market in The Villages. That is probably not new news to most of you.

[tophcfa]

Is The Villages Hometown Property Management owned by the developer? Check-in for these rentals is at The Villages sales office in Lake Sumter Landing if that is any indication of ownership. What looks like the official Villages logo appears on the website.

The home page features "Patio Villas starting at $400/week" "Courtyards and Cottages (Ranch) starting at $500/week." "Vacation like a millionaire."

Just for curiosity, I went on the HPM web site, typed in furnished rentals for 11/1/2018 to 11/8/2018, and 82 rentals are listed as available located all over The Villages.

So if HPM is owned by the developer, then the developer is also profiting from the short term rental market in The Villages. That is probably not new news to most of you.

I am not sure who owns HPM, regardless, there is no deed restriction on short term rentals, just on rentals of any length to people who are sharing space in the home with the homeowner.

[Love2Swim]

Is The Villages Hometown Property Management owned by the developer? Check-in for these rentals is at The Villages sales office in Lake Sumter Landing if that is any indication of ownership. What looks like the official Villages logo appears on the website.

The home page features "Patio Villas starting at $400/week" "Courtyards and Cottages (Ranch) starting at $500/week." "Vacation like a millionaire."

Just for curiosity, I went on the HPM web site, typed in furnished rentals for 11/1/2018 to 11/8/2018, and 82 rentals are listed as available located all over The Villages.

So if HPM is owned by the developer, then the developer is also profiting from the short term rental market in The Villages. That is probably not new news to most of you.

There is very little in The Villages that the developer doesn't profit from. They either own, or have a stake in many, many business in TV. If the developer can profit from short term rentals, why shouldn't the residents?

[Bay Kid]

I still feel sorry for the neighbors.