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CWGUY
09-04-2018, 01:42 PM
:boom:Would someone please let me know when Hell freezes over..... there is a Nike product I would like to buy!:ohdear:

VillageIdiots
09-04-2018, 01:50 PM
:popcorn:

I own very little swoosh marked products anymore. That won't be changing anytime soon.

CWGUY
09-04-2018, 01:57 PM
:popcorn:

I own very little swoosh marked products anymore. That won't be changing anytime soon.

:coolsmiley:

manaboutown
09-04-2018, 02:13 PM
I just got rid of my old Nike shoes and gym shorts. I will never wear anything with their logo (now V for vile) on it again!

Kahuna32162
09-04-2018, 03:21 PM
Freedom of speech is alive. You may not agree with his message, but you have to respect his right to express it.

Fredman
09-04-2018, 03:50 PM
I agree with the boycott and won’t be buying any Nike merchandise. He has a right to express his opinion and I will do it with my wallet

ColdNoMore
09-04-2018, 03:52 PM
Good for Nike! :thumbup:


It's not easy in this day and age...to take a moral stand.

billethkid
09-04-2018, 04:17 PM
Good for Nike! :thumbup:


It's not easy in this day and age...to take a moral stand.

:1rotfl::1rotfl:

Tis truly what ever is held in the eye of the beholder....

retiredguy123
09-04-2018, 04:25 PM
Just checked my closet. I hope Lands End doesn't hire Kaepernick. I'll have to walk around naked.

Fredman
09-04-2018, 04:28 PM
I guess wearing socks depicting police as pigs is ok also

JGVillages
09-04-2018, 04:29 PM
Freedom of speech is alive. You may not agree with his message, but you have to respect his right to express it.

He can express it all he wants to on his front porch or by calling a press conference, but do not do it where I “PAY” to watch a specific event, such as football or any other entertainment venue. Now I cannot watch the National Anthem on TV before football games because it offends a very small quantity of NFL players. Freedom of speech is not a workplace right. Freedom to boycott business, entertainers, athletes or anyone that do not comprehend that, is everyone’s right. I guess Nike’s 3% stock drop (4.2 billion) today confirms that. Sales decline and more stock price issues to follow. My FREEDOM OF SPEECH STATEMENT: JUST DO IT DONE WITH NIKE.

CWGUY
09-04-2018, 04:33 PM
Good for Nike! :thumbup:


It's not easy in this day and age...to take a moral stand.

:oops: Check their stock price......

ColdNoMore
09-04-2018, 04:40 PM
Instead of throwing away your Nike stuff, how about donating it... to some veterans?


Veterans defend Colin Kaepernick - Business Insider (https://www.businessinsider.com/veterans-colin-kaepernick-2016-9)


My grandpa is a 97 year-old WWII vet & Missouri farmer who wanted to join w/ those who #TakeaKnee: "those kids have every right to protest."

JGVillages
09-04-2018, 04:43 PM
Good for Nike! :thumbup:


It's not easy in this day and age...to take a moral stand.

Nike’s moral stand just cost their investors 4.2 Billion, with a “B” today. They forced their moral values on unsuspecting stockholders. But that’s Nike’s platform: “Just Do It”

debow
09-04-2018, 05:13 PM
I don’t watch NFL anymore and I will no longer buy or wear a Nike product. I guess protests work.

fw102807
09-04-2018, 05:41 PM
Money talks and mine just said goodbye to Nike.

Barefoot
09-04-2018, 05:57 PM
Would someone please let me know when Hell freezes over..... there is a Nike product I would like to buy!:ohdear::evil6:

manaboutown
09-04-2018, 06:00 PM
Good for Nike! :thumbup:


It's not easy in this day and age...to take a moral stand.

or an immoral stand as in the instant case under discussion!

manaboutown
09-04-2018, 06:01 PM
Instead of throwing away your Nike stuff, how about donating it... to some veterans?


Veterans defend Colin Kaepernick - Business Insider (https://www.businessinsider.com/veterans-colin-kaepernick-2016-9)

At this point I doubt any truly patriotic veteran would want to wear the nike logo.

Barefoot
09-04-2018, 06:04 PM
Some people are burning their Nike purchases in protest. I think it was a very carefully thought-out marketing strategy.
Burning Nike gear costs Nike nothing, and it gives them free advertising.
Coldnomore thinks they've claimed the moral high ground. So far, he seems to be in a minority.

Taltarzac725
09-04-2018, 06:20 PM
Some people are burning their Nike purchases in protest. I think it was a very carefully thought-out marketing strategy.
Burning Nike gear costs Nike nothing, and it gives them free advertising.
Coldnomore thinks they've claimed the moral high ground. So far, he seems to be in a minority.

Good for Nike. They are taking the long and high road while marketing to the diverse and quite a bit more open to different viewpoints of people 35 and under market.

dewilson58
09-04-2018, 06:22 PM
No need to comment on ToTV.

Communicate with your purchasing dollars.

John_W
09-04-2018, 06:25 PM
I gonna have to break out my old gear.

https://scontent-mia3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/11425420_548874415253246_900224034254479435_n.jpg? _nc_cat=0&oh=97d92dc31741194d78de89fe9819f6f6&oe=5C337B96

retiredguy123
09-04-2018, 06:31 PM
I wish I knew what the protest was about and what would make the kneelers happy. Maybe I could care.

stan the man
09-04-2018, 06:35 PM
I will use all my Nike golf balls for hitting off the black tees on Palmers (Reilly)second hole

valuemkt
09-04-2018, 06:45 PM
Had a really nice looking white cap that I wont be wearing anymore ..

ColdNoMore
09-04-2018, 06:48 PM
Some people are burning their Nike purchases in protest. I think it was a very carefully thought-out marketing strategy.
Burning Nike gear costs Nike nothing, and it gives them free advertising.
Coldnomore thinks they've claimed the moral high ground.
So far, he seems to be in a minority.

Given that we live here in TV...no big surprise there. :D

Then again, I've never been one of those that just went along with a crowd...when it comes to my integrity and ethics.

Let's not forget (and I'm certainly not comparing myself to such a wonderful and admirable icon)...that Rosa Parks was also in the minority.

A good time for one of my favorite sayings....

The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.

Edmund Burke


:ho:

stan the man
09-04-2018, 06:48 PM
Does tiger still use nike

JGVillages
09-04-2018, 06:52 PM
Good for Nike. They are taking the long and high road while marketing to the diverse and quite a bit more open to different viewpoints of people 35 and under market.

At the expense of their stockholders. Hang on to yours and enjoy the ride.

Taltarzac725
09-04-2018, 06:56 PM
At the expense of their stockholders. Hang on to yours and enjoy the ride.

Nike makes Kaepernick the face of '''Just Do It''' campaign (https://finance.yahoo.com/news/nikes-colin-kaepernick-campaign-reward-risk-131301863.html)

Actually they look like a good investment. For the long haul that is.

Nucky
09-04-2018, 07:18 PM
Nike Sucks. That's a fact!

Fredman
09-04-2018, 07:32 PM
Taking a knee isn’t going to stop racial inequality or create an awareness. The only thing that it has accomplished is to p*** off a lot of people. They can say that they are not disrespecting the flag or our servicemen but in fact that is exactly what they are doing. Anyone who supports kneeling is doing the same thing.

thomp679
09-04-2018, 07:42 PM
Nike’s moral stand just cost their investors 4.2 Billion, with a “B” today. They forced their moral values on unsuspecting stockholders. But that’s Nike’s platform: “Just Do It”

Do you all really think Nike really cares about 'your' dollars or if you ever use their products? Seniors are not their target market; not even close. And if 'one' understood the stock market, Nike didn't lose their investors any money. The only 'losses' incurred are by investors ignorant enough to sell their holdings.

The real concern should not be Nike's marketing campaign, but why in this great country so many people feel that the oppressions faced by minorities should be ignored.

:duck:

thomp679
09-04-2018, 07:52 PM
They can say that they are not disrespecting the flag or our servicemen but in fact that is exactly what they are doing. Anyone who supports kneeling is doing the same thing.

Why is the 'disrepect' always so one-sided and angry? What about the disrespect placed upon the minorities of this country. And because I support them, why I am thrown into this 'disrespect' category.

ColdNoMore
09-04-2018, 08:42 PM
Do you all really think Nike really cares about 'your' dollars or if you ever use their products? Seniors are not their target market; not even close. And if 'one' understood the stock market, Nike didn't lose their investors any money. The only 'losses' incurred are by investors ignorant enough to sell their holdings.

The real concern should not be Nike's marketing campaign, but why in this great country so many people feel that the oppressions faced by minorities should be ignored.

Yep...you've hit on the crux of the issue. :thumbup:

It's a whole lot easier to try and change the narrative to one of faux patriotism...than to acknowledge the REAL reason for the protest(s).

And one only has to listen to the dog whistles of denigration when it comes to how some refer to the players themselves...to know what that real issue is. :ohdear:

Many studies have shown that younger generations are a lot less racist, bigoted & xenophobic than some older generation folks...and some people are just plain angry & scared about that. :shrug:

Sometimes, a picture really is worth...a thousand words.

FACT CHECK: Did a Football Fan Sit on an American Flag While Wearing a Shirt Reading 'I Stand for the National Anthem'? (https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/football-fan-flag-stand-national-anthem/)

A pro football fan sat on the United States flag while wearing a shirt that read: "I stand for the national anthem."

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--1isIF02Y--/c_scale,f_auto,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/zzypmujoegofwxs2rukr.jpg

Hypocrisy and Facts Matter. :ho:

Fredman
09-04-2018, 08:46 PM
Why is the 'disrepect' always so one-sided and angry? What about the disrespect placed upon the minorities of this country. And because I support them, why I am thrown into this 'disrespect' category.

Disrespect is one sided and angry because it is a negative word. I don’t believe all minority’s are disrespected and I don’t believe race should be a part of this discussion. This discussion should be about how you feel about a few ball players and Nike disrespecting the flag and servicemen.

Fraugoofy
09-04-2018, 09:01 PM
Thinking NFL players are disrespecting the flag is like thinking Rosa Parks was protesting public transportation...

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Fredman
09-04-2018, 09:05 PM
[QUOTE=Fraugoofy;1578336]Thinking NFL players are disrespecting the flag is like thinking Rosa Parks was protesting public transportation...

Sent from my SM

She wasn’t disrespecting anything she was rightfully protesting against blacks being forced to sit in the back of the bus. So in effect she was protesting public transportation.

DimondAngels
09-04-2018, 09:05 PM
My wife and I are also planning on boycotting Nike. They made a very bad business decision!!!

retiredguy123
09-04-2018, 09:08 PM
I thought Rosa Parks was protesting public transportation. She wanted to ride in the front of the bus. But, I cannot figure out what the kneelers want.

ColdNoMore
09-04-2018, 09:09 PM
Thinking NFL players are disrespecting the flag is like thinking Rosa Parks was protesting public transportation...


Exactly! :boom:

mtdjed
09-04-2018, 09:11 PM
Does Nike make the performance walkers with Velcro closure? What will we wear if we boycott?

tomwed
09-04-2018, 09:16 PM
Does Nike make the performance walkers with Velcro closure? What will we wear if we boycott?Laces. Just do it. And don't forget to double knot so you don't trip.

Fraugoofy
09-04-2018, 10:00 PM
Rosa Parks was protesting segregation in the South, you know, where people were treated differently because of the color of their skin? And by her small, silent protest, she began to help others see that color should not matter. She is considered "the mother of the Civil Rights Movement." Racism still exists today. The kneelers want to make people aware of the continued Racism in America. Dr. Martin Luther King also knelt...
This Photo of MLK Kneeling Has New Power Amid the NFL Protests. Here’s the Story Behind It (https://amp-timeinc-net.cdn.ampproject.org/v/amp.timeinc.net/time/4955717/trump-protests-mlk-martin-luther-king-kneeling?amp_js_v=a2&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQCCAE%3D#referrer=https://www.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s)I thought Rosa Parks was protesting public transportation. She wanted to ride in the front of the bus. But, I cannot figure out what the kneelers want.

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mtdjed
09-04-2018, 10:53 PM
Catch Nike stock on the downside. This too will pass, and you may as well benefit with a few capital gains. This may be insider info, so be cautious.

Erika
09-04-2018, 11:00 PM
Disrespect is one sided and angry because it is a negative word. I don’t believe all minority’s are disrespected and I don’t believe race should be a part of this discussion. This discussion should be about how you feel about a few ball players and Nike disrespecting the flag and servicemen.

How can race not be part of the discussion when the issue of racism is the very reason for the protests?

Furthermore, many veterans say that they enlisted in the armed services in order to help protect and defend the Constitutional right of Americans to their freedom of expression, whether or not they agree with the protest.

If you or I don't care for the kneeling, we don't have to watch it, nor do we have to buy Nike products. By the same token, individuals who recognize and/or sympathize with the reason for the protests, should not be vilified or condemned as anti-American. If you believe that only one point of view should be espoused as in totalitarian regimes, it can be argued that your views are unpatriotic, and anti-American.

Polar Bear
09-04-2018, 11:31 PM
...The real concern should not be Nike's marketing campaign, but why in this great country so many people feel that the oppressions faced by minorities should be ignored...
Not liking NFL players taking a knee during the national anthem in no way means a person thinks oppression of any sort should be ignored.

Debfrommaine
09-05-2018, 04:35 AM
Laces. Just do it. And don't forget to double knot so you don't trip.
:1rotfl::1rotfl:

rjn5656
09-05-2018, 05:40 AM
Nike, they lost this consumer. There are a lot of competitors of theirs I will buy from now.

jeriteri
09-05-2018, 06:02 AM
A very big part of Nike is kids shoes and clothes. Parents need to bite the bullet and "explain" to their kids that even tho their peers may have Nike our family will never buy Nike products again. There are going to be Nike clad classmates "from the other side" who have been "explained" that taking a knee is a good thing. Morals and Dedication has deteriorated in our Beautiful Country.
#NIKE SUFFERS

graciegirl
09-05-2018, 07:04 AM
It is so complicated. This whole thing. When a protest uses a much loved symbol and practice, many people are upset and confused.

Colin Kaepernick protested against the symbol of the United States, the flag and the anthem, because he believes that there are many arrests made by law enforcement officers that are unfair and racist. It was directed against what he and many believe to be widespread and wrong. He and many NFL players protested by doing an opposite action, (kneeling instead of standing) because they feel that many are profiled and killed by law enforcement officers across this land just because they are black.

Their anger and sadness are understandable, and this country is one that it is safe to protest and speak out.
If a person wanted change, this certainly could and did draw attention to the problem. However it also angered and upset people who were raised to be very patriotic and who were raised to respect the flag.

The other side felt the kneelers actions were inappropriate and offensive, even though many would agree with their sense of injustice. It also was hurtful to all of the law enforcement officers in this country who are fair and not racially biased and who behave fairly every day.

I think there is a time and a place for everything, but it seems all of those rules on how people should act in a socially acceptable way are being overthrown and challenged. I feel very uncomfortable about it. I am very glad that Rosa Parks rode that bus instead of involving the flag and the anthem.

In my opinion protesting is a right and a privilege and shouldn't break laws or disrespect the flag or the anthem.

redwitch
09-05-2018, 07:19 AM
I applaud Nike’s decision. Yes, it is a marketing ploy and a highly effective one. Methinks a lot more urban youths will be wearing Nike than ever before. But it is also a very telling message. Kaepernick really did lose his career for kneeling. To an athlete to not be able to play during the height of their ability is akin to a long, slow death. He felt he needed to get a message out. He could have simply made a statement that he did not mean to disrespect the anthem, the flag and our nation, and would not kneel again, and all would have been forgiven. He didn’t.

I know that both my father (a career officer who worked his way up the ranks and served in both WWII and Korea) and my brother (three tours in Nam because he felt his knowledge could save lives) would defend the right to kneel even if they might have disagreed with the message. I was taught that protest was far more American than apple pie, harkening back to the Boston Tea Party. I learned that loud, public protests could help end a war. I saw that quiet, peaceful marches and speeches and actions could bring about needed changes. I discovered that actions by celebrities can make a difference.

I’m not surprised by the vitriol spewed here but I am saddened by it. To say that someone is unAmerican or loves America less than you because they want to bring an injustice to the forefront is just wrong. I thought we had learned something from the old “America, love it or leave it,” but, apparently, I was wrong.

You don’t have to like the way someone protests but do try to understand the reason behind the protest, respect their right to protest, accept that they are Americans.

retiredguy123
09-05-2018, 07:20 AM
I don't think I have ever bought any product based on who advertises it. Does Kaepernick know anything about shoes?

redwitch
09-05-2018, 07:22 AM
Gracie, well said. Thank you.