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Fraugoofy
09-18-2018, 10:36 AM
A woman in a bathing suit walks into Carrabba's... sounds like a joke right?

Nope. She walked into Carrabba's and then was arrested a short time later near the bar inside.

"An officer went into the restaurant and found 46-year-old Meridith Manning, who lives at 102 Costa Mesa Drive in the Village of La Zamora, leaning against the wall between the hostess area and the bar. Her eyes were watery and bloodshot and she had “the distinct odor of an alcoholic beverage emanating” from her, the report said."

Wonder if she were wearing a bikini if they would have let her in? I mean what kind of dress code do they have exactly?

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Madelaine Amee
09-18-2018, 10:59 AM
A woman in a bathing suit walks into Carrabba's... sounds like a joke right?

Nope. She walked into Carrabba's and then was arrested a short time later near the bar inside.

"An officer went into the restaurant and found 46-year-old Meridith Manning, who lives at 102 Costa Mesa Drive in the Village of La Zamora, leaning against the wall between the hostess area and the bar. Her eyes were watery and bloodshot and she had “the distinct odor of an alcoholic beverage emanating” from her, the report said."

Wonder if she were wearing a bikini if they would have let her in? I mean what kind of dress code do they have exactly?

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That story is so sad. What in the world would have brought someone of that age to the depths - obviously alcohol may have a lot to do with it, but also having nothing or nobody who cares enough to help.

When I think back to how I was living and looking at that age .............. I had a corporate level job, a loving husband, a couple of kids who could be a pain, a nice home and a wonderful dog. I had it all. I would be interested to know what her life story may be.

dewilson58
09-18-2018, 11:10 AM
I thought it was sad they wrote the sad story.

CWGUY
09-18-2018, 11:13 AM
A woman in a bathing suit walks into Carrabba's... sounds like a joke right?

Nope. She walked into Carrabba's and then was arrested a short time later near the bar inside.

"An officer went into the restaurant and found 46-year-old Meridith Manning, who lives at 102 Costa Mesa Drive in the Village of La Zamora, leaning against the wall between the hostess area and the bar. Her eyes were watery and bloodshot and she had “the distinct odor of an alcoholic beverage emanating” from her, the report said."

Wonder if she were wearing a bikini if they would have let her in? I mean what kind of dress code do they have exactly?

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:ohdear: Not my first thought.

That story is so sad. What in the world would have brought someone of that age to the depths - obviously alcohol may have a lot to do with it, but also having nothing or nobody who cares enough to help.

Good question..... let's hope she get the help she may need.

My Post
09-18-2018, 11:14 AM
Yes hopefully she can get help now. Way too young to look like that.

B-flat
09-18-2018, 11:18 AM
HELP is available, l hope this was her bottom and she seeks treatment.

Bjeanj
09-18-2018, 12:59 PM
That story is so sad. What in the world would have brought someone of that age to the depths - obviously alcohol may have a lot to do with it, but also having nothing or nobody who cares enough to help..

I agree. Before moving here, I had never seen so many (or paid attention to) stories about elderly/alcoholic/drug addicted people. I think seeing these stories has made me more aware of and empathetic with many of these situations where there is no one to help them.

manaboutown
09-18-2018, 01:01 PM
She's "only" 46 years of age. Could she be living in TV with her parents?

graciegirl
09-18-2018, 01:03 PM
I thought it was sad they wrote the sad story.

I did too. She left her car running and they found oxycodone in the car. I don't know what the answer is. Who is paying for the gas to run the car and for her day to day expenses? I wonder if she can work having this difficulty?

manaboutown
09-18-2018, 01:09 PM
I did too. She left her car running and they found oxycodone in the car. I don't know what the answer is. Who is paying for the gas to run the car and for her day to day expenses? I wonder if she can work having this difficulty?

Inevitably more shall be revealed - and I am not addressing her (hopefully modest) bathing suit coverage or lack thereof.

Alcoholics and drug dependent people usually need to "bottom out" before they can recover via AA, NA or treatment facilities. This does not relate to their choice of attire.

tuttysal1
09-18-2018, 01:51 PM
So KIND of you to post her address!!!

manaboutown
09-18-2018, 02:33 PM
Her address was published in the news article and is public knowledge as are the addresses of those arrestees who have them.

Jima64
09-18-2018, 02:41 PM
A woman in a bathing suit walks into Carrabba's... sounds like a joke right?

Nope. She walked into Carrabba's and then was arrested a short time later near the bar inside.

"An officer went into the restaurant and found 46-year-old Meridith Manning, who lives at 102 Costa Mesa Drive in the Village of La Zamora, leaning against the wall between the hostess area and the bar. Her eyes were watery and bloodshot and she had “the distinct odor of an alcoholic beverage emanating” from her, the report said."

Wonder if she were wearing a bikini if they would have let her in? I mean what kind of dress code do they have exactly?

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I've seen worse full length yoga outfits on very plus size ladies at walmart and wondered why they dress that way. Feel sorry about the substance abuse problem if alcohol and drugs, deadly combination.

claricecolin
09-18-2018, 03:32 PM
I agree. Before moving here, I had never seen so many (or paid attention to) stories about elderly/alcoholic/drug addicted people. I think seeing these stories has made me more aware of and empathetic with many of these situations where there is no one to help them.

Just remember they have to hit their bottom and want help. This has been the hardest part of dealing with my Dad. Accepting that only when he wants help them it can work. I can't do it for him or make him stop. His alcohol in has led to dementia so now assisted living.

Bottom line there may be help but if she won't take it there is nothing to be done.

Gpsma
09-18-2018, 04:01 PM
Im so sick of hearing about these drug-addled or alcohic children being enabled by their parents.

eweissenbach
09-18-2018, 08:12 PM
Im so sick of hearing about these drug-addled or alcohic children being enabled by their parents.

And you know all this...... how?

manaboutown
09-18-2018, 08:13 PM
Im so sick of hearing about these drug-addled or alcohic children being enabled by their parents.

Me too!

B-flat
09-18-2018, 08:25 PM
And you know all this...... how?

If you’ve had experience in the recovery field you’d know the signs are unmistakable.

Denial is not a river in Egypt.

CFrance
09-19-2018, 01:25 AM
If you’ve had experience in the recovery field you’d know the signs are unmistakable.

Denial is not a river in Egypt.
What, the signs that her parents are enabling her?


I think the signs of drug addiction and alcoholism are unmistakable, but not the assumption that her parents are enabling her.

B-flat
09-19-2018, 05:29 AM
What, the signs that her parents are enabling her?


I think the signs of drug addiction and alcoholism are unmistakable, but not the assumption that her parents are enabling her.

Signs? Parents bringing adult children back under their roofs many times are the result but not always as sign that they adult kids are not making it on their own. When the arrests start there’s a sure sign parents have enabled their kids and probably have posted bail. I’ve seen this happen with my late in-laws and late brother in law. He just couldn’t do it on his own and passed at age 53.

CFrance
09-19-2018, 05:43 AM
There is still no proof or "sign" in this story that her parents are enabling her. What sign did she give about that? I am responding to your response to eweissenbach, who was responding to gpsma, who was assuming that her parents were enabling her.

B-flat
09-19-2018, 05:48 AM
There is still no proof or "sign" in this story that her parents are enabling her. What sign did she give about that? I am responding to your response to eweissenbach, who was responding to gpsma, who was assuming that her parents were enabling her.

No proof but as I wrote in my last post I’ve seen this in a family situation of my own. Ya gotta read between the lines.

jeriteri
09-19-2018, 05:50 AM
It is a shame that people, especially in our age group, or others I guess, can't drink responsibly. I have on occasion went overboard, which Is bad, but some of these people just don't give a damn. I guess I really can't explain the feeling they are looking for when they overindulge. It has to be something that alters their state of mind so that they can live with whatever they are living with. Maybe there is someone here that can really explain what possesses them to drink, what feeling they get to make them drink and then what feeling they get to make the overindulge. Anybody?

Debfrommaine
09-19-2018, 06:24 AM
I agree. Before moving here, I had never seen so many (or paid attention to) stories about elderly/alcoholic/drug addicted people. I think seeing these stories has made me more aware of and empathetic with many of these situations where there is no one to help them.

I read the newspaper from "back home"...….it's everywhere, so many stories.

CFrance
09-19-2018, 06:30 AM
No proof but as I wrote in my last post I’ve seen this in a family situation of my own. Ya gotta read between the lines.
Just don't think it's right to put a common tag on every addict's parents. What if she's mentally ill or has a learning disability or some other disabling factor? Not every "child" can be tossed out on the street to find his/her own help.

kcrazorbackfan
09-19-2018, 07:01 AM
You know, each person throughout their lives has choices to make on how their life turns out.

The thousands of people I arrested in my career had that choice to do either what they did wrong to come in contact with me or make the right choice and not commit a crime.

The people that do bad things in life that we read about on the*******news.com, here on TOTV, see on television - they had that choice.

I do not believe all the BS about “mental disorders” or “mental disease”; I think it’s conveniently used far too often to not take responsibility for the actions they committed.

graciegirl
09-19-2018, 07:15 AM
You know, each person throughout their lives has choices to make on how their life turns out.

The thousands of people I arrested in my career had that choice to do either what they did wrong to come in contact with me or make the right choice and not commit a crime.

The people that do bad things in life that we read about on the*******news.com, here on TOTV, see on television - they had that choice.

I do not believe all the BS about “mental disorders” or “mental disease”; I think it’s conveniently used far too often to not take responsibility for the actions they committed.

I think the addictive tendency may be at least partially inherited. Several people I know have decided to not drink because of the behavior of their ancestors. However, I also think that the majority of people can and do drink responsibly for their whole lives. We never know what kind of depression and sadness some people are facing. A drop in serotonin is also a common thing as we age, causing several conditions like depression and obsessive behaviors and anxiety.

fw102807
09-19-2018, 07:19 AM
It's very unfair to judge someone you know nothing about and don't know what they have been through to bring them to this point. I am really tired of all the self righteousness by people who's lives could have turned out very differently under different circumstances.

Polar Bear
09-19-2018, 07:37 AM
... I am really tired of all the self righteousness by people who's lives could have turned out very differently under different circumstances.
Boy, you said it, fw.

Madelaine Amee
09-19-2018, 07:41 AM
It's very unfair to judge someone you know nothing about and don't know what they have been through to bring them to this point. I am really tired of all the self righteousness by people who's lives could have turned out very differently under different circumstances.

Agree! Until you have walked a mile in their shoes...... best to keep quiet.

graciegirl
09-19-2018, 07:47 AM
Agree! Until you have walked a mile in their shoes...... best to keep quiet.

However...…..we all do sort of decide how we feel. Even if we remain silent. She embarrassed herself and there were opioids in her car. Grateful she was stopped before she drove the car into someone. Even grateful that the other news publishes mugshots. I think it might deter some of the behavior that is dangerous not only to the person but to others.

Madelaine Amee
09-19-2018, 08:38 AM
However...…..we all do sort of decide how we feel. Even if we remain silent. She embarrassed herself and there were opioids in her car. Grateful she was stopped before she drove the car into someone. Even grateful that the other news publishes mugshots. I think it might deter some of the behavior that is dangerous not only to the person but to others.

So now you pile on to let us know that there were opiods in her car etc. etc.

GG it's all gossip .............. and we are all really good at gossip.

blueeagle65
09-19-2018, 09:01 AM
Check out her mug shot on the other site. Shudder....

Chi-Town
09-19-2018, 09:30 AM
You know, each person throughout their lives has choices to make on how their life turns out.

The thousands of people I arrested in my career had that choice to do either what they did wrong to come in contact with me or make the right choice and not commit a crime.

The people that do bad things in life that we read about on the*******news.com, here on TOTV, see on television - they had that choice.

I do not believe all the BS about “mental disorders” or “mental disease”; I think it’s conveniently used far too often to not take responsibility for the actions they committed.When you arrested someone did you have to appear in court for the charge?

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New Englander
09-19-2018, 10:02 AM
An adult woman going into a restaurant in a bathing suit that police say she was impaired is a very sad thing.

manaboutown
09-19-2018, 10:24 AM
Bizarre and tragic events happen daily in the area. The online news recently reported a deranged adult son attacking his mother with kitchen knives and an apparently inebriated 77 year old man attacking a deputy who was trying to save his wife from choking on her own vomit.

Alcohol and other substance abuse is rampant these days. Age and economic class do not matter.

graciegirl
09-19-2018, 10:30 AM
So now you pile on to let us know that there were opiods in her car etc. etc.

GG it's all gossip .............. and we are all really good at gossip.

Pile on?


"Lady Lake police received a complaint at about 1:30 p.m. Thursday about the driver of a sport utility vehicle almost causing a head-on collision in the parking lot of the restaurant in Rolling Acres Plaza. The 78-year-old Villager who made the complaint said he saw the woman, wearing only the blue one-piece swimsuit, get out of the SUV and walk into the restaurant." snipped

"She refused to provide a breath sample without a lawyer present. She again asked police to call her mother.
An empty bottle of Hydrocodone was found in the center console of her SUV." snipped

fw102807
09-19-2018, 10:44 AM
It is a shame that people, especially in our age group, or others I guess, can't drink responsibly. I have on occasion went overboard, which Is bad, but some of these people just don't give a damn. I guess I really can't explain the feeling they are looking for when they overindulge. It has to be something that alters their state of mind so that they can live with whatever they are living with. Maybe there is someone here that can really explain what possesses them to drink, what feeling they get to make them drink and then what feeling they get to make the overindulge. Anybody?

Depression. Addicts are self medicating.

manaboutown
09-19-2018, 10:44 AM
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manaboutown
09-19-2018, 10:45 AM
So now you pile on to let us know that there were opiods in her car etc. etc.

GG it's all gossip .............. and we are all really good at gossip.

It is a report of facts about what happened, certainly not gossip.

Madelaine Amee
09-19-2018, 10:55 AM
It is a report of facts about what happened, certainly not gossip.

It certainly is gossip when people start enjoying what happened and continually throw the information out there. What for, do you (all of you) really enjoy seeing and reading about someone's pain because if so you might want to find something more interesting to do.

I assume I am going to offend a lot of people with my comments, but I dislike seeing people who need help being made a spectacle in public. We could have just left it that she was escorted out of the restaurant by the police. Instead of which we start looking into her background, searching through the internet, dragging up any and all dirt that can be found on this poor woman. NO I DO NOT KNOW HER, but I was raised to have empathy for the less fortunate in our society. .... and so ends the lesson for today ........

manaboutown
09-19-2018, 10:57 AM
It certainly is gossip when people start enjoying what happened and continually throw the information out there. What for, do you (all of you) really enjoy seeing and reading about someone's pain because if so you might want to find something more interesting to do.

I assume I am going to offend a lot of people with my comments, but I dislike seeing people who need help being made a spectacle in public. We could have just left it that she was escorted out of the restaurant by the police. Instead of which we start looking into her background, searching through the internet, dragging up any and all dirt that can be found on this poor woman. NO I DO NOT KNOW HER, but I was raised to have empathy for the less fortunate in our society. .... and so ends the lesson for today ........

Why do you not want the public to know the whole story?

fw102807
09-19-2018, 11:04 AM
Why do you not want the public to know the whole story?

If it was you or your family would you want to be dragged through the mud about it? Show some compassion.

Madelaine Amee
09-19-2018, 11:06 AM
Why do you not want the public to know the whole story?

Why would anyone want to know the whole story? I find it difficult enough to think that this poor woman has been seen in public in such a way. Maybe, as a woman who has lived a close to charmed life, it pains me deeply to see someone shown in this light.

Why dig in to this any more. You know she has a problem, fine, let someone help her, but to keep digging and digging into police reports and newspaper articles is beyond my comprehension. It quite frankly makes me sick to think that people actually are enjoying her pain.

That is all I have to say on the subject, because I have to get on with the rest of my day.

Taltarzac725
09-19-2018, 11:15 AM
Why do you not want the public to know the whole story?

Not sure if we need to know the whole story. This is just some woman experiencing some kind of addiction problems or whatever. Really only the business of her friends and family and the legal system if something else is involved.

I am wondering if the moving away from religion in many communities is a problem in all this? I went to BYU Law School on a Merit Scholarship for about ten days in the Fall of 1982. I had a recent covert as a roommate-- a Puerto Rican dance major-- and he wanted to get some points with the local Mormon leaders by getting me to accept the Mormon religion and I needed that time to study for my First Year of law school. I was also still in braces and had a terrible corduroy suit sold to us by a salesman when I went shopping with my Mom.

The Mormon church does take care of its own though and it looked this included members with various kinds of addiction problems. Or at least they try a great deal. Opioid addiction in the heart of Mormon country | CBC Radio (https://www.cbc.ca/radio/tapestry/drugs-and-peace-1.4555956/opioid-addiction-in-the-heart-of-mormon-country-1.4556110)

There was a very strict code at BYU as well that controlled intake of many substances. And the people there are very nosy about the conduct of everyone else even if I had a few girls wanting me to try to sneak into the girls' dorm. Which would have probably got me kicked out of BYU, if caught. I was a law student and the Mormon undergraduate girls-- some of them -- were very much there to find a husband. I think I was the only single male in the Class of 1985 at the BYU Law School. There were only 2 or 3 women in my Class that year.

The University of Denver, where I went the next year (starting in May of 1983) to get a MA in Librarianship was often called "Drug University" because of the money of many of the rather rich students and the availability of drugs of all kinds. Quite a change from BYU. It is a Methodist School though but getting involved in the religion was a choice of the student unlike a BYU where you had to attend Mormon services as a BYU student.

graciegirl
09-19-2018, 11:19 AM
Those who lecture about not judging are judging. No one can KNOW what is in another's mind or in their heart either. Many people who live here in The Villages have conquered addiction. People who drive impaired can hurt innocent people. Most reasonable people read the telling of these events and think; "There but for the grace of God go I". And then they are more careful for awhile anyway, walking in parking lots and driving in carts. Most reasonable people do not relish another's fall . We are all of us grown up. We have seen drunkenness and addiction either personally or on the news. It is sad and troubling.

manaboutown
09-19-2018, 11:23 AM
Why would anyone want to know the whole story? I find it difficult enough to think that this poor woman has been seen in public in such a way. Maybe, as a woman who has lived a close to charmed life, it pains me deeply to see someone shown in this light.

Why dig in to this any more. You know she has a problem, fine, let someone help her, but to keep digging and digging into police reports and newspaper articles is beyond my comprehension. It quite frankly makes me sick to think that people actually are enjoying her pain.

That is all I have to say on the subject, because I have to get on with the rest of my day.

Perhaps receiving notoriety is what will lead her to bottom out so she will seek help and clean up her act.

manaboutown
09-19-2018, 11:24 AM
Those who lecture about not judging are judging. No one can KNOW what is in another's mind or in their heart either. Many people who live here in The Villages have conquered addiction. People who drive impaired can hurt innocent people. Most reasonable people read the telling of these events and think; "There but for the grace of God go I". And then they are more careful for awhile anyway, walking in parking lots and driving in carts. Most reasonable people do not relish another's fall but we are all grown up. We have seen drunkenness and and addiction either personally or on the news. It is sad and troubling.

:agree:

manaboutown
09-19-2018, 11:28 AM
If it was you or your family would you want to be dragged through the mud about it? Show some compassion.

"Compassion" can be enabling to addicts. It can enable them to continue on with their substance abuse rather than face up to it and deal with it through AA, NA or treatment centers.

Taltarzac725
09-19-2018, 11:36 AM
"Compassion" can be enabling to addicts. It can enable them to continue on with their substance abuse rather than face up to it and deal with it through AA, NA or treatment centers.

From my family member's experience with AA and the other support groups are all about each member sharing their own experiences and helping one another cope with not taking that next drink or doing the next needle.

I still have the code that allowed me to at least to want to try BYU Law School. So it is usually my other family members who have had other kinds of addiction problems.

I have dropped a relative many times off at an AA meeting of some kind. Or waited outside an AA closed meeting for my relative(s) to get out.

graciegirl
09-19-2018, 12:01 PM
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manaboutown
09-19-2018, 12:18 PM
And public humiliation can make it worse. This thread is just plain mean and I do not understand why the mods have not taken it down.

Public humiliation is precisely what led a long time very close friend of mine to AA 25 years ago at the age of 65. I was at his 90th birthday party last Saturday. He has not had any alcohol in all that time.

Try attending some open AA meetings. You might be surprised at what it took for some alcoholics to get sober.

Chi-Town
09-19-2018, 12:22 PM
Checked out the story and another one about a drunken house party, and all I can think is how these people have lived this long.

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CFrance
09-19-2018, 12:48 PM
Did she say, "Yeah, I took all the pills that were in that empty bottle." Maybe they were somebody else's.

I'm not trying to defend her, per se, or deny that she has a problem, but I hate all the supposition that her parents are to blame for enabling her, or that she took the pills in the bottle, or that she has no other mental/physical disabilities that do not allow her to act as a reasonable human being. There is one story in an online newspaper that is notorious for not digging deep for the facts.

graciegirl
09-19-2018, 01:04 PM
Did she say, "Yeah, I took all the pills that were in that empty bottle." Maybe they were somebody else's.

I'm not trying to defend her, per se, or deny that she has a problem, but I hate all the supposition that her parents are to blame for enabling her, or that she took the pills in the bottle, or that she has no other mental/physical disabilities that do not allow her to act as a reasonable human being. There is one story in an online newspaper that is notorious for not digging deep for the facts.

None of us know. I am a card carrying mother. I have made leaps to conclusions that may or may not have been fair. Everyone is capable of a lot of things. EVERY ONE of us. As a society we have laws to protect people from harm. Sometimes we have to generalize and make decisions that make us choose to live in a safe area and decide who our friends are. Those choices don't mean we live in a world of hate or disdain or entitlement or bigotry or racism. When we make choices, when we decide these things, we are assessing a situation and getting to a bottom line. We are being practical and realistic. Being realistic has nothing to do with hatred. Nothing to do with bigotry, it is what allows us to survive and has done for thousands of years. When we survive we CAN help others. It is not either or.

CFrance
09-19-2018, 01:08 PM
It certainly is gossip when people start enjoying what happened and continually throw the information out there. What for, do you (all of you) really enjoy seeing and reading about someone's pain because if so you might want to find something more interesting to do.

I assume I am going to offend a lot of people with my comments, but I dislike seeing people who need help being made a spectacle in public. We could have just left it that she was escorted out of the restaurant by the police. Instead of which we start looking into her background, searching through the internet, dragging up any and all dirt that can be found on this poor woman. NO I DO NOT KNOW HER, but I was raised to have empathy for the less fortunate in our society. .... and so ends the lesson for today ........
And a good lesson it is.

manaboutown
09-19-2018, 01:12 PM
These statistics about drunk driving are concerning to me. Consider the tragic cost in lives, injuries and property damage caused by drunks, stoners and other substance abusers. Drunk Driving | NHTSA (https://www.nhtsa.gov/risky-driving/drunk-driving)

If this thread will in some manner such as increasing awareness save one life it is worth posting.

fw102807
09-19-2018, 01:14 PM
Public humiliation is precisely what led a long time very close friend of mine to AA 25 years ago at the age of 65. I was at his 90th birthday party last Saturday. He has not had any alcohol in all that time.

Try attending some open AA meetings. You might be surprised at what it took for some alcoholics to get sober.

Public humiliation has also driven some to suicide. It depends on the individual and it is not our call.

manaboutown
09-19-2018, 01:17 PM
Public humiliation has also driven some to suicide. It depends on the individual and it is not our call.

What may drive them to suicide is their continuing substance abuse as it inevitably ends in incarceration, insanity or death.

graciegirl
09-19-2018, 01:19 PM
And a good lesson it is.

I am very glad we saw her picture in the online news instead of the picture of a dead person that she had run down. It was mentioned she almost hit someone.

Thousands have died from opioid overdose in the last year. THOUSANDS. I would be willing to think she took the pills.

jebartle
09-19-2018, 03:14 PM
Public humiliation is precisely what led a long time very close friend of mine to AA 25 years ago at the age of 65. I was at his 90th birthday party last Saturday. He has not had any alcohol in all that time.

Try attending some open AA meetings. You might be surprised at what it took for some alcoholics to get sober.

Life is good here in paradise, drinking can't possibly make it better, can it?

kcrazorbackfan
09-20-2018, 08:35 PM
When you arrested someone did you have to appear in court for the charge?

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I did unless they plead out on recommendation of their attorney. There are LEO’s that arrest people on iffy circumstances; I always made sure that I had good, well documented evidence for the arrest.