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dewilson58
09-18-2018, 11:20 AM
"Television's biggest night could end up with its smallest audience ever.
The 70th Annual Primetime Emmy Awards nabbed a 7.4 overnight rating for NBC. That number is down 10% from last year, which ended up tying for the lowest viewership in Emmy history. If the early numbers are any indication, then Monday's show could be a historic low when official viewership is released later on Tuesday.
The Emmys aren't alone when it comes to declining viewership. The Oscars and Grammys' numbers have also suffered in recent years.
Nielsen takes the percentage of households watching in 56 US markets and comes up with an overnight average. That means that 7.4% of households in these 56 markets tuned into the Emmys on Monday night. "
Have not watched for years..............seems like fewer and fewer people are watching.
Villagevip
09-18-2018, 11:24 AM
Great! Lets keep the good news coming.....
Taltarzac725
09-18-2018, 12:05 PM
There are so many other viewing options available now that almost everything suffers except maybe the Superbowl and some other sporting events.
VillageIdiots
09-18-2018, 12:43 PM
People are wising up and are tired of seeing smarter than everyone else celebs taking advantage of opportunities to get in front of a camera and spread their political agenda. I don't care which side you are on, accept your award, thank the proper people and go back to your seat. We can blame it on other viewing options if we want, but I know I'm at least one that does not watch any of those mentioned award shows any longer, and I suspect I am not alone.
manaboutown
09-18-2018, 12:52 PM
Well, I for one was occupied reading a good book. I could care less about celebrities such as actors and singers congratulating each other much less about their opinions on anything.
Rapscallion St Croix
09-18-2018, 01:35 PM
I could probably tell you why the ratings are so low, but that would be a violation of the "no politics" clause. Suffice to say the Country Music Awards show is doing fine.
billethkid
09-18-2018, 01:57 PM
Just goes to show what results can be expected when the so called celebs don't have a script to read/memorize, and a small army to make them look good and sound good in the part being played.
They need to go back to staying in their bubble world!!
My Post
09-18-2018, 02:06 PM
Tina Fey could have done much better. Man her and her husband are a weird looking couple.
Taltarzac725
09-18-2018, 02:11 PM
Just goes to show what results can be expected when the so called celebs don't have a script to read/memorize, and a small army to make them look good and sound good in the part being played.
They need to go back to staying in their bubble world!!
Some are very active in the real world engaging with people on social media and going out into their home town communities and asking them good questions. I have exchanged communications with many of them over the years since a few movie production trailers were located for years 300 feet from our Rohnert Park, CA home's back door. This house bordered a golf course. These trailers were at the Red Lion Inn back in the early 1990s. I used to walk my dog around these with the hope of chatting with some of these people. Which I did mostly about how to avoid the duck poop all over the golf greens.
Lots of films were made in the Sonoma, Marin and Napa Counties in Northern California in the 1990s. Many are still made around there.
And a lot of these celebrities had e-mail addresses. Now they are on Facebook.
Jima64
09-18-2018, 02:43 PM
Maybe they should focus on awards. I don't give a rats azzzz about the political views, lousy corny jokes and idle fake chit chat.
MSchad
09-18-2018, 02:48 PM
People are wising up and are tired of seeing smarter than everyone else celebs taking advantage of opportunities to get in front of a camera and spread their political agenda. I don't care which side you are on, accept your award, thank the proper people and go back to your seat. We can blame it on other viewing options if we want, but I know I'm at least one that does not watch any of those mentioned award shows any longer, and I suspect I am not alone.
You are not alone!
Rapscallion St Croix
09-18-2018, 02:48 PM
Some are very active in the real world engaging with people on social media and going out into their home town communities and asking them good questions. I have had exchanged communications with many of them over the years since a few movie production trailers were located for years 300 feet from our Rohnert Park, CA home's back door. This house bordered a golf course. These trailers were at the Red Lion Inn back in the early 1990s. I used to walk my dog around these with the hope of chatting with some of these people. Which I did mostly about how to avoid the duck poop all over the golf greens.
Lots of films were made in the Sonoma, Marin and Napa Counties in Northern California in the 1990s. Many are still made around there.
And a lot of these celebrities had e-mail addresses. Now they are on Facebook.
Most of us are not star struck.
Polar Bear
09-18-2018, 03:27 PM
Personally, I think the low ratings are attributable at least to some degree by the hosts. Those guys are the lamest SNL news hosts in its history, imo. And nearly all of their “humor” is making fun of Trump in one way or another. That only plays well to a certain group and I would think it would wear thin even for them after a while.
SFSkol
09-18-2018, 03:53 PM
The real reason that viewership had declined is that because within hours you can watch clips on YouTube of the awards that interest you. Entertainment sites present transcripts, have links to clips and list the highlights. You no longer need to wait until the morning paper for details. And three-hour commercialized telecasts are too much of a commitment. I predict it will eventually turn into an hour highlight show.
DonH57
09-18-2018, 03:53 PM
Maybe they should focus on awards. I don't give a rats azzzz about the political views, lousy corny jokes and idle fake chit chat.
Same here. Don't watch any of the award shows anymore.
Taltarzac725
09-18-2018, 03:56 PM
Most of us are not star struck.
Neither am I. Just realistic. If you are up against a strong bully you need someone stronger beside you.
patfla06
09-18-2018, 08:03 PM
People are wising up and are tired of seeing smarter than everyone else celebs taking advantage of opportunities to get in front of a camera and spread their political agenda. I don't care which side you are on, accept your award, thank the proper people and go back to your seat. We can blame it on other viewing options if we want, but I know I'm at least one that does not watch any of those mentioned award shows any longer, and I suspect I am not alone.
:bigbow:
B-flat
09-18-2018, 08:50 PM
People are wising up and are tired of seeing smarter than everyone else celebs taking advantage of opportunities to get in front of a camera and spread their political agenda. I don't care which side you are on, accept your award, thank the proper people and go back to your seat. We can blame it on other viewing options if we want, but I know I'm at least one that does not watch any of those mentioned award shows any longer, and I suspect I am not alone.
Ditto! They need to do the acting and leave their political agenda out of the mix. I’m happy to see the ratings falling.
collie1228
09-19-2018, 08:24 AM
I've never heard of most of them; there are many, many other shows with "celebrities" awarding themselves grandiose awards that I don't care about (i.e., Academy Awards, Golden Globes, Peoples Choice, SAG, Critics Choice, Grammy's, and on and on); the vast majority of them lean way left in their political views, don't tolerate different views from within their community, and like to slam me (a middle American) for mine; and the "comedy" is seldom funny. Hopefully the awards shows continue on their severe decline.
Chi-Town
09-19-2018, 09:33 AM
What I saw of the Emmys was not much poltical stuff but a ton of lameness. Worst I ever saw.
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Taltarzac725
09-19-2018, 09:51 AM
What I saw of the Emmys was not much poltical stuff but a ton of lameness. Worst I ever saw.
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Some of the Saturday Night Live material of the past few years has not been all that funny. And both hosts of the Emmys this year are from SNL.
Still believe that celebrities can play a huge role in changing attitudes and the like in communities about many topics. It is usually through stories they tell. True or not.
graciegirl
09-19-2018, 10:44 AM
Some of the Saturday Night Live material of the past few years has not been all that funny. And both hosts of the Emmys this year are from SNL.
Still believe that celebrities can play a huge role in changing attitudes and the like in communities about many topics. It is usually through stories they tell. True or not.
Maybe.
The ratings drop was too much drama that wasn't in any performed script. Too many opinions that didn't coincide with about half this countries population. Ratings don't lie. Only half the country enjoy the public service announcements. PLAY TO THE HOUSE...……..
manaboutown
09-19-2018, 10:54 AM
Some of the Saturday Night Live material of the past few years has not been all that funny. And both hosts of the Emmys this year are from SNL.
Still believe that celebrities can play a huge role in changing attitudes and the like in communities about many topics. It is usually through stories they tell. True or not.
Many celebrities have histories of substance abuse, mental issues and "stinking thinking" about which most of us do not care a whit. Simply because they are celebrities they are able gain access to stages from which to pontificate their absurd thoughts and beliefs.
Bobcuse
09-19-2018, 11:19 AM
The Country Music Awards shows (CMA's or ACM's) consist of mostly musical entertainment with awards mixed in between performances plus some humorous remarks which are usually poking fun at each other rather than hateful remarks about political people or events. Country music has a fan base pretty much limited to its music genre whereas the Emmys are to honor the best of all television genres. The last CMA awards show drew 14+ million viewers whereas last night's Emmys drew 10 million. Why? Read the above comments by TOTV members pointing out the issues with Hollywood elites.
Bay Kid
09-20-2018, 07:18 AM
Too many hypocrites.
JoMar
09-20-2018, 02:00 PM
The winners are determined by a peer group of voters, not buy the audiences. That may be part of the disconnect.
Topspinmo
09-20-2018, 10:04 PM
If lala land would stick to acting and keep their personnel political views to themselves they might regain some audience. But, some big mouths can't keep the propaganda from flowing out there Cazoo. Hollywood about as far from reality as it gets.
SFSkol
09-21-2018, 01:18 AM
I can't believe that most of the comments here are stereotyping the character of celebrities.
Many celebrities have histories of substance abuse, mental issues and "stinking thinking" about which most of us do not care a whit. Simply because they are celebrities they are able gain access to stages from which to pontificate their absurd thoughts and beliefs.
Those that I have worked with have proven to be a group of passionate, intelligent, and creative individuals. I have seen that the proportion of celebrities, with issues, as quoted above, are no different than the general US population contains. Yes, even the Villages.
And who put the celebrities there? We did, of course.
Sure they get gillons of dollars for their performances. But they also donate substantial amounts of money and their time to many wonderful charity organizations. Something that most critics overlook.
Robert De Niro: Charity Work & Causes - Look to the Stars (https://www.looktothestars.org/celebrity/robert-de-niro)
The 20 Most Charitable Celebrities in Hollywood (https://moneyinc.com/charitable-celebrities/)
So, I don't mind a little pontification now and then.
You cannot compare the Oscar, Emmy type of awards to CMA or the Tonys, which have been renewed by CBS till 2025. Video award shows have little entertainment value: An excerpt of a movie or TV show has little overall meaning. Whereas the entertaining Tony musical numbers and CMA songs have traditionally proven steady in viewership.
(The Grammys are something else entirely.)
BTW: Tina Fey's husband, Jeff Richmond, has three Emmys, and a show on Broadway. Looks aren't everything.
karostay
09-21-2018, 07:50 AM
Hell hasn't frozen over yet.
I won't be supporting Hollywood any time soon.
Emmy's or Oscars
Taltarzac725
09-21-2018, 07:54 AM
I can't believe that most of the comments here are stereotyping the character of celebrities.
Those that I have worked with have proven to be a group of passionate, intelligent, and creative individuals. I have seen that the proportion of celebrities, with issues, as quoted above, are no different than the general US population contains. Yes, even the Villages.
And who put the celebrities there? We did, of course.
Sure they get gillons of dollars for their performances. But they also donate substantial amounts of money and their time to many wonderful charity organizations. Something that most critics overlook.
Robert De Niro: Charity Work & Causes - Look to the Stars (https://www.looktothestars.org/celebrity/robert-de-niro)
The 20 Most Charitable Celebrities in Hollywood (https://moneyinc.com/charitable-celebrities/)
So, I don't mind a little pontification now and then.
You cannot compare the Oscar, Emmy type of awards to CMA or the Tonys, which have been renewed by CBS till 2025. Video award shows have little entertainment value: An excerpt of a movie or TV show has little overall meaning. Whereas the entertaining Tony musical numbers and CMA songs have traditionally proven steady in viewership.
(The Grammys are something else entirely.)
BTW: Tina Fey's husband, Jeff Richmond, has three Emmys, and a show on Broadway. Looks aren't everything.
I have chatted with various celebrities online via Facebook and you are right that they should not be stereotyped. Each one is different from the next one.
leftyf
09-21-2018, 08:25 AM
Hollywood hasn't put out anything I will watch anymore so I am now streaming The Waltons. Once upon a time, Hollywood could get it right.
Taltarzac725
09-21-2018, 08:39 AM
Hollywood hasn't put out anything I will watch anymore so I am now streaming The Waltons. Once upon a time, Hollywood could get it right.
Lots of very good movies, TV shows, and other forms of entertainment and other motivated stuff out there.
Rapscallion St Croix
09-21-2018, 12:58 PM
I can't believe that most of the comments here are stereotyping the character of celebrities.
Those that I have worked with have proven to be a group of passionate, intelligent, and creative individuals. I have seen that the proportion of celebrities, with issues, as quoted above, are no different than the general US population contains. Yes, even the Villages.
And who put the celebrities there? We did, of course.
Sure they get gillons of dollars for their performances. But they also donate substantial amounts of money and their time to many wonderful charity organizations. Something that most critics overlook.
Robert De Niro: Charity Work & Causes - Look to the Stars (https://www.looktothestars.org/celebrity/robert-de-niro)
The 20 Most Charitable Celebrities in Hollywood (https://moneyinc.com/charitable-celebrities/)
So, I don't mind a little pontification now and then.
You cannot compare the Oscar, Emmy type of awards to CMA or the Tonys, which have been renewed by CBS till 2025. Video award shows have little entertainment value: An excerpt of a movie or TV show has little overall meaning. Whereas the entertaining Tony musical numbers and CMA songs have traditionally proven steady in viewership.
(The Grammys are something else entirely.)
BTW: Tina Fey's husband, Jeff Richmond, has three Emmys, and a show on Broadway. Looks aren't everything.
Stereotypes are mostly accurate....look it up.
Topspinmo
09-21-2018, 01:59 PM
I can't believe that most of the comments here are stereotyping the character of celebrities.
Those that I have worked with have proven to be a group of passionate, intelligent, and creative individuals. I have seen that the proportion of celebrities, with issues, as quoted above, are no different than the general US population contains. Yes, even the Villages.
And who put the celebrities there? We did, of course.
Sure they get gillons of dollars for their performances. But they also donate substantial amounts of money and their time to many wonderful charity organizations. Something that most critics overlook.
Robert De Niro: Charity Work & Causes - Look to the Stars (https://www.looktothestars.org/celebrity/robert-de-niro)
The 20 Most Charitable Celebrities in Hollywood (https://moneyinc.com/charitable-celebrities/)
So, I don't mind a little pontification now and then.
You cannot compare the Oscar, Emmy type of awards to CMA or the Tonys, which have been renewed by CBS till 2025. Video award shows have little entertainment value: An excerpt of a movie or TV show has little overall meaning. Whereas the entertaining Tony musical numbers and CMA songs have traditionally proven steady in viewership.
(The Grammys are something else entirely.)
BTW: Tina Fey's husband, Jeff Richmond, has three Emmys, and a show on Broadway. Looks aren't everything.
so, I guess you get the tingling down the leg when around movie stars AKA waiters and waitresses.
Topspinmo
09-21-2018, 02:00 PM
Lots of very good movies, TV shows, and other forms of entertainment and other motivated stuff out there.
we all have opinions don't we!
Bucco
09-21-2018, 02:18 PM
Stereotypes are mostly accurate....look it up.
I did look it up.....
"Stereotype
An assumed label given to someone out of pure ignorance and arrogance.
Often given by people who live up to the stereotypical standards of "preps", which is pretty sad."
Urban Dictionary: Stereotype (https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Stereotype)
"The use of stereotypes is a major way in which we simplify our social world; since they reduce the amount of processing (i.e. thinking) we have to do when we meet a new person.
By stereotyping we infer that a person has a whole range of characteristics and abilities that we assume all members of that group have. Stereotypes lead to social categorization, which is one of the reasons for prejudice attitudes (i.e. “them” and “us” mentality) which leads to in-groups and out-groups."
Stereotypes | Simply Psychology (https://www.simplypsychology.org/katz-braly.html)
Rapscallion St Croix
09-21-2018, 02:22 PM
I did look it up.....
"Stereotype
An assumed label given to someone out of pure ignorance and arrogance.
Often given by people who live up to the stereotypical standards of "preps", which is pretty sad."
Urban Dictionary: Stereotype (https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Stereotype)
"The use of stereotypes is a major way in which we simplify our social world; since they reduce the amount of processing (i.e. thinking) we have to do when we meet a new person.
By stereotyping we infer that a person has a whole range of characteristics and abilities that we assume all members of that group have. Stereotypes lead to social categorization, which is one of the reasons for prejudice attitudes (i.e. “them” and “us” mentality) which leads to in-groups and out-groups."
Stereotypes | Simply Psychology (https://www.simplypsychology.org/katz-braly.html)
Look deeper. Urban Dictionary and a study done in the 1930s...really?
Look at Stereotype Accuracy
Bucco
09-21-2018, 02:32 PM
Look deeper. Urban Dictionary and a study done in the 1930s...really?
Look at Stereotype Accuracy
I did that first....my post was tongue in cheek, although I agree.
Those who LABEL groups and then interact based on that are just plain uninformed IN MY OPINION.
My guess is that your choice of links would change under other circumstances.
And OPINIONS are different than stereotyping......much different.
Those celebrities making fun or comments would be embraced if their aim was just a bit different.
If any stereotype was accurate, what is the sense of even trying, learning or even living. Our fate has been determined by someone stereotyping my skin, words, religion, my parents heritage, my choice of career. Pretty dumb stuff in my opinion, and I always find it the easy way out to classify everyone without any effort to even know me......
Chi-Town
09-21-2018, 02:54 PM
Hollywood, Broadway, NFL, Amazon, Nike, network media, et.al. So many taboos that we all used to enjoy. Or maybe we still do.
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Bucco
09-21-2018, 03:03 PM
Hollywood, Broadway, NFL, Amazon, Nike, network media, et.al. So many taboos that we all used to enjoy. Or maybe we still do.
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It seems like there has to ba a target.....you have to hate someone to rally it seems.
ColdNoMore
09-21-2018, 03:12 PM
I did that first....my post was tongue in cheek, although I agree.
Those who LABEL groups and then interact based on that are just plain uninformed IN MY OPINION.
My guess is that your choice of links would change under other circumstances.
And OPINIONS are different than stereotyping......much different.
Those celebrities making fun or comments would be embraced if their aim was just a bit different.
If any stereotype was accurate, what is the sense of even trying, learning or even living. Our fate has been determined by someone stereotyping my skin, words, religion, my parents heritage, my choice of career. Pretty dumb stuff in my opinion, and I always find it the easy way out to classify everyone without any effort to even know me......
Yep.
Although some will stop as soon as they see a couple of sentences that reinforces their own (often ugly/bigoted/racist) confirmation bias, intellectuals will read (and more importantly, understand)...the entire link.
Stereotyping (http://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/insight-therapy/201809/stereotype-accuracy-displeasing-truth)
graciegirl
09-21-2018, 03:23 PM
I have chatted with various celebrities online via Facebook and you are right that they should not be stereotyped. Each one is different from the next one.
How about the group that belongs to the actors guild and the television academy of arts and sciences who use the Emmy's for their political views, which in almost every situation coincide with about half of this countries population which in turn affects the ratings of the Emmy's show in a downward way. If that group would not bring up issues that cause people to tune out, then the ratings would be higher. Then everyone would again enjoy watching the Emmy's. And there would be peace across the land.:popcorn:
ColdNoMore
09-21-2018, 03:28 PM
I never realized that Ted Nugent was so despised...by so many TV'ers. :shrug:
Fredman
09-21-2018, 03:33 PM
How about the group that belongs to the actors guild and the television academy of arts and sciences who use the Emmy's for their political views, which in almost every situation coincide with about half of this countries population which in turn affects the ratings of the Emmy's show in a downward way. If that group would not bring up issues that cause people to tune out, then the ratings would be higher. Then everyone would again enjoy watching the Emmy's. And there would be peace across the land.:popcorn:
Good point
graciegirl
09-21-2018, 03:34 PM
I never realized that Ted Nugent was so despised...by so many TV'ers. :shrug:
The thread is about Emmy ratings and why they have dropped in recent years. They have dropped in recent years. Perhaps the gowns aren't right? The lighting? The time of the evening? The commercials? The political speeches?
Bucco
09-21-2018, 03:44 PM
How about the group that belongs to the actors guild and the television academy of arts and sciences who use the Emmy's for their political views, which in almost every situation coincide with about half of this countries population which in turn affects the ratings of the Emmy's show in a downward way. If that group would not bring up issues that cause people to tune out, then the ratings would be higher. Then everyone would again enjoy watching the Emmy's. And there would be peace across the land.:popcorn:
This is a prime example of FALSE EQUIVALENCY.
Let me be clear. I have no dog in this race. In my entire almost 80 years on this earth, I have never watched an award show...for TV, Movies, or whatever. NEVER ONCE.
Now, you make claims that have no validity..none. I can make a better case for the idea that the entertainment world, especially TV is severely fragmented with all the options.
Viewership has nothing to do with what you keep proclaiming....facts is, in the week you speak of, the NFL was leading all the ratings.
Everything is not about what YOU say it is.
Second piece of FALSE EQUIVALENCY is what YOU proclaim to be the view of half the population, which I can show, if you believe in polls, and probably now you don't, is wrong.
Everything in this world and nation does not revolve around what you try to make everything about.
My opinion, admittedly my opinion, you would be expressing different opinions had the targets or type of humor been a little different.
Bucco
09-21-2018, 03:46 PM
The thread is about Emmy ratings and why they have dropped in recent years. They have dropped in recent years. Perhaps the gowns aren't right? The lighting? The time of the evening? The commercials?
They are down because the entire industry is all pieces now. People are no longer dependent on three networks and what they offer.
Folks today don't even know half the people in the shows.
The industry is flat out not the same as it was.....that is the reason. This is accepted fact by most. Has nothing to do with anything but that.
Times have changed....NFL ratings are down primarily because of RedZone and saturation.....RedZone viewership is not counted in the weekly ratings, and all the crappola about why is just stupid. Actually the NFL had most of the most watched shows in 2017, and I understand NASCAR has really dipped in the ratings.
Bottom line....the tv watching is not the same and thus cannot be compared.
Emmy award shows and Oscar award shows will continue no matter what. Analyzing the ratings for some deep political reason is a fools errand
graciegirl
09-21-2018, 04:27 PM
They are down because the entire industry is all pieces now. People are no longer dependent on three networks and what they offer.
Folks today don't even know half the people in the shows.
The industry is flat out not the same as it was.....that is the reason. This is accepted fact by most. Has nothing to do with anything but that.
Times have changed....NFL ratings are down primarily because of RedZone and saturation.....RedZone viewership is not counted in the weekly ratings, and all the crappola about why is just stupid. Actually the NFL had most of the most watched shows in 2017, and I understand NASCAR has really dipped in the ratings.
Bottom line....the tv watching is not the same and thus cannot be compared.
Emmy award shows and Oscar award shows will continue no matter what. Analyzing the ratings for some deep political reason is a fools errand
I am writing this down.
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