Pedophiles do live in The Villages.

[graciegirl]

The other site reports them when they move in and shows their picture. There are probably other people who are previously convicted of bad stuff who live here too.

There is nothing we can do to keep them out or make them leave. Their rights are protected. Only kids under nineteen can be excluded. They can only visit here a total of 30 days in a year.

I really believe that we have an awful lot of good people who have never been in trouble with the law, and have always paid their bills and taken care of their responsibilities who live here. But I was born optimistic and went to a retreat once where they said it was best to try to find good in situations and people. Every once in awhile I remember to do that. Most of the time I jump to conclusions.

[Bucco]

The other site reports them when they move in and shows their picture. There are probably other people who are previously convicted of bad stuff who live here too.

There is nothing we can do to keep them out or make them leave. Their rights are protected. Only kids under nineteen can be excluded. They can only visit here a total of 30 days in a year.

I really believe that we have an awful lot of good people who have never been in trouble with the law, and have always paid their bills and taken care of their responsibilities who live here. But I was born optimistic and went to a retreat once where they said it was best to try to find good in situations and people. Every once in awhile I remember to do that. Most of the time I jump to conclusions.

Curious the purpose of this thread ???

[graciegirl]

Curious the purpose of this thread ???

The purpose of this thread is to focus on the reality that both good and bad people live here. Young people can be good or bad. Old people can be good or bad and middle aged people can be good or bad. This is an age restricted community but some bad people live here. But mostly good people live here. I was making the point that we need to realize that this place cannot keep bad or good people out.

[Gpsma]

Thank you for sharing that. It is very meaningful.

[Chi-Town]

The other site reports them when they move in and shows their picture. There are probably other people who are previously convicted of bad stuff who live here too.

There is nothing we can do to keep them out or make them leave. Their rights are protected. Only kids under nineteen can be excluded. They can only visit here a total of 30 days in a year.

I really believe that we have an awful lot of good people who have never been in trouble with the law, and have always paid their bills and taken care of their responsibilities who live here. But I was born optimistic and went to a retreat once where they said it was best to try to find good in situations and people. Every once in awhile I remember to do that. Most of the time I jump to conclusions.Since you brought it up..... what would you do or how would you feel if a pedophile moved next door to you?

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[graciegirl]

Thank you for sharing that. It is very meaningful.

Awwwwwww.

[graciegirl]

Since you brought it up..... what would you do or how would you feel if a pedophile moved next door to you?

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You first.

[njbchbum]

Since you brought it up..... what would you do or how would you feel if a pedophile moved next door to you?

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Probably be as wary of them as was done for others when they moved into the neighborhood and would be done when new neighbors move in in the future...all while hoping to find the good in the situation and the new neighbor! Kind of the same way I felt when the home for recovering women [with their children] moved four doors away from my up North home! Was so happy to find out that they are a great bunch of women finding out that they are stronger than they knew!

[lorilorilori]

I would have no problem cause the truth behind all this media hype against sex crimes
is to overshadow the drug problem. Murderers, rapist, embezzlers, bank robbers and
DRUG DEALERS are not on the "LIST." The public is being DUPED into thinking the "LIST"
is important for public safety over a DRUG DEALERS LIST (which doesn't exist).

Thanks to the likes of John Walsh, Chris Hansen and Lauren and Ron Book - they have
made millions off the registry - while Drug Dealers are free to roam the schools and
neighborhoods killing people, turning girls into the street trade of prostitution etc.

Sex offenders have the lowest rate of recividism. Drug dealers the highest.
A murderer or animal abuser can live next to you - and you would not know it.
Cause the "List" is a smoke screen cause the govt isn't willing to take on the
drug trade openly and in the same manner as the "list."

[BK001]

Since you brought it up..... what would you do or how would you feel if a pedophile moved next door to you?

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At 67 years old, I'm probably safer living next to a pedophile than a non-pedophile. (Not trying to make a joke although it is a good basis for one). But pedophilia is a sickness and, if given the choice, I prefer having healthy neighbors over sickos.

[thetruth]

Curious the purpose of this thread ???

We've had zealots post names of all registered gun owners. Sex offenders is also out there.

NOT AMUSING AT THE TIME.

I had a joint with my WIFE band CD seized by CPS CHILD PROTECTION SERVICES for child support for the kid of some lady in North Carolina.

THE TRUTH IS I DO NOT EVEN KNOW WHO THIS LADY IS OR WAS.

A call to CPS and the zealot on the other end of the phone suggested I fax her a copy of my social secuity number.
My reply was my fax number is YOU FAX ME YOURS AND I WILL FAX YOU MINE.

My bank was about as helpful they wanted to charge me $100 PLUS for THEIR ATTY FEES.

IN THE END, IT WAS A BANK ERROR. I INSISTED ON AN APOLOGY LETTER FROM CPS SIGNED BY THE-I LOOKED UP THE NAME OF THE BRANCH MANAGER AND THE BANK PRESIDENT. REASON BOTH SPITE AND THE FASCT THAT IF THEIR CLAIM WAS REPORTED MY REPUTATION WOULD HAVE BEEN DAMAGED.

A friend was involved a a nasty divorce. I of course only got one side BUT, his wife ACCUSED him of sexually toucching his daughter. The young girl was brought to CPS for interviews and INSPECTION. A GOOD INTENTIONED ORGANIZATION- I HAVE NO DOUBT. Did this interview and inspection damage this young girl? OF COURSE IT DID.

[graciegirl]

We've had zealots post names of all registered gun owners. Sex offenders is also out there.

NOT AMUSING AT THE TIME.

I had a joint with my WIFE band CD seized by CPS CHILD PROTECTION SERVICES for child support for the kid of some lady in North Carolina.

THE TRUTH IS I DO NOT EVEN KNOW WHO THIS LADY IS OR WAS.

A call to CPS and the zealot on the other end of the phone suggested I fax her a copy of my social secuity number.
My reply was my fax number is YOU FAX ME YOURS AND I WILL FAX YOU MINE.

My bank was about as helpful they wanted to charge me $100 PLUS for THEIR ATTY FEES.

IN THE END, IT WAS A BANK ERROR. I INSISTED ON AN APOLOGY LETTER FROM CPS SIGNED BY THE-I LOOKED UP THE NAME OF THE BRANCH MANAGER AND THE BANK PRESIDENT. REASON BOTH SPITE AND THE FASCT THAT IF THEIR CLAIM WAS REPORTED MY REPUTATION WOULD HAVE BEEN DAMAGED.

A friend was involved a a nasty divorce. I of course only got one side BUT, his wife ACCUSED him of sexually toucching his daughter. The young girl was brought to CPS for interviews and INSPECTION. A GOOD INTENTIONED ORGANIZATION- I HAVE NO DOUBT. Did this interview and inspection damage this young girl? OF COURSE IT DID.

I can't understand this.

[BK001]

Probably be as wary of them as was done for others when they moved into the neighborhood and would be done when new neighbors move in in the future...all while hoping to find the good in the situation and the new neighbor! Kind of the same way I felt when the home for recovering women [with their children] moved four doors away from my up North home! Was so happy to find out that they are a great bunch of women finding out that they are stronger than they knew!

You sound like a very nice person.

[charmed59]

If you want to know if there is a someone who has to register as a sexual offender or predator in your neighborhood, the website is:

FDLE - Sexual Offender and Predator System (https://offender.fdle.state.fl.us)

[manaboutown]

There are several types of chronophilias. Pedophilia is only one. Nepiophilia and ephebophilia are others. Unless their grandchildren visit frequently most Villagers might have more cause for concern if a person having gerontophilia or possibly mesophilia moved into their neighborhood.

[Chi-Town]

You first.C'mon GG, it's your thread. You have grandchildren visiting, so how would pool time feel with a pedophile next door.

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[EdFNJ]

I can't understand this.


But you must admit ... it's "THETRUTH" ! :D

[EdFNJ]

Curious the purpose of this thread ???


Keep up the post count ??? ;) :D

[BK001]

There are several types of chronophilias. Pedophilia is only one. Nepiophilia and ephebophilia are others. Unless their grandchildren visit frequently most Villagers might have more cause for concern if a person having gerontophilia or possibly mesophilia moved into their neighborhood.

From Wikipedia:

1. Chronophilia - sexual attraction limited to individuals of particular age ranges

2. Pedohebephilia - sexual attraction to children from infancy through prepubescence, ages birth-10

2.a. Infantophilia - sexual attraction to infants, toddlers and children, ages birth-4

2.b. Pedophilia - sexual attraction to prepubescent children, ages 5–10

3. Nepiophilia is a sub-type of pedophilia where the sexual preference is for children aged 0 to 3 years old.

4. Hebephilia - sexual attraction of an older adolescent or adult to pubescent children, ages 11–14

5. Ephebophilia - sexual attraction of an older adolescent or adult to pubescent children, ages 15–19

6. Teleiophilia - sexual attraction to adults

7. Mesophilia - sexual attraction to middle-aged adults

8. Gerontophilia - sexual attraction to elderly adults

[Kenswing]

I guess I'm a Teleiophiliac. Do I need to register?

[fw102807]

I guess I'm a Teleiophiliac. Do I need to register?

Only with Abby

[manaboutown]

What are chronophilias? (http://theconversation.com/what-are-chronophilias-88074)

[Bucco]

Keep up the post count ??? ;) :D

Do not want to believe that.

I just wonder WHO does not know this is a LARGE, HUGE place....has more in common with a "normal" city than a retirement community.

As a result we have a mix of people........I have posted often about the need to label everyone or make the constant STEREOTYPE threads and posts. I do not understand it at all.

I simply question the motive to keep on bringing up other people either from the news, or folks complying with the law and registering as a sex offender.

I make friends easy and with no judgement except on what they say or do......never knew that was a bad thing.

[Taltarzac725]

You should look at the individual in cases like this. There are some badly drafted laws involved with these sexual crimes registration lists. And there are people as one poster wrote that use accusations of sexual assault as weapons in divorce, probate and any other case where $$$ in involved.

Try to find out what that neighbor is on a list like this.

I had a client while in law school who was the first man to be convicted of raping his wife in the state of Minnesota. A real scumbag IMHO and the other prisoners at that particular Minnesota Correctional Facility seemed to think they same from their interactions with the man when I was in that prison interviewing this man. The judge actually chewed me out for just representing this man as so many MN women seemed to really hate this man. You take what cases come in when a law student. You do not get a choice on whom you represent.

But I can see some nefarious lawyer bringing up a false rape charge in a bad divorce case. I looked at my client's file and it was anything but made up. Lots of physical evidence against him. It was a very violent rape, in other words.

Some of the forty or so prisoners I, or one of my law students, represented were good people who just made bad decisions. I can see some 19 year old falling in love with a 17 year old and that man being prosecuted if the parents in question had problems with their kids' dating of some kind. In some states if this 19 year old were convicted of Statutory Rape he might be on a sexual offender list. Mapped: Sex offender registry laws on statutory rape, public urination, and prostitution. (http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2014/08/mapped_sex_offender_registry_laws_on_statutory_rap e_public_urination_and.html)

[CFrance]

I can't understand this.
Me neither. How could a bank error end up in CPS. What is a "joint with my wife band CD"?


Very confusing.

[Chi-Town]

Curious the purpose of this thread ???Perhaps the reason for this Sunday morning thread is that it was from a church sermon the OP attended. Lawdy lawdy. [emoji41]


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[npwalters]

I would have no problem cause the truth behind all this media hype against sex crimes
is to overshadow the drug problem. Murderers, rapist, embezzlers, bank robbers and
DRUG DEALERS are not on the "LIST." The public is being DUPED into thinking the "LIST"
is important for public safety over a DRUG DEALERS LIST (which doesn't exist).

Thanks to the likes of John Walsh, Chris Hansen and Lauren and Ron Book - they have
made millions off the registry - while Drug Dealers are free to roam the schools and
neighborhoods killing people, turning girls into the street trade of prostitution etc.

Sex offenders have the lowest rate of recividism. Drug dealers the highest.
A murderer or animal abuser can live next to you - and you would not know it.
Cause the "List" is a smoke screen cause the govt isn't willing to take on the
drug trade openly and in the same manner as the "list."

While what you say is true ….it is not relevant. Sex offenders will probably repeat the act again in their lifetime since it is a "sickness" as someone else pointed out (documented and the cause of "special treatment for sex offenders). Drug users (and other criminals) usually harm themselves and not others. Yes, I know they also commit crime to pay for the drugs, etc.


When a sex offender commits the crime a second time a child
is preyed on and their life is forever changed. The risk is too great for me to feel comfortable near a registered offender when my grandkids are around.

[npwalters]

BTW, I do think there needs to be a distinction made in determining who must register - forever - as a sex offender. Say a 18 YO boy that had consensual sex with a 14 yo girl should be treated differently than a male adult that preyed on a 8 YO girl.


Before you get your panties in a wad......not saying either is right; just that one is significantly more heinous. My opinion for what it's worth.

[graciegirl]

Keep up the post count ??? ;) :D

I have just finished a book by the famous mystery writer Jonathan Kellerman who is also a child psychologist who practiced for many years at the best known hospital in LA...I can't think of it...Cedars Sinai? This book is not fiction but he is writing on whether there really are kids who cannot change from their path to harm others. This is a sort of textbook, and it was written more than ten years ago, but it does discuss I think the first school shooting. He seems to think that some people cannot be changed, or rehabilitated and that there is only one path for the innocent people and it is to keep these kids locked up. He of course being a very fair and intelligent person does not make "blanket" statements like I just did, and he discusses many forms of mental illness and of course many mentally ill people CAN and are helped with therapy and medication, but some cannot be helped he thinks. I have been thinking so too. As a college student back in the 60's we were schooled in "behavioral modification" and "redirection" and "positive self image". Now I think that most of us are stuck with the personality we are born with and really can't be altered too much in any direction.

Just thinking and Musing. Here is the book;

I am no Adler or Freud. Just an old lady musing.

[Chatbrat]

One good thing about Florida gun owners don't have to be registered--this isn't, NY, NJ, Mass. , ct and Ca.-- second amendment rights are protected here

[Chi-Town]

At 67 years old, I'm probably safer living next to a pedophile than a non-pedophile. (Not trying to make a joke although it is a good basis for one). But pedophilia is a sickness and, if given the choice, I prefer having healthy neighbors over sickos.From what I gather pedophilia is a sickness without a cure. Sad for all.

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[NotGolfer]

Not from 1st hand knowlege BUT from what I've read...most sex offenders are good friends of a family or a family member. Having someone as a neighbor---might not be as offensive. Perhaps the incident(s) occurred in the distant past---ie. the 19 yr old with a 17 yr old or a falsely accused. I think this is a complicated matter that needs to be addressed as a case by case thing. There are worse things I'm going to be concerned of, rather than the "what if's" of who moves in the neighborhood.

[Bucco]

One good thing about Florida gun owners don't have to be registered--this isn't, NY, NJ, Mass. , ct and Ca.-- second amendment rights are protected here

I never realized that those diagnosed as a pedophile were gun toting people.

Have to read up on that. That makes this quite complex.

So don't take your grand kids to GUN WORLD ?

[Bucco]

The purpose of this thread is to focus on the reality that both good and bad people live here. Young people can be good or bad. Old people can be good or bad and middle aged people can be good or bad. This is an age restricted community but some bad people live here. But mostly good people live here. I was making the point that we need to realize that this place cannot keep bad or good people out.

"I was making the point that we need to realize that this place cannot keep bad or good people out."

To this point you made as the general idea of your thread, I can think of very few places, including seminaries where this can be done. Even prisons have innocent people contained, so best just not to judge.

I moved here many years ago......much smaller population....fewer of everything....guess what......we had bad people then drinking and driving, etc. I always thought that good people far outweigh the bad people....bad people are louder maybe :)

[BobnBev]

The other site reports them when they move in and shows their picture. There are probably other people who are previously convicted of bad stuff who live here too.

There is nothing we can do to keep them out or make them leave. Their rights are protected. Only kids under nineteen can be excluded. They can only visit here a total of 30 days in a year.

I really believe that we have an awful lot of good people who have never been in trouble with the law, and have always paid their bills and taken care of their responsibilities who live here. But I was born optimistic and went to a retreat once where they said it was best to try to find good in situations and people. Every once in awhile I remember to do that. Most of the time I jump to conclusions.

Jumping to conclusions is an Olympic sport in TV.:1rotfl::1rotfl:

[Kenswing]

Jumping to conclusions is an Olympic sport in TV.:1rotfl::1rotfl:

At least everyone is getting their exercise.. lol

[PennBF]

It is an acceptable conclusion within the Psychological Field that there is no cure for a Pedophile or a Psychopath or Sociopath. (The difference in the last 2 is one is more genetic and the other more envioremental.) Thus you have life time registrations for Pedophile's. Take some time to think as to where is a good place for Pedophile's to hide. In a high percentage of cases the child impacted by a Pedophile attack will be harmed for life. It is a terrible attack on a child and maybe the Pedophile should be removed from society. :ohdear:

[lorilorilori]

From what I gather pedophilia is a sickness without a cure. Sad for all.

"It is an acceptable conclusion within the Psychological Field that there is no cure for a Pedophile or a Psychopath or Sociopath."

Drug companies have a pill for every "cure" to make $$$ and
Psychos say "no cure" to keep the money rolling in.

[dillywho]

The law on sex offenses is much too broad and vague. Case in point:

A young man in Texas got his girlfriend pregnant. He was 18, she was 16. By law, he was an adult and she was a minor. Her mother had a fit when the girl told her she was pregnant, filed charges on the guy, and tried to rescind the charges once she calmed down. Nothing doing. Not retractable according to Texas law. Until the law is changed, nothing can be done about it. He is labeled a pedophile.

Now he is a registered sex offender. He and the girl married, had their baby, had more children, and are still married. Saddest part is that he cannot be alone with minors, including his own children.

My point is that not all pedophiles or sex offenders are created equal. As for living next door to someone with a sex offense record, it might or might not be a comfortable situation. I would definitely have no problem living next door to that Texas couple.

[graciegirl]

The law on sex offenses is much too broad and vague. Case in point:

A young man in Texas got his girlfriend pregnant. He was 18, she was 16. By law, he was an adult and she was a minor. Her mother had a fit when the girl told her she was pregnant, filed charges on the guy, and tried to rescind the charges once she calmed down. Nothing doing. Not retractable according to Texas law. Until the law is changed, nothing can be done about it. He is labeled a pedophile.

Now he is a registered sex offender. He and the girl married, had their baby, had more children, and are still married. Saddest part is that he cannot be alone with minors, including his own children.

My point is that not all pedophiles or sex offenders are created equal. As for living next door to someone with a sex offense record, it might or might not be a comfortable situation. I would definitely have no problem living next door to that Texas couple.

I always agree with you Dilly. It seems that the term "sex offense" is heard very often these days. I hope that what is normal and good doesn't get all misconstrued because of terminology. A man can ruin a woman's life because of a sex offense against her and a woman can ruin a man's life from accusing a man of a sex offense that didn't happen.

Who can we trust? I really like woman and think they should be believed. I really like men and think they should be believed. The men in my world have been kind and good and healthy fellows who are honest, ditto the women. Some are not. No. Some are not.

[njbchbum]

You sound like a very nice person.

Thanx - I am - if I do say so myself! ;)

I gave up judging people in Sept 1966 when a college roomie commented to one of my comments - "Who are you to judge?" I thank Judy P for that wake up call!

[graciegirl]

Thanx - I am - if I do say so myself! ;)

I gave up judging people in Sept 1966 when a college roomie commented to one of my comments - "Who are you to judge?" I thank Judy P for that wake up call!

Danged nice. AND FUNNY. And practical...…..and principled and responsible. And just the right age.

[njbchbum]

Danged nice. AND FUNNY. And practical...…..and principled and responsible. And just the right age.

Birds of our feather flock together, Gracie! :)

[Nucky]

There, in fact, is a permanent cure to these problems that some people have. Use your imagination. Simple and cheap too!

[BK001]

There, in fact, is a permanent cure to these problems that some people have. Use your imagination. Simple and cheap too!

Along these lines, there is a fabulous movie (Golden Globe and Emmy-winning) from 1995, called CITIZEN X with Donald Sutherland, Stephen Rea and Max von Sydow. You can watch it for free on youtube:

Citizen X (1995) HD - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1FSDYiEq70)

True story of a serial killer/necrophiliac. Interesting to see how the Russians dealt with this individual. A movie I could watch again every couple of years.

[blueash]

There have been two [or more] postings claiming that pedophilia is not treatable. That is wrong. There is a large body of literature on the treatment of pedophilia. Use Google Sch (https://scholar.google.com/scholar?start=10&q=treatment+pedophilia&hl=en&as_sdt=0,10&as_ylo=2014)olar and search for treatment of pedophilia and get updated.
This is (https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11930-018-0166-1) a good first link.

[Gpsma]

There is an individual in my Village that has been accused of being on a file sharing site where he allegedly downloaded child porn.

I guess he attempted suicide after his arrest and failed. I suppose he tried to hang himself and now wears one of those neck cages.

My guess is this guy probably never committed a crime in his life, held a good job and never molested a child.

Im sort of ambivalent about arrests for watching child pornography. I agree that it is highly inappropriate and downright sickening but what real crime is he commtting? Watching a sick video?

Its quite likely he never did and never would touch a child. He probably gets his sick jollies just watching it. If convicted, he may go away for many years. I guess I find it odd that he can be sent to a prison never having hurt anyone and just watching a video.

[theruizs]

If a pedophile moves here isn’t it a possible sign he/she is trying to keep themselves away from temptations? It would certainly concern me if I knew my neighbor was a convicted pedophile and likely affect how much contact I would have. But the same would be true if they had been convicted of murder, drug trafficking, armed robbery, other types of child abuse, etc. But I believe that people are capable of change and deserve that chance. For me, I think I would rather not know any of that about my neighbors so I can build my own experience with them based on who they are here and now. But if they find my body buried in my neighbors backyard one day, I reserve the right to change my mind!

[CFrance]

There is an individual in my Village that has been accused of being on a file sharing site where he allegedly downloaded child porn.

I guess he attempted suicide after his arrest and failed. I suppose he tried to hang himself and now wears one of those neck cages.

My guess is this guy probably never committed a crime in his life, held a good job and never molested a child.

Im sort of ambivalent about arrests for watching child pornography. I agree that it is highly inappropriate and downright sickening but what real crime is he commtting? Watching a sick video?

Its quite likely he never did and never would touch a child. He probably gets his sick jollies just watching it. If convicted, he may go away for many years. I guess I find it odd that he can be sent to a prison never having hurt anyone and just watching a video.
Somebody had to make that video, and by watching it he is contributing to the demand for such a thing. Plus I read some of that is pay-per-view. It darn well should be illegal to download.

[graciegirl]

There have been two [or more] postings claiming that pedophilia is not treatable. That is wrong. There is a large body of literature on the treatment of pedophilia. Use Google Sch (https://scholar.google.com/scholar?start=10&q=treatment+pedophilia&hl=en&as_sdt=0,10&as_ylo=2014)olar and search for treatment of pedophilia and get updated.
This is (https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11930-018-0166-1) a good first link.

Do you think it is a sexual orientation?

I think that a person's sexual orientation is innate, almost all of the time. A genetic thing. I think I remember you disagreed with that.

[lindaelane]

So...why? According to Umansky Law Firm: "While existing Florida law already restricted sexual offenders from living within 1,000 feet of parks, schools and other child-friendly places, various local ordinances set additional limitations, referred to as “no-go zones,” to further exclude this group of individuals from certain areas."

So can they even shop in places near schools and parks? I think the answer is no. Do they have a lot of trouble, vandalism, violence directed at them if there are kids in the neighborhood where they live? Its often the case. Also, they have to sell their house/move if a new school or park opens.

There is an entire town down near the Everglades where sex offenders live. There is a tacit agreement not to put schools/churches/parks etc. near this town.

For the most part, I do not sympathize with convicted sex offenders since their "suffering" is so much less than that of their victims. Admittedly, there are a few who are people who got too friendly at, for example, age 19 with a 17 year old girlfriend/boyfriend. I've seen documentaries on this. At any rate, TV is adult - not much chance of breaking the laws on proximity. I checked when I moved here and there is a sex offender on the next block. I think I know who. He keeps to himself. I think its not my business as long as he keeps to himself. However, I do think any grandparent whose grandkids will visit needs to google up the sex offender map. Otherwise I think we will be OK. We can't put them all in the Everglades.

[OhioBuckeye]

The other site reports them when they move in and shows their picture. There are probably other people who are previously convicted of bad stuff who live here too.

There is nothing we can do to keep them out or make them leave. Their rights are protected. Only kids under nineteen can be excluded. They can only visit here a total of 30 days in a year.

I really believe that we have an awful lot of good people who have never been in trouble with the law, and have always paid their bills and taken care of their responsibilities who live here. But I was born optimistic and went to a retreat once where they said it was best to try to find good in situations and people. Every once in awhile I remember to do that. Most of the time I jump to conclusions.

You're right, we do have 95.5% good people living here. But your question was the bad people live here too. Yes, you're right about that too & these people aren't going to share their prison time or the felony they committed to the sales office, then it'll be to late just to tell them to leave because you have a record. Guess we just got to hope we don't have any disasters here with these people. But you know as well as I do, even a good person could go bad!

[banjobob]

I have no problem living in neighbor hood with gay , bi or trans individuals just don't flaunt it to me I don't care or want to know what your do in you bedroom, pedophiles well thats another story surgical lifestyle change should be in order if convicted of sexual abuse.

[Villageswimmer]

Somebody had to make that video, and by watching it he is contributing to the demand for such a thing. Plus I read some of that is pay-per-view. It darn well should be illegal to download.


Absolutely! It wouldn’t exist if bad guys weren’t making $ from it and the children wouldn’t be hurt in the creating of it. How could anyone want to look at it? Despicable and depraved.

[Gpsma]

Absolutely! It wouldn’t exist if bad guys weren’t making $ from it and the children wouldn’t be hurt in the creating of it. How could anyone want to look at it? Despicable and depraved.

That was the original premise of banning child pornography. It seems that is no longer the case. Most child porn is shared, not sold, on the internet.

[blueash]

Do you think it is a sexual orientation?

I think that a person's sexual orientation is innate, almost all of the time. A genetic thing. I think I remember you disagreed with that.

You are confusing different aspects of sexuality. Orientation has to do with preferring a gender of your partner whether same and/or different than your own. It has nothing to do with age. So as a cis straight male my preferred partner is a female of legal age. When I was 22 that was certainly not a 65 year old woman although it would have been legal and consistent with my genetically influenced orientation. So age preference is mutable. As can be other physical characteristics of choice, body shape, hair color, race, tattoos etc.

I don't recall having ever suggested that orientation was not innate. There are likely genetic, epigenetic, and both intra and extra uterine environmental factors in play. (https://scholar.google.com/scholar?as_ylo=2014&q=sexual+orientation+genetic&hl=en&as_sdt=0,10)

[VillageIdiots]

We've had zealots post names of all registered gun owners. Sex offenders is also out there.



I assume your intent was NOT to draw some sort of moral (or immoral) equivalency between these 2 demographics. Though I'm sure there are some out there that would do so if there was a chance it could further an agenda. For me, being on a published list of legal gun owners wouldn't scare me anywhere near as much as being on a published list of non-owners. How are those gun-free zone signs working out so far?

[lorilorilori]

Stop and think - why is this one crime singled out ? Why isn't there a drug dealers registry ? A Felons registry? An arsonist list ? Animal abuser List ? Murderers List ?
A lot of hidden money behind the Sex Offender Registry. It has made millions for some people and some companies. Interesting fact.

[Fredman]

Just had a pedophile move into the neighborhood. Don’t know what to make of it. Fortunately there are no kids in the neighborhood. But, if he wants to buy one of my golf carts I’m cool with that.

[graciegirl]

Stop and think - why is this one crime singled out ? Why isn't there a drug dealers registry ? A Felons registry? An arsonist list ? Animal abuser List ? Murderers List ?
A lot of hidden money behind the Sex Offender Registry. It has made millions for some people and some companies. Interesting fact.

I am really confused by this statement. I can't see how it makes money. I would want to know who was drawn sexually to small children if I had small grandchildren who visited us.

[Joeg180]

I am really confused by this statement. I can't see how it makes money. I would want to know who was drawn sexually to small children if I had small grandchildren who visited us.

There are companies that manage and deliver data for law enforcement agencies. The information should be public domain, but the management of that information is disjointed.
Companies put it in a format that any agency can quickly access. This is where the $$ is made by selling this service to agencies and communities.

I could be wrong, but i have stayed at a Holiday Inn Express in the past.

[l2ridehd]

No matter where we have lived in the past, you have had these folks and other terrible people living next door to you. The difference is that now you know about it.

When I was growing up we would never know that a hurricane hit Puerto Rico until we read about it in the newspaper a week or more after it was over. Now we watch it in real time.

We never knew about anything until after the fact. And most times if it didn't happen within your town or state, you never even read about it.

Sexual abuse has always been there. From the times of ancient Egypt to today it has been part of our lives. Today we just know about it.

If you think back to your days of growing up, many of us were sexually abused by today's definition and standards. I remember those two older girl twins that used to walk me home from school. They taught me all kinds of things. But even now as I look back on it, it din't create any issues.

Today everybody thinks someone is bad. Pedophiles are probably the worst, but they have always been there, lived near you, but in the past you never knew. Today we are better informed.

[Madelaine Amee]

No matter where we have lived in the past, you have had these folks and other terrible people living next door to you. The difference is that now you know about it.

When I was growing up we would never know that a hurricane hit Puerto Rico until we read about it in the newspaper a week or more after it was over. Now we watch it in real time.

We never knew about anything until after the fact. And most times if it didn't happen within your town or state, you never even read about it.

Sexual abuse has always been there. From the times of ancient Egypt to today it has been part of our lives. Today we just know about it.

If you think back to your days of growing up, many of us were sexually abused by today's definition and standards. I remember those two older girl twins that used to walk me home from school. They taught me all kinds of things. But even now as I look back on it, it din't create any issues.

Today everybody thinks someone is bad. Pedophiles are probably the worst, but they have always been there, lived near you, but in the past you never knew. Today we are better informed.

Well put .............. I have been reading through this post as it evolved and I have the same conclusion as you. They have ALWAYS lived among us, but we were not necessarily aware of what they were doing due to the lack of information, now everything is out in the open for all to read.

If you want proof of Pedophilia being around forever, check out the old masters paintings in the various famous world art galleries and see what the old men in the paintings are doing to young girls .............

[goldseekur]

I would have no problem cause the truth behind all this media hype against sex crimes
is to overshadow the drug problem. Murderers, rapist, embezzlers, bank robbers and
DRUG DEALERS are not on the "LIST." The public is being DUPED into thinking the "LIST"
is important for public safety over a DRUG DEALERS LIST (which doesn't exist).

Thanks to the likes of John Walsh, Chris Hansen and Lauren and Ron Book - they have
made millions off the registry - while Drug Dealers are free to roam the schools and
neighborhoods killing people, turning girls into the street trade of prostitution etc.

Sex offenders have the lowest rate of recividism. Drug dealers the highest.
A murderer or animal abuser can live next to you - and you would not know it.
Cause the "List" is a smoke screen cause the govt isn't willing to take on the
drug trade openly and in the same manner as the "list."

Very insightful! I guess I never really thought about it but you are so right.

[lorilorilori]

How it makes $$$$ you ask. The RSO is ordered to go to class - makes alot of $$$$ for ITM group.
Senator Lauren Book and her da da gets 3 miliion in tax dollars cause her nanny touched her.
John Walsh has made millions on the death of his son but record has it he had a 17 YO girlfriend.
Chris Hansen has made $$$ off his tv program.
Then there are numerous "non profit" agencies making $$$$ off the registry, selling products etc.
Then there are a boat load of probation officers, doc workers, sheriff, police, law enforcement assigned
to this one crime using up your tax $$$$$$$ when they could and should be going after worst criminals.
Now there are bands of homeless men that can not be tracked cause no place to live which costs more
tax $$$$ finding them.
This goes on and on. Ignorance is bliss and the public has been blissfully ignorant.

[Laurabner]

You are only speaking of the ones that have been caught. I’m sure there are lot more.

[Topspinmo]

There are companies that manage and deliver data for law enforcement agencies. The information should be public domain, but the management of that information is disjointed.
Companies put it in a format that any agency can quickly access. This is where the $$ is made by selling this service to agencies and communities.

I could be wrong, but i have stayed at a Holiday Inn Express in the past.

Any site you visit online or take telemarketing call selling personnel information. How do you think FB guru, free credit report, and other became billionaire's. Matter fact IMO free site on web collecting information which includes free email services.