new bridges, 2 over sr 44, 2 over tpke.,

[debbydebby]

seen it growth of the villages web site, yet one person not even talking about it. is it a done deal, over st44 and over fla. tpke. , twice ??????…. seems like villages hype and not true..... anybody out there know better ? thanks

[kcrazorbackfan]

So, what is there to talk about? It is a done deal.

Another bridge (the newly announced one will handle both vehicles and carts; the first one, carts only) gives people that travel in their carts another option to cross the turnpike.

I don't care if we double in size as long as the amenities keeps pace and the infrastructure is kept up.

[Goldwingnut]

They're overhauling the old Baily Rd bridge just south of the service plaza, not a big deal because of the existence of that bridge. It will be quite the sight when both bridges are done.

As far as amenities go from what I've seen in the plans that have been made available and what I'm seeing when flying over the construction areas, there are a lot going in. Rec Center locations are hard to pick out from the air but, I'm pretty sure that I've seen the makings for 4 or 5 more executive courses north of 468 plus the one the pitch-and-put and executive course next to it that have already been announced.

As fast as things are moving in CDD12 & 13 more information should be surfacing soon to get the necessary permitting in order.

[debbydebby]

sorry guys i'm from new York.... and as I see it, its all hear say, no facts to say sumpter co. and florida allowed bridges over sr 44 and tpke. sorry just use to the b/s from new York, just cant believe news out from villages and not one word from anybody else.... really!!!!

[CWGUY]

seen it growth of the villages web site, yet one person not even talking about it. is it a done deal, over st44 and over fla. tpke. , twice ??????…. seems like villages hype and not true..... anybody out there know better ? thanks

:confused: You'll believe it if you read it here online but not in a newspaper. :ohdear:

[debbydebby]

I really need proof, I can't see any government office signing off on a golf cart bridge , yet 2, over sr44 and fla. tpke…… sorry all villages hype... no done deal.. goodnite all

[I Tango]

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[NotGolfer]

So, what is there to talk about? It is a done deal.

Another bridge (the newly announced one will handle both vehicles and carts; the first one, carts only) gives people that travel in their carts another option to cross the turnpike.

I don't care if we double in size as long as the amenities keeps pace and the infrastructure is kept up.

I agree with you Kcrazorbackfan!! The developer always has a "big picture business plan" in place and it's well done when it's implemented. People tend to be impatient and want everything done "now" or sooner. When they're not in the know---they think someone is out to get them. I'm totally satisfied with how everything is kept up here! Most other retirement communities don't even compare!:)

[billethkid]

going on 15 years we have lived TV lifestyle while it tripled in size. The developer has been very consistent in what is provided for residents.

It is safe to say the increased size of TV has only brought more of what we residents would like to have in amenities, shopping, restaurants, TV life style, etc.

[champion6]

seen it growth of the villages web site, yet one person not even talking about it. is it a done deal, over st44 and over fla. tpke. , twice ??????…. seems like villages hype and not true..... anybody out there know better ? thanksWe're not talking about it NOW because we have been following the various announcements that have been publicized for over a year. If you search TOTV, you will find many threads about specific announcements.

You just discovered the "big picture" and can't believe it. It IS a "done deal."

"Villages hype"? No, not hype. I think it's an informative communications plan which reduces the rumors that seem to be never-ending.

For example, attached is a map which was published in March 2018. It shows 2 golf cart bridges over Rt. 44 and 1 over the turnpike. Just recently, another bridge over the turnpike was announced which will be located below the spot on this map identified as "Future Village of Bradford."

Some of us on TOTV monitor the agendas and minutes of meetings held by Sumter County and City of Wildwood. These plans - and may more - have all been through a formal approval process.

So, sit back, stay informed, and enjoy the ride. I think the benefits of these plans will be amazing!

[charmed59]

Headed down the Turnpike last week and we could see the land moving and trucks for what we think is construction of the cart only bridge north of Fenney. We were surprised to see one of the Villages stagecoaches parked on the cattle bridge just south of the rest area. So yep, two turnpike crossings. Saw evidence with my own eyes.

[debbydebby]

well still see no hard facts about bridges, but maybe just a new Yorker, like me who is use too b/s everyday for 60 yrs. hope you guys are right about trusting the builder. soon to be a villager south of 44, and really praying, for a few bridges north. been here 7 times, northerners are nice people, hope to have fun again, via golf cart DESOTO.... here we come


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[VillageIdiots]

I really need proof, I can't see any government office signing off on a golf cart bridge , yet 2, over sr44 and fla. tpke…… sorry all villages hype... no done deal.. goodnite all

Seriously? I assume man never really walked on the moon either right?

Nobody is talking about it because it's old news. The only new news is the 2nd bridge over the turnpike which actually already exists. It was previously a cattle crossing bridge but now the developer owns the land on both sides of it. I first saw that on Goldwingnut's videos, but I assume that's not hard evidence in your mind either?

The entire thing is already planned out and is even shown on published maps showing the planned route with tunnels and bridges. And they are already working on it from both ends. Down here in the Fenney area the tunnel under 468 is well under way and the bridge over the pond that will lead into Brownwood is in place.

[debbydebby]

I hear ya.. and seen Brownwood bridge over pond at start.... NEW YORKER HERE... in new York you trust nobody.. and guess it continues.... sorry, born that way....

[Bogie Shooter]

Stop talking and start listening.........

[graciegirl]

I really need proof, I can't see any government office signing off on a golf cart bridge , yet 2, over sr44 and fla. tpke…… sorry all villages hype... no done deal.. goodnite all

In previous posts you say you are building in the new area. Is that true?

[billethkid]

I hear ya.. and seen Brownwood bridge over pond at start.... NEW YORKER HERE... in new York you trust nobody.. and guess it continues.... sorry, born that way....

The so called "NY" what ever burden being born is by choice.....to have NO FAITH must be terrible!!

[VillageIdiots]

I hear ya.. and seen Brownwood bridge over pond at start.... NEW YORKER HERE... in new York you trust nobody.. and guess it continues.... sorry, born that way....

Can you imagine the class action lawsuit with all of the buyers that purchased property under the promise of all of these bridges and tunnels to connect it all together and then it never happens? I can assure you the developer has imagined it and will make darn sure they do what is promised. They aren't going to the moon here - there are plenty of other bridges and tunnels that gov'ts had to sign off on before around here. It's a stretch to think they would promise and plan a bridge over the turnpike that they never had any intention of building and then just double down and promise a second one for the hell of it.

[debbydebby]

never thought about class action lawsuit, wow, YOU'RE RIGHT. cool, if bridges do not get built, CAN YOU BE MY LAWER, LOL...… that idea never entered my mind... feeling better now, who's the IDIOT now... tks



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[debbydebby]

hi jess here, we close on 11/.19/18 in desoto… wife name is debby, hi grace

[Marathon Man]

I am completely scratching my head over this.

[VillageIdiots]

who's the IDIOT now

Your words, not mine. I would answer the question but it's against TOTV policy.

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[skip0358]

Well I’m from New York to been here since 09 and I’ll say this anything that’s been said has happened so I’m glad I left NY and actually see things happen.

[72lions]

Where the hell do you think the cart path is going after it leaves the pond bridge in Brownwood?

[debbydebby]

after Brownwood bridge its straight too state road 44 traveling at 55 m.p.h..... lol

[tophcfa]

They're overhauling the old Baily Rd bridge just south of the service plaza, not a big deal because of the existence of that bridge. It will be quite the sight when both bridges are done.

As far as amenities go from what I've seen in the plans that have been made available and what I'm seeing when flying over the construction areas, there are a lot going in. Rec Center locations are hard to pick out from the air but, I'm pretty sure that I've seen the makings for 4 or 5 more executive courses north of 468 plus the one the pitch-and-put and executive course next to it that have already been announced.

As fast as things are moving in CDD12 & 13 more information should be surfacing soon to get the necessary permitting in order.

Thanks for the excellent update, but where are the Championship courses. Seems to be a major omission in the planning of the growth?

[Goldwingnut]

Thanks for the excellent update, but where are the Championship courses. Seems to be a major omission in the planning of the growth?

At this stage of their construction it’s impossible to tell them apart, there is plenty of space for either or both north of 468 on both sides of the turnpike. From what I saw today north of deluna it looks like at least 18 holes. Of course we know nothing for sure until the developer announcements happen and they only release what is needed to keep things going.

It would be crazy to think that one of the most successful developers in the country would change the formula that has worked so well so long. These guys don’t miss a thing, there’ll be more.

[debbydebby]

hoping goldwingnut knows his stuff, cause nobody still hasn't shown one fact that the city of wildwood, sumpter county, or state of florida has ok'ed ONE bridge. sorry, seeing is beliving, good nite all.. bye the way, thanks goldwingnut for the best video's, wife and I love them, thanks again

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[kcrazorbackfan]

I am completely scratching my head over this.

Same here; have no idea where the op is going with this or wanting to hear.

[kcrazorbackfan]

Thanks for the excellent update, but where are the Championship courses. Seems to be a major omission in the planning of the growth?

One 18 hole championship course close to the proximity of the turnpike service plaza from what I've heard.

[champion6]

Thanks for the excellent update, but where are the Championship courses. Seems to be a major omission in the planning of the growth?
One 18 hole championship course close to the proximity of the turnpike service plaza from what I've heard.A championship course is planned for the area east of the turnpike, in the future Village of Bradford. As stated, this is east of the Okahumpka Service Plaza. See attachment.

[VillageIdiots]

There's obviously no satisfying the OP on this topic. Yet I don't see a single reply agreeing with it. Apparently The Villages is all of a sudden okay with building infrastructure that will, ultimately, lead to nowhere because the city, county, or state is going to nix any plans to finish it. As with most anything in life - follow the money! Or, in this case, follow the potential tax revenue.

[ditka41]

Please relax and enjoy the ride, "New Yorker". People here have overcome larger obstacles than where they are from. The Villages is for real and one thing they do, and will continue to do, is "under-promise, and over-deliver". I hope you will enjoy the adventure as much as most of the rest of us do. There is no overwhelming interest here in what you did in your prior life or where you are from. Think of The Villages as a "do-over" where you can start fresh and will be happy.

[yabbadu]

seen it growth of the villages web site, yet one person not even talking about it. is it a done deal, over st44 and over fla. tpke. , twice ??????…. seems like villages hype and not true..... anybody out there know better ? thanks

Last week The Village sun published pictures and facts about bridges. no here-say in that

[VApeople]

Please relax and enjoy the ride, "New Yorker". People here have overcome larger obstacles than where they are from. The Villages is for real and one thing they do, and will continue to do, is "under-promise, and over-deliver". I hope you will enjoy the adventure as much as most of the rest of us do. There is no overwhelming interest here in what you did in your prior life or where you are from. Think of The Villages as a "do-over" where you can start fresh and will be happy.

That is a wonderful post and I believe the vast majority of us totally agree with you. We used to be responsible adults with many competing priorities in our lives and now we feel like young teen-agers just trying to enjoy every day. A "do-over" is a great description.

[WhoDat]

I haven't seen any evidence of recreation "centers" being built in the new areas south of SR 44, only recreation "areas" most of which don't include meeting rooms, card rooms, kitchens, and billiard rooms. It worries me because residents in these areas will want to form neighborhood groups and will not have any place to meet. I hope I'm wrong and the developer has plans for recreation centers like we have north of 44.

[VillageIdiots]

I haven't seen any evidence of recreation "centers" being built in the new areas south of SR 44, only recreation "areas" most of which don't include meeting rooms, card rooms, kitchens, and billiard rooms. It worries me because residents in these areas will want to form neighborhood groups and will not have any place to meet. I hope I'm wrong and the developer has plans for recreation centers like we have north of 44.

Right now, all we have is the Fenney rec center. That concerns me a bit as the other villages in the Fenney side of 468 get built out and any snowbirds start flocking in. There is a regional rec center coming just across 468 and I believe another rec center over that way somewhere as well. It does seem like we'll be at least 1 shy of what is minimally reasonable once this are gets built out as planned.

[I Tango]

Right now, all we have is the Fenney rec center. That concerns me a bit as the other villages in the Fenney side of 468 get built out and any snowbirds start flocking in. There is a regional rec center coming just across 468 and I believe another rec center over that way somewhere as well. It does seem like we'll be at least 1 shy of what is minimally reasonable once this are gets built out as planned.

Agree. We love living in Fenney but we're also concerned about what the situation will be with rec centers. Some of the classes at Fenney Rec are near capacity and some have had people turned away, and we're not even in the winter season. Even now we have to go early to get a spot in some classes, so what's going to happen once all these homes they're building down here get sold? I'm sure many will say we're worrying about nothing and I hope so, but it's not fun having to go early and then stand around hoping you get a spot in the classes.

[thelegges]

Are there any plans for a regional center near Fenney. I have admit I have been turned away from classes at colony

[debbydebby]

just asked if anybody seen hard facts, these bridges have been approved by local, county or state goverments. so after 2000 views and 38 replys and nobody saying anything, answer NO thank you all builder hype, nothing set in stone.
and lets, make it clear, ii'm closing in desoto in mid November, so yes it does affect us... and with that I will not bother you guys anymore, because you know just as much as I do...… NOTHING

[biker1]

I am not sure I see your point. As indicated in post #34, the plans for the bridges over the Florida Turnpike and 44 were published in the Sun (The Villages daily newspaper) and I believe the timeframe for golf cart access to the new areas is still in 2020. While I haven't been here as long as many others, I am pretty sure they only publish things that are actually going to happen. If none of this floats your boat then you will have to start making some phone calls to satisfy your curiosity.

just asked if anybody seen hard facts, these bridges have been approved by local, county or state goverments. so after 2000 views and 38 replys and nobody saying anything, answer NO thank you all builder hype, nothing set in stone.
and lets, make it clear, ii'm closing in desoto in mid November, so yes it does affect us... and with that I will not bother you guys anymore, because you know just as much as I do...… NOTHING

[VillageIdiots]

I say it's probably time to stop indulging this troll. It doesn't matter what you say, they will come back with something else to further stir the pot. Fact based media reporting doesn't satisfy the question. They could probably be out there working on the turnpike bridge right now and the OP would still be here arguing that there is no proof that they will actually finish it. And what does it say about the OP, if this is such a concern with so much doubt, yet they purchased property anyway all the while complaining as if this is a deal breaker?

[debbydebby]

maybe its me, AND it always is, ok here we go,


I ASKED ONE QUESTION, AND ONLY ONE, DID ANYBODY, SEE A FACT ,STATING THAT THE CITY, THE COUNTY, OR THE STATE OF FLORIDA AS SIGNED OFF ON THESE BRIDGES, SORRY YOU PEOPLE DON'T YET IT

ALL I ASK...…. SHOW ME PROOF... ANYBODY?


TRUSH ME I CHECH IT EVERYDAY, OK WILL TRY TO STOP THIS POST BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVE NO:welcome: IDEA WHAT I'M SAYING...………. GOODNITE



PLEASE SHOW ME PAPERWORK WITH GOVERMENT, SHOWING ITS SET IN STONE

AND I'M THE BAD GUY, ASK 1 SIMPLE QUESTION, GEEEEEEESSSSS

[debbydebby]

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[John_W]

You should really be reading TV newspaper, the Daily Sun, they have articles about plans and progress weekly if not daily. Here's a rendering of the northern most Turnpike Bridge.

When we had our LSV in spring 2011 we found the Daily Sun was in our driveway everyday courtesy of TV. After moving here June 2011 we got our subscription and I always start my day off with reading the paper. When we moved here in 2011 there no homes south of 466A. In just 7 years everything south of Colony Plaza and Pinellas Plaza has been built. In fact Buena Vista didn't even connect to 466A, it was a dead end at Turtle Mound Executive.

If a subscription is not practical to you, they have a website, here's a link.

The Villages Daily Sun | Trusted Villages news, weather, events, and more. (https://www.thevillagesdailysun.com/)

https://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/thevillagesdailysun.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/d/00/d003735e-bbb4-11e8-8705-9bc1ee79c0c3/5ba1b7208a82a.image.jpg?resize=750%2C567

Two bridges are being developed to traverse the Florida Turnpike. The northern bridge, shown in this rendering, will cross near the Village of De Luna, an area between Brownwood Paddock Square and the Village of Fenney, providing golf cart access to villages in the southern region.

July 23, 2018 The Daily Sun

The Developer’s promise of expanded golf cart connectivity became visible over the past week with a mobile construction crane signaling a new phase of work on the first multimodal link to the Village of Southern Oaks.

It was mid-March when The Villages development team unveiled a first look at the extensive roadway and multimodal network that will connect the community’s recreational amenities and the Developer’s commercial assets north of State Road 44 with the fast-growing neighborhoods south of the state highway.

Over the coming year, the Developer anticipates completing a multimodal path extension, reminiscent of the old steel trestle bridges, east of the Barnstorm Theater and across a Florida Department of Transportation retention pond.

It will then connect with a multimodal bridge across SR 44 and then into Southern Oaks, replete with the weathered-look of corten steel, curved trusses and large pillars, where it then will connect with a series of multimodal trails and tunnels into new neighborhoods under development.

While creating fun routes for golf cart drivers, this interconnected transportation system also plays a big role in reducing the traffic impact throughout Southern Oaks, The Villages land planner Mike Pape said.

“These structures will not only add to the ease of movement throughout The Villages community, but they will continue to be a fun, celebratory sense of arrival and departure for years to come,” he said.

Also: Southern Oaks development remains on a fast track, with the Wildwood City Commission expected to approve three final plats in the Village of DeSoto at tonight’s regularly scheduled meeting. Once approved, the development then may pull permits and begin home building within those neighborhoods. The plat applications include Unit 18, which contains 79 single-family detached lots on 49.64 acres at County Road 501 and at the southeast corner of the intersection of Fenney Way and Warm Springs Avenue (formerly County Road 468); Unit 19, which contains 81 single-family detached lots on 20.84 acres at the southwest corner of Fenney Way and Warm Springs Avenue; and Haven Villages, which contains 60 single-family detached lots on 7.24 acres to the south of Unit 19.

Also: Development work in the Village of McClure, south of DeSoto, also continues at a fast pace. The north and east entry gates are now under construction. Work has been completed at the Willow Tree Recreation Area and postal center; and the Tall Pines executive golf course starter shack, restrooms and irrigation pump station.

Also: Activity stepped up of late on the north side of Warm Springs Avenue in the Village of Marsh Bend. Construction has started on the Marsh Bend guardhouse and entry feature and the Everglades postal center.

Also: Site work started and construction drawings are being reviewed for two fast-developing projects in Southern Oaks — The Villages Grown controlled organic farming operation and District Public Safety Station 47. The Developer plans to build controlled greenhouse operations, capable of producing the highest quality organic produce with high nutrient levels for wholesale and eventual retail sales, on 86 acres at the southwest corner of State Road 44 and Morse Boulevard. And the Developer plans to build a 10,282-square-foot public safety building on a 3.5-acre site on the east side of the Morse Boulevard expansion (formerly CR 468) and about three-quarters of a mile south of SR 44.

Also: Reader interest continues to flow in at steady pace now that the Developer has started site work at the Lofts at Brownwood. Many of the callers indicated they submitted requests through the Developer’s website, thevillages.com/thelofts, for more information about the 265 age-restricted, apartment-style living units at the southeast corner of Powell Road and County Road 44A at Brownwood. It will include covered parking, a pool with pavilion, a clubhouse, a dog park and a mail center. And residents will have full access to The Villages’ amenities through a monthly amenity fee, plus golf cart access to all recreational and commercial services in the community. Because of the scope of the project, the Developer recently secured development approval from the Wildwood commission to permanently close Brownwood Boulevard from Shady Nook Run to County Road 44A. As construction progresses, the Developer also anticipates closing Shady Nook Run east of Brownwood Boulevard.

Also: New home construction will begin soon at the nearby Atwood Bungalows at Brownwood in the Village of Collier, since the Wildwood commission approved the final plat at a recent meeting.

[VillageIdiots]

John W, wasting your time and breath. The OP seems to think what has been in the newspaper is merely a suggestion of what the developer would like to do, but is convinced that the city, county, or state would never approve such things so they are merely pipe dreams and empty promises. The expectation seems to have been that someone here on TOTV would be privy to, and in position of, legal documents showing proof of approval for these plans. Or, just a TROLL with nothing better to do than stir the pot here.

[John_W]

John W, wasting your time and breath. The OP seems to think what has been in the newspaper is merely a suggestion of what the developer would like to do, but is convinced that the city, county, or state would never approve such things so they are merely pipe dreams and empty promises...

Pipe dreams, at the end of the above newspaper article I posted, there is a small reference to Atwood Bungalows construction.

"Also: New home construction will begin soon at the nearby Atwood Bungalows at Brownwood in the Village of Collier, since the Wildwood commission approved the final plat at a recent meeting."

To show how fast things progress, a trip down to Atwood Bungalows would surprise those who haven't been there in a while. The villa wall around the community is up and you can see the roof top of dozens of CYV's already dried in, the place will be probably be done by the end of the year.

[debbydebby]

That the bridges statement was isseued by the villages,,,,,,, and not issues by the goverment, wilwwood, sumpter or the state of florida, ''


so i guess the replys stoip now, just here me,


shut up......

[John_W]

That the bridges statement was isseued by the villages,,,,,,, and not issues by the goverment, wilwwood, sumpter or the state of florida, ''


so i guess the replys stoip now, just here me,


shut up......

So you don't get more confused, Ft. Sumpter is in South Carolina, in Florida it's Sumter County we live in. My suggestion is to ask for your deposit back and go buy your home somewhere else or wait until 2020 when these improvements will be finished.

[debbydebby]

Ill ask again, for the fiftheen time, all i ask is, to show me proof that the villages has been approved by built /bridges over everthing, ….geeeezee just getting tired
any info /


just a waste of time


once again .

[biker1]

As I already suggested, call the county or state yourself.

Ill ask again, for the fiftheen time, all i ask is, to show me proof that the villages has been approved by built /bridges over everthing, ….geeeezee just getting tired
any info /


just a waste of time


once again .

[photo1902]

As I already suggested, call the county or state yourself.

Ditto. This is absolutely absurd, which I suspect is what the OP had in mind all along. I've never understood people always needing to be hand-fed information.

[skip0358]

The state or county would not have given them permission to construct the Golf Cart Bridge in Brownwood which is the access to the 1st Bridge that will cross Rt.44. As I said earlier I am also a New York retiree and haven't seen the Builder start anything that doesn't or isn't approved period. Their not dumb people that just want to throw money away.

[I Tango]

:22yikes: Geez, this might be the most ridiculous thread I've read yet on TOTV.

[Jaybird1958]

City of Wildwood official site shows bridge over turnpike as part of Phase III Master Plan around page 20.

https://www.wildwood-fl.gov/vertical/sites/%7B2B1FDA13-2F94-4097-8D07-352D07554D9B%7D/uploads/2017_11_21_PRC_Agenda_Package.pdf

[Marathon Man]

I am just not getting this at all. Thank goodness for the ignore list

[CWGUY]

I think GG hit the nail on the head, this poster is probably on their third glass of wine.

:icon_wink: Glass????