Democrats are Socialists

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A poll of Democrats indicates that 53% of them claim to be Socialists.

This shows what is wrong with our Country Under Democrat leadership.

God hrelp us.

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Not true. As soon as I read your post I had to go check it.

The Gallup poll said that 53% of Democrats "view socialism favorably" as compared to 36% of "Americans". That is FAR from claiming to BE socialist. As far as I know, only Bernie Sanders of Vermont claimed to be a Socialist (as far as members of Congress are concerned)

Self-described "liberals" bump that number up a little - 61% of them "view socialism favorably".

Then again, define "socialist". Are we talking USSR-style totalitarian socialist? Or are we talking UK-style socialism that somehow still managed to have London supplant New York as the financial capital of the world.

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The Gallup poll said that 53% of Democrats "view socialism favorably" as compared to 36% of "Americans". That is FAR from claiming to BE socialist.

Close enough for me.

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Close enough for me.

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That's like saying "if you think it's ok for the government to have warrantless wiretaps, then you must be in favor of a totalitarian police state".

Or, to put in in perhaps less inflammatory terms, "if you are favorable towards being 'tough on crime' you must think police states are ok".

There's a HUGE difference.

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That's like saying "if you think it's ok for the government to have warrantless wiretaps, then you must be in favor of a totalitarian police state".

Or, to put in in perhaps less inflammatory terms, "if you are favorable towards being 'tough on crime' you must think police states are ok".

There's a HUGE difference.


I do not think that Democrats are socialists.....much to much of a generalization......

Sort of like when the Speaker of the House said...that it was a totalitarian police state to wiretap without a warrant during the last administration......OH....just read that somewhere !

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...and it's not like the GOP has a monopoly on this now..

I'm just reading that the Justice Department wants to be able to track cell-phone locations without a warrant.

WHAT IS THIS OBSESSION WITH SPYING ON OUR OWN PEOPLE WITHOUT A WARRANT???

What is so difficult about calling a judge to get a warrant?

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A poll of Democrats indicates that 53% of them claim to be Socialists.

This shows what is wrong with our Country Under Democrat leadership.

God hrelp us.

I wonder what your life experience has been to make you so hateful and fearful of Democrats and Socialists. By the "God hrelp us" ending you make it clear you believe either label is a synonym for evil. Many studies have shown that the overwhelming influence on people's political preferences is the position taken by their parents. I would sincerely like to tell the important parts of your history which led you to such strong beliefs.

And to show you I'm sincere, I'll readily admit I am one of the majority influenced by parents. My father worked tirelessly as a union tradesman, then a small businessman to make a life for our family of nine. He suffered several major financial setbacks at the hands of the uncaring 'bigger' businesses which realized but would not share huge profits from his work and ideas. He convinced me Roosevelt's depression policies, including Social Security were enormously important in building a middle class and preventing a fabulously wealthy elite from controlling everything. He explained in detail how the 'socialist' label on Roosevelt was meaningless and the McCarthy hearings, attacking people he labeled, the grandstandings of a disgraceful demigod. Seems to me there was a lot of truth to that.

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Socialism has never worked. The Verona Project files pretty much exonerated McCarthy. Needless to say the media made little mention of it.

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As Michael Savage says, "Democracy is a mental disorder." As well, most Democrats admitted or not are really progressives. I have never met a Democrat that did not like having his hand in your pocket.

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Mc Carthy would have a heart attack if he could see who is in the White House.

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“The problem with socialism is that you too soon,
run out of other people’s money.” – Margaret Thatcher

Yoda

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McCarthy was a great man.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1379283/posts

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Not true. As soon as I read your post I had to go check it.

The Gallup poll said that 53% of Democrats "view socialism favorably" as compared to 36% of "Americans". That is FAR from claiming to BE socialist. As far as I know, only Bernie Sanders of Vermont claimed to be a Socialist (as far as members of Congress are concerned)

Self-described "liberals" bump that number up a little - 61% of them "view socialism favorably".

Then again, define "socialist". Are we talking USSR-style totalitarian socialist? Or are we talking UK-style socialism that somehow still managed to have London supplant New York as the financial capital of the world.

If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, etc.

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As Michael Savage says, "Democracy is a mental disorder." As well, most Democrats admitted or not are really progressives. I have never met a Democrat that did not like having his hand in your pocket.

Larry Craig liked having his hand in your pocket too.

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djplong--- Nobel prize winner, Alexander Solynitzyor said, "communism is socialism done by professionals."

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As Michael Savage says, "Democracy is a mental disorder." As well, most Democrats admitted or not are really progressives. I have never met a Democrat that did not like having his hand in your pocket.

Unfortunately I don't believe it is curable.

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Unfortunately I don't believe it is curable.

I thought he said liberalism was a mental disorder.

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Donna2--- Savage did say liberism is a mental disorder. Hopefully, that's what they meant.

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Yes, sorry I misquoted. Liberalism is a mental disorder.......that is what Michael said.

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I really hate to generalize and do not believe that ALL Democrats are socialists, however the current leadership and power base of the party leans strongly in that direction.

George Will today addresses this very subject in his editorial...

"Only two things are infinite -- the expanding universe and Democrats' hostility to the District of Columbia's school choice program. Killing this small program, which currently benefits 1,300 mostly poor and minority children, is odious and indicative. It is a small piece of something large -- the Democrats' dependency agenda, which aims to multiply the ways Americans are dependent on government.

Democrats, in their canine devotion to teachers unions, oppose empowering poor children to escape dependency on even terrible government schools. Unions and their poodles say school choice siphons money from public schools. But federal money funds D.C.'s program, so killing it denies education money to D.C. while increasing the number of pupils D.C. must support.

Most Democrats favor a "public option" -- a government health insurance program. They say there is insufficient competition among the 1,300 private providers of insurance, so people should not be dependent on those insurers. But tuition vouchers redeemable at private as well as public schools is a "private option" providing minimal competition with public schools. Government, with 89 percent of the pupils, dominates education grades K through 12. So, do Democrats favor vouchers to reduce American's dependence on government education? Of course not.

For congressional Democrats, however, expanding dependency on government is an end in itself. They began the Obama administration by expanding the State Children's Health Insurance Program. It was created for children of the working poor but the expansion made millions of middle-class children eligible -- some in households earning $125,000. The aim was to swell the number of people who grow up assuming that dependency on government health care is normal."

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2010/02/14/the_growing_dependency_agenda.html

There has always been a difference between the parties in regard to the role of federal government, but the current administration and congress are taking this to a new level which is spawning so much of the distress and movements such as the Tea Bag movement.

I KNOW there are moderate democrats around who are cringing at what is happening in Washington (It is not JUST Republicans) and here is hoping we vote in reasonable folks of any party this November and maybe create some sanity. No wonder the "currents" are in such a hurry and have been to get as much "done" as possible before some sanity resumes.

And for those who will immediately get on thier party bandwagon and remind that the Republcan party also got carried away...I agree....but the degree to which these current folks are taking the extreme is scary !

PS..To further validate the point...from the LA Times...

[B]"Reporting from Washington - As President Obama's approval ratings sag and the mood of voters sours, some Democratic congressional candidates are distancing themselves from the White House, with the back-channel blessing of party officials.

The candidates are positioning themselves as independent voices no less frustrated with the Obama administration than people back home.

Rep. Dennis Cardoza, a Democrat who represents a California Central Valley district burdened by high unemployment and home foreclosures, said in an interview: "The Obama administration has failed miserably in trying to solve the problem."[/B

http://www.latimes.com/news/nation-and-world/la-na-obama-dems14-2010feb14,0,2394992.story

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With the election of Obama, I think we have witnessed what the Progressive Democrats of America thought would be a perfect storm to get many of their issues passed into law. Not all Dems are members of the Progressive Party, but most members of the Progressive Party have Democratic Party roots, IMHO. I just think what many in this country are identifying as "socialist" causes are actually Progressive causes.

The PDA's strategy:

http://pdamerica.org/about/strategy.php

The PDA's board of directors:

http://pdamerica.org/about/board.php

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With the election of Obama, I think we have witnessed what the Progressive Democrats of America thought would be a perfect storm to get many of their issues passed into law. Not all Dems are members of the Progressive Party, but most members of the Progressive Party have Democratic Party roots, IMHO. I just think what many in this country are identifying as "socialist" causes are actually Progressive causes.

The PDA's strategy:

http://pdamerica.org/about/strategy.php

The PDA's board of directors:

http://pdamerica.org/about/board.php

Thank you for those links. Very telling list, indeed.

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I wonder what your life experience has been to make you so hateful and fearful of Democrats and Socialists. By the "God hrelp us" ending you make it clear you believe either label is a synonym for evil. Many studies have shown that the overwhelming influence on people's political preferences is the position taken by their parents. I would sincerely like to tell the important parts of your history which led you to such strong beliefs.

And to show you I'm sincere, I'll readily admit I am one of the majority influenced by parents. My father worked tirelessly as a union tradesman, then a small businessman to make a life for our family of nine. He suffered several major financial setbacks at the hands of the uncaring 'bigger' businesses which realized but would not share huge profits from his work and ideas. He convinced me Roosevelt's depression policies, including Social Security were enormously important in building a middle class and preventing a fabulously wealthy elite from controlling everything. He explained in detail how the 'socialist' label on Roosevelt was meaningless and the McCarthy hearings, attacking people he labeled, the grandstandings of a disgraceful demigod. Seems to me there was a lot of truth to that.

:agree::agree::agree:


Bravo....I got the same education from my grandmother and my father. Red-baiting should be a thing of the past.

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Mc Carthy would have a heart attack if he could see who is in the White House.

And why would anyone care what a disgraced mean drunk would think? But the way did you hear about Dick Cheney yet?

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And why would anyone care what a disgraced mean drunk would think? But the way did you hear about Dick Cheney yet?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1379283/posts

History is on his side, as facts are, too.

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Mc Carthy would have a heart attack if he could see who is in the White House.

And why would anyone care what a disgraced mean drunk would think? But the way did you hear about Dick Cheney yet?

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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1379283/posts



barf History is on his side, as facts are, too.


Enough!

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This isn't baiting you cologal. It is a an honest question for discussion. Have you ever heard of Arthurdale, WVa.? Your friend, B.K.

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I don't know how a liberal can talk like that. You people talk about compassion and then call people terrible names. You forget that your "darling" of the democrat party, Ted Kennedy was the biggest alcohol abuser in congress.

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Donna2 I'll drink to that. lol

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Donna2 I'll drink to that. lol

I know Sally Jo. It is a crying shame that when these "compassionate" liberals do not have any facts on their side, they resort to ridicule. They are nothing but frauds!

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I don't know how a liberal can talk like that. You people talk about compassion and then call people terrible names. You forget that your "darling" of the democrat party, Ted Kennedy was the biggest alcohol abuser in congress.


Yes I completely understand....you get to say anything, Obama isn't a US citizen, we are all socialists...women in the military deserve what they get and I say McCarthy was a mean drunk and only I have no compassion. You people is not a very nice thing to say either....you people is a way to make me a part of the other. Different from all the real people...

Ted Kennedy was not MY darling....far to liberal for me. He did drink to much and cat around quite a bit but unlike McCarthy he cleaned up his act years ago. So the operative word would be WAS.


McCarthy had no compassion for anyone....

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I know Sally Jo. It is a crying shame that when these "compassionate" liberals do not have any facts on their side, they resort to ridicule. They are nothing but frauds!

This is just to funny.... I called McCarthy a mean drunk...which by all accounts he was. He was one of the biggest frauds of that time frame.


Is it not true that McCarthy was a drunk ....did not someone finally call him out and say "Sir have you no shame"

Get real.

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This isn't baiting you cologal. It is a an honest question for discussion. Have you ever heard of Arthurdale, WVa.? Your friend, B.K.

No I haven't heard it but I will Google it and see what come up.

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No I haven't heard it but I will Google it and see what come up.

You should also google the Venona Files. Socialist professors have been smearing McCarthy's good name to revise history. Shameful.